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workerbee

* Winter is Coming *
:usfl:

What a movie!

All showings at our theatre of choice were sold out today (we checked online) so we advanced purchased matinee show at a different theatre.....it was PACKED.

Bradley Cooper did a great job - sincerely.
And how can one go wrong with Clint Eastwood directing?

Glad we were able to go, I am not a movie goer....I tend to wait to rent, but if it's a movie I'm excited about I'll go.....but never on a weekend opening!
I'm glad we did this time.
Happy to have been a part of the crowd in that theatre.

Very powerful movie.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
I just got back from watching it. Incredible and sad story. Not a word from the audience in the theater as we exited.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Got the book for Christmas, want to read it before I see the movie.

Has anybody read the book and seen the movie?
 

Blue 5

Veteran Member
I intend to wait for this one on video, but am looking forward to seeing it. Thanks to all for the reviews.
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
Millwright,

You should be ok watching the movie then reading the book. The book will just fill in the details. We also watched the movie. Very powerfully done.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
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In the opening scene, US Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle (Bradley Cooper) is perched on a rooftop, scoping out the path of a US military convoy through his sniper rifle. He sees a man on a rooftop talking on a cell phone, and he appears to be watching the convoy, which Kyle reports it through his headset. He is told that if it the man is reporting troop movement, he has the green light to shoot him, but Kyle is unsure. His marine backup suggests that he may just be talking to his girlfriend on the phone. The man disappears from the rooftop and a few moments later, a woman and a young boy appear in the doorway of the same building and walk toward the convoy. Kyle reports the woman and boy, noting that the woman is not swinging her arms as she walks and appears to be carrying something. No one in the convoy can see it to confirm. He watches through the scope as the woman removes something from her cloak and hands it to the boy, and he realizes that it is a grenade. He again gets the green light to shoot, but his marine guard warns him that he will be sent to prison for shooting a child, if he's wrong.

The film cuts to a young Chris hunting with his father, and he shoots and kills a deer. His father congratulates him on his excellent shot, telling him he has a gift. Chris happily approaches the deer, dropping his gun to the ground as he runs to it. His father reprimands him for treating his gun cavalierly.

Over several scenes set in his childhood, we see young Chris, his younger brother Jeff and his parents attend church, where he pockets a small well-worn copy of the New Testament. There's also a scene of Jeff being beat up by a much larger kid on a playground. Chris runs up and pulls the bully off, beating him up. In the next scene, seated at the family's dinner table, Chris' father tells the boys that there are three kinds of people in the world - sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. Sheep don't believe that there is evil in the world, wolves are predators who commit evil, and sheepdogs are blessed with the aggression and bravery to protect the world from evil. The speech clearly makes an impact on Chris.

Years later, Chris is competing in rodeos with his younger brother traveling alongside him. He returns home one night and finds his girlfriend in bed with another man. He hits the man several times and kicks him out before turning around to kick his girlfriend out. She complains that he abandons her every weekend to go to rodeos, believing himself to be a cowboy when he's just a failed farmer.

As Chris and his brother watch TV, they see the news of the August 1998 terrorist attacks on the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. Chris is angry that US citizens are being attacked and feels compelled to do something to protect his country.

He visits a US navy office and talks to the recruiter. The recruiter suggests that Kyle might be interested in the SEAL program and hands him a pamphlet, but Kyle remarks that he's not much of a swimmer. The recruiter takes the pamphlet out of his hand and says that it's not for most men, but Kyle retorts that he's not most men.

Kyle goes through the rigorous training process, which includes being blasted with a powerful hose while exercising, laying down on the beach and letting the cold surf wash over him as well as being verbally harassed by the officers who run training, mocking him for being too old to be a SEAL at the age of 30. He also goes through sniper training, bringing in his hunting background. The instructor reminds them to 'aim small, miss small' - if they aim for a button on a man's shirt, they might miss by only two inches, but if they aim for the shirt altogether, they might miss by two feet. His instructor also tells him to keep his non-scoping eye closed, to better focus on the target. Kyle responds that he needs to keep both eyes open to see what else is out there. The instructor tells him that they are shooting at a target, and there's nothing else out there, and reprimands him with 50 push ups. Kyle proves him wrong by shooting a snake, hidden in the grass on the shooting range.

In the mean time, Kyle meets a woman named Taya (Sienna Miller) at a bar one night. She tells him that she would never marry a SEAL, as her sister did but was cheated on and lied to constantly. She also challenges him at drinking shots, showing off how tough she is, but she ends up vomiting outside the bar. Kyle is kind to her, holding her hair back and taking care of her. He calls her repeatedly until she agrees to date him, and their relationship progresses. She asks him at one point if she ever thinks about who will be at the end of his gun, and he tells her that he just wants to protect his country. On their wedding day, he and his fellow SEALs receive word that they will be deployed to Iraq, which they celebrate.

The film cuts back to the opening scene and Kyle watches the woman hand the grenade off to the young boy. As the young boy starts running toward the convoy with the grenade in his hand, Kyle pulls the trigger and kills him. The woman starts wailing and running toward the boy, and Kyle watches her closely. The woman runs past the boy's body to grab the grenade he dropped and continue running at the convoy. She is about to fling the grenade at it when Kyle shoots her. The grenade falls short of the convoy and explodes, leaving the troops unharmed.

Kyle returns to the base camp where a fellow SEAL congratulates him on his first kill. Kyle doesn't appear to regret the killing but admits that he didn't think this is what it would be like to protect his country.

Kyle continues to provide overwatch for marine units who are going door-to-door through an evacuated city, searching for an al Qaeda leader named Zarqawi. They are told that any military-aged male who remained in the city should be considered a threat. Kyle successfully watches over the troops, shooting many would-be attackers who carry guns and bombs. Kyle is dedicated to his job, even urinating in his post to avoid abandoning his watch. After a particular watch, Kyle reports that he had six kills, which is more than all the other snipers combined in the same shift. His fellow troops begin calling him The Legend. Also, a bounty has been placed on their heads by al Qaeda. Kyle also hears of an al Qaeda sniper who won a gold medal for shooting in the Olympics called Mustafa, known for making nearly-impossible shots.

Several times throughout, Kyle talks to his pregnant wife on the phone and she tries to get him to be honest and tell her about what he's going through. He resists but they talk and laugh together. She complains that she has to put the crib together by herself and they express how much they miss each other. She also tells Kyle that his younger brother has been deployed to Iraq as well.

During one overwatch post, Kyle watches a man walks out onto the street carrying a grenade launcher. Kyle kills the man. A young boy who had been playing nearby is startled and runs over. Kyle is concerned that the young boy will try to pick up the grenade launcher and he will have to kill him. The young boy struggles to get the grenade launcher on his shoulder, and Kyle prepares himself to shoot the boy. The boy finally gives up and runs away, and Kyle is clearly relieved.

At times, Kyle complain about being assigned to overwatch as he wants to be on the ground with the troops going door-to-door. He believes his training makes him better equipped than the Marines doing the job, and he can't protect them on overwatch once they're inside a building. He finally abandons his overwatch post and joins the Marines on the ground who welcome The Legend. As they go door to door they find a home where the family has refused to evacuate. The man tells them that it is his home, and he will not abandon it. Kyle questions the man with the help of an interpreter, showing him a picture of Zarqawi and asks him if he knows who he is. The man says that Zarqawi's second in command is a man known as the Butcher. He can give Kyle information on the Butcher, but he wants $100,000 in return. Kyle promises to help him, and the man provides a name. Kyle has the name checked out, which turns out to be useful intelligence, so they prepare to bring the cash to the man.

As the SEALs drive back to the man's home to bring him the money, Kyle calls Taya, who tells him that she has just learned their baby is a boy. Kyle is overjoyed when his vehicle is suddenly attacked and he drops the phone while it is still connected. Taya listens in horror to gunfire and screaming, unsure of what is going on. Mustafa is shooting at the men, and Kyle tries to take him out but is unable to do so as he is pinned down by gunfire. The Butcher found out that the man gave up information to the troops, and he kills the man's young son with a handheld power drill. He also shoots the man and screams out a warning to anyone who cooperates with the US military. The Butcher and Mustafa both get away unharmed. More troops arrive, and Kyle and his men are able to get out safely. A few days later, the troops return and Taya tearfully reunites with Kyle.

Kyle tries to adjust to life back at home. Taya finds Kyle watching a video of US soldiers being killed by a sniper and rushes to shut it off when he sees her. She tells him that she wants him to open up, but he doesn't want her to know about the atrocities they're facing in Iraq. The video shows Mustafa's kills, which he records and sells.

While at the obstetrician's office for a check up, the doctor asks him how he's doing, to which he responds that he's fine. She takes his blood pressure which is very high at 170/110. Both the doctor and Taya are extremely concerned about him, but Kyle brushes off their concerns and says he will take care of it. As they drive away, Taya tries to get him to open up, but Kyle just repeats that he's fine. However, as he's talking, he grows more frustrated as he tells her that he doesn't understand why everybody isn't talking about what's going on in Iraq and how people are just going about their every day lives. Taya goes into labor and they rush to the hospital where she gives birth to their son.

Kyle redeploys for a second and third tour in Iraq, continuing to hunt down the Butcher. The bounty on his head has been increased, and he jokes that his wife may go after it herself. In their search for the Butcher, Kyle leads a team of SEALs, including men he has served with for a long time, and they are clearly a close-knit group. One of his men, Mark begins to express regret about the war, and Kyle reminds him that they are patriots serving their country and protecting their families.

On one mission, the team gets intelligence that the Butcher may be hiding out in a particular building. The team breaks into a home across the street from the building though the man that lives there with his family says that they have no knowledge of any terrorist activity. The SEALs watch the building from the home, realizing they will have a hard time getting in when the man tells them that it is a holiday and he wants to invite them to be guests at his table. The SEALs join them for a meal, eating and talking boisterously. The man reaches across the table to his son, and Kyle notices that his elbows are rubbed raw, which somehow tips him that the man might not be as innocent as he professed. He gets up under the pretense that he's going to the bathroom and searches the apartment until he finds a hidden compartment in the floor filled with guns and weapons. He returns to the dining table, taking the man into the other room and showing him what he has found. He tells the man that he will help the SEALs get into the building. At gunpoint, they force the man to knock on the door. The door opens to allow the man in, as he is clearly known to the people inside, when a sniper takes out the door opener. The man grabs the door opener's gun and tries to shoot at the SEALs who take him out. The SEALs enter the building, clearing room after room looking for the Butcher who escapes through back tunnels.

In a casual conversation, another SEAL, Biggles reveals that he's purchased an engagement ring locally to save money. The men tease him about the quality and possible blood origins but Biggles laughs it off and says he will tell his girlfriend it's from Zales. In an ensuing battle, Biggles is shot in the face by Mustafa and they rush him back to the base where he goes into surgery. Biggles asks Kyle to promise to deliver the engagement ring he bought to his girlfriend back home, no matter what happens. The troops head back out immediately, burning to get revenge and Mark is shot during the mission and presumably killed. Biggles survives and is brought stateside for medical treatment.

Between deployments, Kyle continues to struggle to readjust to civilian life. Loud noises seem to startle him deeply. Taya gives birth to their second child, a daughter. When Kyle visits the hospital, he sees his daughter in the nursery and she begins to cry. The nurse is handling another baby and doesn't immediately attend to Kyle's daughter, and he becomes increasingly agitated, screaming at the nurse. His wife bitterly remarks that he is missing his kids' childhoods, and she has to create memories by herself. He argues that he is protecting the family and his country by doing his job, but Taya wants him to protect them at home.

While at an auto body shop, a young Marine approaches Kyle and tells him that Kyle had saved his life once in years past. The Marine asks Kyle if he would go down to the VA sometime to talk with veterans. He also talks with Kyle's son, telling him that his father is a hero and allowed him to go home to his own daughter. Kyle is gracious but feels uncomfortable with all the praise the young man gives him.

After his third tour, Kyle still cannot connect with his family and his home life. He visits Biggles in the hospital who seems to be in good spirits. Biggles shares that he is now engaged, having purchased a new ring that is actually from Zales, despite trying to warn his girlfriend that her life will be much more difficult being married to him. Kyle doesn't seem to comprehend what could be difficult about being marring to a SEAL, saying she's lucky to be married to a patriot who fights for his country.

Kyle still feels compelled to return to the war. He fights with his wife about it, with Taya demanding to know if he has a death wish. She says he's done his duty and it's somebody else's turn to go. She also tells him that if he leaves again, she and the children will not be waiting for him when he returns. He tries to smooth things over but deploys yet again.

After arriving in Iraq, Kyle sees his younger brother marching with his troop. Kyle cheerfully greets Jeff who is about to be sent home and is much more battle-worn and conflicted. Jeff wearily walks away and tells Kyle, "**** this country."

Kyle tries to call Taya but it goes to voice-mail. While talking with another SEAL, Kyle finds out that Biggles has died in a recent surgery stateside. Kyle and his team are told that engineers are trying to construct a wall around the city but a sniper keeps picking them off from over 1,000 yards away, leading the team to believe it is Mustafa. The team is sent out despite an oncoming sandstorm to try to take him out and protect the troops constructing the wall. They head out into the city and take their places on a rooftop, aiming at the direction they believe Mustafa is shooting from. However, Mustafa moves quickly and shoots from a different angle, killing another soldier constructing the wall, causing the SEALs to scramble to change their set up. Kyle believes he's spotted Mustafa through the scope though the rest of the team has a hard time believing him, as he's over 2,000 yards away. They don't think he can see Mustafa let alone shoot him at that distance. Also, the team spots many insurgents walking around the building and if Kyle takes a shot, it will alert them to the SEALs' location where they will be vastly outnumbered. The leader calls in a response team from the base, which will take some time to arrive. They warn Kyle not to take the shot and endanger them all until they have backup. One of the SEALs encourages Kyle to take the shot if he believes he can do it.

Kyle takes the shot, killing Mustafa, but the insurgents hear the gunshot and swarm the roof. The four SEALs try to conserve their ammo and take out the terrorists one by one that are rushing in on them. The backup is on its way but hasn't yet arrived so the men are on their own. Kyle tearfully calls Taya and tells her that he's ready to come home. The men shoot their way off the roof as the backup finally arrives as does the sandstorm. The men try to run into the vehicle but they have little to no visibility, struggling to see the truck, shoot the insurgents and protect each other. Three of the SEALs run into the truck bed but Kyle falls behind when he's shot. They slow down for him and he barely makes it back into the truck.

Kyle returns home. He is still not connected to his home life. At a family barbecue, Taya catches him watching the TV intently as if it were on, when it is actually off. She tries to get him to join the party, and they watch the children play. A dog grabs the collar of a boy and is tugging at it. Kyle suddenly rips off his belt and grabs the dog as if he might beat or strangle it until Taya cries out in horror.

Kyle goes to a doctor who tells him that according to his military records, Kyle has been credited with 160 kills, more than anyone else in history. The doctor asks if he has any regrets about killing those people, and Kyle's response is that he doesn't regret that, he only regrets not saving more American troops. The doctor tells him that there are American troops who could use his help at home. He takes Kyle to a support group of disabled veterans, many of whom have lost limbs. The men share their stories, and Kyle decides to take some of the men out to a shooting range and teach them to shoot sniper rifles. After hitting a target, one of the men remarks that it's the first time he's felt like a man since he was injured in battle.

Kyle has finally regained himself, playing with his children and connecting with his wife. He teaches his young son to hunt, telling him that it's serious business to end a heartbeat. He continues his work with veterans. Taya tells him how proud she is of him, for finding himself and finding his way back to his family. He tells her that a Marine's mom reached out to him, asking if he would help her son out who's been struggling since his return. Kyle opens the door and an uneasy young man waits for him by his truck while Taya watches. The door closes, and the final credits reveal that the troubled young Marine killed Chris Kyle and Kyle's friend.




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2dollarbill

Veteran Member
So you downloaded the plugin with no problem?

WW, NO! I don't download anything from these sites. I close them out, the popups that is, then just watch the movies. You should not agree to download anything from these sites, ever! If you go to Adobe.com and make sure your flash player is the latest and greatest as well. You should be good to go to watch all of these shows free, as long as you have the bandwidth.

I watch all the cable shows and movies for free, usually the day after they have shown on cable. Just have to be carefull and not let any of these sites fool you to download anything, or let them update any players they say you need. If you can't watch it on one site, go to a different site. Never missed a show the day after it ran or a new movie.

Good luck
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Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Please don't brag on something that is illegal. Thinking about doing it is one thing ... actually bragging about doing it is a recipe for trouble, for the person bragging and the rest of us as well.

As far as the movie goes, regardless of your stance on Chris, his wife, or the circumstances they lived through, if something in this movie doesn't deeply touch you then you have no heart at all. This is a story of a man and what doing what he considered to be the right thing did to him.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
Enjoy!


http://theconservativetreehouse.com...ord-breaking-box-office-smash-hit/#more-95405

Every Seat, Every Show, Every Theater: SOLD OUT – American Sniper – Record Breaking Box Office Smash Hit

Posted on January 18, 2015 by sundance

Americans love God, are patriotic, love the military, and have been under increasing leftist assault for almost 6 years. This is why Clint Eastwood’s patriotic movie about U.S. hero sniper Chris Kyle has hit at exactly the right time for aconfluence of success.

The Box Office Records are being obliterated so fast the predictions of the Hollywood types are having to be revised upward by the hour - and the progressive Left is apoplectic in rage.
They.Just.Can’t.Stand.It !!

Leftist movie types like Michael Moore, and those of similar disposition who hate America, are having meltdowns at the success of American Sniper. They are so wound up with hate, they just don’t know what to do.

And this one carries a double-whammy that only divinely ironic intervention could deliver.

This is MLK holiday weekend, and the MLK movie “Selma” is also playing in theaters, in empty theaters. The professional left in Hollywood produced Selma to further their political narrative, and they are failing miserably.

The extra day off work is only going to further aid the U.S. Patriotic Movie “American Sniper’s” success. Some predictions now have a box office ticket sale result over $150,000,000.00 anticipated.
 

RB Martin

Veteran Member
Kinda ironic that on MLK's holiday weekend a movie about him tanks while a movie named "Sniper" is packed!
 

KauKau

Contributing Member
im so going to step on my own penis here, but its just a simple question. Im an honorably discharged vet by the way, does it not bother anybody we are killing people in an illegal war, then glorifying it, then making money on it, then feeling sorry for a guy that killed a few people illegally? You guys want freedom,... strong arming the rest of the world for resources, staging false flag attacks, then propagandizing the whole resource grab as freedom fighting, yet we have no freedoms, that is not what i signed up for. stop supporting this bullshit, thats how i feel... carry on
 

Maryh

Veteran Member
Saw it today with my daughter who did two tours. She was there second time when the wall went up. Some of the show was not real as she said the had two apaches up and a drone with hell fire missiles that would have gotten the guys on the ground as they ran to the bldg. Apart from the technical stuff, it was a heart breaker all the way around. I gave my daughter a super hug afterwards. By the way, it was her headquarters that called the seals to get the sniper.
 

Mongo

Veteran Member
Saw it tonight
Packed
Enjoyed it
Would haveliked itto be a bit more technically correct (the urban oerations idividual techniques were bad and SEALs know how)
Clint is gonna make a ton of money
 

ncmissouri

Veteran Member
I'd give it two thumbs up. One for the true story behind it and two for the directing and acting. I felt as if I were there, almost.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Brandon Webb had some tech issues with the film as well but he thought it was a good look at what happens.

(Brandon taught Chris as a sniper IIRC)
 

KauKau

Contributing Member
Im in a mood, but nobody wants to play;)

how can we celebrate killing innocent people through a lens of a sniper. Can anybody tell me why we where in Iraq? the last i checked the constitution highly suggests we declare actual war on an attacking country, before we go in and blow shit up. Did Iraq attack us when i was high or something? Dont answer that if you have been to El Cajon, SD lately, hahahahahaha.

my hang up is how we can hoorah through a completely illegal act. If iraq came over here and started lighting my family up i would fire back. They would be here illegally, and i have the right to defend myself. same with the iraqis, they where simply defending themselves. so how do we justify our soldiers dieing and killing others for a simple resource war?

we preach the good word, blah blah blah, yet this country never backs it up, nor the people who live here. the box numbers prove it. we send our kids to fight for the machine, we support propaganda with our pocket books and hearts, when is enuff enuff. Makes my heart ache seeing this war culture full tilt boogey and moving forward with such veracity. General Butler warned all of you to stop sending your kids to die for the corporation of america. nobody seems to listen or care.
 

KauKau

Contributing Member
yep, pretty much. i kinda figured it was nobody could answer why we where there? it wanst 911, so why are we killing ourselves over there? no skin off my back, i wont send my kid to die for the corporations. but the hypocrisy will eventually catch up to this country, oh well.
 

shoddy61

Inactive
KauKau,'
Pick it up, YOU VOTED for why we were there, yea got that, VIET frickin NAM, meet me we will talk! Your LBJ ticket sent us into country! What an A$$hole out of thousands died for your rights! No skin, in da GAME, are in front of your stupid ass!!!! They died in my/our arms, chicken'shit LIBERETARD.
I'm here. wanna talk? Any where3, anytime, for your RIGHT's.
sonny
 

windsail

"Montani Semper Liberi"
Very..very good message came through in telling the story of the life of Chris Kyle..his family...his allegiance to our flag and meaning and power of "the brother hood" .. in his life and in the lives of ALL who take and keep the oath...all are warriors..none less..none more....That's why the film is so successful...We..as Americans.. respond in our hearts..minds..and souls to telling the story of lives like Chris Kyles...Good stuff..and good for our nation......windsail....

I could point out a few technical errors but they mean nothing in the context of the story......
 

Sandcastle76

Senior Member
I apologize, my response was snarky. I dont comment much here but read and learn a lot. I believe that congress voted and approved the actions taken over there. I can not cite you the specifics but then again I am just a stupid mom who sent her son over there to be a moving target. You say you're a veteran and I believe you...but riddle me this please sir...could you have been talked out of serving your country. My son went over there to protect his country, family and friends and he was 18 years young...just old enough to vote and to fight - but not drink?? (that stills boggles my mind)

No one on this board has celerated killing as you blythely opine - we also haven't seen one drop of oil/resources from them, but we did cause the price to go down when we started private drilling over here. So this was no war of resource accumulation.

You also go and drag in religion....why? We are not hypocrites...I did not "send" my child off to dodge camel dung for "corporate america" .. he was "of age" and made his own decisions. Did I support him - you damn tooting I did. Am I proud of him - HELL YEAH. America has made mistakes and done wrong, no argueument there, but we also have done a lot of things "right" and good.

The success of this movie was because we want to believe and have the "good things" affirmed. This movie is about a guy...what he did, why he did it and how it affected him, his unit and his family. He was really good at his job and he protected a lot people alot of times...pretty simple, no need to dive in the deep end of the pool. People are curious and this movie is supposed to be realistic- we can now better appreciate what service men and veterans have/do go through on our behalf.

Also dont refer to dangling male appendages and reference "playing" if you want to be taken seriously. Good night and God bless all our active duty personnel and all our veterans.
 

shinerbock

Innocent Bystander
im so going to step on my own penis here, but its just a simple question. Im an honorably discharged vet by the way, does it not bother anybody we are killing people in an illegal war, then glorifying it, then making money on it, then feeling sorry for a guy that killed a few people illegally? You guys want freedom,... strong arming the rest of the world for resources, staging false flag attacks, then propagandizing the whole resource grab as freedom fighting, yet we have no freedoms, that is not what i signed up for. stop supporting this bullshit, thats how i feel... carry on

You have a First Amendment right to your opinion and I thank you for your service. Perhaps the issue would be better discussed in a more respectful tone and without the aid of intoxicants or whatever.
 

KauKau

Contributing Member
sorry you felt i wasnt polite. i posed a simple question. i directed no ill will towards anybody, i reread my post and its not a hoorah go amerika stance, sure. but i didnt call anybody out what so ever. We where lied to by congress and other so called leaders about this war. It was admitted the war was a resource grab, its all written fact. if you care to pull the curtains back for just a glimpse, you may see the hypocrisy. General butler, the most decorated soldier of our time, said we are fighting the wrong fight. Why anybody who stands up and asks,is this the right thing?, and what are we trying to accomplish?. we havent accomplished anything but death. so why all the hurt feelings? besides, I have more sweat into this country than most. so if you want snark i can bring it, i promise. but i have been nothing but polite and inquisitive.

so i get the snark my way, full of name calling and other sophomoric bullshit, for asking a simple question and pointing no fingers, what a place this usof a has become. speak a little truth and get the smack down. I am always in complete control of all my senses. I dont drink, i dont smoke, i use no over the counter drugs. I have to take armour due to thyroid cancer and i take a few vitamins. so where do you get off telling me to get sober, coming from a dude with a beer avatar no less, oh the irony.
 

KauKau

Contributing Member
@ shoddy No buddy, i didnt vote for this shit. See, mr smarty pants. i figured out around high school that the bankers have been playing little games. THey have dudes like you all twisted up running around calling people names. You have never met me bro, you have no idea who i am. i dont believe in left right, up down, black white, or purple. Its all red to me, see ive had my hands in thousands of bloody chests and such, i got to pick my buddie's kids brain off the ground, and when you are in the middle of those things, you realize its all blood and guts, and thats all. ALLL the other stuff, all that baggage you tried to sling on me, thats coming from the propaganda. but unfortunately the agent orange has dimmed your thought process and is not allowing you to see the truth. thats ok, because the truth will never go away.

I was a 91B in the Army, I was a volunteer fireman, usar and wildland firefighter, VOLUNTEER. i also got paid, to fight fire and work as a medic. I fell ill from a patient, an american that i was serving. I had a heart attack because of virus during a working fire, while serving a fellow american. I saved many american lives when i was a life guard. i also saved a lot of americans when i was a ski patroller. every god dam job i have ever done had been serving the people of this country. so yeah ill talk. and f off with your libtard, ill out right wing your ass any day.

you ever wonder about gulf of tonkin or the fact your country fought tooth and nail NOT to help you and your friends that are dealing with monsanto. did you ever wonder how LBJ and his friends ended up with thousands of hectares of land in the very land you bleed in? You ever wonder why the rothchilds had so many investments in that hell hole,, go read and realize you fought a resource war. i figured it out and got the f out. Not one person died for my rights in vietnam, be pissed at that, not me. The only rights you won was the security of a drug trade. that war set up all the cia drug running into south america. its al in the history books man, just read, it does wonders
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Sandcastle, you are looking for the Authorization to Use Military Force passed by both houses in 03.

Usually written about as "AUMF Legislation".
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
I think figures like Chris Kyle and Marcus Latrell represent the honor of the people that we personally know who served in Afghanistan and Iraq. I think it isn't hypocritical to celebrate the fact that they did their best under horrible circumstances.

I distinguish them from the elites who sent them with strategies I now believe were intended to accomplish nothing. What conspiracy it enabled, I don't know, but I don't blame the honorable who are caught up in it. I had several students sign up after 9/11. I was and continue to be proud of them. I am not proud of the leadership that was given to them. God's justice will show itself in that regard. Breath- taking wrong is corrected in breath- taking ways.

I also think Clint Eastwood represents a form of filmmaking that celebrates honor without whitewashing tough things. I think his appearance at the Republican Convention in 2012 reflected that inclination of his. The chair represents the Presidency, a position of honor, which is now empty.

KauKau- Thank you for your service. I hope the hurt heals soon.
 

workerbee

* Winter is Coming *
Hey..can we please keep on topic here?
This is about the movie.

Start another thread if y'all want to engage in pissing contests.
 

Woolly

Veteran Member
im so going to step on my own penis here, but its just a simple question. Im an honorably discharged vet by the way, does it not bother anybody we are killing people in an illegal war, then glorifying it, then making money on it, then feeling sorry for a guy that killed a few people illegally? You guys want freedom,... strong arming the rest of the world for resources, staging false flag attacks, then propagandizing the whole resource grab as freedom fighting, yet we have no freedoms, that is not what i signed up for. stop supporting this bullshit, thats how i feel... carry on

KauKau, your premises are faulty. What "illegal" war were you referring to? Facts, not the propaganda of the Left, are the proper foundation upon which to construct a comment. Your comment appears to have been built upon quicksand.

Our attacks on both Afghanistan and Iraq were both authorized by the Congress as provided for in the U.S. Constitution. Do I think that the attack on Iraq was wise? No!, and said so at the time. But, I don't get to make national policy, but as a American in good standing I must follow it.

For the record, I too am an honorably discharged vet.

Do I live in a perfect world? No!, and neither do you! Suck is up, Jack, and lets get on with it without inflicting guilt trips on the troops, or your fellow citizens. Take you disagreements on national policy to the political process, and the ballot box. You will, soon enough, need to pick up the cartridge box. But, that is a story for another time.

Woolly
 

workerbee

* Winter is Coming *
KauKau, your premises are faulty. What "illegal" war were you referring to? Facts, not the propaganda of the Left, are the proper foundation upon which to construct a comment. Your comment appears to have been built upon quicksand.

Our attacks on both Afghanistan and Iraq were both authorized by the Congress as provided for in the U.S. Constitution. Do I think that the attack on Iraq was wise? No!, and said so at the time. But, I don't get to make national policy, but as a American in good standing I must follow it.

For the record, I too am an honorably discharged vet.

Do I live in a perfect world? No!, and neither do you! Suck is up, Jack, and lets get on with it without inflicting guilt trips on the troops, or your fellow citizens. Take you disagreements on national policy to the political process, and the ballot box. You will, soon enough, need to pick up the cartridge box. But, that is a story for another time.

Woolly

Woolly,
I have respect for you as a longtime member and frequent poster but please refer to my above post.

I would like this thread back on topic.
or I'll have it closed.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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KauKau, I don't doubt that you have sincerely held opinions on this matter, but you are coming across as having a chip on your shoulder.
In the interests of keeping this thread on track for those who want to discuss the movie, please start your own thread if you wish to discuss politics.

Any further attempts to derail the thread will not be tolerated.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
The movie was great. The total silence at the end of the movie makes me think it reached a lot of the people in the theater. Pictures and video of Chief Kyles actual funeral, the people lining the expressway to view the procession, the people ranging from young kids, to most of the SEAL community that wasn't deployed, to retired vets acting as an honor guard, all left an impression on the audience.

The book goes into a lot more technical detail with pages and pages on weapons and techniques which the movie skipped because of the target audience, but those details just wouldn't have fit into the movie. The movie covered a lot of the things that happened to Kyle while deployed, but it also covered the conflict military service and war creates with the family back home. It spends a lot of time exploring the sense of alienation deployed military have when they come back home.

One particularly poignant scene was when a former Marine comes up to Chief Kyle at a car repair shop and thanks him for saving his life. Kyle carried the wounded Marine to safety after he was shot. The Marine also thanked Kyles young son for lending him his daddy so he could save his life and allow him be there for his little daughter.
The movie shows the growing alienation that happens between husband and wife as the back to back deployments pile up. Each time Kyle comes home his detachment and isolation becomes greater and greater.

After 15 years, this war is unlike any one we have ever fought. The toll on the military and their families is unlike any past conflicts. The movie and the book go far in bringing this to the public.
The book in pdf format is available all over the internet. Just google American Sniper pdf

It does seem that liberal Hollywood got taken by surprise with the popularity of the movie.
Only late this weekend did the whining and complaining about the "evil violent killing" start. All this happened after Sharpton and Ophra went ballistic because Selma was being ignored, on MLK weekend no less :lol:. Expect a full court press this week by all the libs to discredit American Sniper and push for Selma.
 
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coalcracker

Veteran Member
Excellent movie (as expected). Silence at the end here was remarkable as well. Having known the story prior to seeing it on film, I figured Clint would handle it well, and he surely did. I complained bitterly on the earlier thread about the movie "Unbroken" because Jolie had a great story to work with and she failed miserably trying to tell it on film. Sniper, on the other hand, is going to set all-time records, and rightly so,

Pay the money to see it. Go early to get your seat.
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
It must be good, cause that gobshite Michael Moore is bitching about it, and calling snipers cowards :lol: big talk for a lard arse
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Having read the story line above, I doubt I'll go see it. I don't do war movies well. As for what Kau Kau is saying, I totally understand. I've bitched about our system for a long time. But just remember something: as bad our system might be, a lot more people get to live and prosper under it than they do under machines such as Islam and Communism. Which is the point, I think. Because Islam and Communism want to kill you and everything you stand for.

:ld:
 
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