HEALTH Annual U.S. deaths from flu versus the spread of the Ebola virus....

[R.Tist]

While checking out the WHO's Web site, I found it interesting that the spread of droplets from a person with the flu can travel six feet, while the spread of droplets from persons with the Ebola virus can only manage to project their saliva one foot during a hearty sneeze.

I'm concerned about the motive/reason for the 'mandatory' Ebola/Rabies vaccine that the U.S. government wants to put in to play in America, the stated objective being that it would provide immunity to the Ebola virus.

The government doesn't mandate vaccination for the flu, and on average, 36,000 people die from the flu in the U.S. every year, while 4,023 people have died from the Ebola virus in the same amount of time.

The word I don't like is 'mandatory.' Isolation, containment, and proper hygiene and hydration therapy has proven effective in past Ebola outbreaks. Why wouldn't they prove just as effective now?

I'm uncertain, at this juncture, as to what to believe about the likely range and extent of a global Ebola pandemic, but am prepping as well as I can, as usual. I think we'll all know a lot more about what we're facing realistically by the end of the year - at least on this front, but with all the conflicting data floating around, and the CDC's constant assertions and then retractions, I get the feeling that no one knows, with any degree of certainly, what they're doing.

What do you think?

Artie.

 

[Housecarl]

Though the disparity in the numbers of deaths at the time of the data's collection are huge, what has to be remembered is that first most of the flu deaths (in a "normal" flu season) are of people with either compromised immune or cardio-respiratory systems whereas ebola is currently running a 70% infected KIA of anyone who gets it. That's the first point.

The bigger point is that ebola, like the flu and cold viruses, is RNA based and with more infections has more potential to mutate in ways that assists in its propagation. That in my opinion is the biggest threat since we're looking at a real life "The Stand" or "Satan Bug" with this thing if it improves itself.

 

[Betty_Rose]

The bigger problem, IMHO, is this is comparable to the early days of AIDS. We really don't know much about this lethal virus and how it spreads. There are a LOT of mysteries out there; stories told by health care workers who DO NOT KNOW exactly how they picked up the virus.

That, coupled with the fact that we DO know that this is a corrupt government that easily and readily lies to us, makes it really hard to know where the truth lies.

Plus, I believe the media has been told to "stand down" and stop reporting all the true facts on some of these cases. I'm still wondering - what's going on with Duncan's family that was quarantined?

 

[R.Tist]

I'm inclined to believe what I've heard on John Galt's most recent couple of broadcasts: what TPTB are calling Ebola, isn't Ebola at all, but rather a weaponized Marburg Virus (MARV). None of the five strains of Ebola have anything like a twenty-one-day incubation period, and they kill with extreme efficiency soon after first symptoms appear. Marbug, conversely, incubates for longer, has a higher kill ratio, and takes longer to 'do you in.'

Sounds about right.

Highly recommend listening to John's 'Half my audience will be dead by this time next year,' broadcast. And we're talking about an audience that's already 'prepped.'
It's... enlightening.

Artie.

 

[China Connection]

They whoever you like to call them want to depopulate. They pull the strings on just about all governments. So would such people be suddenly starting to care about you?

 

[Slatewiper]

I'm inclined to believe what I've heard on John Galt's most recent couple of broadcasts: what TPTB are calling Ebola, isn't Ebola at all, but rather a weaponized Marburg Virus (MARV). None of the five strains of Ebola have anything like a twenty-one-day incubation period, and they kill with extreme efficiency soon after first symptoms appear. Marbug, conversely, incubates for longer, has a higher kill ratio, and takes longer to 'do you in.'

Sounds about right.

Highly recommend listening to John's 'Half my audience will be dead by this time next year,' broadcast. And we're talking about an audience that's already 'prepped.'
It's... enlightening.

Artie.

Marburg does not have a higher death rate than Ebola Zaire.

 

[R.Tist]

They whoever you like to call them want to depopulate. They pull the strings on just about all governments. So would such people be suddenly starting to care about you?

Morning, China!

I've known about the Globalist agenda of depopulation to 500,000 since the Rio de Janeiro talks in 1992. Then, of course, we have the Georgia Guidestones, and the enthusiastic endorsements of depopulation by the late Jacques Cousteau, Princes William and Phillip, and a host of others who want to see Earth's population drastically reduced. My first instinct is to say, "After you!"

Prince William even said that he'd like to come back (after dying a natural death) as 'Something useful, like a virus.' Charming!

I have no doubt that the present epidemic, as badly mismanaged as it has been, could easily reduce the population of the planet by half, if not more.

I would LOVE to be wrong!


Artie.

 

[msswv123]

While checking out the WHO's Web site, I found it interesting that the spread of droplets from a person with the flu can travel six feet, while the spread of droplets from persons with the Ebola virus can only manage to project their saliva one foot during a hearty sneeze.

I'm concerned about the motive/reason for the 'mandatory' Ebola/Rabies vaccine that the U.S. government wants to put in to play in America, the stated objective being that it would provide immunity to the Ebola virus.



You're not the only one thinking about it





The government doesn't mandate vaccination for the flu, and on average, 36,000 people die from the flu in the U.S. every year, while 4,023 people have died from the Ebola virus in the same amount of time.

The word I don't like is 'mandatory.' Isolation, containment, and proper hygiene and hydration therapy has proven effective in past Ebola outbreaks. Why wouldn't they prove just as effective now?

I'm uncertain, at this juncture, as to what to believe about the likely range and extent of a global Ebola pandemic, but am prepping as well as I can, as usual. I think we'll all know a lot more about what we're facing realistically by the end of the year - at least on this front, but with all the conflicting data floating around, and the CDC's constant assertions and then retractions, I get the feeling that no one knows, with any degree of certainly, what they're doing.

What do you think?

Artie.

You're not the only one thinking about it...


Mandatory Vaccinations:
Precedent and Current Laws
Jared P. Cole
Legislative Attorney
Kathleen S. Swendiman
Legislative Attorney
May 21, 2014

PDF

http://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS21414.pdf

 

[LSV]

I'm inclined to believe what I've heard on John Galt's most recent couple of broadcasts: what TPTB are calling Ebola, isn't Ebola at all, but rather a weaponized Marburg Virus (MARV). None of the five strains of Ebola have anything like a twenty-one-day incubation period, and they kill with extreme efficiency soon after first symptoms appear. Marbug, conversely, incubates for longer, has a higher kill ratio, and takes longer to 'do you in.'

Sounds about right.

Highly recommend listening to John's 'Half my audience will be dead by this time next year,' broadcast. And we're talking about an audience that's already 'prepped.'
It's... enlightening.

Artie.

Where can I find this broadcast?
Lisa

 

[ainitfunny]

The "38,000 people die of flu yearly" NUMBER IS PURE FICTION And they admit it in several places on their website, BUT IT SERVES THEIR AGENDA AND THEY KEEP CITING IT.

 

[raven]

. . .
. . . .on average, 36,000 people die from the flu in the U.S. every year, while 4,023 people have died from the Ebola virus in the same amount of time.
.

You have heard that figures lie and liars figure?

What is the population of liberia? 4 million
What is the population of the US? 320 million

In Liberia, about 2000 people have died in 9/12 of this year - out of a population of 4 million.
- First you have to make 2000 an annual number. 2000 divided by 9 = 222.222 to get a monthly average. Then multiply by 12 = 2667.
- Now normalize it for the population. Divide 2667 by 4 million = .00066675.

In the US 36,000 die per year out of a population of 320 million. Divide 36,000 by 320 million = .000113.
.00066675 is six times greater than .000113.

From what I can tell, eBola is much more deadly than the flu and my figures just proved EBola is six times deadlier.
Boy I wish someone out there would prove me wrong.

Even if 36,000 is total BS, it still does not come close to Ebola.

And it does not matter what other statistical methodology you use.
The simple fact that the CDC, the US Government, and the news media is propagating this obvious lie
is prima facia evidence that Ebola IS deadlier than the flu

 

[DHR43]

You have heard that figures lie and liars figure?

What is the population of liberia? 4 million
What is the population of the US? 320 million

In Liberia, about 2000 people have died in 9/12 of this year - out of a population of 4 million.
- First you have to make 2000 an annual number. 2000 divided by 9 = 222.222 to get a monthly average. Then multiply by 12 = 2667.
- Now normalize it for the population. Divide 2667 by 4 million = .00066675.

In the US 36,000 die per year out of a population of 320 million. Divide 36,000 by 320 million = .000113.
.00066675 is six times greater than .000113.

From what I can tell, eBola is much more deadly than the flu and my figures just proved EBola is six times deadlier.
Boy I wish someone out there would prove me wrong.

Even if 36,000 is total BS, it still does not come close to Ebola.

And it does not matter what other statistical methodology you use.
The simple fact that the CDC, the US Government, and the news media is propagating this obvious lie
is prima facia evidence that Ebola IS deadlier than the flu

You're right - nowhere close to 36k die each year from what is called the flu. Perhaps a few hundred, probably less. Much less.

Regardless, the percentage for your flu numbers is virtually nothing. Even if the percentage of the US population who dies from the Big E was 6x as large, that still very low. Very low. VERY low. Vanishingly low.

And THAT'S with a US population whose immune systems are weak and unable to defeat much. In spite of that fact, almost nobody dies of the 'flu'. Just over nobody will die of the Big E.

And even less should you be concerned if you have and keep a healthy immune system.

Or, you can get all breathless from the 'threat' and panic.

I'm not.

 

[raven]

You're right - nowhere close to 36k die each year from what is called the flu. Perhaps a few hundred, probably less. Much less.

Regardless, the percentage for your flu numbers is virtually nothing. Even if the percentage of the US population who dies from the Big E was 6x as large, that still very low. Very low. VERY low. Vanishingly low.

And THAT'S with a US population whose immune systems are weak and unable to defeat much. In spite of that fact, almost nobody dies of the 'flu'. Just over nobody will die of the Big E.

And even less should you be concerned if you have and keep a healthy immune system.

Or, you can get all breathless from the 'threat' and panic.

I'm not.

Using the death rate for Ebola in Liberia on a population the size of the US, you get about 213,000.
Which is not alot of people - and I expect that most people on this board will easily avoid being in this category.
However, our health care system would probably be toast.

But the numbers - is not the point.
The point is that using the flu numbers the way they have been used is a blatant lie -
The opinion of anyone that says "flu kills 36,000 people a year and ebola only kills 4000 a years" is a deception.

 

[raven]

The really interesting thing is that
while they say only 4000 people have died
Which is nothing compared to the flu in the US,
They also say that by the end of January, there will be 1.4 million case of ebola in West Africa.

Now, if i believed that the worlds economy was threatened by deflation and they really needed to have a great reason to create more money
alot more money

 

[Be Well]

While checking out the WHO's Web site, I found it interesting that the spread of droplets from a person with the flu can travel six feet, while the spread of droplets from persons with the Ebola virus can only manage to project their saliva one foot during a hearty sneeze.

I'm concerned about the motive/reason for the 'mandatory' Ebola/Rabies vaccine that the U.S. government wants to put in to play in America, the stated objective being that it would provide immunity to the Ebola virus.

The government doesn't mandate vaccination for the flu, and on average, 36,000 people die from the flu in the U.S. every year, while 4,023 people have died from the Ebola virus in the same amount of time.

The word I don't like is 'mandatory.' Isolation, containment, and proper hygiene and hydration therapy has proven effective in past Ebola outbreaks. Why wouldn't they prove just as effective now?

I'm uncertain, at this juncture, as to what to believe about the likely range and extent of a global Ebola pandemic, but am prepping as well as I can, as usual. I think we'll all know a lot more about what we're facing realistically by the end of the year - at least on this front, but with all the conflicting data floating around, and the CDC's constant assertions and then retractions, I get the feeling that no one knows, with any degree of certainly, what they're doing.

What do you think?

Artie.

The 36,000 deaths from flu that the CDC made up is entirely false, made up of whole cloth, a lie, not true, etc.

The CDC used to give (or may still?) the American Lung Association the number of real tested flu deaths a year, but the ALA pulled the stats from their website a few years ago, I think around the time of Swine H1N1. The REAL numbers? Between 800 and 1200 or 1400 (can't remember which) flu deaths a year.

The 36,000 or whatever number they've pulled out of their @$$ is an sort of generalized number of how many more deaths there are in the winter than summer; I assume removing car accidents, gunshots, etc


It is a MADE UP FAKE NUMBER. The CDC is a political entity, keep that in mind. And where have you read that an Ebola vx will be mandatory? This is the first I've read of that.

 

[Be Well]

The "38,000 people die of flu yearly" NUMBER IS PURE FICTION And they admit it in several places on their website, BUT IT SERVES THEIR AGENDA AND THEY KEEP CITING IT.

To get people vx'ed. The last head of the CDC when she quit when 0vomit became pres went to work for Merck as the head of their vx department.

 

[DHR43]

To get people vx'ed. The last head of the CDC when she quit when 0vomit became pres went to work for Merck as the head of their vx department.

NOW we're getting to the point. Vaccinations.

BIG money for the pharma companies, plus the added benefit to the 'health care' industry who get to schedule & administer & PROFIT from the needles, plus the deaths and disabilities from the poisons & toxins that get pumped into your blood directly.

So what do we have?

1) A vanishingly small risk to us of dying from the Big E, let alone catching 'it'.

2) The opportunity to vaccinate millions of gullible citizens who can't think and who have been whipped up into a panic over, literally, NOTHING.

See below.

 

[ittybit]

iirc, reading a review of the samples sent to the CDC to test for 'influenza', 3% were positive. Yet, the other 97% of the Pts had symptoms which qualified them as 'flu'.

But, hey, let's all go get influenza shots every year, right?

 

[Be Well]

NOW we're getting to the point. Vaccinations.

BIG money for the pharma companies, plus the added benefit to the 'health care' industry who get to schedule & administer & PROFIT from the needles, plus the deaths and disabilities from the poisons & toxins that get pumped into your blood directly.

So what do we have?

1) A vanishingly small risk to us of dying from the Big E, let alone catching 'it'.

2) The opportunity to vaccinate millions of gullible citizens who can't think and who have been whipped up into a panic over, literally, NOTHING.

See below.

Flu and Ebola.

One of them is not like the other.

 

[R.Tist]

The 36,000 deaths from flu that the CDC made up is entirely false, made up of whole cloth, a lie, not true, etc.

The CDC used to give (or may still?) the American Lung Association the number of real tested flu deaths a year, but the ALA pulled the stats from their website a few years ago, I think around the time of Swine H1N1. The REAL numbers? Between 800 and 1200 or 1400 (can't remember which) flu deaths a year.

The 36,000 or whatever number they've pulled out of their @$$ is an sort of generalized number of how many more deaths there are in the winter than summer; I assume removing car accidents, gunshots, etc


It is a MADE UP FAKE NUMBER. The CDC is a political entity, keep that in mind. And where have you read that an Ebola vx will be mandatory? This is the first I've read of that.

I heard it here, on John Galt's radio broadcast. http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/20...audience-will-be-dead-by-this-time-next-year/

Artie.

 

[homecanner1]

We expect a certain amount of attrition for the over age 75 crowd to succumb to pneumonia and flu annually, its why that demographic is so heavily vaccinated in nursing homes

This however is something altogether different because it is striking down healthy young adults in prime of life, precisely as Spanish Flu did in 1918. That is a flaming red dot.

 

[skip1]

No Comparison

We never had Ebola. Ebola kills. It overwhelms your immune system at such a fast rate you have little chance to recover. Incubation period builds to critical mass, then you die. That is why their his high mortality rate