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Bird flu that infected Texas man has mutated to spread more easily, CDC reveals — as three pet cats die from virus and biggest egg producer in US is hit with outbreak - report



Health officials report that the strain of bird flu that infected a person in Texas has mutated to spread more easily, DailyMail reported. This raises concerns about its potential to affect more people.
CDC finds mutation in bird flu sample linked to Mammalian hosts, assures low risk to public: Mutation not found in cattle or wild birds

The CDC mentioned that tests on the H5N1 sample revealed a mutation linked to the virus adapting to mammalian hosts. However, they assured that these mutations were minor and the risk to the public was low. This particular mutation was not found in cattle or wild birds, with officials suggesting it might have developed in the patient during the development of eye infection, according to report.

Reports indicate that three pet cats in Texas have died from bird flu. The cats contracted the virus on dairy farms.

Additionally, the largest egg producer in the US has confirmed the presence of bird flu in its flock. There are plans to cull nearly 2 million chickens. There’s growing apprehension that the farm outbreaks could disrupt the supply chain or inflate the prices of eggs and dairy products.

These developments come at a time of mounting worry that H5N1, which has already caused a pandemic in the animal kingdom, could similarly affect humans. The EU’s Food Safety Agency (EFSA) cautioned on Wednesday that if the virus becomes transmissible between people, it could trigger a widespread bird flu pandemic.
Experts warn of virus mutations amid concerns over Avian Influenza’s jump to mammals

Infectious disease experts caution that each infection in mammals or humans increases the likelihood of the virus acquiring new mutations that could enable it to infect people.

Dr. Francois Balloux, an epidemiologist in the UK, warned recently that the situation “might change for the worse, eventually.” However, he also mentioned, “People not professionally involved in pandemic prevention/mitigation being worried/feeling miserable now won’t make any material difference to what may hit us, except that their life would suck, far more than it should.”

Dr. Peter Hotez, a virologist at Baylor College of Medicine in Texas, informed DailyMail.com that these cases serve as “a reminder that avian influenza is circulating and continuously jumping to new mammalian hosts.” He added, “So far, the subsequent jumps to humans are still uncommon and not producing severe illness,” but he believes “this could change eventually.”

The CDC stated that the mutation detected in the virus infecting a dairy farm worker in Texas had been recorded previously and did not lead to a major outbreak at that time. This change, found on the PB2 gene related to how the virus replicates itself, has not been observed in wild poultry or infections in cows.
 

Wildwood

Veteran Member
Oh no...I pray we aren't forced to give up our small flocks. This might be a good time to start freezing eggs instead of incubating them. I don't have a freeze dryer.
 

Wildwood

Veteran Member
Does freezing in the shell work, or should you crack and freeze?
Crack and freeze is all I've ever seen done. I've had eggs freeze before and it does crack the shell but not before the egg is frozen solid so it may be an option. To be honest, I've never had to freeze them but I have seen people crack them into an ice cube tray but I'm not sure mine would fit in the sections without over flowing. I've got some small silicone muffin molds...I think I'll try those first. Silicone is so easy to work with.

Edited to add, then you can put the frozen eggs in a freezer bag and just take out whatever you need.
 

kelee877

Veteran Member
Crack and freeze is all I've ever seen done. I've had eggs freeze before and it does crack the shell but not before the egg is frozen solid so it may be an option. To be honest, I've never had to freeze them but I have seen people crack them into an ice cube tray but I'm not sure mine would fit in the sections without over flowing. I've got some small silicone muffin molds...I think I'll try those first. Silicone is so easy to work with.

Edited to add, then you can put the frozen eggs in a freezer bag and just take out whatever you need.
I have seen them use muffin pans for larger eggs
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Does freezing in the shell work, or should you crack and freeze?
I break them into a bowl, stir with a pinch of salt, and freeze in portions. I use a tray with a square cross-section and movable dividers to hold smooshy stuff flat while it freezes in ziplock bags. Works for cooked squash, kale packed in water, and similar. They thaw fast that way, and pack real tight in the freezer.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
“People not professionally involved in pandemic prevention/mitigation being worried/feeling miserable now won’t make any material difference to what may hit us, except that their life would suck, far more than it should.”

Cats sneezing? Dead birds in the driveway? Farmer friend dead? Don't worry. We don't want your life to suck more than it already does.
 

SSTemplar

Veteran Member
Had a discussion with the head of the Texas Agriculture Commissioner yesterday,Sid Miller.Got the political answer. The medical experts say it’s bad so we’re going to do whatever we have to in order to keep it out of the food chain.Couldn’t even give a death rate amongst uncared for animals much less humans. Flu is flu. Rest and liquids. The world has genuinely gone stupid. Get ready for a ride. Don’t even discuss your flocks with other people. Make your own decisions.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I wouldn't say I like the direction either, but it happened in Europe two years ago and in the early 2000s. Both times, we had to bring our small flocks inside; the last one was for two years. While I find the timing of this "interesting" and the "spread to cows" even more "interesting." The previous waves in Ireland affected cats (we were planning to lock up the barn cats in an outbuilding for months. All of our barn cats are indoor-outdoor, so we could keep them in the house if we had to). However, the only humans affected were those working directly with birds. The first run was more lethal to people who caught it. When we got down to two hens, Nightwolf shot them and then buried them wearing an N95 mask and gloves. This last wave wasn't as dangerous to people (these viruses vary a lot), so we kept them all inside (and now use that pen in the Winter).

The problem is that these bird "pandemics" happen every few years like clockwork. They spread faster than the swine flu (or the occasional version that affects both birds and swine) because birds fly. The last version got slightly into North America (via Canada) but, thankfully, didn't go full steam into the agricultural population.

In Europe, if there is a breakout (even in an enclosed industrial plant) within about 2 miles of you, EVERYTHING is culled, and they will check. The wave of this in the 2000s led to mandatory registration of all small flocks in Ireland, so this sort of thing can be USED as an excuse for greater regulation in the name of "safety."

Anyway, no matter the cause (and I have questions), this breakout seems real and spreading. But if "they" wanted a real pandemic, they would need a strain that went from person to person. Otherwise, it just culls the food supply - interestingly enough - beef, dairy products, chicken and eggs. Things that make you go hmmmm (or why are pigs not affected?)
 

Yarnball

Veteran Member
I break them into a bowl, stir with a pinch of salt, and freeze in portions. I use a tray with a square cross-section and movable dividers to hold smooshy stuff flat while it freezes in ziplock bags. Works for cooked squash, kale packed in water, and similar. They thaw fast that way, and pack real tight in the freezer.
Could you give a link to this smooshy flat freezing thing??
 

TxGal

Day by day
If I remember correctly, for freezing the egg must be 'scrambled' with a fork a bit to mix the white and yolk, then add a pinch of salt in each egg for those to be used for eating (like intended use for scrambled eggs). For those to be used later for baking, add a pinch of sugar instead. Be sure to mark the freezer bags to indicate which frozen eggs are to be used for eating and which are to be used for baking.

Apparently, the salt/sugar addition helps the yolk texture after freezing.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If I remember correctly, for freezing the egg must be 'scrambled' with a fork a bit to mix the white and yolk, then add a pinch of salt in each egg for those to be used for eating (like intended use for scrambled eggs). For those to be used later for baking, add a pinch of sugar instead. Be sure to mark the freezer bags to indicate which frozen eggs are to be used for eating and which are to be used for baking.

Apparently, the salt/sugar addition helps the yolk texture after freezing.
I’ve read these instructions for freezing eggs before
You’re correct.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I find that frozen eggs (scrambled with a pinch of salt or sugar) last up to several years in a chest freezer. They are not great for cooking eggs, but they are perfect for baking and cooking. I gather that freeze dryers work well for eggs (and might be your best option if you are lucky enough to have one). People do dehydrate eggs in regular dehydrators, but my understanding is that to do it from scrambled RAW eggs is not recommended, and the dehydrated ones don't work all that well, again, except for some baking. OK, in a pinch, but the freezer and dehydrator seem to be best. Pickling works if you like pickled eggs, but my household doesn't.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Anyone here think this will be an issue once the next flu season comes around?

Can you imagine if it manages to recombine with “our old friend” Covid 19?
Just in time for the elections or right before then?

Just random musing causes me to go places I really don’t care to go.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
I mentioned in another thread that the our Barn Swallows haven’t showed up yet. We’ve had them for 12 years on our porches. Some years it looked like something out of the Indian jungle we had so many flying around.
 

Wildwood

Veteran Member
This may answer some of the questions about freezing eggs...it really can be as simple as throwing the whole, uncracked egg in the freezer. Since I turn my eggs when frying, I think the whole frozen, in shell eggs could even be fried. For baking, I think the beaten eggs would be best. For meringues, etc., seperated and frozen would be the way to go. Now I have to manage some freezer room somehow. It was coming anyway...we are getting more eggs than we can eat for two families, even with DIL running a couple incubators constantly.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ey4PASve8s&ab_channel=EnglishCountryLife
 
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Wildwood

Veteran Member
I mentioned in another thread that the our Barn Swallows haven’t showed up yet. We’ve had them for 12 years on our porches. Some years it looked like something out of the Indian jungle we had so many flying around.
Ours didn't show up last year. I can't complain about the dirty porches from their nest building any more, which is sad. I though, for a fleeting second, I saw one yesterday when I went out to feed the chickens. Also, I saw one lone humming bird a few weeks back and not another sign of them since even though I have a few feeders out. Last year they were about a third the usual amount.

The possibilities make me sick on a few levels. I've spent a considerable amount of money on breeding stock for three different breeds of chickens and am beyond pleased with my buff orpington girls. They just started laying a little in the past few months and they are already laying five eggs out of six hens, a day. Some just started and aren't up to full sized eggs yet but they are laying and one of the first layers is already showing signs of being broody...that is what I got them for along with their dependable egg production. My first chickens, after a several years long break from them, were buffs...that was about twelve years ago. I've worked my way through several breeds since then and was thrilled to finally get them back.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Could you give a link to this smooshy flat freezing thing??
I think you're asking for more details on how I get the flat packages. I got several old aluminum trays with a cross section of about 5x5 inches, about 15 inches long, with vertical sides. Any squarish tray should do. I cut several dozen 5x5 squares of corrugated plastic sheet to fit, like yard signs are made from. To fill the tray I stand it at a steep angle in the sink, and load the bags of smooshy stuff from the bottom end one at a time with a divider after each one. When I've loaded them all, I use the remaining plastic squares to fill the remainder of the tray so the bags can't shift. Then I put the whole thing in the freezer. Once frozen, the bags can be stored in my other freezer trays.
 
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