FASCISM British Protest 15-Minute Cities Where They Will Become Prisoners of the State

Granny Franny

Senior Member
About 25 years ago some developers came up with a similar idea - without the limits of travel. They were building communities that has all shared areas between homes, work with in a certain distance, etc. Didn't really pan out like they expected, and they found that it limited their sales quite a bit in our area.

I really wish these elites would pull their heads out of their backsides and actually think things through way better. Some goals like cleaning up the air, and helping the planet are good, but come up with a good transition plan first.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
You know, for many years I lived in my little yuppie neighborhood. I didn't drive for a lot of those years. I must have moved around at least 10 times for one reason or another. I LOVED it there. Downtown was only a mile and a half away, which was where most of the jobs and big department stores were. All my doctors, dentists, vision care, dermatologist, urologist, hospital, etc. were THERE, the grocery stores, laundromat, tons of little shops were THERE. My veterinarian was there. In other words, I had maybe a 5 or ten minute walk to just about anywhere I wanted to go. Taking a bus was a little annoying, but doable. For anything else I had a boyfriend or other friends who had cars.

Now? It's almost all gone. They did away with downtown and most of the doctors and jobs moved to the burbs. The hospital couldn't make it for whatever reason and was torn down. There is a doctor's office building and a bank there now.
BUT even though it might seem to you to not be a way you'd want to live, it suited me well for a very long time.

However, no one forced me to do this. I just loved the place. Now without a car for the moment, I suffer a little. It sucks.

:(
 

jward

passin' thru
This isn't new, posted on it last year- back when we were being informed such stories MUST have the INTL prefix :jstr:
... and for whatever unfathomable reason, they seem to be going along with it. It'll be here soon enough I am sure.

They have told us directly of their plans, and yet each time a new piece of them get enacted we wail and gnash our teeth like it's some kind of horrible, one off aberration. It's not, and we're bout outta time to deal with it imo.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
This stupidity is one of their attempted "good for thee, but not for me" fairytales. (We all should have private jets like they have! I want 4 of them, like Bill Gates has! EO. Trickle up socialism!)

As for this: not just no, but haillllllllllllllll NO!

02/08/23 • BIG TECHBIG ENERGYNEWS

The 15-Minute City: A Climate Solution? Or Just an ‘Excuse for More Control’?​

Proponents of the “15-minute city” say it will reduce emissions and improve residents’ quality of life, but critics say the concept, supported by the World Economic Forum, is discriminatory and will lead to “climate lockdowns.”

By Brenda Baletti, Ph.D.

The “15-minute city” made headlines this month, spurred by controversy over plans by the U.K.’s Oxfordshire County Council to pilot “traffic filters” to reduce car use as part of the city of Oxford’s 2040 development strategy.

Under the filter plan, Oxfordshire will be divided into six districts. Beginning in 2024, residents will be able to drive within their neighborhoods, but license plate recognition cameras will fine private cars £70 for passing a filter without a permit. Vehicles such as bikes and public transportation will be exempt.

Residents can apply for a permit to drive through the filters up to 100 days per year, and residents living outside the zones can apply for a permit for up to 25 times per year. The filters will be in effect daily from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.

The county council said the plan is not meant to coerce residents into staying in their neighborhoods, but rather to address traffic congestion by “making walking, cycling, public and shared transport the natural first choice.”

Critics of the plan garnered thousands of signatures on petitions opposing it. The plan also sparked several protests, with local workers speaking out in the press.

For concerned workers who pass through several districts daily to get to work, the council suggested they use a less central route such as the ring roads outside of the city center.

Community critics pointed out that this solution would add time and pollution, contrary to the plan’s goal to tackle climate change.

Conflict over the plan went international. Polarizing figures like bestselling author Jordan B. Peterson tweeted that the plan was the “worst imaginable perversion” of the idea that cities should be walkable, and Piers Corbyn went to an Oxford City Council meeting to protest. City council members reported being harassed.

Major media organizations, including The Guardian, Reuters, PolitiFact, USA Today, The Times and the BBC weighed in to support the local policy and discredit dissent as “conspiracy theory,” by pointing to some exaggerated online claims that people would be confined to their districts by force.

But the 15-minute city concept has sparked widespread public concern beyond Oxford, particularly among the growing number of people concerned by policy proposals promoted by the World Economic Forum (WEF) that involve widespread implementation of top-down environmental and urban policies, as seen on Twitter, in numerous articles and in videos.

WEF members discussed many such policies at the January meeting in Davos.

What is the 15-minute city?

During the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns, mainstream media, urban planners, the U.N. and developers — many with ties to the WEF — began promoting the 15-minute city — a new urbanist proposal that cities be redesigned into decentralized microcities where people could meet their needs for living, working and playing within 15 minutes of their home.

The term was coined by Sorbonne University professor Carlos Moreno, also known as a pioneer of the “smart city” — a city equipped with extensive capacity for artificial intelligence (AI) digital surveillance monitoring.

Moreno first popularized the 15-minute city idea, which is often linked to the smart city, in an October 2020 TED talk.

Fifteen-minute city advocates say the self-sufficient neighborhood concept is an old one and is how cities were imagined before cars.

That is largely the point, according to proponents of the concept who argue that reducing carbon emissions to slow climate change is at the heart of the 15-minute city concept.

Building [cities] back better?

In March 2021, The Guardian reported that lockdowns led to an unprecedented 7% decrease in carbon emissions in 2020, at least in high-income countries. The article warned that when lockdowns ended there would be a swift rebound in emissions rates.

An equivalent drop in emissions would be needed every two years to remain within safe limits of global warming, according to Corinne Le Quéré, Ph.D., author of the study cited in the article and a WEF contributor.

Dave Reay, Ph.D., chair in Carbon Management & Education, School of Geosciences, at the University of Edinburgh, told The Guardian it was incumbent upon countries to “build back better” — a WEF slogan.

Different global actors began to hold up the 15-minute city as the way to do that — “to reduce emissions and improve residents’ quality of life,” as the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) put it.

The Aspen Institute held a panel on the concept. The pandemic had created an opportunity, they argued, to redesign cities:

“Innovation is often-times born out of crisis, and the evolution of cities is no exception to that rule. Urban planners, developers, civic leaders, and entrepreneurs have an opportunity to seize on this moment of uncertainty during the COVID-19 pandemic and reimagine urban life.”

Mike Haigh, then-chief executive of the Mott McDonald consulting company and now chair of the WEF Infrastructure Industries Governors Group, spoke on a September 2021 WEF panel about the 15-minute city:

“I think that COVID has made a difference. People talk about pandemics being great accelerators of trends that were already happening. If you think of the climate emergency … these things have all accelerated in the last 18 months, so that’s good because I think there is a real driver for the 15-minute city.”

The UNFCCC proposed the concept as a powerful model for “Post-COVID living” to help reach Paris Agreement climate goals.

And in March 2022, the WEF published an article arguing the model would be critical for dealing with shocks caused by “climate change and global conflict.”

The pandemic gave the idea new relevance, WEF author Lisa Chamberlain said, referring to the lockdowns.

She cautioned that implementing the idea would require sacrifice, or “creative destruction brought on by a technical revolution,” but cities that don’t redesign themselves in this way will “struggle mightily.”

Chamberlain located the roots of 15-minute city principles in the 19th-century concept of “eutopia,” where a city is a “good place” without “money wages.”

Media outlets and university research blogs across the world have run articles on the benefits of the 15-minute city and have even addressed some potential critiques.

For example, while the “live-work-play” image of the 15-minute city might evoke ideas of the economic elite, planners like Robert Steuteville argue that in fact, low-income people benefit the most from having amenities close by.

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TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Who’s behind the push for the 15-minute city?

Most articles portray the 15-minute city as a movement, an idea of the people that emerged out of the pandemic, but their data are largely self-referential.

Chamberlain’s WEF article presented a Google search trend analysis as evidence for its claim that the idea was “more than a fad,” asserting:

“The 15-minute city went from a ‘nice-to-have’ to a rallying cry. … The pandemic created an urgency around equitable urbanism that sidelined arguments about bike lanes and other ‘amenities’ that have roiled communities for years.”

Mainstream media outlets like Forbes referred to the WEF article as proof of this new movement.

An article published last week by the World Resources Institute called it “a global movement” — citing evidence that mayors around the world are instituting plans for a 15-minute city.

The idea is heavily promoted by planning organizations like the Congress for the New Urbanism.

Efforts to pilot the 15-minute city in practice are largely driven by C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group, made up of 96 mayors of cities from around the world, funded by major corporations and philanthropic foundations and focused on urban activism for climate change.

The group was founded in 2005, by the mayor of London, and in 2006, it merged with the Clinton Climate Initiative.

C40 Cities also works closely with developer Arup Group, a WEF-affiliated organization, to create development plans to redevelop “sustainable” or “net zero” buildings to address the problem of climate change.

In July 2020, the group published a framework for cities to “build back better.” The organization promotes the 15-minute city model as a new roadmap for a post-pandemic world.

C40 Cities in September 2022 announced it is partnering with a developer, Nordic Real Estate Partners — a Danish development firm with 18 billion euros in assets — and UN-Habitat to deliver proof-of-concept for “15-minute city” policies by implementing neighborhood pilot projects in at least five cities.

Cities such as Paris, Madrid, Milan, Ottawa, Seattle, Milan and Vancouver are among those that have declared plans to transform their cities into a 15-minute city model.

Melbourne has adopted a long-term strategic plan for 20-minute neighborhoods.

Recently Cleveland, Ohio’s new mayor announced, with the support of the city development department, a bike advocacy group and real estate developers, that the city is “working toward being the first city in North America to implement a 15-minute city planning framework where people — not developers, but people — are at the center of urban revitalization.”

More city councils throughout the U.K. also announced they will investigate or implement 15-minute city plans.

A walkable city with amenities close to home, what could be the problem?

On a recent episode of “The Corbett Report,” James Corbett said:

“You have to hand it to the technocratic planners of the would-be technate. They are masters at taking ideas that, detached from all of the context that they put them in, could be a good idea.

“In fact, if I was going to create an intentional community, I would probably want to create it around the idea that everything is accessible and close and you don’t need to rely on some big infrastructure in order to get your groceries that are coming from halfway around the world.

“Yeah, having a 15-minute city, it sounds good.”

The problem, he said, is that the concept isn’t based on democratic principles of people deciding together or agreeing on an idea.

“No, we are talking about city councils starting to take control and starting to herd people into carefully controlled spaces,” Corbett said.

Some planners, even within the new urbanist school of thought, link the concept to the history of top-down urban planning approaches that exclude the marginalized.

At the CityLab 2021 conference, hosted by Bloomberg Philanthropies and the Aspen Institute, Jay Pitter, a Toronto-based urban designer, commented:

“I’m a champion of the hyper-local, as certainly we need more resilient, climate change-resistant cities. …

“However, I am averse to this concept. It doesn’t take into account the histories of urban inequity, intentionally imposed by technocratic and colonial planning approaches, such as segregated neighborhoods, deep amenity inequity and discriminatory policing of our public spaces.”

Pitter said many marginalized communities are opposed to ideas like this because they lead to further displacement.

Even Richard Florida — who coined the “creative city” planning concept that drove gentrification globally over the last decade — warned that the 15-minute city plans in major cities across the world would be more likely to exacerbate existing inequalities than resolve them.

Moreno has acknowledged that the distances most working-class people are required to travel for work pose a major challenge to the 15-minute city.

And then there are the people themselves.

Politico reported that Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo has been internationally lauded, winning prizes for her leadership in fighting climate change and landing herself on Time’s list of 100 most influential people in 2020.

But she faced backlash from Parisians who charge her with destroying the city’s heritage and disrupting their lives by supporting the 15-minute city concept.

Analysts critical of the program in Oxford raised concerns about the concept more generally. They cautioned that the inspiration for the concept in the lockdowns, which were responsible for widespread social and economic devastation and new forms of social control, ought to be concerning.

They point out that while the concept of, “climate lockdown” sounds “ridiculous,” articles in publications like the BBC’s “How ’15-minute cities’ will change the way we socialise,” celebrating life under lockdown and linking it to climate benefits, raise flags.

Others have said, “The 15-minute cities being sold look a lot like an excuse for more control.”

Corbett argued that the 15-minute city concept is part of a master plan:

“The people get herded into these 15-minute cities so that when you are allowed by the loving masters of the techne, you’ll be allowed to travel from one little 15-minute city to another, if your social credit score is high enough.

“This is not about saving the earth as I have said 8 million times … This is exactly how they create the infrastructure for the climate lockdowns of the future …

“This is about that long-term vision of the future in which we will be herded into these small cities.”

“Climate lockdown” is another term often dismissed as “conspiracy theory” in the mainstream media.

But several organizations, including the World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD), have circulated the idea that “climate lockdown” might be necessary for several years.

They promoted an article written by University College of London professor and WEF contributor Marian Mazzucato, Ph.D. suggesting that “climate lockdowns” might become necessary to address the looming “climate emergency.”

The WBCSD is a partner of and supported by the WEF-affiliated Arup Group. Arup and C40 have been partners for over a decade in their project to redesign cities. The 15-minute city is part of that project.

 

workhorse

Veteran Member
Wondering if they thought about how this is going to effect the BBC. Antiques Roadshow brings people in from all over. And the one that has antique dealers given so much money and they have to see how much they can make on it drive all over as well. Trucking companies are not allowed to drive more than 15 minutes. Stores that pickup their own produce or flowers. Heck even scrap that they want you to recycle doesn’t have a scrapyard every 15 minutes.
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
In Humanity vs. the WEF, the rubber is hitting the road. Fight back if you don't want to be a serf (but do it smartly).

#IDONOTCOMPLY

ETA: They want your guns, your babies, your stoves, your energy, your food, your thoughts, your liberty... and your lives.
And your soul. ESPECIALLY your soul.
 

desert_fox

Threadkiller
So instead of improving public transportation so that people are more willing to use it, they will force you to use it instead. There is probably no earmarked dollars for increased maintenance and services will be reduced significantly.
 

PalmettoGirl

Senior Member
I drive 30 plus minutes to a job I’ve had for almost 30 years. The hair salon I’ve gone to for 30 years is a 20 minute drive. My boyfriend lives 45 minutes away. It wouldn’t take long before I used up my 100 trips on just those three places.

What about people who need to see a specialist for healthcare?Visiting family and friends? How do businesses grow if they’re limited to just a 15 minute circumference? What about the “carbon footprint” of having to provide all these services within the 15 minute perimeters. And what if not everyone has access to a store within that 15 minute drive? If the store you are able to shop at is out of something but you think the store one town over may have it do you use one of your passes or go without? Your town has an old navy, but the town over has a mall? This is so stupid.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
"Residents are allowed to leave their 15-minute city a maximum of 100 times a year"

Thank god!
It would be worse if I was required to leave my 15 minute city more than 100 times a year.
A hundred times a year? That is 8.33 trips per month.!!!

I leave my area to go to WalMart once a month. That twelve trips.
And I probably make one other trip out of my area every month.

I wonder if I will be able to sell my extra trips.

I would vote for that just to listen to the Karens scream at the sky.
If corporations can sell carbon credits, it would seem fair a citizen could sell "trip" credits . . .

Oh wait! What was I thinking? If you're a SJW Elite, I'm sure it will be OK (assuming TPTB even track your trips) but commoners?
Possibly but but at tax of 200% on the proceeds of same.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
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I'm not quite sure where this 15 minute city is located, but it has caused quite the stir on facebook in the last 24 hours. The buildings are uglier than all get out!
 

KMR58

Veteran Member
You know, if everyone IGNORED these idiots, they will go away.

You might be inconvenienced for a while when your credit card won't be taken outside of your 15 minute circle, but smart people will see this for what it is - and trade with you anyway.

Promissory notes work. That is what credit cards REALLY are. Don't leave home without them.

Owner has an "antique book" he found up in the top of the barn. Dating from the 1870s, it styles itself as a "businessman's guide." In there (he showed me) are examples of ALL sorts of notes: bills of lading, hand-written "checks", claims, and "promise to perform." (i.e., part of contract law.) This was written in an age when everyone HAD to trust each other and relied on the law to enforce that trust.

One imagines the law will again.

It was an age when penmanship reigned. Very flowery cursive writing. Letterheads were not widely used so business "created their own" with their own practiced hand.

Dobbin
I recently found my grandparents mortgage bank book for the home I live in now. It was a tiny book with handwritten entries in PENCIL. I can't imagine doing that today. People trusted each other then way more than they do now.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
That’s because they ARE prisons. Or “hives.” Or perhaps “matrix pods.”


“You’ll own nothing and like it.”

Well it's going to be interesting the first beta 15 minute city is set to go live here, in central Iowa, by the end of 2025 maybe sooner. The best part? They built in a flood plane, that particular area was under something like 20+ feet of flood water. Yeah they built it up with millions of tons of earth, rock, etc., my money is on Mother Nature!
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I have no idea how they think their plan will work out here in rural country. It would take me longer that 15 mins to get to the nearest grocery store.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I have no idea how the think their plan will work out here in rural country. It would take me longer that 15 mins to get to the nearest grocery store.

The idiots that thought this up live in places like Manhattan, NYC, Boston, Washington DC, Seattle, etc. Everything in their life be it work, school, the gym, groceries, library, etc., is within 15 minutes of where they live and always has been.

And so they think that this will work everywhere. Their concept won't work out here in the hinterlands, the weather is brutal and everything is far away, very far away. When asked for directions, etc., it's measured in time, not miles. As in it's an hour and a half away.

They are building a 15 minute city here in town, which cracks me up, between the stadium and the coliseum, in a flood plain.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The idiots that thought this up live in places like Manhattan, NYC, Boston, Washington DC, Seattle, etc. Everything in their life be it work, school, the gym, groceries, library, etc., is within 15 minutes of where they live and always has been.

And so they think that this will work everywhere. Their concept won't work out here in the hinterlands, the weather is brutal and everything is far away, very far away. When asked for directions, etc., it's measured in time, not miles. As in it's an hour and a half away.

They are building a 15 minute city here in town, which cracks me up, between the stadium and the coliseum, in a flood plain.

You won't be living inside it will you? Gosh, I hope not!
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
The idiots that thought this up live in places like Manhattan, NYC, Boston, Washington DC, Seattle, etc. Everything in their life be it work, school, the gym, groceries, library, etc., is within 15 minutes of where they live and always has been.

And so they think that this will work everywhere. Their concept won't work out here in the hinterlands, the weather is brutal and everything is far away, very far away. When asked for directions, etc., it's measured in time, not miles. As in it's an hour and a half away.

They are building a 15 minute city here in town, which cracks me up, between the stadium and the coliseum, in a flood plain.

I'm not sure they are going to be able to complete it. If we get major flooding next spring, that'll significantly hinder their progress. Are these idiots who are building in a flood plain somehow related to the idiots who goofed on the local flyover bridge? The roads didn't meet and the whole thing had to be re-done. Mathematical error! Ha.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I'm not sure they are going to be able to complete it. If we get major flooding next spring, that'll significantly hinder their progress. Are these idiots who are building in a flood plain somehow related to the idiots who goofed on the local flyover bridge? The roads didn't meet and the whole thing had to be re-done. Mathematical error! Ha.

NOT only did it have to be redone, they had to redo it twice! ;)
 

Zaphod

Member
I love all the "Just don't do it" , "They won't make ME do it", "Not a chance I will ever" bla bla bla.
Did you comply and wear a mask that wouldn't stop a fart ?
Don't you allow a moron to run your government ?
You allow things like CNN and the View ?
What a joke !
 
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