LEGAL BO BORN IN THE USA? Eligibility arguments to get court hearing
- Thread starter SassyinAZ
- Start date
Usually Curious
Inactive
sheesh, i hope the judge doesn't have a heart attack before they get to trial!
momof23goats
Deceased
this is wonderful news, hope the judge doesn't get ill and die between now and the next court day.
Sysman
Old Geek <:)=
Even if this is a Fed Judge, it won't matter until the US Supreme Court decides. So far they've refused to even listen... 
With all the money BOZO dumped into keeping his "private life" private, it will take years of legal maneuvering to get past it all. Schmuck...
Plus I'm sure the Dem congress will do whatever they can to "hold things up" for as long as possible...
Sorry, I'ld like to see BOZO, and most of the other clowns in DC turned into road kill as much as the next guy, but we ain't gonna get him with this. I think he'll be able to "skate" for at least another 3.5 years...
With all the money BOZO dumped into keeping his "private life" private, it will take years of legal maneuvering to get past it all. Schmuck...
Plus I'm sure the Dem congress will do whatever they can to "hold things up" for as long as possible...
Sorry, I'ld like to see BOZO, and most of the other clowns in DC turned into road kill as much as the next guy, but we ain't gonna get him with this. I think he'll be able to "skate" for at least another 3.5 years...
mbabulldog
Inactive
can you imagine the damage this knucklehead will have caused the USA if in fact he is ineligible? He just got done spending our great-grandchildrens tax payments, he's rolling over and shown his pink puppy dog tummy to the world, and he's taken over some of the biggest industries this world has ever known, all along knowing he could be called out on these charges.
To me, it's called treason, but that's just one mans humble opinion.
To me, it's called treason, but that's just one mans humble opinion.
American Rage
Inactive
It ain't just his treason, but the treason of the higherups of the dem party.
Of course, they'll lie and claim that the people elected him anyway, and the constitution is open to "interpretation." Then they'll organize violent street protests and blacks will threaten to riot in every city in America. The media will play sympathetic news stories, and in the end the left will win again.
Rage
TECH32
Veteran Member
Even if this is a Fed Judge, it won't matter until the US Supreme Court decides. So far they've refused to even listen...
Actually a FEDERAL Judge will have jurisdiction to order the state to release ORIGINAL copies of the birth certificate (if they exist) along with any other records sought (college, immigration, etc). State judges in previous cases lacked the power to do that.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/07/opponents-of-barack-obamas-presidency-claim-small-court-victory.html
LA Times has the story on their blog now. However, they are downplaying it as expected by the MSM.
LA Times has the story on their blog now. However, they are downplaying it as expected by the MSM.
Hey, Marine! Remember the oath we took......" to uphold and defend the Constitution aganist ALL enemies, Foreign and DOMESTIC....."
Jarhead
And you should know there is no such thing as a formor Marine!! Once a Marine always a Marine.
If this info become public then the court of public opinion will move things along quickly.
I hope.
I think the legal term is! Subpoena duces tecum(*)!! Law; A subpoena requiring a person to bring into court with him or her certain specified things, such as papers, books, financial records, or other documents [(*) New Latin literally, under penalty bring with you] In this country even the humble Magistrate is empowered and has the authority to do this.
Jarhead
Has No Life - Lives on TB
And you should know there is no such thing as a formor Marine!! Once a Marine always a Marine.
RAAAHH
Jarhead
Walker10
Veteran Member
None of this will mean squat frankly.
Too much time has passed since Barry got elected. Too many laws and decisions have been made for them to be reversed if he is found to be ineligible. Somehow this will swept under the rug because TPTB will do the math and conclude that if Barry is found to be ineligible, chaos would ensue in reversing all the things that have been done since he was elected.
Too much time has passed since Barry got elected. Too many laws and decisions have been made for them to be reversed if he is found to be ineligible. Somehow this will swept under the rug because TPTB will do the math and conclude that if Barry is found to be ineligible, chaos would ensue in reversing all the things that have been done since he was elected.
If they have ANY brains whatsoever, they know that chaos is about to ensue regardless of this decision. People are getting FED-up
fruit loop
Inactive
The daily birth cert thread....this may set a record.....
fruit loop
Inactive
Denfoote, that's exactly what I've been saying......that even if the birth cert was reproduced on every billboard, you people would then whine that it's been faked.
You will never be satisfied. There will always be an excuse to whine.
You will never be satisfied. There will always be an excuse to whine.
Copter Doctor
Inactive
Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, aka Barock Hussein Obama, aka Obama II, aka.... has spent $800,000.00 plus thru twelve ? law offices hiding his past. Yeah, he has something to hide. Posters claiming the Democratic party failed (AGAIN) to provide diligance, are correct. They all need to go! That includes SCOTUS if it can be proved they acted to prevent 'riots' rather than execute law. I wouldn't mind giving a bunch of Repubs the toe as well. They sure haven't done anything about the impostor.
Laurane
Canadian Loonie
"The daily birth cert thread....this may set a record....."
It sure might set a record......for actually getting to Court, being heard and real evidence displayed. Then another record for evidence being understood, correctly interpreted and approved as factual.
And then wait for it.......Pres. Obama will still appeal - on what grounds I have no idea - but he has millions at his disposal, so he will keep on fighting to maintain his home in the White House.
There might even be some Democrats who will agree with the evidence that may support the President as not being legally installed. Those who are fair-minded and willing to support the Constitution.
It sure might set a record......for actually getting to Court, being heard and real evidence displayed. Then another record for evidence being understood, correctly interpreted and approved as factual.
And then wait for it.......Pres. Obama will still appeal - on what grounds I have no idea - but he has millions at his disposal, so he will keep on fighting to maintain his home in the White House.
There might even be some Democrats who will agree with the evidence that may support the President as not being legally installed. Those who are fair-minded and willing to support the Constitution.
sunflowerstation
Veteran Member
"You will never be satisfied. There will always be an excuse to whine"
back at ya.
Sunny
back at ya.
Sunny
Ragenomore
Senior Member
I disagree. Obama will be forced from office if this is proven, which I obviously doubt, Biden will take office. It will be one huge embarrassment. However, I do not think there will be riots in the streets.
The way things are heading, it wouldn't surprise me if there was dancing in the streets instead. People are starting to actually sit down and do the math...even some of the staunchest democrats I know are starting to admit that they don't like what they see.
This is West Michigan, though, where more people are still working than on the dole...Granholm has been in office for a while, and her track record is difficult to defend unless you blame Washington DC. Her and Obama rhyme alot regarding philosophy...
batterbiscuts
Veteran Member
its the plan
Ya know if i wanted to balkanize and fracture the USA, then having him not be eligible for the job would be a neat way to truly kick off a civil war.
Remember his comments about resting after july 11th. Well we got a lot of developements aroudn that day including this one being close to it.
Its all part of the plan, we just dont exactly know which direction the plan is coming from.
Batterbiscuts
Ya know if i wanted to balkanize and fracture the USA, then having him not be eligible for the job would be a neat way to truly kick off a civil war.
Remember his comments about resting after july 11th. Well we got a lot of developements aroudn that day including this one being close to it.
Its all part of the plan, we just dont exactly know which direction the plan is coming from.
Batterbiscuts
The Flying Dutchman
Inactive
The daily birth cert thread....this may set a record.....
Lady FL, sad to say.. The only 'record' I am seeing on this thread is the time worn, scratchy one that you keep playing, over and over, for us....
=
Present company EXCEPTED, of course.
You need to invite a few of them to participate in this forum to bring reason and balance to the resident radical libs here.
Copter Doctor
Inactive
Usually Curious
Inactive
there absolutely will bw riots in the streets if he is turned out of the WH, but maybe that is what they want? it will ignite a race war.
GingerN
Veteran Member
No, ma'am, that is not the case. I can not speak for everyone, but I have several questions that the standard answers he has given/not given don't fit. For instance-the 1981 trip to Pakistan. He could not have traveled there legally as a US citizen on a US passport at that time. How did he do it? If he did it on the sly, then he is unworthy of the office, but eligible. If he traveled on a passport as a citizen of another country, then he is INELIGIBLE to be President. If he did it by using someone else's passport, that is illegal, and he should be up on charges.
I do want to know where he was born. He should have to prove it to the satisfaction of the nation, he is supposed to work for us, not rule over us and be above our questions. He could have squashed all of this by producing the long copy that shows his place of birth, rather than the little short copy that only shows when he was born and who his parents were. It was not that hard to do. I have to do it to register my children for school. I think he should just quit HIS whining and do it. If it is showing that he was born in the USA, most of us will shut up about it. If not, he probably still won't get removed from office because God forbid those folks in DC admit that they screwed up as well and let an usurper pound the nails in the US's coffin. He would not be trying to avoid the issue if he didn't have something to hide. It is that simple.
Why won't he release his college records? Other presidents have. Is he concerned that they might show he was enrolled at some point as a foreign student? He is President, and his life prior to that should be an open book. There should be no secrets. He has already admitted he used cocaine. Ok, so spill the beans on the rest of it. He preaches TRANSPARENCY, practice it. Put his money where his mouth is. Maybe then people can stop wondering and we can put this country back together again. I don't give a rats patoot if the man is black, white, purple or green spotted. I care if he is an American Citizen BY BIRTH, and if he is strong enough to lead us in this world. I care that apparently he has a big ol yellow streak running down his ill mannered back when it comes to dealing with the rest of the world. I care that he talks to the nation as if we were a bunch of stupid children that must go along with every aspect he proposes without question and without reading what he is putting out there. Why is he in such an all fired hurry? I care that he is the representative of our nation on the world stage and all he can do is apologize for the fact that our nation has been a world leader and done the jobs that no one else can or will do, and that he has bad manners to those who are our allies. I care that he oogles 16 yr old girls blatantly. If he is gonna oogle (and he is a guy, so he is going to do that, and that is ok), learn to do it discreetly, for petes sakes.
Other questions I have that really don't pertain to the birth certificate would be who financed his education? That education didn't come cheap, and he was supposedly from a family that couldn't afford it? Who is pulling the strings?
Fruit Loop, as much as you love liberty, and are a patriot (and a Southern Patriot at that), surely you can't think that it is a good thing that the people that guided this man are blatantly un-American in their thinking and diametrically opposed to everything that our founding fathers and our beloved South fought for? You are judged by, and influenced by, the company you keep, and he has kept company with people that fit in more in the Eastern Bloc nations than the USA.
Honestly, I care about the Constitution being followed. He has not done that in any way shape or form. He does not have the best interest of the nation at heart. He is trying to steal power (hello-32 "czars" that are not vetted and can't really be toppled?), he is making a joke of our nation, and really shows the makings of a bully. If he was doing a good job, and really had the nations best interest at heart-all of the nation, not just the poor down trodden minorities- and loved his nation, I would probably stand behind him. AS IT IS, I WILL STAND BEFORE HIM.
TECH32
Veteran Member
Not me. Show me the original which lists the hospital, who delivered him, etc. and I'll be satisfied.
Ditto
mt4design
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Surprise
Inactive
Soldier: Obama not U.S. born, can't send me to Afghanistan
Soldier: Obama not U.S. born, can't send me to Afghanistan
The Columbus (Ga.) Ledger-Enquirer
MACON — U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook is seeking a federal court order to stall and eventually prevent an upcoming deployment to Afghanistan.
In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the United States District Court, Middle District of Georgia — Cook's California-based attorney, Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.
Cook further states he "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command, and that Plaintiff would thus be simultaneously unable to perform his duties in good Rule 65(b) Application for Temporary Restraining Order 22 conscience and yet be simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html
Here is a snip from another article regarding a hearing to be held "here" (here would be Georgia it appears based on web link) on Thursday July the 16th based on the date of this article.
fair use applies
Soldier: Obama not U.S. born, can't send me to Afghanistan
The Columbus (Ga.) Ledger-Enquirer
MACON — U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook is seeking a federal court order to stall and eventually prevent an upcoming deployment to Afghanistan.
In the 20-page document — filed July 8 with the United States District Court, Middle District of Georgia — Cook's California-based attorney, Orly Taitz, asks the court to consider granting his client's request based upon Cook's belief that President Barrack Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of U.S Armed Forces.
Cook further states he "would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command, and that Plaintiff would thus be simultaneously unable to perform his duties in good Rule 65(b) Application for Temporary Restraining Order 22 conscience and yet be simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties."
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1139969.html
Here is a snip from another article regarding a hearing to be held "here" (here would be Georgia it appears based on web link) on Thursday July the 16th based on the date of this article.
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/776335.html
fair use applies