GOV/MIL Taiwan military fired warning shots at Chinese drone. Chinese author suggests XI is ready to go to war NOW

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Gordon G. Chang
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Hug the ones you love and pray #China does not start a war in the next few days. And by the way, this would be an excellent time for the #US military to move to DEFCON 2.


6:36 PM · Aug 30, 2022·Twitter for iPad
 

Sammy55

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And this does not go along well at all with the thread about the U.S. military being worried about being low on weapons and ammo. If China were to start something, would we be able to help Taiwan like we've agreed? Or is the weapon/ammo shortage going to be our "out," our excuse why we hung back and let China come in and take over Taiwan without much of a peep from the U.S.?

Me thinks that China knows we are handicapped right now and they are going to use that to start pushing for what they want.
 

LYKURGOS

No Surrender, No Defeat!
When the first kinetics starts in Asia it will snowball so fast it will stagger the mind.

I dare say Japan is pre-assembling special items as we speak. Japan knows China is bringing retribution. I’d expect a rapid population decrease on both sides within hours.

If you think there is a grudge between India and Pakistan. Multiply by 10 the hatred of China for Japan
 

jward

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Well we've known, and been covering the problem with our weapons for almost half a year now- but all the hot spots are starting to catch, it seems, and undoubtedly the fact that everyone is stretched thin is part of the calculus re: their timing.
 

Night Owl

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Y’all are counting on the youth of Taiwan to fight for their country if there is an invasion………I’d dont think they have the patriotism to do so. The country will concede quickly if the world doesn’t come to their rescue. I truly don’t think Taiwanese will fight like the Ukrainians Have been doing.
 

Doomer Doug

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Japan and China have a venemous hatred for the millions of Chinese mutdered by Japan during WW2 including the Nanking massacre, the 250, 000 Chinese executed for the Doolitle raid, plus mass executions.
 

Illini Warrior

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when the Chinese are ready to begin their aerial & naval barrage - they'll "arrange" an excuse incident to justify the beginning of the invasion ....

China - just like N Korea, Turkey, Vietnam, India and some of the South/Central American countries - have a "hand-me-down" military supply chain - nothing is ever too obsolete to be of use >>>> China has fleets of old MIGs and rookie pilots they would sacrifice initially to soak up the Taiwanese defenses - get a few of "training flight" rookies shot down flying toward Taiwan and they got a shooting war .....
 

Hfcomms

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Of course he's ready to go. China's entire housing market is about to blow away into a cloud of dust and ash.

As is the US dollar and the US housing market. When all else fails they take you to war. Gotta have a boogeyman to blame the collapse on. It certainly can't be the fault of the bankers or national leaders of course.
 

Doomer Doug

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Xi has tanks in front of banks to prevent riots. Hell yes he will go just like the arentine junta did with the falklands.
 

northern watch

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when the Chinese are ready to begin their aerial & naval barrage - they'll "arrange" an excuse incident to justify the beginning of the invasion ....

China - just like N Korea, Turkey, Vietnam, India and some of the South/Central American countries - have a "hand-me-down" military supply chain - nothing is ever too obsolete to be of use >>>> China has fleets of old MIGs and rookie pilots they would sacrifice initially to soak up the Taiwanese defenses - get a few of "training flight" rookies shot down flying toward Taiwan and they got a shooting war .....
Using up all the old stuff first, great idea!
 

jward

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Y’all are counting on the youth of Taiwan to fight for their country if there is an invasion………I’d dont think they have the patriotism to do so. The country will concede quickly if the world doesn’t come to their rescue. I truly don’t think Taiwanese will fight like the Ukrainians Have been doing.

I've shared the idea that China could certainly afford to wait, and win Taiwan the way the Commie-Red-Rat-Bastards took o'er the US...slowly, surely, and without firing a shot. In fact, I thought Biden left that loop hole, that we support whatever the Taiwanese choose for themselves, in a back door manner of being open to China's take over just as soon as an election or two (dominion style?) showed it was the duly expressed will of the people.
 

Blacknarwhal

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I've shared the idea that China could certainly afford to wait, and win Taiwan the way the Commie-Red-Rat-Bastards took o'er the US...slowly, surely, and without firing a shot. In fact, I thought Biden left that loop hole, that we support whatever the Taiwanese choose for themselves, in a back door manner of being open to China's take over just as soon as an election or two (dominion style?) showed it was the duly expressed will of the people.

They don't have that kind of time. Not any more.

If they'd started such a plan 30 years before they did, and it were like 1992 right now, then maybe. But the way things are, China's circling the drain every bit as hard as we are. Harder in some ways.

Which, I know, is preposterous to some. Plenty believe that the US is "Mystery Babylon". But just taking a look around suggests that, on the whole, we're not as bad as some think. At least, not yet, anyway.
 

JeanCat

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When the first kinetics starts in Asia it will snowball so fast it will stagger the mind.

I dare say Japan is pre-assembling special items as we speak. Japan knows China is bringing retribution. I’d expect a rapid population decrease on both sides within hours.

If you think there is a grudge between India and Pakistan. Multiply by 10 the hatred of China for Japan
I can believe it after reading “The Rape of Nanking”.
 

jward

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vector7

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Chang: This Signals The Beginning Of The Next Global War (6min)​

Sep 1, 2022
Gatestone Institute Senior Fellow Gordon Chang joined 'Fox & Friends First' to discuss concerns surrounding heightened tension between China and Taiwan and what signals the beginning of the next global war.
View: https://youtu.be/Sxq5b-UOuGU


Meanwhile...
China has been conducting military training in middle schools.

They're even doing training for nuclear warfare (with the US)...

Both videos are from their news
RT 30secs
View: https://twitter.com/DonnaWongHK/status/1565140995364179968?s=20&t=g4spDvpjmIBC_SW9I-wggQ
 

jward

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China revealing its plan for Taiwan invasion, island's foreign minister says | DW | 01.09.2022​


Deutsche Welle (www.dw.com)

7-9 minutes




In an exclusive interview with DW, Taiwanese Foreign Minister Joseph Wu said China's growing military aggression toward Taiwan reflects Beijing's future strategy to invade the democratic island.
As countries around the world grow increasingly concerned about the tension across the Taiwan Strait, Taiwan's Foreign Minister Joseph Wu has said China was revealing its strategies for a future invasion of Taiwan. He warned that Beijing's attempt to change the status quo across the Taiwan Strait could be "destabilizing, provocative and very dangerous."

"In the first part of August, China conducted missile tests, large-scale air and sea exercises, cyberattacks, disinformation campaigns, and economic coercion against Taiwan. If you put all these [moves together], it is part of their playbook for the future invasion of Taiwan," Wu said in an exclusive interview with DW.

"The situation is still very tense and China is trying to destroy the status quo or at least the symbol of the status quo, which is the median line of the Taiwan Strait. The status quo across the Taiwan Strait has been seen as the interest of all parties concerned in this area, or globally. When China is trying to destroy the status quo, it's not in the interest of us or the international community," he said.


A map of the Taiwan Strait, showing the island of Taiwan and the eastern coast of China



Since the controversial trip to Taiwan by US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in early August, China has escalated its military threats against the democratic island. It staged a seven-day military exercise surrounding Taiwan and repeatedly dispatched military aircraft as well as naval vessels to cross the median line of the Taiwan Strait, an unofficial demarcation between China and Taiwan that the former does not recognize.

Wu said China was trying to use Pelosi's visit as a pretext to justify its military threats against Taiwan, but said Taiwan wouldn't bow down to the increasing pressure from Beijing.

"What I would say is that Speaker Pelosi's visit to Taiwan is a morale boost for the Taiwanese people. Taiwan has been facing the threat from China all this time, but the Chinese military threat won't stop Taiwan from making more friends. It also will not stop international friends to come to Taiwan and show their support to us."


'China's authoritarian expansion won't stop with Taiwan'​


Since the war broke out in Ukraine in February, the international community has been drawing some parallels between the Russian invasion of Ukraine and a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

Wu said that despite coming under attack from Russia, Ukrainians had displayed tremendous bravery that inspired many Taiwanese people.

"[The bravery the Ukrainians have displayed] is inspirational to the Taiwanese people, because we understand that the Chinese can also do the same thing to Taiwan. By that time, we want to show to the international community that we are just about the same degree of bravery in fighting for our country and our democratic way of life," he told DW.

Wu added that since China imposed the National Security Law on Hong Kong more than two years ago, which has fundamentally transformed civil society in the former British colony, the international community has been talking about Taiwan as the next target of China's expansion. "Is Taiwan going to be the last target of the Chinese authoritarian expansion? I would say no," Wu said.

"China claims the East China Sea and they have been conducting military exercises or sending their ships to the disputed water. They have also claimed the South China Sea, and the daily patrol of the South China Sea either by their bombers or by their warships is so frequent these days. If we don't stop it, the Chinese government is going to sign more security agreements with more Pacific countries," he added.

In the face of heightened tension across the Taiwan Strait, Taiwan has announced a record increase in its defense budget for 2023, bringing the island's annual defense spending to $19.41 billion (around €19.35 billion), a 13.9% year-on-year increase. Wu said Taiwan's defense budget increase had been steady and the island was also closely working with partners like the United States to refine its defense strategies and enhance its defense capabilities.

"Other than increasing our military budget, we also conducted the reform of our military strategy. We are also discussing with the US about how we can best approach the strategy of asymmetric warfare," he told DW. "We also have the special budget that is used for items like missiles and jet planes, and the government is determined to increase our military budget."


Unwavering faith in US commitment to Taiwan​


At a time of increasing uncertainty in the region, many people wonder whether the US would come to Taiwan's defense if China ever launched a military invasion. In May, President Joe Biden said the US would intervene militarily if China ever attacked Taiwan. However, the public comments were swiftly walked back by the White House, which emphasized that Washington's official policies toward Taiwan had not changed.

While Biden's comments created confusion about Washington's stance on the issue of Taiwan, Wu said Taipei knows clearly that the responsibility of defending the island lies with the Taiwanese people and that the US is committed to ensuring Taiwan has the capabilities to protect itself through supplying weapons.

"We don't doubt the US commitment to Taiwan. It's been very clear. The defense of Taiwan is our own responsibility. If we are not committed to our own defense, we don't have the right to ask others to sacrifice," he explained.

Wu pointed to the recent example of two US naval vessels sailing through the Taiwan Strait as proof of Washington's support. "This is the way that the US is showing its presence in this region. By doing that, the US is showing its commitment to peace and stability in this region," he said.


Taiwanese opposition chastise government for risky approach​


Despite the warming ties between Taiwan and the US, opposition leaders in Taiwan have criticize the current government for failing to maintain dialogue with China, saying the lack of communication with Beijing is putting Taiwan in a dangerous situation.

"Their policy is no contact, no communication, and no dialogue," Eric Chu, chairman of Taiwan's largest opposition party Kuomintang, told DW. "It's totally putting Taiwan into dangerous situations. If our government is a responsible one, [they should] still maintain the dialogue with China."

Wu said while China is Taiwan's top trading partner, it is Taiwan's "only source of threat."

"The Taiwanese government has been open to dialogue with China. The president says that and the government officials have been repeating that," he said. "As long as China is willing to discuss with Taiwan without any preconditions, Taiwan will be very forthcoming in engaging in dialogue with China."

"When China is threatening Taiwan to such a degree, we have to look around and see who else can provide Taiwan with support. We see the United States and we see other democracies. This is what we can count on," he added.

As the question of Taiwan's status becomes ever more imminent, Wu reiterated that the current government is committed to maintaining the status quo, as he believed that will serve the best interests of all parties concerned. "The status quo is that the Republic of China Taiwan and the People's Republic of China have no jurisdiction over each other," he told DW.

"The status quo is that Taiwan is already a democracy and that Taiwanese people have a say over Taiwan's future. That's the policy we are pursuing," Wu said.

Interview conducted by: Richard Walker, Tsou Tzung-Han
 

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