TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Yeah, the more I read, that's what it looks like. Having multiple steps to the process lends a veneer of legitimacy.
ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread
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danielboon
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Phil Stewart
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(Reuters) - Hundreds of Russian troops in Ukraine were encircled in one of their main garrisons on Friday, on the verge of one of the worst defeats of the war, overshadowing President Vladimir Putin's celebration to proclaim his annexation of seized land.
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(Reuters) - Hundreds of Russian troops in Ukraine were encircled in one of their main garrisons on Friday, on the verge of one of the worst defeats of the war, overshadowing President Vladimir Putin's celebration to proclaim his annexation of seized land.
Notice that the article was published on September 13, 2022?
Well before the pipeline "leaks".
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Maybe so, but it was Medvedev's words.
danielboon
TB Fanatic
no one is calling trump the antichrist I was only responding to the question asked he being a former president never had any war when he was in charge and was offering a way out what is wrong with that?
We'll have to see what the totality of the evidence is over time.
onetimer
Veteran Member
The Norwegian Armed Forces confirms increased readiness, and that contingency measures have been taken, due to the war in Ukraine, Nord Stream sabotage and the drone/UAV sightings near oil and gas installations. No further details given.
View: https://twitter.com/The_Lookout_N/status/1575831927369609217?s=20&t=87D7yYDNaSQ45MoI3jjUYQ
View: https://twitter.com/The_Lookout_N/status/1575831927369609217?s=20&t=87D7yYDNaSQ45MoI3jjUYQ
danielboon
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Phil Stewart
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PUTIN: UNITED STATES USED NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN JAPAN TWICE, CREATED PRECEDENT
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PUTIN: UNITED STATES USED NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN JAPAN TWICE, CREATED PRECEDENT
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
And yet, Ukraine is still considered a sovereign state and Russia has manufactured the latest carving-table butchery there. As such, it's still wrong what they're doing, regardless of what is being done to us here.
I've said it before and I will say it again: Just because our government is doing us wrong does not mean that the moves of Russia are right, merely because the moves are at odds with our troublemakers. People gravitate to this black/white reasoning as a part of human nature, and smart enemies take advantage of this tendency. As much as I'd rather have Russia as a friend and not an enemy, right now we're in conflict. Russia is a smart enemy.
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DuckandCover
Proud Sheeple
Could this also be a translation issue? Strategic vs Tactical difference may be lost in the translation? I dunno..... I know 'nyet' about the Russian language.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Sorry--since it was related to the earlier "peace and safety" post--and because I knew there are those here who are sure Trump "is" the AC, I thought that was where you were coming from.no one is calling trump the antichrist I was only responding to the question asked he being a former president never had any war when he was in charge and was offering a way out what is wrong with that?
As far as what Trump would have done, I totally agree with you. We would not be in this mess if a real man with a strong will and plain common sense was at the helm of the country that 'claims' to lead the world.
Our country's current 'rulers' are 'leading the world' straight over the cliff............
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
onetimer
Veteran Member
Not a good sign
@Felix_Nuno picked up that Territorial Defense Forces are being stood up in St-Petersburg. Either the mobilization is going so poorly that they're working on extra ways to throw people into Ukraine, or they're expecting this conflict to widen. twlink
St. Petersburg deputy military commissar: A and B class reservists being called up for mobilization but *territorial defence units being formed* too and will be manned with B and even C class reservists.
View: https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1575804278127480832?s=20&t=Ut-BS-g9uHSNgUYKp3XveQ
@Felix_Nuno picked up that Territorial Defense Forces are being stood up in St-Petersburg. Either the mobilization is going so poorly that they're working on extra ways to throw people into Ukraine, or they're expecting this conflict to widen. twlink
St. Petersburg deputy military commissar: A and B class reservists being called up for mobilization but *territorial defence units being formed* too and will be manned with B and even C class reservists.
View: https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1575804278127480832?s=20&t=Ut-BS-g9uHSNgUYKp3XveQ
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
I concede it may be possible. Given the extreme differences between the two, and delicacy of the situation, I have a difficult time accepting such a loose statement. Medvedev is not Joe Biden.
based on Biden's past performance, the position of his foot on the accelerator, and the distance to the cliff . . .
he will likely be successful
(there are no safety barriers or curbs to guide him. it is a straight shot with no obstacles)
jward
passin' thru
HMM.
Indo-Pacific News - Geo-Politics & Military News
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The ”Sanctions Against the USA” #SanktionengegendieUSA hashtag is trending in #Germany & in Twitter in general in relation to the #NordStreamSabotage
View: https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status/1575839219682971648?s=20&t=LEoEnpJO4ZHuQjYq4m0bVg
Indo-Pacific News - Geo-Politics & Military News
@IndoPac_Info
The ”Sanctions Against the USA” #SanktionengegendieUSA hashtag is trending in #Germany & in Twitter in general in relation to the #NordStreamSabotage
View: https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status/1575839219682971648?s=20&t=LEoEnpJO4ZHuQjYq4m0bVg
jward
passin' thru
Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2
Former German Intelligence Chief Gerhard Schindler says that Russia carried out sabotage on Nord Stream
By claiming the pipelines themselves are defective, Russia can have a firmer pretext to block gas shipments than replaceable parts, such as turbines
7:50 AM · Sep 30, 2022
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@SamRamani2
Former German Intelligence Chief Gerhard Schindler says that Russia carried out sabotage on Nord Stream
By claiming the pipelines themselves are defective, Russia can have a firmer pretext to block gas shipments than replaceable parts, such as turbines
7:50 AM · Sep 30, 2022
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Are the Territoial Defence Units different than the "volunteer" units each region in Russia is supposed to be standing up and sending to the Ukraine?
wait-n-see
Veteran Member
It would sure help explain the sudden Afghanistan pullout.
Our fearless leader and uni-party had to prepare for the conclusion of their planned "Ukraine - Russia" operation, initiated in Obama's glorious reign.
I thought they wanted the downfall of Russia, did not realize it could also be the downfall of Europe they desired.
FLASH
@Flash_news_ua
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️The USA is going to introduce sanctions against Russia today for the annexation of Ukrainian territories, – NBC reports with reference to the White House.
Because they have already worked so well.
jward
passin' thru
US Senate approves $12 billion in new aid for Ukraine - Insider Paper
AFP
2 minutes
The US Senate approved $12 billion in new economic and military aid for Ukraine Thursday as part of a stopgap extension of the federal budget into December.
The measure, agreed by senators of both parties, includes $3 billion for arms, supplies and salaries for Ukraine’s military, and authorizes President Joe Biden to direct the US Defense Department to take $3.7 billion worth of its own weapons and materiel to provide Ukraine.
It also provides $4.5 billion for Kyiv to keep the country’s finances stable and keep the government running, providing services to the Ukrainian people.
It comes as Russian President Vladimir Putin plans to declare the annexation of parts of Ukraine occupied by Russian troops on Friday.
“Seven months since the conflict began, it’s crystal clear that American assistance has gone a long way to helping the Ukrainian people resist Putin’s evil, vicious aggression,” said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.
“But the fight is far from over, and we must, we must, continue helping the brave, valiant Ukrainian people.”
The Ukraine aid is part of a short-term extension of the federal budget, which is to expire at the end of the fiscal year on September 30 without the parties in Congress having agreed to a full-year allocation for fiscal 2022-23.
The extension, or continuing resolution, will keep the government running into December, but it has to first be approved by the House of Representatives to avoid shutting down parts of the government on Monday.
insiderpaper.com
AFP
2 minutes
The US Senate approved $12 billion in new economic and military aid for Ukraine Thursday as part of a stopgap extension of the federal budget into December.
The measure, agreed by senators of both parties, includes $3 billion for arms, supplies and salaries for Ukraine’s military, and authorizes President Joe Biden to direct the US Defense Department to take $3.7 billion worth of its own weapons and materiel to provide Ukraine.
It also provides $4.5 billion for Kyiv to keep the country’s finances stable and keep the government running, providing services to the Ukrainian people.
It comes as Russian President Vladimir Putin plans to declare the annexation of parts of Ukraine occupied by Russian troops on Friday.
“Seven months since the conflict began, it’s crystal clear that American assistance has gone a long way to helping the Ukrainian people resist Putin’s evil, vicious aggression,” said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.
“But the fight is far from over, and we must, we must, continue helping the brave, valiant Ukrainian people.”
The Ukraine aid is part of a short-term extension of the federal budget, which is to expire at the end of the fiscal year on September 30 without the parties in Congress having agreed to a full-year allocation for fiscal 2022-23.
The extension, or continuing resolution, will keep the government running into December, but it has to first be approved by the House of Representatives to avoid shutting down parts of the government on Monday.
US Senate approves $12 billion in new aid for Ukraine
The US Senate approved $12 billion in new economic and military aid for Ukraine Thursday as part of a stopgap extension of the federal budget into
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jward
passin' thru
Prefer toothless sanctions to othr options.
you gotta be kidding !! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
jward
passin' thru
Putin accuses West of blowing up pipelines as Europe steps up vigilance
4 minute read
September 30, 2022
8:39 AM CDT
Last Updated 24 min ago
Russian President Vladimir Putin attends a ceremony to declare the annexation of the Russian-controlled territories of four Ukraine's Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, after holding what Russian authorities called referendums in the occupied areas of Ukraine that were condemned by Kyiv and governments worldwide, in the Georgievsky Hall of the Great Kremlin Palace in Moscow, Russia, September 30, 2022. Sputnik/Dmitry Astakhov/Pool via REUTERS
Summary
Companies
Putin blames West for wrecking Nord Stream
EU still investigating cause of pipeline leaks this week
Europe scrambles to secure other energy infrastructure
Italy strengthens surveillance on gas pipelines
Infrastructure attacks threaten regional conflict: analyst
TBILISI/LONDON, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday blamed the United States and its allies for blowing up the undersea Nord Stream pipelines, raising the temperature in a crisis that has left Europe racing to secure its energy infrastructure and supplies.
In a speech to mark the annexation of four Ukrainian regions invaded by Russian forces, Putin offered no evidence for the claim. Russia has previously said the United States would profit from attacks on Europe's energy infrastructure.
"The sanctions were not enough for the Anglo-Saxons: they moved onto sabotage," Putin said. "It is hard to believe but it is a fact that they organised the blasts on the Nord Stream international gas pipelines."
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"They began to destroy the pan-European energy infrastructure," Putin said. "It is clear to everyone who benefits from this. Of course, he who benefits did it."
Putin's accusation is likely to be strongly resisted by European countries. The United States, which has said it was too early to confirm it was sabotage, has dismissed talk it was responsible.
Latest Updates
Ukraine tells Russia to appeal to Kyiv if it wants encircled troops freed
Putin proclaims annexation as Russian garrison surrounded in Ukraine
Shocked by gas bills, thrifty Dutch stockpile coal, wood for winter
Putin signs documents to annex Ukrainian regions
European Union states, once heavily reliant on Russia and now trying to find alternative gas supplies, say they believe leaks were caused by sabotage, but have stopped short of naming anyone. They are racing to secure other energy infrastructure.
The Nord Stream pipelines, which were not pumping gas to Europe when the leaks were found but had gas in them, have been flashpoints in an energy standoff between the West and Russia since its invasion of Ukraine, fuelling a cost-of-living crisis.
The European Union is still investigating how Russia's Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines burst this week, draining gas into the Baltic Sea off the coast of Denmark and Sweden. Seismologists registered explosions in the area.
Gas will continue to pour out of Nord Stream 1 until Sunday, the Danish energy agency said on Friday, though the leak on Nord Stream 2 is expected to cease on Saturday. read more
European leaders and Moscow say they can not rule out sabotage. Map of Nord Stream pipelines and locations of reported leaks
WIDER CONFLICT
The pipeline incident has prompted European countries to step up vigilance over other critical infrastructure, which looks suddenly much more vulnerable.
Italy, which was an early starter in weaning off Russian supplies, has strengthened naval surveillance and controls on pipelines bringing gas to Italy from the south and east, senior officials told Reuters. read more
That includes the TransMed pipeline, which connects Algeria to Sicily, the Trans Adriatic Pipeline (TAP) running from Azerbaijan to Apulia, and the GreenStream connection between Libya and Sicily.
Rome also raised its alert on the Trans Austria Gas (TAG) pipeline that brings fuel from the Nordics to the north-east of Italy.
Poland's electricity grid operator on Friday meanwhile announced checks on an undersea cable carrying power from Sweden that crosses the damaged Nord Stream pipelines.
There is also heightened focus on the Baltic Pipe, a project that was unveiled this week. A rival to the Nord Stream network, the Baltic Pipe will transport gas to the Danish and Polish markets and end-users in neighbouring countries from Oct. 1.
"The risk to near-term gas flows has risen sharply on fears that further sabotage could occur on critical gas import pipelines," said a note from Fitch Solutions, citing the Baltic Pipeline.
"The possibility of additional acts of sabotage on critical infrastructure is a growing risk that would raise the risk of tipping the war into a wider regional conflict."
Norway, a major Russian rival on gas supplies, will deploy its military to protect oil and gas installations against possible sabotage after warnings of unidentified drone sightings in September.
Germany's energy regulator called in a Reuters interview for more protection for critical energy infrastructure. read more
With no gas flowing through Nord Stream for the foreseeable future, European countries are racing to secure more energy supplies and trying to cushion households from an explosion in prices since last year.
European Union countries on Friday agreed to impose emergency levies on energy firms' windfall profits and began more fraught talks on imposing a bloc-wide gas price cap. read more
Germany on Thursday unveiled a 200 billion euro relief package for companies and citizens, in what Chancellor Olaf Scholz's government characterised as a forceful response to what it called Russia's "energy war" against Europe.
In the Netherlands, citizens have started stockpiling wood and coal to save on rocketing gas bills. read more
Poland and the Czech Republic have asked the European Commission to revive a stalled gas pipeline project connecting the two countries. read more
The gas network operators of Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia have also proposed shipping additional natural gas supply pledged by Azerbaijan to Europe. read more
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Reporting by Reuters bureaux; Writing by Matthias Williams; Editing by Jan Harvey
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www.reuters.com
4 minute read
September 30, 2022
8:39 AM CDT
Last Updated 24 min ago
Russian President Vladimir Putin attends a ceremony to declare the annexation of the Russian-controlled territories of four Ukraine's Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, after holding what Russian authorities called referendums in the occupied areas of Ukraine that were condemned by Kyiv and governments worldwide, in the Georgievsky Hall of the Great Kremlin Palace in Moscow, Russia, September 30, 2022. Sputnik/Dmitry Astakhov/Pool via REUTERS
Summary
Companies
Putin blames West for wrecking Nord Stream
EU still investigating cause of pipeline leaks this week
Europe scrambles to secure other energy infrastructure
Italy strengthens surveillance on gas pipelines
Infrastructure attacks threaten regional conflict: analyst
TBILISI/LONDON, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday blamed the United States and its allies for blowing up the undersea Nord Stream pipelines, raising the temperature in a crisis that has left Europe racing to secure its energy infrastructure and supplies.
In a speech to mark the annexation of four Ukrainian regions invaded by Russian forces, Putin offered no evidence for the claim. Russia has previously said the United States would profit from attacks on Europe's energy infrastructure.
"The sanctions were not enough for the Anglo-Saxons: they moved onto sabotage," Putin said. "It is hard to believe but it is a fact that they organised the blasts on the Nord Stream international gas pipelines."
Register now for FREE unlimited access to Reuters.com
"They began to destroy the pan-European energy infrastructure," Putin said. "It is clear to everyone who benefits from this. Of course, he who benefits did it."
Putin's accusation is likely to be strongly resisted by European countries. The United States, which has said it was too early to confirm it was sabotage, has dismissed talk it was responsible.
Latest Updates
Ukraine tells Russia to appeal to Kyiv if it wants encircled troops freed
Putin proclaims annexation as Russian garrison surrounded in Ukraine
Shocked by gas bills, thrifty Dutch stockpile coal, wood for winter
Putin signs documents to annex Ukrainian regions
European Union states, once heavily reliant on Russia and now trying to find alternative gas supplies, say they believe leaks were caused by sabotage, but have stopped short of naming anyone. They are racing to secure other energy infrastructure.
The Nord Stream pipelines, which were not pumping gas to Europe when the leaks were found but had gas in them, have been flashpoints in an energy standoff between the West and Russia since its invasion of Ukraine, fuelling a cost-of-living crisis.
The European Union is still investigating how Russia's Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines burst this week, draining gas into the Baltic Sea off the coast of Denmark and Sweden. Seismologists registered explosions in the area.
Gas will continue to pour out of Nord Stream 1 until Sunday, the Danish energy agency said on Friday, though the leak on Nord Stream 2 is expected to cease on Saturday. read more
European leaders and Moscow say they can not rule out sabotage. Map of Nord Stream pipelines and locations of reported leaks
WIDER CONFLICT
The pipeline incident has prompted European countries to step up vigilance over other critical infrastructure, which looks suddenly much more vulnerable.
Italy, which was an early starter in weaning off Russian supplies, has strengthened naval surveillance and controls on pipelines bringing gas to Italy from the south and east, senior officials told Reuters. read more
That includes the TransMed pipeline, which connects Algeria to Sicily, the Trans Adriatic Pipeline (TAP) running from Azerbaijan to Apulia, and the GreenStream connection between Libya and Sicily.
Rome also raised its alert on the Trans Austria Gas (TAG) pipeline that brings fuel from the Nordics to the north-east of Italy.
Poland's electricity grid operator on Friday meanwhile announced checks on an undersea cable carrying power from Sweden that crosses the damaged Nord Stream pipelines.
There is also heightened focus on the Baltic Pipe, a project that was unveiled this week. A rival to the Nord Stream network, the Baltic Pipe will transport gas to the Danish and Polish markets and end-users in neighbouring countries from Oct. 1.
"The risk to near-term gas flows has risen sharply on fears that further sabotage could occur on critical gas import pipelines," said a note from Fitch Solutions, citing the Baltic Pipeline.
"The possibility of additional acts of sabotage on critical infrastructure is a growing risk that would raise the risk of tipping the war into a wider regional conflict."
Norway, a major Russian rival on gas supplies, will deploy its military to protect oil and gas installations against possible sabotage after warnings of unidentified drone sightings in September.
Germany's energy regulator called in a Reuters interview for more protection for critical energy infrastructure. read more
With no gas flowing through Nord Stream for the foreseeable future, European countries are racing to secure more energy supplies and trying to cushion households from an explosion in prices since last year.
European Union countries on Friday agreed to impose emergency levies on energy firms' windfall profits and began more fraught talks on imposing a bloc-wide gas price cap. read more
Germany on Thursday unveiled a 200 billion euro relief package for companies and citizens, in what Chancellor Olaf Scholz's government characterised as a forceful response to what it called Russia's "energy war" against Europe.
In the Netherlands, citizens have started stockpiling wood and coal to save on rocketing gas bills. read more
Poland and the Czech Republic have asked the European Commission to revive a stalled gas pipeline project connecting the two countries. read more
The gas network operators of Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia have also proposed shipping additional natural gas supply pledged by Azerbaijan to Europe. read more
Register now for FREE unlimited access to Reuters.com
Reporting by Reuters bureaux; Writing by Matthias Williams; Editing by Jan Harvey
Putin accuses West of blowing up pipelines as Europe steps up vigilance
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday blamed the United States and its allies for blowing up the undersea Nord Stream pipelines, raising the temperature in a crisis that has left Europe racing to secure its energy infrastructure and supplies.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Those Biden printing presses are going to overheat & explode soon....US Senate approves $12 billion in new aid for Ukraine - Insider Paper
AFP
2 minutes
The US Senate approved $12 billion in new economic and military aid for Ukraine Thursday as part of a stopgap extension of the federal budget into December.
The measure, agreed by senators of both parties, includes $3 billion for arms, supplies and salaries for Ukraine’s military, and authorizes President Joe Biden to direct the US Defense Department to take $3.7 billion worth of its own weapons and materiel to provide Ukraine.
It also provides $4.5 billion for Kyiv to keep the country’s finances stable and keep the government running, providing services to the Ukrainian people.
It comes as Russian President Vladimir Putin plans to declare the annexation of parts of Ukraine occupied by Russian troops on Friday.
“Seven months since the conflict began, it’s crystal clear that American assistance has gone a long way to helping the Ukrainian people resist Putin’s evil, vicious aggression,” said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.
“But the fight is far from over, and we must, we must, continue helping the brave, valiant Ukrainian people.”
The Ukraine aid is part of a short-term extension of the federal budget, which is to expire at the end of the fiscal year on September 30 without the parties in Congress having agreed to a full-year allocation for fiscal 2022-23.
The extension, or continuing resolution, will keep the government running into December, but it has to first be approved by the House of Representatives to avoid shutting down parts of the government on Monday.
US Senate approves $12 billion in new aid for Ukraine
The US Senate approved $12 billion in new economic and military aid for Ukraine Thursday as part of a stopgap extension of the federal budget into
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
Yeah, almost like it was a script written for Hollywood!
the same guy that pushed the warp speed vax as “his” that broke down normality around the world in just a year or two, and turned we don’t know how many into genetically modified organisms will now be the solution to our next problem. Okie dokie.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Is it time for
yet?
vector7
Dot Collector
UKRAINE FORMALLY SUBMITS APPLICATION FOR NATO MEMBERSHIP - ZELENSKIY'S TELEGRAM
View: https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1575850780296634369?t=BR7xJuEAhy3kKkabtbf8tA&s=19
View: https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1575850780296634369?t=BR7xJuEAhy3kKkabtbf8tA&s=19
greysage
On The Level
US Senate approves $12 billion in new aid for Ukraine - Insider Paper
AFP
2 minutes
The US Senate approved $12 billion in new economic and military aid for Ukraine Thursday as part of a stopgap extension of the federal budget into December.
The measure, agreed by senators of both parties, includes $3 billion for arms, supplies and salaries for Ukraine’s military, and authorizes President Joe Biden to direct the US Defense Department to take $3.7 billion worth of its own weapons and materiel to provide Ukraine.
It also provides $4.5 billion for Kyiv to keep the country’s finances stable and keep the government running, providing services to the Ukrainian people.
It comes as Russian President Vladimir Putin plans to declare the annexation of parts of Ukraine occupied by Russian troops on Friday.
“Seven months since the conflict began, it’s crystal clear that American assistance has gone a long way to helping the Ukrainian people resist Putin’s evil, vicious aggression,” said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.
“But the fight is far from over, and we must, we must, continue helping the brave, valiant Ukrainian people.”
The Ukraine aid is part of a short-term extension of the federal budget, which is to expire at the end of the fiscal year on September 30 without the parties in Congress having agreed to a full-year allocation for fiscal 2022-23.
The extension, or continuing resolution, will keep the government running into December, but it has to first be approved by the House of Representatives to avoid shutting down parts of the government on Monday.
US Senate approves $12 billion in new aid for Ukraine
The US Senate approved $12 billion in new economic and military aid for Ukraine Thursday as part of a stopgap extension of the federal budget into
This is a huge scam perpetrated by our occupied government and another nation.
Old news, and fake.WTH?
Fair Use Cited
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The shocking document: How the US planned the war and the energy crisis in Europe
THE LEAKED RAND DOCUMENT
In what appears to be an exceptional internal leak from the close-to-government think tank RAND Corporation, known among other things to have been behind American strategy for foreign and defense policy during the Cold War, a detailed account is given of how the energy crisis in Europe was planned by the United States.
The document, dated January, acknowledges that the aggressive foreign policy pursued in Ukraine will pressure Russia into having to intervene militarily in the country. The purpose, they explain, is to introduce a sanctions package that has been prepared for a long time.
The EU's economy, it states, "will inevitably collapse" as a result of this - and it rejoices, among other things, that resources up to 9000 billion dollars can flow to the United States, and that well-educated European youth will be forced to emigrate.
The main goal they describe is to divide Europe - especially Germany and Russia - and destroy the European economy by getting useful idiots in politics to stop Russian energy supplies to the continent.
PUBLISHED SEPTEMBER 13, 2022 - BY ISAAC BOMAN
As the first newspaper in Europe, Nya Dagbladet can publish what appears to be the USA's classified plans to crush the European economy with a war in Ukraine and an induced energy crisis. An English version of the article has been published here.
The RAND think tank , which has a total of 1850 employees with a budget of 350 million dollars, has the official purpose of "improving policy and decision-making through research and analysis". It is primarily connected to the Department of Defense in the United States and is notorious for having been influential in developing military and other strategy during the Cold War.
In a Document signed by RAND, under the opening heading "Weaken Germany, strengthen the USA", it is believed that there is an "urgent need" for an influx of resources from outside to maintain the American economy in general, but "in particular to the banking system".
" Only European countries bound by EU and NATO commitments can provide us with these without significant military and political costs ."
The biggest obstacle to this according to RAND is the growing independence of Germany. Among other things, it is pointed out that Brexit has given Germany greater independence and made it more difficult for the US to influence the decisions of European governments.
A key goal that pervades the cynical strategy is above all to destroy the cooperation between Germany and Russia, and also France.
" If it comes to fruition, it would make Europe not only an economic, but also a political competitor to the United States ," it declares.
Only way: "Drag both sides into war in Ukraine"
To crush this political threat, a strategic plan is presented which is primarily aimed at destroying the German economy.
" Stopping Russian supplies could create a systematic crisis that would be devastating for the German economy and indirectly for the entire EU ", they state, and believe that the key is to drag Europe's countries into war.
" The only possible way to ensure that Germany rejects Russian energy supplies is to draw both sides into the military conflict in Ukraine. Our continued actions in this country will inevitably lead to a military response from Russia. Russia is clearly not going to leave the massive Ukrainian army's pressure on the Donbass republics without a military response. It would make it possible to portray Russia as the aggressive party and then apply the entire already prepared package of sanctions ".
Green parties will make Germany "fall into the trap"
In particular, green parties in Europe are described as easy to manipulate to do the business of American imperialism.
" The prerequisite for Germany to fall into this trap is the leading role of green parties and ideologies in Europe. The German environmental movement is a strongly dogmatic, if not fanatical, movement, which makes it quite easy to get them to ignore economic arguments ," it writes, citing the current foreign minister of Germany, Annalena Baerbock, and the climate minister, Robert Habeck, as examples of this type of politician. .
" Personal characteristics and lack of professionalism make it possible to assume that it is impossible for them to admit their own mistakes in time. Thus, it will be enough to quickly shape a media image of Putin's aggressive war - and to make the Greens into ardent and tough supporters of sanctions - a "party of war". It will make it possible to impose the sanctions without any obstacles ".
Among other things, Baerbock has made a name for herself by declaring that she will maintain the stoppage of Russian gas even during the winter - regardless of what her constituents think about the matter and what the consequences are for the German population.
- We stay with Ukraine and that means that the sanctions will stay, also in winter - even if it will be very tough for politicians , she said at a conference in Prague recently.
"At best a total stop"
The authors express a hope that the damage between Germany and Russia will be so great that it will be impossible for the countries to re-establish normal relations later.
" A reduction in Russian energy supplies – at best a total stop – would lead to catastrophic consequences for German industry. The need to set aside significant amounts of Russian gas to keep homes and public buildings heated during the winter will further exacerbate the shortages. Shutdowns in industry will cause a shortage of components and spare parts for manufacturing, a collapse of logistics chains and sooner or later a domino effect ".
Ultimately, a complete collapse of Europe's economy is seen as both probable and desirable.
" Not only will this deliver a crushing blow to the German economy, the entire EU economy will inevitably collapse ."
They further point out the advantages of US-based companies having less competition on the world market, logistical advantages and the outflow of capital from Europe, it is estimated that it will be able to benefit the US economy by 7-9 trillion dollars. In addition, the important effect that many well-educated and young Europeans will be forced to emigrate to the USA is also emphasized.
RAND denies the origin of the report
On Wednesday, RAND issued a press release denying that the report originated with them. On the other hand, there is no response regarding how the report is false or what would not be true, but simply write that you see the content as "bizarre" and that the document is "false".
Chockerande dokumentet: Så planerade USA kriget och energikrisen i Europa
Som första tidning i Europa kan Nya Dagbladet publicera vad som förefaller vara USA:s hemligstämplade planer att krossa den europeiska ekonomin med ett krig i Ukraina och en framkallad energikris.nyadagbladet-se.translate.goog
Fake RAND Report on 'Weakening Germany'
A supposedly leaked RAND report about a bizarre U.S. conspiracy to “weaken Germany” is fake. Genuine RAND research, analysis, and commentary on the war in Ukraine may be found at rand.org.
www.rand.org
Could you share the " fake" for those of us who did not see it when it was "new" news please?Old news, and fake.
Fake RAND Report on 'Weakening Germany'
A supposedly leaked RAND report about a bizarre U.S. conspiracy to “weaken Germany” is fake. Genuine RAND research, analysis, and commentary on the war in Ukraine may be found at rand.org.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I suspect that the "fake news you refer to, is up thread, maybe on the last page before this one.