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BREAKING:#CoronaVirus- AFRICA- #Kenya - first suspected case.
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I have started another thread for this, can we please, please, please take this type of discussion over there? Not only is it distracting here but comments are likely to get lost on this large a thread.I would like to explore it just a little further on this thread. I think there are real implications that are cogent to the discussion. If you'll allow me to get to a proper keyboard, I can express myself better than poking at my phone.
Er... they state the fatality rate as of Jan 22 was 15 percent, not 35%. Rather large difference! Still very high for a disease with the r0 value it displays. <snip>
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Fair enough and thank you. I've complained about thread drift, I have no wish to be a hypocrite.I have started another thread for this, can we please, please, please take this type of discussion over there? Not only is it distracting here but comments are likely to get lost on this large a thread.
DISASTER - The Germ-Bio Warfare-Epidemics in History Thread
OK, gang, I'm starting this here because it is just getting too distracting on the main Kung-Flu thread and honestly the arguments and/or information can go on forever on these topics. It is up to the mods if they want to enforce putting this stuff on a separate thread or not, but I thought as...xf.timebomb2000.com
Best friends eldest daughter is an Epidemiologist/Bio-Statistician for the Great State of TEXAS. He queried her on her/colleagues thoughts on the matter....
"Appears to not have high mortality rate but sure is spreading quick."
"When new virus pops up out of nowhere it likely originated as a virus in an animal and evolved."
"Agree with 2.7% mortality rate, not bad UNLESS I AM ONE OF THE 2.7%"
I would like to see it explored but not on this thread. Seems like a good choice for another threadI would like to explore it just a little further on this thread. I think there are real implications that are cogent to the discussion. If you'll allow me to get to a proper keyboard, I can express myself better than poking at my phone.
Oh, believe me, I'm not minimizing this! But we won't be helping the panic by throwing out bogus, alarming numbers.The corona virus may only kill 15% or whatever number it lands on, but the panic and everything associated with having an economy grind to a complete stop will kill many more, probably more than the virus itself especially in China.
The government (if they are indeed doing a population reduction) can control how many and who lives, thereby shaping the future of China.
I would like to see it explored but not on this thread. Seems like a good choice for another thread
Why would the Chinese make a bioweapon that targets only the Chinese?
The corona virus may only kill 15% or whatever number it lands on, but the panic and everything associated with having an economy grind to a complete stop will kill many more, probably more than the virus itself especially in China.
there is one human species. Race does not mean species. We are more genetically different by race, than dogs are with wolves or polar bears are with black bears.
IF gene targeted viruses are even possible, they would be targeting Denison genes. Which make up to 10% of some Asian populatiome and are officially classified as a different species.
I personally prefer to use race. But use breeds instead if you must. But please, don't virtue signal by pretending human biodiversity doesn't exist and we are all a homogenous , sexless blob. I can't take anyone seriously that goes down the sjw religion lies.
Rather than race, anthropologists say a more accurate way to distinguish differences in populations of people are clines. A cline is a gradation in one or more characteristics within a species, especially between different populations. The concept of clines helps to explain that races as biological categories are not valid.
Race and genetics form their own double helix, twisting together through history. The Nazis, as everyone knows, justified the death camps on the grounds that Jews and Gypsies were genetically inferior—but what is less known is that the Nazis took their cue from eugenics legislation passed in the United States. Here, race is defined primarily by skin color. Since that's a genetic trait, the logic goes, race itself must be genetic, and there must be differences that are more than skin deep.
But that's not what modern genetics reveals. Quite the contrary, it shows that race is truly skin deep. Indeed, genetics undermines the whole concept that humanity is composed of ''races''—pure and static groups that are significantly different from one another. Genetics has proven otherwise by tracing human ancestry, as it is inscribed on DNA.
You are using Race as a synonym for species, I am using Race as a synonym for breed. No argument on species from me. But my Pitbull is not the same animal as a Yorkie or a Great Dane for that matter.Absolutely serious!
For there to be different races, then there has to be different points of origin. Such has been proven scientifically, not Biblically, (ETA: However the Bible does support that, but you don't have to use the Bible for this) through mitochondrial DNA descended from the same woman. Hence one race.
Meaning blacks did not come from monkey's, Japanese from Giraffes, well maybe the wrestlers came from hippo's, etc.
When you look around you, like at an airport, and see people with different skin colors, eye color, hair color, eye design (like Japanese) hair design (straight, curly). You should understand that those are by products of DNA in the same race. Meaning when a group of people over 1000 of years live in a specific locale, and essentially inbreed, they will breed out non dominate strains of DNA.
While essential strands of DNA like 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes, one mouth, and the X and Y Chromosome given by the father to produce a male or female are all the same in all flavors of the one race.
If this sounds strange to you, maybe you should consider taking up dog breeding. Same principal.
There have been rumors researchers may have been toying around with the lid to that container (ethnic bio-weapons).
Weaponizing Biotech: How China's Military Is Preparing for a 'New Domain of Warfare'
Under Beijing's civil-military fusion strategy, the PLA is sponsoring research on gene editing, human performance enhancement, and more.www.defenseone.com
What Will China Do With Your DNA?
Editor’s Note: In Parts I and II, Steven Mosher wrote about the Chinese Communist Party’s program to ...www.theepochtimes.com
Bio-warfare experts question why Canada was sending lethal viruses to China
'I think the Chinese activities … are highly suspicious,' one expert said, after it was revealed a Winnipeg lab sent samples of Ebola and henipavirus to Chinanationalpost.com
World must prepare for biological weapons that target ethnic groups based on genetics, says Cambridge University
Biological weapons could be built which target individuals in a specific ethnic group based on their DNA, a report by the University of Cambridge has warned.www.telegraph.co.uk
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Libby Cunningham @LibSCunningham 2m2 minutes ago
#Breaking - Butler County General Health investigating two possible cases of Coronavirus in Miami University students who just returned from China.
AS-Source News @ASBreakingNews 1m1 minute ago
BREAKING:#CoronaVirus- AFRICA-#Kenya - first suspected case.
The question people need to ask themselves is how will they be viewed by others at TB2K after this thread goes dormant. And just to not be viewed as hypocritical, I am talking about all posters, not just a few extreme views on either end of the spectrum.
it is Miami OhioThis is going to be interesting. Florida can get downright draconian when they view that someone needs to be quarantined. I forget the exact case but they've locked up people who refuse to take their TB meds correctly. They've taken kids away from parents who refuse to get vaccines. Heck they have red flag laws for "just in case." Can you imagine what they'll do with this?
There will probably be 35% to 40% of the aforementioned group that will not show up for work. I posted the original to see what the groups expectation was of ‘first responders’. The workforce has changed since 9/11 and there is not near the numbers of duty bound individuals that existed at that time. I saw hints of that ‘me and mine’ attitude in 2014 during the Ebola scare. We had a 25 to 30 percent drop out rate for those who had initially volunteered for our bio response team, and were very underwhelmed with the numbers who initially volunteered for the team. Out of a workforce of 5000, we received 28 volunteers and retained 16. I don’t expect any better numbers this time around.
"FLUFFING".....?????
2019 #NovalCoronavirus is lab-made by the #Chinese #military institutes. It is impossible to evolve naturally.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't even think they're testing anyone with symptoms who hasn't travelled to China or had close contact with someone who has. Since we're in the early stages of this, people are going to suspect they have the regular flu if that's their criteria for testing.