theberkeyguy
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Just wanted to post one last Huge Thanks to All who responded or contacted us after we posted this article by Mike Adams on www.naturalnews.com
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HEALTH Big Berkey gravity-fed water filters are a top pick for clean water
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I just emailed your web site to friends that might be interested. If you get any orders from North West Iowa, They are probably my friends. When I get some extra money I plan on ordering one.
Norma
Running Dog
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I was told that a coffee filter and filter holder is a good thing to use. I have a stash of filters, just for this. pour the water through this, into a container, then if it filtered good enough the first time, then through the Berkey. Just a suggestion.
theberkeyguy
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Thanks so much, Maybe Dennis can peg this thread as a sticky thread, so more people can see the info here, and the code offered.
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China Connection
TB Fanatic
Look most dirty water can be cleared by just letting it settle for a week or so in a safe holding container and then siphoning off the surface water and leaving the bottom few inches.
Wise Owl
Deceased
China, you are the one who wants us to eat maggots. Now you want us to skimp on our water?
And most people needing water, don't want to wait a week for a drink.
With my our Berkie, I can put the water out in the ditch into it and drink it in about 10 mins. I don't have to wait for a week for it to "settle"..
We have two adults and two dogs who drink out of our Berkey. It was money spent well. It is part of our daily life. It's habit to check it to see if it needs filling around 10 and after dinner at night.
Without it, we would be going to the spring 10 miles from here for water or buying it. Both are expensive with gas being $3 a gallon now and water costing $1.50 a gal. Our Berkey is paid for. We have extra filters put back but the ones in it will last us at least another year so we are good for at least 4 years on filters.
We have a katydyne as a bugout bag backup but what a pain in the behind that is. I hate that thing. And it's slow.
Water is precious. A good filter should be bought before most anything else for your preps and extra filters to make sure you are covered for awhile.
And most people needing water, don't want to wait a week for a drink.
With my our Berkie, I can put the water out in the ditch into it and drink it in about 10 mins. I don't have to wait for a week for it to "settle"..
We have two adults and two dogs who drink out of our Berkey. It was money spent well. It is part of our daily life. It's habit to check it to see if it needs filling around 10 and after dinner at night.
Without it, we would be going to the spring 10 miles from here for water or buying it. Both are expensive with gas being $3 a gallon now and water costing $1.50 a gal. Our Berkey is paid for. We have extra filters put back but the ones in it will last us at least another year so we are good for at least 4 years on filters.
We have a katydyne as a bugout bag backup but what a pain in the behind that is. I hate that thing. And it's slow.
Water is precious. A good filter should be bought before most anything else for your preps and extra filters to make sure you are covered for awhile.
theberkeyguy
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DannyBoy
Veteran Member
OK, I just never thought that you could expect it to remove viruses.... what exactly does that mean? That is exactly the wording on the website. Does that mean Coliphage is the name of the virus it kills (removes)?
By the way, I have a bottle I got from you a couple months back. I like it. (Although I had to pay for it
) I like it because it does not use iodine, which actually goes bad over a period of time. I can store it for years. Something to keep in mind, if you are depending on an Iodine type filtration system in your bug out bag. Iodine filters have an expiration date! Even if not shown, they do deteriorate.I do intend to order a couple more sport bottles. (I bought some of the black and flouride filters at the time also.)
Dan
OK, I just never thought that you could expect it to remove viruses.... what exactly does that mean? That is exactly the wording on the website. Does that mean Coliphage is the name of the virus it kills (removes)?
By the way, I have a bottle I got from you a couple months back. I like it. (Although I had to pay for it
I do intend to order a couple more sport bottles. (I bought some of the black and flouride filters at the time also.)
Dan
Dan,
can you give us an example of an iodine filter, it sounds less messy than the iodine tablets I pack.
DannyBoy
Veteran Member
The Katadyne sport type "My Bottle" for one... It has iodine in it as a stage, then removes it in a later stage, but there are many others. Let me check, I have one that is a pump type at home, trying to remember the brand it is.
Dan
China Connection
TB Fanatic
Wise Owl I am just answering a question as to how greater economy can be had out of the Berkie filters. Many aquarium filters are cheap to use also for filtering heavy matter out of a container before using your Berkie for finial filtration. There is noting cheaper but than just letting the water stand first before filtering.
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China Connection
TB Fanatic
Wise Owl I am just answering a question as to how greater economy can be had out of the Berkie filters. Many aquarium filters are cheap to use also for filtering heavy matter out of a container before using your Berkie for finial filtration. There is nothing cheaper but than just letting the water stand first before filtering.
My degree is in fish farming so I know a thing or two about water. For instance another method of settling stuff out.
Flocculants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flocculation
Particles finer than 0.1 µm (10-7m) in water remain continuously in motion due to electrostatic charge (often negative) which causes them to repel each other. Once their electrostatic charge is neutralized by the use of coagulant chemical, the finer particles start to collide and agglomerate (combine together) under the influence of Van der Waals's forces. These larger and heavier particles are called flocs.
Flocculants, or flocculating agents (also known as flocking agents), are chemicals that promote flocculation by causing colloids and other suspended particles in liquids to aggregate, forming a floc. Flocculants are used in water treatment processes to improve the sedimentation or filterability of small particles. For example, a flocculant may be used in swimming pool or drinking water filtration to aid removal of microscopic particles which would otherwise cause the water to be turbid (cloudy) and which would be difficult or impossible to remove by filtration alone.
Many flocculants are multivalent cations such as aluminium, iron, calcium or magnesium.[6] These positively charged molecules interact with negatively charged particles and molecules to reduce the barriers to aggregation. In addition, many of these chemicals, under appropriate pH and other conditions such as temperature and salinity, react with water to form insoluble hydroxides which, upon precipitating, link together to form long chains or meshes, physically trapping small particles into the larger floc.
Long-chain polymer flocculants, such as modified polyacrylamides, are manufactured and sold by the flocculant producing business. These can be supplied in dry or liquid form for use in the flocculation process. The most common liquid polyacrylamide is supplied as an emulsion with 10-40% actives and the rest is a carrier fluid, surfactants and latex. Emulsion polymers require activation to invert the emulsion and allow the electrolyte groups to be exposed.
The following chemicals are used as flocculants:[citation needed]
* alum
* aluminium chlorohydrate
* aluminium sulfate
* calcium oxide
* calcium hydroxide
* iron(II) sulfate
* iron(III) chloride
* polyacrylamide
* polyDADMAC
* sodium aluminate
* sodium silicate
The following natural products are used as flocculants:[7]
* Chitosan
* Isinglass
* Moringa oleifera seeds (Horseradish Tree)
* Gelatin
* Strychnos potatorum seeds (Nirmali nut tree)
* Guar gum
* Alginates (brown seaweed extracts)
.
My degree is in fish farming so I know a thing or two about water. For instance another method of settling stuff out.
Flocculants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flocculation
Particles finer than 0.1 µm (10-7m) in water remain continuously in motion due to electrostatic charge (often negative) which causes them to repel each other. Once their electrostatic charge is neutralized by the use of coagulant chemical, the finer particles start to collide and agglomerate (combine together) under the influence of Van der Waals's forces. These larger and heavier particles are called flocs.
Flocculants, or flocculating agents (also known as flocking agents), are chemicals that promote flocculation by causing colloids and other suspended particles in liquids to aggregate, forming a floc. Flocculants are used in water treatment processes to improve the sedimentation or filterability of small particles. For example, a flocculant may be used in swimming pool or drinking water filtration to aid removal of microscopic particles which would otherwise cause the water to be turbid (cloudy) and which would be difficult or impossible to remove by filtration alone.
Many flocculants are multivalent cations such as aluminium, iron, calcium or magnesium.[6] These positively charged molecules interact with negatively charged particles and molecules to reduce the barriers to aggregation. In addition, many of these chemicals, under appropriate pH and other conditions such as temperature and salinity, react with water to form insoluble hydroxides which, upon precipitating, link together to form long chains or meshes, physically trapping small particles into the larger floc.
Long-chain polymer flocculants, such as modified polyacrylamides, are manufactured and sold by the flocculant producing business. These can be supplied in dry or liquid form for use in the flocculation process. The most common liquid polyacrylamide is supplied as an emulsion with 10-40% actives and the rest is a carrier fluid, surfactants and latex. Emulsion polymers require activation to invert the emulsion and allow the electrolyte groups to be exposed.
The following chemicals are used as flocculants:[citation needed]
* alum
* aluminium chlorohydrate
* aluminium sulfate
* calcium oxide
* calcium hydroxide
* iron(II) sulfate
* iron(III) chloride
* polyacrylamide
* polyDADMAC
* sodium aluminate
* sodium silicate
The following natural products are used as flocculants:[7]
* Chitosan
* Isinglass
* Moringa oleifera seeds (Horseradish Tree)
* Gelatin
* Strychnos potatorum seeds (Nirmali nut tree)
* Guar gum
* Alginates (brown seaweed extracts)
.
theberkeyguy
Contributing Member
OK, I just never thought that you could expect it to remove viruses.... what exactly does that mean? That is exactly the wording on the website. Does that mean Coliphage is the name of the virus it kills (removes)?
By the way, I have a bottle I got from you a couple months back. I like it. (Although I had to pay for it
I do intend to order a couple more sport bottles. (I bought some of the black and flouride filters at the time also.)
Dan
In relation to Viruses, the only claims that are made have to do with the viruses mentioned. Those have been specifically tested.
theberkeyguy
Be Well
may all be well
Berkyguy, I sort of asked on the previous page but I don't think I was clear. How do I know when I need to change filters? I thought it was when they've worn by cleaning them so you could see a bit of black through. I hardly clean mine, maybe twice a year, since my water is so clean.
I can only assume that they continue to do their job. Am I wrong?
I can only assume that they continue to do their job. Am I wrong?
theberkeyguy
Contributing Member
Please do a food coloring test by putting a few drops of red food coloring in the top chamber, and then making sure the black berkey elements are removing all the color, it should not be pink. That is one way to check to make sure they are working correctly.
theberkeyguy
lectrickitty
Great Great Grandma!
Is there a special filter to filter the fluoride out of city water?
On a trip when I stayed gone a couple weeks, I took my travel berkey (black filters) to filter the city water. The water still tasted like fluoride (chlorine). I ended up buying bottled water and filtering it before drinking.
The chlorine smell in the water was so strong that I got a headache from it when I washed my hands. I couldn't wait to get home to my clean well water. I don't know what all they put in city water, but it's some really nasty smelling & tasting stuff.
At home I use my berkey daily. You never know when some nasty little thing might creep into the well water, so better safe than sorry.
On a trip when I stayed gone a couple weeks, I took my travel berkey (black filters) to filter the city water. The water still tasted like fluoride (chlorine). I ended up buying bottled water and filtering it before drinking.
The chlorine smell in the water was so strong that I got a headache from it when I washed my hands. I couldn't wait to get home to my clean well water. I don't know what all they put in city water, but it's some really nasty smelling & tasting stuff.
At home I use my berkey daily. You never know when some nasty little thing might creep into the well water, so better safe than sorry.
theberkeyguy
Contributing Member
PF2 Fluoride filters is what you will need with your berkey system:
http://directive21.com/accessories-berkey-pf2.html
In relation to the water tasting chlorinated or fluoridated, be sure to check your black berkey elements to make sure they are working correctly. Please do a food coloring test, which means it should remove all the red color from the water.
I hope this info helps.
theberkeyguy
theberkeyguy
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If anyone can, please ask Dennis if he can sticky this thread, so others can use the Free item code in the beginning of this thread.
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DannyBoy
Veteran Member
I looked up the filter in my stash that is iodine based... it is a PUR "Scout". Not sure if it is still made, I know you can still by filter replacements for it. Again, I am not sure what the shelf life of those filters is.
Dan
DannyBoy
Veteran Member
Just curious, from ElectricKittys post, can you actually smell or taste Flouride? Obviously you can taste and smell chlorine, but is flouride something you can detect just by smell? That would be good to know.
Thanks.
Dan
theberkeyguy
Contributing Member
Not that i know of, or have heard, but it may have been other contaminants in the water that smelled.
theberkeyguy
I have a Berkey Light with the lighted base. I bought it in 2006. It served me well as I then lived very rural with non-potable well water. It never failed me and saved me a lot of money by being able to filter what I had on the montain instead of buying and lugging heavy containers of water like other people did.
The only thing I don't like about it is the blue lights that I chose (Oh how I wish I had ordered the white lighted base). It does work well for emergency lighting. (anyone want to trade me their white lighted one for my lovely blue?)
The sad part for me is that live in California and can no longer get more of the black filters.
I now live in a small town with regular tap water so my faithful Berkey has been put away to save for emergeny use. The filters are still good but I worry about not having back-ups for when tshtf.
I highly reccommend and can attest to the quality and benefits of owning this highly effective filtering unit. Except for the "oh no, woe is me I live in California" part that has blocked me from getting more filters.
I love it!
Light
The only thing I don't like about it is the blue lights that I chose (Oh how I wish I had ordered the white lighted base). It does work well for emergency lighting. (anyone want to trade me their white lighted one for my lovely blue?)
The sad part for me is that live in California and can no longer get more of the black filters.
I now live in a small town with regular tap water so my faithful Berkey has been put away to save for emergeny use. The filters are still good but I worry about not having back-ups for when tshtf.
I highly reccommend and can attest to the quality and benefits of owning this highly effective filtering unit. Except for the "oh no, woe is me I live in California" part that has blocked me from getting more filters.
I love it!
Light
theberkeyguy
Contributing Member
Dennis,
Can this thread be put on "sticky" so that the members here can use the Code that is on this thread.
theberkeyguy
Can this thread be put on "sticky" so that the members here can use the Code that is on this thread.
theberkeyguy
BUBBAHOTEPT
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theberkeyguy
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Dennis can't respond, he is on the road heading to LITTLE CHINA..........................
Berkey is definitely the best..............
Thanks so much, when he gets back, please let me know.
theberkeyguy