After denying last weeks launch. This is troubling......
WAR BREAKING China Successfully Tests 2nd Orbital, Nuclear-Capable, Hypersonic Missile
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Wonder how much time the world has.............?
Latest US military hypersonic test fails
Latest US military hypersonic test fails (msn.com)
The US suffered a setback in the race with China and Russia to develop hypersonic weapons when its latest test failed, the Pentagon said in a statement Thursday.
A booster stack, which is the rocket used to accelerate the projectile to hypersonic speeds, failed and the test of the projectile, the hypersonic glide body, could not proceed, the statement said.
Because the rocket failed the Pentagon was not able to test the hypersonic glide body, which is the key component needed to develop a hypersonic weapon.
Officials have started a review of the test, which took place Thursday at the Pacific Spaceport Complex in Kodiak, Alaska, to understand the cause of the booster failure.
"Experiments and tests -- both successful and unsuccessful -- are the backbone of developing highly complex, critical technologies at tremendous speed, as the department is doing with hypersonic technologies," said Lt. Cdr. Tim Gorman, a Pentagon spokesman, in a statement.
The Pentagon has made developing hypersonic weapons one of its top priorities, particularly as China and Russia are working to develop their own versions. The failure is another blow to the US effort following a failed test in April and comes days after it was reported that China had successfully tested a hypersonic glide vehicle.
Traveling at Mach 5 or faster, hypersonic weapons are difficult to detect, posing a challenge to missile defense systems. Hypersonic missiles can travel at a far lower trajectory than high-arcing ballistic missiles, which can be easily detectable. Hypersonics can also maneuver and evade missile defense systems.
Over the weekend, the Financial Times reported that China had successfully tested a hypersonic glide vehicle capable of carrying a nuclear weapon. They reported the glide vehicle was launched from an orbital bombardment system. Though China denied the report, saying on Monday that the test was instead a "routine spacecraft experiment.
Defense officials say they are particulary concerned about China developing hypersonic capabilities because they could enable Beijing to launch an attack over the South Pole, evading US missile defenses, which are generally geared toward missiles coming over the North Pole.
Two weeks ago, Russia claimed to have successfully tested a submarine-launched hypersonic missile for the first time, dubbed the Tsirkon. Earlier this summer, Russia said it had fired the same missile from a warship.
Nevertheless, the Pentagon insists it remains on track to deliver offensive hypersonic weapons in the early 2020s, a timeline that seems more urgent with the advances in hypersonic technology shown off by the Russians and Chinese.
"This flight test is part of an ongoing series of flight tests as we continue to develop this technology," Gorman said.
The failed test of a hypersonic glide body occurred after the Navy and Army earlier this week conducted a series of successful hypersonic measurement tests highlighting the Pentagon's priority of rapidly researching and testing the weapon system. The three joint sounding tests were designed to collect data and carry out hypersonic experiments from DoD partners involved in developing the advanced weapons.
"These launches allow for frequent and regular flight testing opportunities to support rapid maturation of offensive and defensive hypersonic technologies," the Navy said in a statement about the trials.
Those tests, carried out at NASA's Wallops Flight Facility on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, provide data for the development of the services' hypersonic weapons, including the Navy's Conventional Prompt Strike and the Army's Long Range Hypersonic Weapon.
The US is focusing on conventional hypersonic weapons that are based on ships, land and air platforms.
In April, the Air Force's hypersonic missile program suffered a setback when it failed to launch from a B-52. Instead, the AGM-183A Air-launched Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) remained on the aircraft.
Latest US military hypersonic test fails (msn.com)
The US suffered a setback in the race with China and Russia to develop hypersonic weapons when its latest test failed, the Pentagon said in a statement Thursday.
A booster stack, which is the rocket used to accelerate the projectile to hypersonic speeds, failed and the test of the projectile, the hypersonic glide body, could not proceed, the statement said.
Because the rocket failed the Pentagon was not able to test the hypersonic glide body, which is the key component needed to develop a hypersonic weapon.
Officials have started a review of the test, which took place Thursday at the Pacific Spaceport Complex in Kodiak, Alaska, to understand the cause of the booster failure.
"Experiments and tests -- both successful and unsuccessful -- are the backbone of developing highly complex, critical technologies at tremendous speed, as the department is doing with hypersonic technologies," said Lt. Cdr. Tim Gorman, a Pentagon spokesman, in a statement.
The Pentagon has made developing hypersonic weapons one of its top priorities, particularly as China and Russia are working to develop their own versions. The failure is another blow to the US effort following a failed test in April and comes days after it was reported that China had successfully tested a hypersonic glide vehicle.
Traveling at Mach 5 or faster, hypersonic weapons are difficult to detect, posing a challenge to missile defense systems. Hypersonic missiles can travel at a far lower trajectory than high-arcing ballistic missiles, which can be easily detectable. Hypersonics can also maneuver and evade missile defense systems.
Over the weekend, the Financial Times reported that China had successfully tested a hypersonic glide vehicle capable of carrying a nuclear weapon. They reported the glide vehicle was launched from an orbital bombardment system. Though China denied the report, saying on Monday that the test was instead a "routine spacecraft experiment.
Defense officials say they are particulary concerned about China developing hypersonic capabilities because they could enable Beijing to launch an attack over the South Pole, evading US missile defenses, which are generally geared toward missiles coming over the North Pole.
Two weeks ago, Russia claimed to have successfully tested a submarine-launched hypersonic missile for the first time, dubbed the Tsirkon. Earlier this summer, Russia said it had fired the same missile from a warship.
Nevertheless, the Pentagon insists it remains on track to deliver offensive hypersonic weapons in the early 2020s, a timeline that seems more urgent with the advances in hypersonic technology shown off by the Russians and Chinese.
"This flight test is part of an ongoing series of flight tests as we continue to develop this technology," Gorman said.
The failed test of a hypersonic glide body occurred after the Navy and Army earlier this week conducted a series of successful hypersonic measurement tests highlighting the Pentagon's priority of rapidly researching and testing the weapon system. The three joint sounding tests were designed to collect data and carry out hypersonic experiments from DoD partners involved in developing the advanced weapons.
"These launches allow for frequent and regular flight testing opportunities to support rapid maturation of offensive and defensive hypersonic technologies," the Navy said in a statement about the trials.
Those tests, carried out at NASA's Wallops Flight Facility on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, provide data for the development of the services' hypersonic weapons, including the Navy's Conventional Prompt Strike and the Army's Long Range Hypersonic Weapon.
The US is focusing on conventional hypersonic weapons that are based on ships, land and air platforms.
In April, the Air Force's hypersonic missile program suffered a setback when it failed to launch from a B-52. Instead, the AGM-183A Air-launched Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) remained on the aircraft.
Hogwrench
Senior Member
About 5-6 minutes. Much less than the 30 for traditional ICBM.
Hogwrench
Senior Member
Here is a video of Russia’s launch a few years ago. Pretty damn impressive the speed and sound.
vector7
Dot Collector
okie-carbine
Veteran Member
They know they can fly lots of planes at Taiwan and nothing will happen. Now they know they can launch nuclear missiles all the way around the world and nothing will happen.
This is known as conditioning.
One of these days, the world will think it is just another test run, but it will be the real thing. And it will be too late to do anything about it.
God help us.
This is known as conditioning.
One of these days, the world will think it is just another test run, but it will be the real thing. And it will be too late to do anything about it.
God help us.
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
Not quite. It can be equivalent to conventional high explosives in energy released in the impact.
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
The book makes it clear, when it happens, there will not be time to go inside, it will be a run for the hills moment. I think this is mainly for those in towns that are targeted......seems to all make sense these day.....these last days...wake up people, prepare accordingly..buy more food.
Hypersonic is defined as anything greater than mach 5. Quite a few spacecraft re-enter atmosphere at what they call "high hypersonic" speeds (mach 10 to 25). The Soyuz and Dragon space capsules and the retired Shuttle all re-enter(ed) at high hypersonic speeds. None of them would impact at anything remotely resembling a nuclear blast even if they didn't slow down in the atmosphere.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Over 3.5 years, at a minimum.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Well, no. It would be highly energetic as an impact-only event, but not nuclear level energetic. Certainly more than a JDAM or similar modern gravity bomb, of course.
The danger is the ability to hit things pretty far away, very, very fast, and pretty much impossible to shoot down with current interceptor tech. Nuclear tipped? It's a knife at our throat 24/7/365.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
The speed and stealth of this weapon system leaves no room for negotiation, no means to pull back. If they hit the green button, we'll never know it until the impacts come. Even with the more customary nuclear posture, there's some indication of something going on, and a slim chance to stop things, or barring that, a chance at intercepting some of the inbounds.
With this, it doesn't matter if we have parity or even supremacy. It's all about the first strike. If China decides to use this in a first strike, we may get to retaliate, still we WILL get a right good schlonging.
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Redleg
Veteran Member
Need one with the military leadership...
Trouble
Veteran Member
We are so behind the curve here, we worry about placating the fags and monkies. We have a border that is wide open. We are more concerned about making up new acronyms for some dipshit born with a penis dressed like a woman than defending ourselves from our enemies. We deserve what's coming our way. We have allowed this to happen. We are a joke on the world stage and rightly so.
Hogwrench
Senior Member
Just ran the numbers on it and you are correct. A 2000 lb projectile at Mach 11 would equal just shy of 11 tons of tnt. So Moab size. The larger the projectile the larger the equivalent.
Wishful thinking.
This is exactly what is going to happen.
Yeah, both the solid penetrator/KE type and the secondary/CBU types suggested over the years.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Probably in conjunction with the Ezekiel 37-38 or Gog-Magog invasion of Israel---
"Fire" will be sent "on the coastlands, and they they dwell securely in the isles" (word can also be translated "continents")
et2
Has No Life - Lives on TB
So Milley assures China “we” won’t hurt them under Trump in the last days. What were they scared of if they had this technology? It’s not new. We were doing this years ago. We know what’s going on across the pond, even if we’re involved with it.
Trump now being gone, the Chinese are showing off. Trump would have turned the screws even tighter on them If they pulled this with him.
Biden is allowing the USA to look defeated in the worlds eyes. While China grows more emboldened as others. Who’s gonna take the keys from China Joe?
We all know if they do blast us. It won’t end well at all for them or anyone.
Trump now being gone, the Chinese are showing off. Trump would have turned the screws even tighter on them If they pulled this with him.
Biden is allowing the USA to look defeated in the worlds eyes. While China grows more emboldened as others. Who’s gonna take the keys from China Joe?
We all know if they do blast us. It won’t end well at all for them or anyone.
Johnny Reb
Senior Member
Rubbing salt in Biden's wounds
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
China is playing with a Mach 5, maneuvering, reentry vehicle released from a mothership spacecraft.
The US's X-37 is a Mach 25, maneuvering, aerospace vehicle capable of on-orbit maneuvering and releasing armed reentry vehicles (in theory). The Space Shuttle was a manned, Mach 25, maneuvering aerospace vehicle capable of hauling school bus-sized cargo.
One of the 1980s/90s mystery aircraft reported flying was called Bouncer, aka: Flaming Pumpkinseed. Novel propulsion allowing double-digit Mach performance of orbital velocities and able to change course by diving from orbit into the atmosphere to make the change and then climbing back to orbital altitude (bouncing). It was covered in Space Shuttle tiles for thermal protection from the heat of its flight regime. And it had been designed from the start with a weapons delivery system that ejected multiple nuclear reentry vehicles out the bottom.
Supposedly work on that project was halted because of arguments that it violated the ban on nuclear weapons in space. I'm betting that old documents are being dusted off and people are visiting a dusty aircraft that hasn't flown in decades out in a hangar in Nevada. Because China just violated the space based nukes treaty and we should be free to proceed ourselves.
And I think some people are feeling sick to their stomachs that they supported shutting down the south-facing Pave Paws radar sites and killing the Aegis Ashore system proposals for missile defense installations along the southern US border. We had detection capability against over-the-South-Pole missiles and were on the threshold of having missile defense against such threats, and it got shitcanned by idiots who wanted to use the funding for more midnight basketball courts or such shit.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
If it's the last days then why do I need to buy more food?
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
I've been hearing that "we're in the last days" since I wuz a kid. Seems to take a while.
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
Suggest you investigate what people are reporting that goes-on in the night skies. Get some quality night-vision and spend some time and be blown away. Find-out what's going-on on the moon and Mars. We're not in Kansas any more; just our minds from MSM crap.
I wondered what the overlap was and checked the dates ... is it just an interesting coincidence that during both hypersonic missile tests the Chinese had taikonauts onboard their new space station or is a manned presence at their space station a necessary condition for controlling the missile?
2021/10/21 - hypersonic missile test #2
2021/10/15 - Shenzhou-13 launched (still at space station)
2021/08/?? - hypersonic missile test #1
2021/06/17 - Shenzhou-12 launched (at space station until 2021/09/17)
2021/10/21 - hypersonic missile test #2
2021/10/15 - Shenzhou-13 launched (still at space station)
2021/08/?? - hypersonic missile test #1
2021/06/17 - Shenzhou-12 launched (at space station until 2021/09/17)
Shadow
Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
Masterchief117
I'm all about the doom
For the days leading up to The Last Day.