ENER Advanced Electricity Meter Installation - Hawaii

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Sounds like a threat to me.

We were notified Advanced Electric Meters were being offered for installation by the local electric utility company to the public. There is an Opt Out option. See below.* A reason for opting out is also requested as part of the Opt Out. Not wanting some technocrat being able to switch off power to our home for whatever reason? That sounds good to me. I could imagine Honolulu switching off power to all GOP voters easy.

Advanced Meter Installation Opt-Out Form*​

By opting out, I understand that I will not be receiving the future benefits of an advanced meter, which may include dynamic pricing, detailed energy use data, customized billing dates and outage alerts. I understand that in the future, Hawaiian Electric could seek regulatory approval to recover costs and impacts caused by those customers who decide not to receive an advanced meter. Any cost recovery would require the approval of the Public Utilities Commission and customers would be notified before a charge would take effect.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
"Dynamic pricing" is pricing at the Grid current price. I.e. at any moment the grid price "varies" depending upon what type/cost of generation is currently operating. By rules, the dynamic price is the weighted average of ALL the generation currently generating.

Dynamic pricing SHOULD be about the best price you can get. That is EXCEPT for the "mark-ups" that your utility adds to be sure they make a profit. How much the mark-up governed by your Public Utility Commission.

Should you opt out - then your pricing is a time-weighted-average of all the generation which was used - PLUS its own separate mark-up. It may be the same mark-up or it may be different. Possibly less, probably more.

The opt-out is probably where you have been to this point. If you're satisfied with what you have had, then opting out should bring no surprise. That is - until the PUC "monkeys" with the mark-up to try to encourage users to switch to the dynamic pricing. Expect that to happen at the next PUC rate-case, typically occurring at three year intervals.

The dynamic pricing and overhead will probably be made "attractive" in the short term. Meanwhile, they buy themselves "additional flexibility" to cut you off when load exceeds generation - a condition going forward more likely to occur than not.

I know what Owner would do. After all I live with him and he explains to me all the nuance of frugality. He would opt on the lesser cost dynamic model, take advantage of the apparent "lower" rates, but use the savings to buy a generator all set to go for when the power actually does shut down. The generator gives you the license to take advantage of the possibly inconvenient but lower rates.

So going dynamic/generator, you ultimately pay what you would under the older rate structure, but you buy yourself "independence" and a generator in the exchange.

One thought...

Dobbin
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Sssarawolf the good news is Hawaii isn't the same climate you and most of the rest of the country has to deal with. As long as we have access to water and food we're good to go. Even if they turn off the water at the taps, enough falls from the sky periodically that, that's still not much of a problem either. Hawaii isn't self sufficient in food production but could be. That would take Honolulu getting out of the way and probably the US military giving some farmland back for food production or using it to grow food the troops and their dependents.

If "asked" There're are many experienced local gardeners and growers that would be willing and able to help and teach. A good percentage of them exmilitary. Local is important because someone who's grown hundred or thousands of acers of soybeans, corn and winter wheat on the mainland will have a huge learning curve adapting to the demands of local soil, weather and climate conditions.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Time to go solar and get off the grid!! If the creek behind our cabin was year round I'd go hydro....darn the bad luck! Trying to figure out how we can add solar with all the big cedars we have around our place here in the mountains.
 
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