EBOLA ARE MILLIONS OF EBOLA-INFECTED AFRICANS GOING TO OVERWHELM OUR SOUTHERN BORDER?

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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On the "first case of ebola in the US" thread, HH posted this:


Pandora's Box was opened when we flew the first two patients to America and they survived! This has created the illusion of survivability if one can get to the USA! Hence the lying on the forms at the airport by the fellow in Dallas. And now the news is on 24/7 spouting his success at getting here. Expect those with resources and family here to mimic these moves immediately. And God help us if they come out and say he is getting better!

When your options are probable death if you stay, you will do anything and everything in your power to alter your fate.


My almost instant response was:


^ THIS

+1,000,000,000,000


Wait until the flood of tens-of-millions of desperate Africans overwhelm our borders demanding treatment. And you KNOW that the ******-in-chief won't lift a finger to stop them.

This country is doomed, and IMO in VERY short order....


Think about it folks. These Africans KNOW that getting here is pretty much their only chance to survive Ebola. As the infection and death rates ramp-up exonentially, these desperate, dying, INFECTED Africans will come here BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. We have no border controls in this country, at least on the southern one. We all saw what happened with "the children" who flooded across earlier in the year. They didn't try to escape. They threw themselves into the arms of BP agents.

The same thing will happen with these Africans. But this time, it won't be a couple hundred thousand. MILLIONS will flood across from the south. They'll be so thick it will look like army ants attacking. There will be NO WAY IN THE WORLD to stop them. And of course, the HNIC would never even try.

We're in really deep sh*t folks, and destined to get much deeper, really, really soon...
 

Green Co.

Administrator
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I've kinda wondered the same thing. I expect the first wave will attempt to come over on Tourist visas, as our current case, as it will be cheaper than paying a coyote. But in the end, our open border will beckon like a light house on a dark sea....
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Of course, once the first thousand patients are here, we're going to be in the same shape as Liberia, etc...

We don't have any more of a handle on the JIT supply chain (and the FDA is "trying" to get some more companies to ramp up and get licensed to produce vital IV fluids, because they are ALREADY in short supply- without Ebola patients using gallons of the stuff every 24 hours) than they do.

Of course, this is why I've been saying all along that self-isolation is the only practical way to give yourself some chance of surviving this epidemic. Counting on "the American way" to somehow protect us is just more unicorns and skittles...

Summerthyme
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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No need to pay a coyote. If you recall, they were hired to make sure that the illegals got in AND were released safely into cities and towns, without being picked up by BP. Since these Africans would have ZERO desire to avoid capture (quite the opposite in fact; only by being "in custody" could they get the immediate care they need), they'll just flood across. So thick that there will literally be no way of stopping them.
 

Hognutz

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The only thing y'all are forgetting is that they prolly could not come from the Southern Border.

Mexico has some common sense and would stop them from ever setting foot on their shore.

They might would even be so bold as to use (gasp) force.....

Of course that is just my opinion, and ya know what they say about opinions???
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
It may come down to a matter of the average length of the transit time getting from West Africa to Mexico if you get them to shut down flights out of the region and do real Customs/Immigration controls at the airports and harbors.

For that matter, I wonder how many coyotes would run the risk of catching this themselves.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
after the first couple hundred thousand die here people's desire to let uncle sugar keep the border will be non existent

it won't take long for this to turn this place into a 'shoot first ask questions later' type of social contract

again, study how the villages in africa made it thru the previous outbreaks

no one in no one out and if you even try you get shot
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Point being, our ******-led government would NEVER TRY to stop them, which means the PEOPLE would rise up and shoulder the task. Which means that the government would set the military ON THE PEOPLE to stop them. Which would ignite an instant civil war. And this one would be savage, with no quarter given, for at stake would not just be the country, but the personal survival of the people. Blood would run in the streets.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
yeah

complete agreement there

just change would to will

weird how its unfolding so similarly here, guv response wise and everything, like it did in w. africa
 

Vector

Veteran Member
On the "first case of ebola in the US" thread, HH posted this:





My almost instant response was:





Think about it folks. These Africans KNOW that getting here is pretty much their only chance to survive Ebola. As the infection and death rates ramp-up exonentially, these desperate, dying, INFECTED Africans will come here BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. We have no border controls in this country, at least on the southern one. We all saw what happened with "the children" who flooded across earlier in the year. They didn't try to escape. They threw themselves into the arms of BP agents.

The same thing will happen with these Africans. But this time, it won't be a couple hundred thousand. MILLIONS will flood across from the south. They'll be so thick it will look like army ants attacking. There will be NO WAY IN THE WORLD to stop them. And of course, the HNIC would never even try.

We're in really deep sh*t folks, and destined to get much deeper, really, really soon...

A mass exodus of millions from Africa would run into a large problem. Thousands of miles of Atlantic Ocean. To move the numbers you fear quickly would require every flying machine currently in existence and most of the floating ones too.

Tens of thousands of the wealthiest might try, thousands might get here (which is an unimaginable disaster in and of itself) but millions of infected would die---over there.
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
I think quite a few Africans will try. But many/most will have already been infected and will die before they get here.

Nonetheless, even a few thousand would be catestrophic for us.

I remember a prediction I heard/read recently. I can't remember from where. But the gist of it is that popular support for closing the borders will become so strong that HNIC and the congresscritters will do it.
 

Bolt

FJB
The flip side is, what would you do if you were in their shoes? If I had an illness that I knew would surely kill me if I remained in the U.S. I would do whatever it took to get somewhere that I could stand a chance of being cured. Now add that I found a country not only with an open border but free care, I'd go if I could. I'm not encouraging this, but I also don't blame people for doing whatever they can to stay alive. Pandora's box is certainly open and if this ramps up it could really get rough, especially if they come in via Mexico and start infecting them in the process. Mexicans are not exactly known for their hygiene. Consider the problems with "bathroom etiquette" of the newest wave of children mentioned here.
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
I also think this will shut down air travel. Who's gonna fly when there's no confidence you'll be safe from infection?
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Probably not, but this site seems on track for being overwhelmed with a million Ebola related posts.
 
The flip side is, what would you do if you were in their shoes? If I had an illness that I knew would surely kill me if I remained in the U.S. I would do whatever it took to get somewhere that I could stand a chance of being cured. Now add that I found a country not only with an open border but free care, I'd go if I could. I'm not encouraging this, but I also don't blame people for doing whatever they can to stay alive. Pandora's box is certainly open and if this ramps up it could really get rough, especially if they come in via Mexico and start infecting them in the process. Mexicans are not exactly known for their hygiene. Consider the problems with "bathroom etiquette" of the newest wave of children mentioned here.

I am not picking on you but there is so much misinformation out there I thought it important to clarify. There is no cure for Ebola. There is supportive and palliative care. With that, the patient may stand a better chance of surviving, but ultimately those treatments do not offer a cure, per se.
 

JustCause

Inactive
A mass exodus of millions from Africa would run into a large problem. Thousands of miles of Atlantic Ocean. To move the numbers you fear quickly would require every flying machine currently in existence and most of the floating ones too.

Tens of thousands of the wealthiest might try, thousands might get here (which is an unimaginable disaster in and of itself) but millions of infected would die---over there.

Yep.

Always, ALWAYS look at the logistics. You couldn't get millions of people off any continent by any means known to man in a short time frame.

That being said, as noted above, even a few thousand would be the end of us.
 

Bob1313

Membership Revoked
I said something similar back in July when all this garbage started, I promise the HNIC is gonna make a pitch to bring potentially millions of his African brothers and sisters here on refugee status, do to collapsed economies resulting from ebola.

It's gonna start really soon, figure a couple of weeks at most and we'll start hearing about the Children, of course, there's tens of thousands of ebola orphans and it'll be the duty of white American taxpayers to pay for, care for and raise them on up to adulthood here in the goood old USA, everybody can have one, hell he might even make it law.

The kids will be the first wave, once they're here that'll kick the door open to millions of adults, because any and I mean any relatives of the kids will have to come here and help raise the sprogs, of course they'll be, mostly unskilled and unemployable, so they'll become government dependent and will breed like rabbits, all on the white taxpayer dime.

Believe what you wish but in my mind and through years of observation, the HNIC's ultimate goal is to screw over as many white's as he possibly can and he's doing a great job because white's in this country refuse to open their eye's. He wants to make you a minority in your country using your money, it's so God forsaken simple if people would just pay attention.............

Also is there any coincedence that Obama just outlawed antipersonel mines, I find it almost too convenient

No, but they can certainly HIJACK planes.

Bet this starts soon as well
 

Echo 5

Funniest guy on TB2K
Mexico needs to be steamrolled and rebuilt a la Japan and Germany. Mexico represents a clear and present danger to the survivability of the United States. That makes them an enemy.
 
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Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
Oh my gosh. Imagine millions of people coming to the United States for "treatment" (yes quote treatment)

We are sooooooooooooooooo in trouble. Maybe best to isolate yourself as much "as possible".
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Dennis, we can count on Obama to protect our borders and prevent the howling hordes of diseased people from pouring into the USA. ;) Does Camp Fooked still have room, Dennis?
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Mexico needs to be steamrolled and rebuilt a la Japan and Germany. Mexico represents a clear and present danger to the survivable of the United States. That makes them an enemy.

I have occasionally remarked that we just need to annex Mexico and then build a 50 or so mile wide DMZ on the southern border at the narrowest part of their southern border. The only way to fix mexico is to remove the problematic corrupted government, quash the gangs, eliminate any cartels, and build a solid agricultural and industrial base which will gainfully employ the people in a sustainable matter that will stop the migration issue.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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As a point of reference, the USA has a TOTAL of less than 1.8 million hospital beds across all of the hospitals currently in existence in the US.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I have occasionally remarked that we just need to annex Mexico and then build a 50 or so mile wide DMZ on the southern border at the narrowest part of their southern border. The only way to fix mexico is to remove the problematic corrupted government, quash the gangs, eliminate any cartels, and build a solid agricultural and industrial base which will gainfully employ the people in a sustainable matter that will stop the migration issue.


That would be fantastic! Except that we can't even do that HERE...
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
And many people will fly into this Country contaminating airline / airport employees as well as other passengers and who ever else they come in contact with.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
It will go something like this.

1. The ebola pandemic will continue to rampage in west Africa.
2. The African/******s here in the ole USA will demand that the
US government fly the diseased west Africans into the USA for treatment.
3. If the west Africans are not flown here and given treatment,
there will be massive Ferguson type riots all over this country.

The africans/******s have this country by the throat,
and they are not about to let an issue like what is happening
in west Africa go without massive outlays of money,
and blood from European/whites.

We are so screwed as a country, and there is no turning back.

Regards to all,
Nowski
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
Border Patrol on alert after 71 people from hard-hit Ebola countries illegally enter U.S. this year

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/he...ople-from-hard-hit-ebola-countries-illegally/

With a number of prominent conservative politicians raising fears that the Ebola outbreak could spread to the U.S. via the country’s porous borders with Mexico and Canada, Customs and Border Protection and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sought to reassure a worried public that they are doing everything they can to monitor people entering the U.S. – whether legally or illegally – for the virus.

“CBP and the CDC have closely coordinated to develop policies, procedures, and protocols to identify travelers that are known by U.S. public health officials to have a communicable disease and to handle in a manner that minimizes risk to the public,” Jennifer Evanitsky, a spokeswoman for the CBP told Fox News Latino in an emailed statement.

The CBP’s statement comes after Republican senator and prospective GOP presidential candidate Rand Paul raised fears that infected individuals could enter the country through the U.S.-Mexico border, stoking more concern in states like Texas where Thomas Eric Duncan became the first American to bring the virus to the country.

The “border is not only a danger for national security purposes, it is also a danger for a worldwide pandemic should it occur,” Paul told talk show host Glenn Beck.

A CBP report published online earlier this week on Breitbart.com broke down where undocumented immigrants are coming from and, between January and July of this year, at least 71 people reportedly arrived from the three West African nations hit with the current Ebola outbreak.

Republican Rep. Phil Gingrey of Georgia wrote to the head of the CDC last month about his fears that undocumented immigrants are carrying "swine flu, dengue fever, Ebola virus and tuberculosis” into the U.S.

"As the unaccompanied children continue to be transported to shelters around the country on commercial airlines and other forms of transportation, I have serious concerns that the diseases carried by these children may begin to spread too rapidly to control," he wrote.

While the CBP did not mention in its statement how it plans to monitor undocumented immigrants for the virus, the agency did say that it has been on the watch for anyone showing overt signs of the illness and all officers have been trained on how to identify a prospective Ebola patient.

“When a traveler or alien is identified with a possible communicable disease or identified from information that is received from the CDC, CBP personnel will take the appropriate safety measures by donning personal protective equipment, to include gloves and surgical masks, which are readily available for use in the course of their duties,” Evanitsky said. “The traveler would be isolated from the traveling public while the CDC and local public health authorities conduct an evaluation.”

New fears that the Ebola outbreak could spread in the U.S. arose after Duncan became the first person to show symptoms of the virus inside the U.S.

Duncan left for the U.S. on Sept. 19 to visit family and became sick a few days after he arrived. He is currently in isolation at a hospital in Dallas, Texas, and is listed as being in serious but stable condition.

Days before he left Liberia, Duncan had helped carry to a taxi a pregnant woman who later died of Ebola, according to neighbors. Her illness at the time was believed to be pregnancy-related.

The disease is believed to have sickened more than 7,100 people in West Africa and killed more than 3,300, according to the World Health Organization.

Despite the worries that travelers will carry the virus across the globe, a spokesman for the United Nations secretary-general has warned that air travel to and from the West African countries affected by the Ebola virus should continue despite the first reported case in the United States.

Stephane Dujarric told reporters Thursday that "it's very important not to isolate these countries" as it would worsen their political and economic situations. He says aid groups need access to the region.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

Christian for Israel

Knight of Jerusalem
i'm not worrying about millions coming here from africa...i'm worrying about a dozen going to mexico with the idea of coming across and infecting millions of mexicans who are ALREADY coming here in droves...
 

pete5555

Membership Revoked
if millions of diesease laden neros with ebola flood the usa what difference will sheltering in place really do . i think it will just prlong the inevitable
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
i guess it all boils down to this:

anybody that doesn't self-isolate is going to receive the "touch" that infects with ebola. after the JIT medical supply system is overwhelmed, the hospitals will start turning away patients, just like in Africa right now. the airlines WILL shut down when the airline workers and the public finally figure out that they are doomed if they continue.

once the hospitals and the airlines shut down, the economy will do a nosedive, and Obama can congratulate himself with a job well done, as Russia and China prepare to invade. all is going according to plan. thank a Rockefella...
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
i'm not worrying about millions coming here from africa...i'm worrying about a dozen going to mexico with the idea of coming across and infecting millions of mexicans who are ALREADY coming here in droves...

Or infecting Mexicans in Mexico so they will come up here. :dvl1:
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Why do I get this overwhelming vision of SpongeBob SquarePants walking into the Krabby Patty and is engulfed in a sea of Anchovies? V
 
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