Volcano Update 2 - Additional vents opening -Volcano on La Palma island in the Canary Islands has erupted

Marie

Veteran Member
My ten cents worth here, due to inflation. This may be it, it may be the big one. Then again it may do what Tambora did, it would produce huge amounts of lava, quakes, and the cone would grow, and then go quite for a few months.

This happened over an 18 month period, Dutch scientists at the time assured the gov't that it would quite down. It did not as we all now know. La Palma could do the same thing, is all I'm saying.

So if it goes quite after what seems like a major eruption I wouldn't ignore it as it could produce more eruptions in the foreseeable future.
I think we aren't even beginning to see what this ol boy is gonna do.
 

TorahTips

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no one has any idea what will happen, all of these people figure that the hill will side into the ocean fast, what if it goes slow. like 1 ft a minute, wouldnt do anything,
I couldn't agree more. Even if it all slides at once the prognosticators guess that the wave that will hit NYC will range from 3 ft to 3000 ft. No idea. I know two things for sure: 1) La Palma is VERY small and VERY far away from the east coast; and, 2) I know nothing about volcanology, geology, or any other ...ology associated with this issue.

I'm just attempting to watch with some type of reason.

ETA: I do know this for a fact: The longer this puppy belches fire, the more people will lose everything that they have forever. That is a fact.
 

TorahTips

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I don't have any talking things, like Alexa or whatever the other names are to ask to verify anything one way or the other.

It sounds to me like the people at whatever other site you are talking about are the ones trying to play people.

Kind of like asking magic 8 ball if the world will end, only in the case of Alexa it seems to be more about wording, accents and specificity of the question on what kind of answer you get.
Then I asked her when space aliens would land on earth. She said November 2021 in the US. Alexa is not a source of reliable information (including the weather). Alexa is a NSA listening device snooping on everything you do.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
no one has any idea what will happen, all of these people figure that the hill will side into the ocean fast, what if it goes slow. like 1 ft a minute, wouldnt do anything,

And this is the million dollar question that’s not sexy! What if it has already been sliding just a few centimeters a day for the past thirty days. Again not sexy, or news worthy! Tambora any one?
 

Lilbitsnana

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Then I asked her when space aliens would land on earth. She said November 2021 in the US. Alexa is not a source of reliable information (including the weather). Alexa is a NSA listening device snooping on everything you do.

Well, since my b-day falls in November, that isn't a good month for such shenanigans, lol.

I don't have and won't have an Alexa or anything similar. LOL, haven't even seen a magic 8 ball, except in stores, since the early/mid 70s. Granted, the new ones look way cooler than the old ones did.
 

Lilbitsnana

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Another 4.5, only this time it is just offshore of the Southern tip of La Palma Island.

Oct 16, 2021 5:41 am (GMT +1) (Oct 16, 2021 04:41 GMT)
14 minutes ago
4.5
39 km
Spain: S FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA.ILP
I FELT IT - 6 reports



They upgraded it and moved the location to show it was on the island but at a slightly shallower depth.

Oct 16, 2021 5:41 am (GMT +1) (Oct 16, 2021 04:41 GMT)
52 minutes ago
4.6
37 km
Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT

 

Lilbitsnana

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so, IGN and emsc have it rated differently, but I think there have been several times they were different. Since most of the ones come from IGN, I will keep the 4.9 until it is adjusted one way or other.

ETA: they downgraded it to a 4.5
ETA link for down grade:

original link

Moderate mag. 4.9 earthquake - La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain, on Saturday, Oct 16, 2021 7:06 am (GMT +1) - 17 minutes ago

Updated: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 06:22 GMT - 91 seconds ago

Overview | Quake Data | Interactive map | User Reports | Earlier quakes here | Quakes in Spain | Canary Islands
Moderate mag. 4.9 earthquake - La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain, on Saturday, Oct 16, 2021 7:06 am (GMT +1)
Moderate magnitude 4.9 earthquake at 44 km depth

16 Oct 06:09 UTC: First to report: EMSC after 2 minutes.
16 Oct 06:12: Now using data updates from IGN
16 Oct 06:12: Magnitude recalculated from 4.3 to 4.9. Hypocenter depth recalculated from 37.0 to 44.0 km (from 23 to 27 mi). Epicenter location corrected by 5 km (3.1 mi) towards NNW.


Date & time: Oct 16, 2021 06:06:59 UTC - 17 minutes ago
Local time at epicenter: Saturday, Oct 16, 2021 7:06 am (GMT +1)
Magnitude: 4.9
Depth: 44.0 km

Epicenter latitude / longitude: 28.5899°N / 17.8483°W
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(Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain)
Antipode: 28.59°S / 162.152°E
Nearest volcano: La Palma (1 km / 1 mi)
Nearby towns and cities:
6 km (4 mi) E of Puerto Naos (pop: 979) --> See nearby quakes!
10 km (6 mi) SE of Los Llanos de Aridane (La Palma Island) (pop: 20,800) --> See nearby quakes!
11 km (7 mi) N of Fuencaliente de la Palma (La Palma Island) (pop: 1,890) --> See nearby quakes!
13 km (8 mi) SW of Santa Cruz de La Palma (La Palma Island) (pop: 17,100) --> See nearby quakes!
22 km (14 mi) SSW of Garachico (Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Kanarische Inseln) (pop: 6,000) --> See nearby quakes!
27 km (16 mi) SSE of Santo Domingo (pop: 1,930) --> See nearby quakes!
73 km (45 mi) NW of Vallehermoso (pop: 3,300) --> See nearby quakes!
91 km (56 mi) NW of San Sebastian de La Gomera (Santa Cruz de Tenerife) (pop: 8,960) --> See nearby quakes!
156 km (97 mi) W of Tenerife (pop: 222,400) --> See nearby quakes!
245 km (152 mi) WNW of Las Palmas de Gran Canaria (pop: 381,800) --> See nearby quakes!
Weather at epicenter at time of quake:
Clear Sky
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12.6°C (55 F), humidity: 73%, wind: 4 m/s (7 kts) from NNW
Primary data source: IGN (Instituto Geográfico Nacional)
Estimated released energy: 1.4 x 1012 joules (392 megawatt hours, equivalent to 338 tons of TNT) More info

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Data for the same earthquake reported by different agencies
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Mag.DepthLocationSource
4.944 kmSpain: SE EL PASO.ILPIGN
4.350 kmCANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGIONEMSC
 
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Lilbitsnana

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double omg
I believe (hope anyway since they keep adding/adjusting) only two 4 plus quakes, confusion among the reporting agenies.

from livestream chat:

1:31 AMJus MackMorning a 4.9 and now a 4.5 @ 35km. Something brewing


1:33 AMCarlos@Jus Mack so 4.6M 1 hour ago, 4.9M 10 min ago at El Paso, now a 4.5M ....3 in a row.
 
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Lilbitsnana

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double omg

1:31 AMJus MackMorning a 4.9 and now a 4.5 @ 35km. Something brewing


1:33 AMCarlos@Jus Mack so 4.6M 1 hour ago, 4.9M 10 min ago at El Paso, now a 4.5M ....3 in a row.

Am hoping the differences between the reporting stations are part of the confusion, but I am not sure.

They downgraded the 4.9 to a 4.5


Moderate mag. 4.5 earthquake - La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain, on Saturday, Oct 16, 2021 7:07 am (GMT +1) - 29 minutes ago
 

Lilbitsnana

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okay, the second one for now anyway, they have located on the central far East side of island, right above the airport.

The first one they positioned in central lower 1/4 of island.

interactive map at this link:

ETA 2:47 AM CDT: musical chairs again, now both quakes have been positioned at central Southern 1/4 of island. (not near airport)
 
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Lilbitsnana

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One of the things the professor from a few weeks ago had said in addition to 3 main volcanoe plumes/one island from main lava base, was that he was also worried that the quakes and eruptions would unblock one of the other volcano plumes.

I don't remember which one he had said was partly or all the way blocked, but he was worried about having more than one of the volcanoes erupting (he was also worried about that one could totally collapse too).

He was an excitable man that spoke Spanish and used a pointer to stress his points. All I could do was keep replaying it and copy paste the type from the video and try to correctly spell the other words it sounded like he was saying for translation....lol. Maybe I should have replayed it a few more times.
 

Lilbitsnana

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It is still going strong, but visibility is very bad, so most cameras in same general areas/views.
ETA: there have been trucks loaded with furniture going past the cameras, so more evacuations are still being done, but I do not know from which areas.

info from the afarTV livestream:

6:52 AMEternal Life"Sulfur dioxide emissions remained significant with an average rate of 25 000 tons per day, and ash plumes rose as high as 3 km above the vents.

6:53 AMirishted13The new vent was identified by the Spanish gov’t experts yesterday

6:53 AMEternal LifeThe flow was 600 m across at the widest part and the leading edge was 4-6 m tall.

6:55 AMtoy runnerAccording to LPIndie Channel on YT a new vent has opened, app. 500m SE of the main vent. No lava flow confirmed, just ash and gas outflow. Sadly its acts completely independent from the main system.
 

Doc1

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It is still going strong, but visibility is very bad, so most cameras in same general areas/views.
ETA: there have been trucks loaded with furniture going past the cameras, so more evacuations are still being done, but I do not know from which areas.

info from the afarTV livestream:

6:52 AMEternal Life"Sulfur dioxide emissions remained significant with an average rate of 25 000 tons per day, and ash plumes rose as high as 3 km above the vents.

6:53 AMirishted13The new vent was identified by the Spanish gov’t experts yesterday

6:53 AMEternal LifeThe flow was 600 m across at the widest part and the leading edge was 4-6 m tall.

6:55 AMtoy runnerAccording to LPIndie Channel on YT a new vent has opened, app. 500m SE of the main vent. No lava flow confirmed, just ash and gas outflow. Sadly its acts completely independent from the main system.

I'll just point out that this volcano - as well as all the other ones - puts out more sulfur compounds and so-called greenhouse gasses than all of the cars and coal-fired power plants in the world. Most people, and especially the greenies, have no sense of perspective.

Next thing, we'll hear that Greta Thunberg wants to stick a catalytic converter on the LaPalma volcano!

Best
Doc
 

Doomer Doug

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The seismic activity is picking up. This is from the local newspaper, so it is extremely accurate and timely. I am seeing NO SIGN of any movement north into the landslide zone. On the map the landslide zone is well north of where the magma and earthquakes are happening. The various colored "balls" are where things are popping. The area north with the giant hole is visible is where the rocks would have to slide into the ocean and cause any "mega tsunami." Obviously, there is NO SIGN of any thing like that at all. To do so all of the colored things would have to move into that giant hole and then you would get the rock mass falling into the ocean and KABOOM.


INTENSE EARTHQUAKE SO FAR OF 4.6 DEGREES THIS MORNING
2021/10/16 10:47:37 Written by Canarian Weekly Tenerife

A total of 36 earthquakes have been registered on the island of La Palma since midnight last night, the strongest one of 4.6 degrees in Mazo, the highest magnitude felt so far since the eruption of the volcano began almost 4 weeks ago.

According to information from the National Geographic Institute (IGN), this 4.6 magnitude earthquake was registered at a depth of 37 kilometres at 4:41am this morning, and was followed up by a 4.5-degree quake at 6.07am in the same area and at the same depth, both felt by the population of the island.
The rest of last night’s seismicity oscillated between 2.3and 3.1 degrees of magnitude. 22 movements were registered in Fuencaliente, while in Mazo there have been 14 movements recorded by the IGN.
There have also been two small earthquakes recorded in Tenerife during the night, one of 1 degree in Santiago del Teide at a depth of 5 kilometres; and another in Guía de Isora of 1.7 at a depth of 4 kilometres.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I'll just point out that this volcano - as well as all the other ones - puts out more sulfur compounds and so-called greenhouse gasses than all of the cars and coal-fired power plants in the world. Most people, and especially the greenies, have no sense of perspective.

Next thing, we'll hear that Greta Thunberg wants to stick a catalytic converter on the LaPalma volcano!

Best
Doc
Pay for view on that would retire the US debt!

Summerthyme
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
The seismic activity is picking up. This is from the local newspaper, so it is extremely accurate and timely. I am seeing NO SIGN of any movement north into the landslide zone. On the map the landslide zone is well north of where the magma and earthquakes are happening. The various colored "balls" are where things are popping. The area north with the giant hole is visible is where the rocks would have to slide into the ocean and cause any "mega tsunami." Obviously, there is NO SIGN of any thing like that at all. To do so all of the colored things would have to move into that giant hole and then you would get the rock mass falling into the ocean and KABOOM.


INTENSE EARTHQUAKE SO FAR OF 4.6 DEGREES THIS MORNING
2021/10/16 10:47:37 Written by Canarian Weekly Tenerife

A total of 36 earthquakes have been registered on the island of La Palma since midnight last night, the strongest one of 4.6 degrees in Mazo, the highest magnitude felt so far since the eruption of the volcano began almost 4 weeks ago.

According to information from the National Geographic Institute (IGN), this 4.6 magnitude earthquake was registered at a depth of 37 kilometres at 4:41am this morning, and was followed up by a 4.5-degree quake at 6.07am in the same area and at the same depth, both felt by the population of the island.
The rest of last night’s seismicity oscillated between 2.3and 3.1 degrees of magnitude. 22 movements were registered in Fuencaliente, while in Mazo there have been 14 movements recorded by the IGN.
There have also been two small earthquakes recorded in Tenerife during the night, one of 1 degree in Santiago del Teide at a depth of 5 kilometres; and another in Guía de Isora of 1.7 at a depth of 4 kilometres.

Yes, this article you posted was about yesterdays quakes.
They are six hours ahead of Central time zone.
The seismic activity is picking up. This is from the local newspaper, so it is extremely accurate and timely. I am seeing NO SIGN of any movement north into the landslide zone. On the map the landslide zone is well north of where the magma and earthquakes are happening. The various colored "balls" are where things are popping. The area north with the giant hole is visible is where the rocks would have to slide into the ocean and cause any "mega tsunami." Obviously, there is NO SIGN of any thing like that at all. To do so all of the colored things would have to move into that giant hole and then you would get the rock mass falling into the ocean and KABOOM.


INTENSE EARTHQUAKE SO FAR OF 4.6 DEGREES THIS MORNING
2021/10/16 10:47:37 Written by Canarian Weekly Tenerife

A total of 36 earthquakes have been registered on the island of La Palma since midnight last night, the strongest one of 4.6 degrees in Mazo, the highest magnitude felt so far since the eruption of the volcano began almost 4 weeks ago.

According to information from the National Geographic Institute (IGN), this 4.6 magnitude earthquake was registered at a depth of 37 kilometres at 4:41am this morning, and was followed up by a 4.5-degree quake at 6.07am in the same area and at the same depth, both felt by the population of the island.
The rest of last night’s seismicity oscillated between 2.3and 3.1 degrees of magnitude. 22 movements were registered in Fuencaliente, while in Mazo there have been 14 movements recorded by the IGN.
There have also been two small earthquakes recorded in Tenerife during the night, one of 1 degree in Santiago del Teide at a depth of 5 kilometres; and another in Guía de Isora of 1.7 at a depth of 4 kilometres.

Yes, that is about the earthquakes that happened Friday night US time. (see post 892)
La Palma Island is 5 hours ahead of Eastern time, 6 hours ahead of me in Central time, 7 hours ahead of Mountain time and 8 hours ahead of Pacific time zone.

Today, just after noon their time was a 4.0 after a 24 hour break.

list of 4.0 plus earthquakes over last 30 days.

Note: to get the accurate time the quake happened on La Palma Island, it is GMT+1.
For some reason, some quakes show both their local time at time of quake and GMT and some only show GMT time; adjust accordingly.

It is currently 3:28 PM Sunday, October 17 on La Palma.


Sunday, October 17, 2021 13:55 GMT (35 earthquakes)
Oct 17, 2021 12:06 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 17, 2021 11:06 GMT)
3 hours 16 minutes ago
4.0
35 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT



Map
Saturday, October 16, 2021 21:25 GMT (24 earthquakes)
Oct 16, 2021 7:07 am (GMT +1) (Oct 16, 2021 06:07 GMT)
1 day 8 hours ago
4.3
37 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 45 reports



Map
Oct 16, 2021 5:41 am (GMT +1) (Oct 16, 2021 04:41 GMT)
1 day 10 hours ago
4.6
37 km
Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 24 reports



Map
Friday, October 15, 2021 22:10 GMT (21 earthquakes)
Oct 15, 2021 9:03 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 15, 2021 20:03 GMT)
1 day 18 hours ago
4.0
13 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 16 reports



Map
Oct 15, 2021 6:47 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 15, 2021 17:47 GMT)
1 day 21 hours ago
4.0
13 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 11 reports



Map
Oct 15, 2021 11:48 am (GMT +1) (Oct 15, 2021 10:48 GMT)
2 days ago
4.1
38 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 11 reports



Map
Oct 15, 2021 8:02 am (GMT +1) (Oct 15, 2021 07:02 GMT)
2 days ago
4.5
36 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 30 reports



Map
Oct 15, 2021 3:27 am (GMT +1) (Oct 15, 2021 02:27 GMT)
2 days ago
4.0
35 km
Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 15 reports



Map
Thursday, October 14, 2021 20:58 GMT (26 earthquakes)
Oct 14, 2021 2:27 am (GMT +1) (Oct 14, 2021 01:27 GMT)
4 days ago
4.5
37 km
Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 53 reports



Map
Wednesday, October 13, 2021 23:16 GMT (20 earthquakes)
Oct 13, 2021 3:33 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 13, 2021 14:33 GMT)
4 days ago
4.4
36 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 33 reports



Map
Tuesday, October 12, 2021 23:13 GMT (20 earthquakes)
Oct 12, 2021 8:25 am (GMT +1) (Oct 12, 2021 07:25 GMT)
5 days ago
4.1
37 km
Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 38 reports



Map
Oct 12, 2021 2:31 am (GMT +1) (Oct 12, 2021 01:31 GMT)
6 days ago
4.1
13 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 3 reports



Map
Monday, October 11, 2021 23:02 GMT (24 earthquakes)
Sunday, October 10, 2021 23:21 GMT (48 earthquakes)
Oct 10, 2021 10:46 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 10, 2021 21:46 GMT)
7 days ago
4.3
38 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain
I FELT IT - 49 reports



Map
Oct 10, 2021 2:05 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 10, 2021 13:05 GMT)
7 days ago
4.0
38 km
La Palma Island, Canary Islands, Spain 3 reports



Map
Oct 10, 2021 12:54 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 10, 2021 11:54 GMT)
7 days ago
4.1
37 km
Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain 47 reports



Map
Saturday, October 9, 2021 23:32 GMT (44 earthquakes)
Friday, October 8, 2021 23:55 GMT (20 earthquakes)
Oct 9, 2021 12:55 am (GMT +1) (Oct 8, 2021 23:55 GMT)
9 days ago
4.2
38 km
La Palma Island, 12 km southeast of Los Llanos de Aridane, Spain 9 reports



Map
Thursday, October 7, 2021 23:31 GMT (27 earthquakes)
Oct 7, 2021 12:17 pm (GMT +1) (Oct 7, 2021 11:17 GMT)
10 days ago
4.3
35 km
La Palma Island, 12 km south of Santa Cruz de La Palma, Spain 24 reports
Map
 
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Thanks for the thread. Go to for the updates, for sure.

Friend sent me a picture this morning, and the source link.

la palma lava flow.jpg

The source link I hadn't seen mentioned here, maybe I missed it. Lots of tools and views... Don't know if this link works well on cell phones - takes a lot of computing power.


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Lilbitsnana

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Bushcraft Bear is preparing his bugout bag. He doesn't feel safe in the house anymore. (because of the quakes, making plans to sleep in garden due to quakes. Also making plans to possibly go to other parts of island if necessary because the officials have said new eruption points are expected to form in near future)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnC1YzKY030
 
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Doc1

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And this is the million dollar question that’s not sexy! What if it has already been sliding just a few centimeters a day for the past thirty days. Again not sexy, or news worthy! Tambora any one?

Remember that I'm a (mostly) clueless volcano laymen. I have however been speaking with my professional geologist friend almost daily. According to him, the LaPalma volcano isn't the type that can explode like Tambora or Krakatoa. It could have comparatively minor explosions, though. Also (as I've mentioned previously) he agreed that my theory regarding the lava outflow was correct and made sense. IOW if enough lava builds up on the western side of the island, it could increase the weight on that side of the island enough to precipitate or contribute to a fault collapse which could cause a tsunami.

I'm not trying to freak anyone our here. These are all "coulds" and "maybes"... not guarantees of doom. Also, while my buddy is a degreed geologist, his specialty is not volcanoes. I think our conversations might be analogous to a trauma surgeon casually talking to an interested friend about infectious diseases. The surgeon, being an MD, is going to understand the basics of infections, but is not going to be a real expert in them.

Anyway, I supposed somewhat clued-in discussions are more productive than the clueless versions, right? If people here are interested, I'll try to contribute from time to time as - and if - our conversations result in new information or further developing theories.

If not, I suggest that everyone adorn themselves in volcano fetishes and dance, nude, to the volcano gods, on your front lawn at midnight. Go ahead and tell the cops that you got the suggestion to do this directly from Doc1. I'll use all my power and influence to have them serve you the fresher bologna sandwiches in the jailhouse :-)

Best
Doc
 

kenny1659

Veteran Member
Remember that I'm a (mostly) clueless volcano laymen. I have however been speaking with my professional geologist friend almost daily. According to him, the LaPalma volcano isn't the type that can explode like Tambora or Krakatoa. It could have comparatively minor explosions, though. Also (as I've mentioned previously) he agreed that my theory regarding the lava outflow was correct and made sense. IOW if enough lava builds up on the western side of the island, it could increase the weight on that side of the island enough to precipitate or contribute to a fault collapse which could cause a tsunami.

I'm not trying to freak anyone our here. These are all "coulds" and "maybes"... not guarantees of doom. Also, while my buddy is a degreed geologist, his specialty is not volcanoes. I think our conversations might be analogous to a trauma surgeon casually talking to an interested friend about infectious diseases. The surgeon, being an MD, is going to understand the basics of infections, but is not going to be a real expert in them.

Anyway, I supposed somewhat clued-in discussions are more productive than the clueless versions, right? If people here are interested, I'll try to contribute from time to time as - and if - our conversations result in new information or further developing theories.

If not, I suggest that everyone adorn themselves in volcano fetishes and dance, nude, to the volcano gods, on your front lawn at midnight. Go ahead and tell the cops that you got the suggestion to do this directly from Doc1. I'll use all my power and influence to have them serve you the fresher bologna sandwiches in the jailhouse :-)

Best
Doc
Doc all their food comes from Sysco. had enough of that in the medical facilities that I was in.
 
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