GOV/MIL Re: All those new IRS positions ~

Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
As a former US Federal Personnel Clerk, I think they will try very hard to poach from other agencies and target some recently retired or discharged military veterans; especially those with some background in bookkeeping. If they have too much trouble getting enough warm bodies, look for a new "specialist training" position that will allow for hiring "trainees" (at a lower GS level) who only work under the guidance of an experienced IRS employee for at least one to three years and who will be expected to take either in-house training in accounting and tax preparation and/or study in some local college (or virtual college) program covered as a job training benefit.

When I was working for the US Attorney's Office in San Francisco, they simply couldn't keep secretaries because they could hire after their one year of "special training" as full legal secretaries for thousands of dollars a year more than the government was allowed to pay them.

But the system used to train and pay the secretarial trainees is similar to what I think they will have to do with these essential Military Style IRS Police if they don't get enough people with both the military/law enforcement and financial skill sets. They will simply create those trainee positions at a GS level slightly lower than the full positions have and automatically promote individuals who pass their training period to being a "full agent" after XYZ period of time.

Unlike the Bay Area US Attorney's office, there is not likely to be a lot of competition that will hire away what are basically the accounting tax police/private army with guns. Blackwater perhaps and the military itself, but not a lot of competition there that I can see.
 
bw

bw

Fringe Ranger
Kathy in FL said:
It depends on if they use the same government qualified pay scale used by all other government hires. And if they don’t I can see other government employees having something to say about it.
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They will adjust pay and requirements to fulfill their mission, and other employees will follow orders if they want to stay employed.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Kathy in FL said:
It depends on if they use the same government qualified pay scale used by all other government hires. And if they don’t I can see other government employees having something to say about it.

A GS-5 makes a salary of $31,000 to $41,000 per year. That’s salaried. They don’t get paid by the hour. And to reach GS-5 you have to have a minimum of a AA or AS. Then there are the job specific requirements.

They may get some initial hires that they’ll show off … but the turnover is going to be pretty dramatic. The IRS already had an attrition rate of nearly 20% and they‘ve failed to meet hiring quotas several years running. Unlike the public sector, government is not free to simply say we can’t hire anyone at $10/hour so we are going to bump it up the $15/hour.
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Unless they changed it (totally possible) I got paid by the hour as a GS 5 and a GS 6 - I did have a basic salary but if I worked over time I got paid over time hours, if there was unpaid leave we did not get paid for that time period.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
bw said:
They will adjust pay and requirements to fulfill their mission, and other employees will follow orders if they want to stay employed.
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Legally they really can't do that, UNLESS congress passes special legislation - they can get extra pay for living in certain areas that congress has deemed need a higher pay check but that is across the board.

The only other way out of this, and again I don't think the IRS can legally do it, would be to "contract out" the work to a "private agency." But I don't think that would be legal in this case, but I'm not sure it wouldn't be either - but again I'm pretty sure congress would have to approve it.
 
Scrapman

Scrapman

Veteran Member
I feel this is somehow tied into the implementation of fed coin. It's ready to be implemented and they will create a reson. The fed has no more tricks to keep the ponsi scheme going .
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
bw said:
Check. Next?
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Not as easy as it sounds, which doesn't make it impossible, but it usually doesn't happen fast. Because while other Federal Employees can not strike, once they start tinkering with the basic civil service system thing can complicated very quickly. Just as in the Clinton Administration, all they did was try to throw out the 50-year-old rule book that had been used to decide everything and anything you can possibly imagine. The course I had to take on just how to use it was five full days long!

So officially they threw it out, were not able to get congress to agree on anything to replace it, and within about a month agencies were quietly using it again and as far as I know, they still are (it does get updated constantly). That's because it was based on legal, governmental, and departmental decisions going back to the 1930s. I remember our trainer telling us - "IF you need to know what to do if some employee punches his boss in the nose a few hours before his one-year provisional period of probation it is in here, everything is in here!"

The agencies simply couldn't function without some sort of rule book, just throwing out the old one didn't work because things come up all the time that personnel offices and others have to deal with.

Also, there have been firings and sometimes legal cases over agencies that "bumped up" the GS status of some jobs just to get the folks higher pay. If those "promotions" failed to meet the general criteria for that GS level of job, not only was it a rare reason higher-up folks could get fired, but it could mean the employees all got bumped back down to the lower levels. I saw it almost happen in one office and I only worked in personnel for about one and one-half years.
 
Kris Gandillon

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Kathy in FL said:
Are there really any democrats that want to work 40 hours a week, much less 50? Irregular hours and all the rest on top of it?

Why do I have a feeling they are going to have a tough time filling those positions and that turnover is going to be astronomical? LOL. Mall cops need not apply.
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Because they are classified as “Special Agents” they get a 25% pay boost due to the extra 10 hours a week requirement…according to the links in the job posting I followed.
 
SpokaneMan

SpokaneMan

Veteran Member
This feels nothing more than nefarious to me. Even though I'm exempt from State and Federal taxes, I would have all of your backs on this issue and wouldn't hesitate to fight beside any of you. Except the asshole Federals that have surely infiltrated this web site. It just might be time to turn TB2K into a private country club. Just sayin'.
 
NoDandy

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
sunflowerstation said:
There may be some applicants that are NOT legally allowed nor willing to carry a firearm...just sayin'
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Hey, we are talking about the govt. They are not concerned about the law. they do whatever they want. As to employees not willing to carry a firearm - They are fired.
 
S

SackLunch

Dirt roads take me home
Raggedyman said:
if "past performance" is any indicator - they will be the prime candidates and front lne operatives. is it just me or has someone ACTUALLY TALKED to an IRS agent who WASN'T black? I can truthfully say I HAVE NOT
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The accounting office I am familiar with says to call the IRS after 3pm PST. You are more likely to get agents from the Fresno, CA, and Ogden, UT, offices which tend to have different demographics.
 
LittleYellowFlower

LittleYellowFlower

Flower Whisperer
Cardinal said:
Depends on what the paycheck is, if the paycheck is decent, a lot of minorities will jump on it.
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They will definitely jump on that paycheck! That will be the ONLY form of exertion and action their new “employer” will get out of them because then they will just sit on their @sses and get paid…and get away with it just like they get away with everything else.
 
vector7

vector7

Dot Collector
bw said:
Not even our government is that stupid.
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Nowski

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
I believe that I know why.

Over the past month since my DKA episode, I have had some incredible
nightmares, the latest one just several hours ago. It was so bad,
as I thought that the DKA was returning, however I keep a glucometer
within reach on my nightstand. Checked my glucose, and it was 67.
The nightmare was so bad, that I was shaking to the point,
that I could not stand up and get out of bed.

The nightmare went away, and I was able to get out of bed,
however the shaking is still bad. I can barely type this post,
hands trembling really bad.

It is correct, that most of these new IRS Gestapo agents will be
POS Africans, however their stated purpose is incorrect.

These new IRS agents, will be the enforcers of slavery reparations.

I have spoken about this many times on this board, about when I
listened to urban talk radio, over 20 years ago. On one special
broadcast about reparations, one POS African sheboon said,
"we want houses, and we want land". The special quest on that
broadcast was a new Black Panther, and he told the sheboon,
that they would be getting their houses and land,
which of course will be taken from White people.

There you have it. They will kick in doors, kill who they have to kill,
and then formally seize the houses and lands, of that particular
unlucky White, all under the pretense of owing taxes.

Nothing much has been heard recently, on slavery reparations,
however I expect that to change soon, as the POS Communists
demoncraps must get every last POS African to the polls,
in order to thoroughly steal, the November 2022 mid-term elections,
which I truly believe they will do.

Do not forget, it is not your country now, its theirs.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 
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vector7

vector7

Dot Collector
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IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agent

WE’RE HIRING SPECIAL AGENTS NOW! Click here to apply today! Who are we? Criminal Investigation (CI) is the law enforcement branch of the IRS. Our mission is to serve the American public by investigating potential criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code, and related financial crimes, in...
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IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agent
WE’RE HIRING SPECIAL AGENTS NOW!
Click here to apply today!

Who are we?
Criminal Investigation (CI) is the law enforcement branch of the IRS. Our mission is to serve the American public by investigating potential criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code, and related financial crimes, in a manner that fosters confidence in the tax system and compliance with the law.

As a Special Agent you will combine your accounting skills with law enforcement skills to investigate financial crimes. Special Agents are duly sworn law enforcement officers who are trained to "follow the money." No matter what the source, all income earned, both legal and illegal, has the potential of becoming involved in crimes which fall within the investigative jurisdiction of the IRS Criminal Investigation. Because of the expertise required to conduct these complex financial investigations, IRS Special Agents are considered the premier financial investigators for the Federal government.

Criminal Investigation Special Agents are part of a diverse workforce that mirrors the taxpaying public we serve.

To learn more about us visit our Criminal Investigation page or read our 2021 annual report.

CI_Image.jpg


Key Requirements
  • Be a U.S. citizen
  • Be 21 years of age by the time that you complete the training academy and no older than 37 years of age at time of appointment.
  • Qualify based on education, specialized experience, or a combination of the two.
  • Possess a valid driver’s license.
  • Pass a background and criminal history record check.
  • Pass a pre-employment medical exam.
  • Pass a pre-employment drug test.
  • Pass a pre-employment tax examination.
  • Be legally allowed to carry a firearm.
Major Duties
  • Adhere to the highest standards of conduct, especially in maintaining honesty and integrity.
  • Work a minimum of 50 hours per week, which may include irregular hours, and be on-call 24/7, including holidays and weekends.
  • Maintain a level of fitness necessary to effectively respond to life-threatening situations on the job.
  • Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary.
  • Be willing and able to participate in arrests, execution of search warrants, and other dangerous assignments.
About the Application Process
Step 1: Identify and apply for a position at USAJOBS.gov
Step 2: Online Competency Based Assessment. You will receive an email shortly after completing your USAJOBs application. The email will contain instructions and a link to the online assessment that requires approximately two hours to complete. Regardless of when you receive the email to take the online assessment, the assessment must be completed no later than 48 hours after the USAJOBs announcement closes. No extensions to this time requirement will be made. For additional information, please review the IRS Special Agent Candidate Prep Guide.

Step 3: Manual Qualifications – the information you entered and supporting documentation (transcripts, etc.) is reviewed to confirm that you qualify to advance in the hiring process.

Step 4: Proctored Exam (Special Agent Knowledge and Skill Examination and Writing Sample). You will receive an email with instructions to proceed to the proctored exam site. You must follow the instructions exactly as they are presented to you. This proctored exam will take approximately four hours to complete. If you pass this proctored exam, you will be referred to the selecting official for an interview. For additional information, please review the IRS Special Agent Candidate Prep Guide.

Step 5: Interview. Conducted at an IRS-CI field office by senior managers.

Step 6: Tentative Offer of Employment via email. If you pass the interview, you will receive a tentative offer of employment via email. This offer will also identify the post of duty (POD) that you would be assigned to if you successfully complete the hiring process listed below.

Step 7: Background Investigation / tax compliance check

Step 8: Medical Evaluation

Step 9: Firm Offer of Employment. You will receive the firm offer of employment once you successfully complete the initial background screening, tax compliance check, and medical evaluation (pending final background investigation).

Step 10: Special Agent Basic Training (National Criminal Investigation Training Academy) You will be provided a reporting date to attend the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center to complete your training. This training will last approximately six months and is located in Glynco, Georgia.

Pay and Benefits
As a federal employee, the benefits you will received are unparalleled. Some of the benefits we offer include:
  • Competitive Salary based on qualifications and duty location
  • 11 Paid Holidays
  • 13 Vacation Days
  • 13 Sick Days
  • Health and Life Insurance
  • Federal Law Enforcement Retirement
  • Thrift Savings Program
The Special Agent position is unique in that it offers special pay incentives not offered with other IRS positions. For more detailed information about Special Agent pay, click here.

Career Opportunities
  • We're hiring Special Agents now! Click here to view our current job announcements.
  • Learn more about Special Agent positions by joining one of our virtual information sessions. Click here for a complete list of events.
Learn More!
If you have questions about a career in Law Enforcement, including Special Agent positions, please contact one of our recruiters.
 
Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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vector7 said:
JoBama Arming Federal Agents to Hunt down the Middle Class and MAGA Supporters...

Deleted but archived here...

IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agent

WE’RE HIRING SPECIAL AGENTS NOW! Click here to apply today! Who are we? Criminal Investigation (CI) is the law enforcement branch of the IRS. Our mission is to serve the American public by investigating potential criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code, and related financial crimes, in...
web.archive.org web.archive.org

IRS Criminal Investigation Special Agent
WE’RE HIRING SPECIAL AGENTS NOW!
Click here to apply today!

Who are we?
Criminal Investigation (CI) is the law enforcement branch of the IRS. Our mission is to serve the American public by investigating potential criminal violations of the Internal Revenue Code, and related financial crimes, in a manner that fosters confidence in the tax system and compliance with the law.

As a Special Agent you will combine your accounting skills with law enforcement skills to investigate financial crimes. Special Agents are duly sworn law enforcement officers who are trained to "follow the money." No matter what the source, all income earned, both legal and illegal, has the potential of becoming involved in crimes which fall within the investigative jurisdiction of the IRS Criminal Investigation. Because of the expertise required to conduct these complex financial investigations, IRS Special Agents are considered the premier financial investigators for the Federal government.

Criminal Investigation Special Agents are part of a diverse workforce that mirrors the taxpaying public we serve.

To learn more about us visit our Criminal Investigation page or read our 2021 annual report.

CI_Image.jpg


Key Requirements
  • Be a U.S. citizen
  • Be 21 years of age by the time that you complete the training academy and no older than 37 years of age at time of appointment.
  • Qualify based on education, specialized experience, or a combination of the two.
  • Possess a valid driver’s license.
  • Pass a background and criminal history record check.
  • Pass a pre-employment medical exam.
  • Pass a pre-employment drug test.
  • Pass a pre-employment tax examination.
  • Be legally allowed to carry a firearm.
Major Duties
  • Adhere to the highest standards of conduct, especially in maintaining honesty and integrity.
  • Work a minimum of 50 hours per week, which may include irregular hours, and be on-call 24/7, including holidays and weekends.
  • Maintain a level of fitness necessary to effectively respond to life-threatening situations on the job.
  • Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary.
  • Be willing and able to participate in arrests, execution of search warrants, and other dangerous assignments.
About the Application Process
Step 1: Identify and apply for a position at USAJOBS.gov
Step 2: Online Competency Based Assessment. You will receive an email shortly after completing your USAJOBs application. The email will contain instructions and a link to the online assessment that requires approximately two hours to complete. Regardless of when you receive the email to take the online assessment, the assessment must be completed no later than 48 hours after the USAJOBs announcement closes. No extensions to this time requirement will be made. For additional information, please review the IRS Special Agent Candidate Prep Guide.

Step 3: Manual Qualifications – the information you entered and supporting documentation (transcripts, etc.) is reviewed to confirm that you qualify to advance in the hiring process.

Step 4: Proctored Exam (Special Agent Knowledge and Skill Examination and Writing Sample). You will receive an email with instructions to proceed to the proctored exam site. You must follow the instructions exactly as they are presented to you. This proctored exam will take approximately four hours to complete. If you pass this proctored exam, you will be referred to the selecting official for an interview. For additional information, please review the IRS Special Agent Candidate Prep Guide.

Step 5: Interview. Conducted at an IRS-CI field office by senior managers.

Step 6: Tentative Offer of Employment via email. If you pass the interview, you will receive a tentative offer of employment via email. This offer will also identify the post of duty (POD) that you would be assigned to if you successfully complete the hiring process listed below.

Step 7: Background Investigation / tax compliance check

Step 8: Medical Evaluation

Step 9: Firm Offer of Employment. You will receive the firm offer of employment once you successfully complete the initial background screening, tax compliance check, and medical evaluation (pending final background investigation).

Step 10: Special Agent Basic Training (National Criminal Investigation Training Academy) You will be provided a reporting date to attend the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center to complete your training. This training will last approximately six months and is located in Glynco, Georgia.

Pay and Benefits
As a federal employee, the benefits you will received are unparalleled. Some of the benefits we offer include:
  • Competitive Salary based on qualifications and duty location
  • 11 Paid Holidays
  • 13 Vacation Days
  • 13 Sick Days
  • Health and Life Insurance
  • Federal Law Enforcement Retirement
  • Thrift Savings Program
The Special Agent position is unique in that it offers special pay incentives not offered with other IRS positions. For more detailed information about Special Agent pay, click here.

Career Opportunities
  • We're hiring Special Agents now! Click here to view our current job announcements.
  • Learn more about Special Agent positions by joining one of our virtual information sessions. Click here for a complete list of events.
Learn More!
If you have questions about a career in Law Enforcement, including Special Agent positions, please contact one of our recruiters.
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Those qualifications will knock out most of the BLM/Antifa types. Additionally, if they are working they can’t during the same time stream be an activist out in the friend creating mayhem. The required writing and proctored test will turn a lot of them off.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Not only will the usual cannon fodder not qualify if these requirements are actually used (and there are not a lot of "exceptions granted," but they obviously did get a waiver from the start to alter or increase the salaries which are very rare in the Civil Service.

Since the military is having a difficult time finding people qualified to sign up, especially in some sections of society, usually because of criminal records or not being able to pass a drug test, the IRS "Goon Squad" is likely to have the same problem. So I really wouldn't worry about the employees all being gang members or ghetto rats.

I'd also expect the age range will have to increase to at least 45 because the majority of qualified people who might be interested are likely to be either former military or people already in law enforcement, who would like a career change. Also, there will be lateral transfers from places like the forest service some of whose employees are already qualified to carry guns and act as police in certain situations in National Parks.

Those are also the groups of people least likely to have the drug, arrest, or tax issues that are found in the general population these days.

To quote my old boss back in 1989, "If we couldn't hire anyone who had ever smoked MJ in college we wouldn't have many employees."

That was in 1989, not to mention I saw people rejected from working at the Department of Justice who would have been lateral employees from other Federal Agencies because their taxes were in dispute. That comes up a lot and unless there's a resolution, there are many Federal Jobs a person just can't have; and that includes working at the IRS.
 
vector7

vector7

Dot Collector
Some 143 house members have asked to vote by proxy friday on a bill that would add 87,000 IRS agents more than doubling the government’s anti-citizen police force. This is a very dangerous and destructive way to undermine a free society as the elected officials decide not to work
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557709863098073088
View: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1557709863098073088?t=8djwuIqZzXJp29elt0oDzA&s=19


FLASHBACK: Obama calling for a Civilian National Security Force (17secs)
View: https://youtu.be/gwaAVJITx1Y
 
CaryC

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Kathy in FL said:
Are there really any democrats that want to work 40 hours a week, much less 50? Irregular hours and all the rest on top of it?
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Like heck yeah dudette.

Being able to payback those scummy conservative white supremacist racist, anti-abotionist, on the government dole and sanctions be like cool.

Let's go see if the local 501c3 church has pulled off the mattress tags.

Judge to IRS agent: Why did you shoot that pastor?

IRS agent: Yoo dude, Because I could.
 
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