EDUC UNIV. OF MICHIGAN CANCELS ‘AMERICAN SNIPER’ SCREENING: ‘MADE STUDENTS FEEL UNSAFE’

Green Co.

Administrator
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http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/21937/

A scheduled movie screening of “American Sniper” at the University of Michigan was abruptly cancelled Tuesday after nearly 300 students and others complained the film perpetuates “negative and misleading stereotypes” against Muslims.

“The movie American Sniper not only tolerates but promotes anti-Muslim … rhetoric and sympathizes with a mass killer,” according to an online letter circulated among the campus community via Google Docs that garnered the signatures.

The signers were mostly students, but also some staff, as well as the Muslim Students’ Association and the president of Students Allied for Freedom and Equality, a Palestinian solidarity group at UMich.

The online memo, titled a “collective letter from Middle Eastern and North African (MENA) and Muslim students on campus,” accused the public university of “tolerating dangerous anti-Muslim and anti-MENA propaganda” by showing the movie, the highest grossing film of 2014.

It follows U.S. Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, who served four combat tours in Operation Iraqi Freedom and was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor, two Navy and Marine Corp Achievement Medals, and one Navy and Marine Corps commendation, according to his official Facebook page. But the protestors see him differently.

“Chris Kyle was a racist who took a disturbing stance on murdering Iraqi civilians,” the collective letter stated. “Middle Eastern characters in the film are not lent an ounce of humanity and watching this movie is provocative and unsafe to MENA and Muslim CollectiveLetter students who are too often reminded of how little the media and world values their lives. … The University of Michigan should not participate in further perpetuating these negative and misleading stereotypes.”

The film was set to be shown Friday on campus, but the letter – which asked for its cancellation – was successful.

“While our intent was to show a film, the impact of the content was harmful, and made students feel unsafe and unwelcomed at our program,” stated The Center for Campus Involvement, which oversees student activities and is run by university employees, as it announced its decision Tuesday on its various social media accounts, including Twitter and Facebook.

“We deeply regret causing harm to members of our community, and appreciate the thoughtful feedback provided to us by students and staff alike.”

University spokesman Rick Fitzgerald confirmed to The College Fix on Tuesday the movie was cancelled.

“The Center for Campus Involvement … did hear concerns from students,” Fitzgerald said, noting he did not have further details at the time.


“We have elected to pull the film from this week’s program and screen another movie in its place that we believe better creates the fun, engaging atmosphere we seek, without excluding valued members of our community,” the center stated.

But not all students agree with this decision.

“It would be nice to see the university … take a stand against outrageous claims of ‘student exclusion,'” University of Michigan sophomore Jason Weaver told The College Fix. “The film American Sniper in no way creates student exclusion any more than Saving Private Ryan. Both show American soldiers at war, the atrocities of war, and the costs of war, yet I’m sure Saving Private Ryan would not illicit the same response. Just because the enemy in American Sniper shares ethnicity with students on campus does not mean they are conflated as the enemy any more than a German student should be conflated with Nazism.”

“American Sniper” was set to be shown as part of the center’s “UMix Late Night” program, which brings movies, games, dances and other social events to the student body. The center is responsible for more than 300 co-curricular programs each year, including cultural and educational programs, films, art exhibits, UMix Late Night, athletic/spirit activities and various performance groups and concerts, its website states.

“We in the Center for Campus Involvement and the UMix Late Night program did not intend to exclude any students or communities on campus through showing this film,” the center’s announcement stated.

“… UMix should always be a safe space for students to engage, unwind, and create community with others, and we commit to listening to and learning from our community in the interest of fostering that environment. … We will take time to deeper understand and screen for content that can negatively stereotype a group.”
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
The online memo, titled a “collective letter from Middle Eastern and North African (MENA) and Muslim students on campus,” accused the public university of “tolerating dangerous anti-Muslim and anti-MENA propaganda” by showing the movie, the highest grossing film of 2014.

Unless I've misread something here, this is just wrong.

http://www.the-numbers.com/market/2014/top-grossing-movies

1 Guardians of the Galaxy 8/1/2014 Walt Disney Adventure PG-13 $333,055,258 40,765,637
2 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 11/21/2014 Lionsgate Thriller/Suspense PG-13 $323,734,502 39,624,786
3 Captain America: The Winter Soldier 4/4/2014 Walt Disney Action PG-13 $259,746,958 31,792,773
4 The Lego Movie 2/7/2014 Warner Bros. Adventure PG $257,784,718 31,552,597
5 Transformers: Age of Extinction 6/27/2014 Paramount Pictures Action PG-13 $245,439,076 30,041,502

...

205 American Sniper 12/25/2014 Warner Bros. Drama R $2,229,288 272,862
 

crossbowboy

Certifiable
Quote:

“Middle Eastern characters in the film are not lent an ounce of humanity ..."

So the problem is with an accurate portrayal of Muslims?
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Don't let a cool draft of reality into the hothouse; the orchids will all die of shock.
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
Contrary to the other article, Americans ARE NOT the most easily offended folks on the planet.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When those poor little students are being hunted by other muslims, they're going to beg for someone like Chris Kyle to help protect them. Used to be, colleges would show extremely controversial movies, on purpose, to provoke conversation, reflection and debate in the furtherance of education.

It was EXPECTED that the students would behave themselves as adults (though not always what happened) over the material. When Platoon came out, it prompted some poor young thing in one of my classes to declare she was shocked to learned that we killed people in the Vietnam War. (Apparently all her education - she was a college senior - never defined the word "War" for her.) Yes, I think she graduated.
 

SusanKaye-ND

Contributing Member
When those poor little students are being hunted by other muslims, they're going to beg for someone like Chris Kyle to help protect them. Used to be, colleges would show extremely controversial movies, on purpose, to provoke conversation, reflection and debate in the furtherance of education.

It was EXPECTED that the students would behave themselves as adults (though not always what happened) over the material. When Platoon came out, it prompted some poor young thing in one of my classes to declare she was shocked to learned that we killed people in the Vietnam War. (Apparently all her education - she was a college senior - never defined the word "War" for her.) Yes, I think she graduated.


You explained it perfectly. I agree with you 100%.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Oh, it's much worse than that.
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http://www.firstthings.com/article/2015/04/the-end-of-the-university

The End of the University

by Roger Scruton

April 2015

Universities exist to provide students with the knowledge, skills, and culture that will prepare them for life, while enhancing the intellectual capital upon which we all depend. Evidently the two purposes are distinct. One concerns the growth of the individual, the other our shared need for knowledge. But they are also intertwined, so that damage to the one purpose is damage to the other. That is what we are now seeing, as our universities increasingly turn against the culture that created them, withholding it from the young.

The years spent at university belong with the rites of initiation studied by the Victorian anthropologists, in which those born into the tribe assume the burden of perpetuating it. If we lose sight of this, it seems to me, then we are in danger of detaching the university from its social and moral purpose, which is that of handing on both a store of knowledge and the culture that makes sense of it.

That purpose has been central to the educational tradition that created Western civilization. Greek paideia regarded the cultivation of citizenship as the core of the curriculum. Religious practice and moral education remained a fundamental part of university studies throughout the Middle Ages, and the Renaissance ideal of the virtuoso was the inspiration for the emerging curriculum of the studia humaniores. The university that emerged from the Enlightenment did not relax the moral reins but regarded scholarship as a disciplined way of life, whose rules and pro*cedures set it apart from everyday affairs. However, it provided those everyday affairs with the long-term perspective without which no human activity makes proper sense. Even the boisterous student life of the German universities during the nineteenth century, when dueling became part of the university culture, was contained within formal uniform codes of behavior and collegiate domesticity and devoted to that *peculiar synthesis of moral discipline, factual knowledge, and cultural competence that the Germans know as Bildung.

During the course of the nineteenth century, however, the universities suffered a rapid change in their public reception. The decline of the religious way of life, the rise of the middle classes eager for social status and political power, and the demands for the knowledge and skills required by an industrial economy all put pressure on the universities to change their curriculum, their recruitment of students and teachers, and their relation to the surrounding culture. New universities were founded in Britain and America, one of them—University College London, dating from 1826—with an explicitly secular curriculum, designed to produce scientific minds that would sweep away the theological cobwebs in which all university subjects had previously been wrapped.


Despite those changes, however, which forced educational institutions into a new consciousness of their mission, the university retained its status as a guardian of high culture. It was a place where speculative thinking, critical inquiry, and the study of important books and languages were all maintained in an atmosphere of studious isolation. When Cardinal Newman wrote The Idea of a University in 1852, it was largely to uphold the old conception of the university, as a place apart, a quasi-monastic precinct opposed to the utilitarian mindset of the new manufacturing society. For Newman, a university exists to mold the characters of those who attend it. Immersing its students in a collegiate environment, and impressing on them an ideal of the educated mind, helps to turn raw human beings into gentlemen.

This, Newman implied, is the true social function of the university. Within college walls the adolescent is granted a vision of the ends of life; and he takes from the university the one thing that the world does not provide, which is a conception of intrinsic value. And that is why the university is so important in an age of commerce and industry, when the utilitarian temptation besieges us on every side, and when we are in danger of making every purpose a material one—in other words, as Newman saw it, in danger of allowing the means to swallow the ends.

Much has changed since Newman’s day. To suggest that universities are engaged in producing gentlemen is more than faintly ridiculous in an age when most students are women. Newman’s ideal university was modeled on the actual universities of Oxford, Cambridge, and Trinity College, Dublin, which at the time admitted only men, did not permit their resident scholars to marry, and were maintained as quasi-religious institutions within the fold of the Anglican Church. Their undergraduates were recruited largely from the private schools, and their curriculum was solidly based in Latin, Greek, theology, and mathematics. Their domestic life revolved around the college, where dons and undergraduates had their living quarters, and where they dined together each evening in hall, robed in their academic gowns.


Only a small proportion of those who attended the old British universities in Newman’s day regarded study as the real purpose of being “up” at the alma mater. Some were there to row or play rugby; some were biding time before inheriting a title; some were on their way to commissions in the army, and were meanwhile rioting with their chums. Almost all were members of a social elite that had hit on this unique way of perpetuating itself, by coating its power with a veneer of high culture. And in this protected and beautiful environment you could also take culture seriously. With money in the bank and time on your hands, it was not so hard to turn your back on utilitarian values.

Today’s university differs from Cardinal *Newman’s in almost every respect. It recruits from all classes of society, is open equally to men and to women, and is very often financed and provisioned by the state. Little if anything remains of the poised domestic life that shaped the soul of Newman, and the curriculum centers not on sublime and purposeless subjects like ancient Greek, in which there hovers the entrancing vision of a life beyond commerce, but on sciences, vocational disciplines, and the now ubiquitous “business studies” through which students supposedly learn the ways of the world.

Moreover, universities have expanded to offer their services to an ever-increasing proportion of the population, and to absorb an ever-growing amount of the national budget. In the state of Massachusetts, university education has the largest revenue of any industry. There is at least one university in every major British or American city, and American state universities may have, at any one time, upward of 50,000 students. Higher education is offered as a right to all who pass the French baccalauréat or the German Feststellungsprüfung, and European politicians often speak as though the work of educational reform will not be complete until every child is able in due time to become a graduate. The university is no longer in the business of creating a social elite, but in the rival business of ensuring that elites are a thing of the past.


Under the pretense of providing a “purpose beyond purpose,” its critics might say, the university extolled by Newman was designed to protect the privileges of an existing upper class and to place obstacles before the advance of its competitors. It imparted futile skills, which were esteemed precisely for their futility, since this made them into a badge of membership that only a few could afford. And far from advancing the fund of knowledge, it existed to safeguard the sacred myths: It placed a protective wall of enchantment around the religion, the social values, and the high culture of the past, and pretended that the recondite skills required to enjoy this enchantment—Latin and Greek, for example—were the highest forms of knowledge. In short, the *Newmanite university was an instrument for the perpetuation of a leisure class. The culture that it passed on was not the property of the whole community but merely an ideological tool, through which the powers and privileges of the existing order were endowed with their aura of legitimacy.

Now, by contrast, we have universities dedicated to the growth of knowledge, which are not merely non-elitist but anti-elitist in their social structure. They make no discrimination on grounds of religion, sex, race, or class. They are places of open-minded research and questioning, places without dogmatic commitments, whose purpose is to advance knowledge through a spirit of free inquiry. This spirit is imparted to their students, who have the widest possible choice of curriculum and acquire knowledge that is not merely firmly grounded but eminently useful in their future lives: business administration, for example, hotel management, or international relations. In short, the universities have evolved from socially exclusive clubs, for the study of precious futilities, to socially inclusive training centers, for the propagation of needed skills. And the culture that they impart is that not of a privileged elite but of an “inclusive culture” that anyone can acquire and enjoy.

That said, however, a visitor to the American university today is more likely to be struck by the indigenous varieties of censorship than by any atmosphere of free inquiry. It is true that Americans live in a tolerant society. But they also breed vigilant guardians, keen to detect and extirpate the first signs of “prejudice” among the young. And these guardians have an innate tendency to gravitate to the universities, where the very freedom of the curriculum, and its openness to innovation, provide them with an opportunity to exercise their censorious passions. Books are put on or struck off the syllabus on grounds of their political correctness; speech codes and counseling services police the language and thought of both students and teachers; courses are designed to impart ideological conformity, and students are often penalized for having drawn some heretical conclusion about the leading issues of the day. In sensitive areas, such as race, sex, and the mysterious thing called “gender,” censorship is overtly directed not only at students but also at any teacher, however impartial and scrupulous, who comes up with the wrong conclusions.


Of course, the culture of the West remains the primary object of study in humanities departments. However, the purpose is not to instill that culture but to repudiate it—to examine it for all the ways in which it sins against the egalitarian worldview. The Marxist theory of ideology, or some feminist, poststructuralist, or Foucauldian descendent of it, will be summoned in proof of the view that the precious achievements of our culture owe their status to the power that speaks through them, and that they are therefore of no intrinsic worth. To put it another way: The old curriculum, which Newman saw as an end in itself, has been demoted to a means. That old curriculum existed, we are told, in order to maintain the hierarchies and distinctions, the forms of exclusion and domination that maintained a ruling elite. Studies in the humanities are now designed to prove this—to show the way in which, through its images, stories, and beliefs, through its works of art, its music, and its language, the culture of the West has no deeper meaning than the power that it served to perpetuate. In this way the whole idea of our inherited culture as an autonomous sphere of moral knowledge, and one that it requires learning, scholarship, and immersion to enhance and retain, is cast to the winds. The university, instead of transmitting culture, exists to deconstruct it, to remove its “aura,” and to leave the student, after four years of intellectual dissipation, with the view that anything goes and nothing matters.

The impression therefore arises that, outside the hard sciences, there is no received body of knowledge, and nothing to learn, save doctrinal attitudes. In The Closing of the American Mind, Allan Bloom lamented the languid relativism that had infected the humanities—the belief, shared by students and teachers alike, that there are no universal values, and that we study merely out of curiosity the works that have come down to us. If we remain indifferent to the moral challenge with which they confront us, it is largely because we no longer believe that there is such a thing as a real moral challenge.

True though Bloom’s observation is, it is not the whole truth. Moral relativism clears the ground for a new kind of absolutism. The emerging curriculum in the humanities is in fact far more censorious, in crucial matters, than the one that it strives to replace. It is no longer permitted to believe that there are real and inherent distinctions between people. All distinctions are “culturally constructed” and therefore changeable. And the business of the curriculum is to deconstruct them, to replace distinction with equality in every sphere where distinction has been part of the inherited culture. Students must believe that in crucial respects, in particular in those matters that touch on race, sex, class, role, and cultural refinement, Western civilization is just an arbitrary ideological device, and certainly not (as its self-image suggests) a repository of real moral knowledge. Moreover, they must accept that the purpose of their education is not to inherit that culture but to question it and, if possible, to replace it with a new “multicultural” approach that makes no distinctions between the many forms of life by which the students find themselves surrounded.


To doubt those doctrines is to commit deepest heresy, and to pose a threat to the community that the modern university needs. For the modern university tries to cater to students regardless of religion, sex, race, or cultural background, even regardless of ability. It is to a great extent a creation of the state and is fully signed up to the statist idea of what a society should be—namely, a society without distinction. It is therefore as dependent on the belief in equality as Cardinal Newman’s university was dependent on the belief in God. Its purpose is to create a microcosm of the future society, just as Cardinal Newman’s college was a microcosm of the gentleman’s world. And since our inherited culture is a system of distinctions, standing opposed to equality in all the spheres where taste, judgment, and discrimination make their claims, the modern university has no choice but to stand opposed to Western culture.

Hence, despite their innate aspiration to membership, young people are told at university that they come from nowhere and belong to nothing: that all preexisting forms of membership are null and void. They are offered a rite of passage into cultural nothingness, since this is the only way to achieve the egalitarian goal. They are given, in place of the old beliefs of a civilization based on godliness, judgment, and distinction, the new beliefs of a society based in equality and inclusion; they are told that the judgment of other lifestyles is a crime. If the purpose were merely to substitute one belief system for another, it would be open to rational debate. But the purpose is to substitute one community for another.

But what is the alternative? If the universities do not propagate the culture that was once entrusted to them, where else can young people go in search of it? Some thoughts in answer to that question were suggested by experiences that began for me in 1979. The writings of Foucault, Deleuze, and Bourdieu were then beginning to make waves at the University of London, where I taught. My students were being told on every side that there is no such thing as knowledge in the humanities and that universities exist not to justify culture as a form of knowledge but to unmask it as a form of power.


In response I asked myself what exactly I was trying to teach, and why. By introducing students to the great works of philosophy, literature, and criticism that I had absorbed at school and university, I felt that I was offering them the frame of reference, the store of speculations, the paradigms of insight and allusion, through which to understand their world. I was offering them membership in a culture, not as a body of doctrine but as an ongoing conversation. And this, I felt, was a form of real knowledge: not knowledge of facts and theories, but knowledge of what to feel, how to relate, and with whom to belong. Yet this body of knowledge, as I assumed it to be, was now dismissed as bourgeois ideology, or—in Foucault’s idiom—as the episteme, the accumulated savoir, of a dominating class.

One day an invitation came to me, by word of mouth, to address an underground seminar in Prague. I accepted; as a result, I was brought into contact with people for whom the pursuit of knowledge and culture was not a dispensable luxury but a necessity. Nothing else could provide them with what they sought, which was an escape route from the world of lies by which they were surrounded. And by discussing the Western cultural heritage among themselves, they were marked out as heretics, who risked arrest and imprisonment merely for meeting as they did. Ironically, perhaps the greatest intellectual achievement of the Communist party was to convince people that Plato’s distinction between knowledge and opinion is a valid one, and that ideological opinion is not merely distinct from knowledge but the enemy of knowledge, the disease implanted in the human brain that makes it impossible to distinguish true ideas from false ones. That was the disease spread by the Party. And it was spread by Foucault, too. For it was Foucault who taught my colleagues to evaluate every idea, every argument, every institution, convention, or tradition in terms of the “domination” that it masks. Truth and falsehood had no real significance in Foucault’s world; all that mattered was power.

These issues had been brought into sharp relief for the Czechs and Slovaks by *Václav Havel’s essay “The Power of the Powerless” (1978), enjoining his compatriots to “live in truth.” How could they do that, if they were unable to distinguish the true from the false? And how could they distinguish the true from the false without the benefit of real culture and real knowledge? Hence the search for those things had become urgent. And the price of that search was high—harassment, arrest, deprivation of ordinary rights and privileges, and a life on the margins of society. When something has a high moral price, only committed people will pursue it. I therefore found, in the underground seminars, a unique student body—people dedicated to *knowledge, as I understood it, and aware of the ease and the danger of replacing knowledge with mere opinion. Moreover, they were looking for knowledge in the place where it is most necessary and also hardest to find—in philosophy, history, art, and literature, in the places where critical understanding, rather than scientific method, is our only guide. And what was most interesting to me was the urgent desire among all my new students to inherit what had been handed down to them. They had been raised in a world where all forms of belonging, other than submission to the ruling Party, had been marginalized or denounced as crimes. They understood instinctively that a cultural heritage is precious, precisely because it offers a rite of passage into the thing that you truly are and the community of feeling that is yours.


There was another winsome feature of the underground seminars, which is that their intellectual resources were so sparse. Academics in the West are obliged to publish articles and books if they are to advance in their careers, and in the years since the Second World War this had led to a proliferation of literature that, if not always second-rate from the intellectual point of view, has almost invariably been without literary merit—stodgy, cluttered with footnotes, without telling imagery or turns of phrase, and both ephemeral in content and impossible to ignore. The weight of this pseudo-literature oppresses both teachers and students in the humanities, and it is now all but impossible to unearth the classics that lie buried beneath it.

I sometimes think that the greatest service to our culture was done by the person who set fire to the library at Alexandria, thereby ensuring that nothing survived of that mass of literature, other than those works considered so precious that each educated person would have a copy of his own. The communists had performed a similar service to intellectual life in Czechoslovakia, by preventing the publication of anything save those works deemed so precious that people were prepared to produce them in laborious samizdat editions. These would be passed from hand to hand and read with eager interest by people for whom knowledge, rather than career advancement, was the goal. How refreshing this was, after the life among academic journals and footling footnotes!

Of course, the circumstances of the underground seminars were unusual and nobody would want to reproduce them. Nevertheless, during the ten years that I worked with others to turn these private reading groups into a structured (if clandestine) university, I learned two very important truths. The first is that a cultural inheritance really is a body of knowledge and not a collection of opinions—knowledge of the human heart, and of the long-term vision of a human community. The second is that this knowledge can be taught, and that it does not require a vast investment of money to do this, certainly not the $50,000 per student per year that is demanded by an Ivy League university. It requires a handful of books that have passed the test of time and are treasured by all who truly study them. It requires teachers with knowledge and students eager to acquire it. And it requires the continuing attempt to express what one has learned, either in essays or in the face-to-face encounter with a critic. All the rest—administration, information technology, lecture halls, libraries, extracurricular resources—is, by comparison, an insignificant luxury.


When institutions are incurably corrupted, as the universities were corrupted under communism, we must begin again, even if the cost is as high as it was in Soviet-occupied Europe. For us the cost is not so high. The most precious gift of our civilization, and the one that was most under threat during the twentieth century, is the freedom to associate. Because this freedom still exists, and nowhere more than in America, the fact that we can no longer entrust our high culture to the universities matters less. The fate of Harvard and Yale is inevitably of general concern; but there are also places like St. John’s College in Annapolis, or Hillsdale College in Michigan, where people who believe in the old curriculum are prepared to teach it. There are private reading groups, online courses, associations of scholars, think tanks, and public-lecture series. There are institutions like the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, which offers a rescue service for students beaten down by political correctness. There are journals like this one, which serve as a focal point for discussions that, after all, do not need a university in order to take place. It seems to me that we have allowed ourselves to be intimidated into the belief that, because universities have libraries, laboratories, learned professors, and substantial endowments, they are also indispensable repositories of knowledge. In the sciences this is true. But it is no longer true in the humanities.

However, the way forward is not as clear as the defenders of the old curriculum would like it be. Great Books programs, surveys of our cultural heritage, the comparative study of Western art, music, and architecture—all these are obvious choices. But why? What is it that distinguishes those programs from the courses in pop music, strip cartoons, and gender studies that so easily step in to replace them? To say that the traditional curriculum contained real knowledge as opposed to ephemeral distractions is to beg the question. For we don’t know what knowledge really consists in. We feel it, of course, as my Czech students felt it. We feel the call of the culture that is ours, and we want to say that, in responding to this call, we are leaving the world of opinion and entering the world of knowledge. But why?

Answers to date are either trivial—as when *Matthew Arnold tells us, in Culture and Anarchy, that a high culture consists of the “best that has been thought and said”—or else some version of the Enlightenment view that cultural knowledge involves transcending the particular into the universal, replacing our constricted loyalties and imagined communities with some cosmopolitan ideal. And it is a small step from this Enlightenment position to the multicultural and egalitarian curriculum that espouses the human universal only because everything distinctive of a real cultural inheritance has been removed from it. Until we come up with something better than those two approaches, we will not, I suspect, escape the grip of the universities, or feel confident enough to start again without them.

Roger Scruton is author of Notes from Underground and The Soul of the World.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
SIGH.
Dozdoats, a proper discussion of that post needs it's own thread, or even more appropriately a comfortable salon with smoking privileges and plenty of libation at hand. And DAYS.

But in short, universities were well within their purview to teach these "new fangled concepts of culture" because the students coming to them, were well-versed in the foundations of their own culture in high school and the university required additional in-depth study of one's own cultural treasures. That requirement was dropped when it became fashionable to disparage the "dead white guys" -- even though many of THEM, were women and people of color. (Harriet Beecher Stowe, Frederick Douglass, etc.)

High schools lost their focus, of preparing students along vocational or college-prep tracks, when forced to meet arbitrary "universal" test standards. And the lower grades, I fear, have become mere parental substitutes to teach the socialization skills and some watered down and completely inadequate knowledge-set that can not be applied to the basic task of learning.

Otherwise, why are colleges forced to admit students who can barely read at a 4th grade level, have little language or writing skills (to say nothing of research skills), and struggle with the basics of math? Tuition dollars, is too simple an answer -- though I'm positive that this is true. Those students, who need a full year of remedial classes, are not stupid. But they've been served extremely poorly for 12 years of previous education.

Lowering the standards for college doesn't generate MORE qualified graduates.

Instead, I would argue what is happening in reality, is that students are told there is something un-respectable about vocational careers and that they are denied the cultural education to be able to decide that for themselves. Many gentlemen farmers or printers or tradesmen of earlier generations were able to quote the Bible, Shakespeare, Longfellow and had a passing knowledge of Latin and Greek.

I'm more than a little passionate on the topic of how education has been pretzled inside out, into something it was never intended to be. And perhaps a tad radical in my beliefs about the purpose of an education, too. Although some of those past thinkers on education would understand me, I think...
 

Repairman-Jack

Veteran Member
Unless I've misread something here, this is just wrong.

http://www.the-numbers.com/market/2014/top-grossing-movies

1 Guardians of the Galaxy 8/1/2014 Walt Disney Adventure PG-13 $333,055,258 40,765,637
2 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 11/21/2014 Lionsgate Thriller/Suspense PG-13 $323,734,502 39,624,786
3 Captain America: The Winter Soldier 4/4/2014 Walt Disney Action PG-13 $259,746,958 31,792,773
4 The Lego Movie 2/7/2014 Warner Bros. Adventure PG $257,784,718 31,552,597
5 Transformers: Age of Extinction 6/27/2014 Paramount Pictures Action PG-13 $245,439,076 30,041,502

...

205 American Sniper 12/25/2014 Warner Bros. Drama R $2,229,288 272,862

What is missing is that American Sniper did not have major release until January 16th 2015, that list was 2014- through Jan 5th 2015...in that time frame the movie had only limited releases....it has now grossed over 500 Million world wide
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Princess Sac, PRECISELY!

My agemates have done our kids and grand kids a disservice by demanding "Relevance" in our early schooling, rather than a grounding in "Why things are the way they are, from the Beginning..."
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I will freely admit to being a tad curmudgeonly on this topic. I served my time "behind enemy lines" as a professor and later a more support-related tech position. I was naive enough to think I could reason with PhDs... and gave it my best. They can be completely irrational and in complete denial of same, simultaneously.

Quite the accomplishment.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
More often these days, when I hear liberals go balls to the wall goofy, like this college and all the hollyweird crowds comments
about the sniper movie, as well as for other media events like the recent Gay Pizza ho-ha and the Ferguson 'hands up', etc., etc.,
I'm hoping they and the media resist coming to their senses too soon and backing off into something sounding more reasonable.
There is a silent majority of good decent people that are even further inoculated against the leftist agenda of the shrill liberals
(and their media enablers) ridiculous stands the more they get to see them all go far off the deep end. I love when they do that!

Yes, try to educate people to the liberals flawed logic and all their blatant hypocrisy, but be grateful, too, for how frequently and
easy they make our job to show others what, disconnected from reality, idiots they truly are. Especially, when they go too far and
more get to easily see then what inevitable baloney they are trying to unleash if ever following their agenda to it's logical conclusion.

- Shane

PS - I'm reminded my same attitude goes for bad laws, too, like Obamacare, which I really wish they'd quit modifying & postponing
the worst provisions of it. My not favorite President, Lincoln, did say something that made a lot of sense; "The best way to get a
bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly."
Make sense?
 
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Wise Owl

Deceased
Folks, this is U of M. Pontiac Michigan. Bastion of liberal teaching. Pretty sure their enrollment includes a LOT of Muslim students. It's just a short ride north of Detroit. All that area is liberal, democrat country. I used to hate driving thru that area to get to my daughter's place in Ohio. I wouldn't live anywhere near it.
So, of course they are scared. Bunch of libs/dems/ and other assorted lilies of the valley there.

Sort of like Berkley..........
 

blackguard

Veteran Member
Gutless wonders. Heaven forbid any of those precious students be exposed to what is going on in the world. If they had to deal with facts it might upset their unicorns and we simply can't have that. Friggin cowards who have never stood up for anything in their lives are going to preach to others about how wrong something is?????? I served in the military, been in law enforcement, was a volunteer firefighter and done a variety of private security including executive protection and in contrast a bunch of whining ass students are offended by a movie????? F**K them
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
If the current situation "of concern" only involved an economic component these fools/tools would only be a passing annoyance to the body politic due to their inability to acquire gainful employment and perpetuate themselves. Unfortunately they are pawns being used by "others" who though exposing the same ideology, in fact actually subscribe to a world view and goals that are the opposite of the "cumbaya" they entwine the easily swayed and self-blinded hot house prodigies that in the main seem to populate these institutions of alleged higher learning and had the time to show themselves to be so inane as to blatantly give evidence as to their lack of critical thinking ability that one would assume would be a prerequisite for being at such an alleged institution in the first place.

An old co-worker of mine used to say there was a "culling coming" of such fools as these. That most of them are in these positions via tax dollars is going to postpone such a culling or epiphany far longer than it naturally should.

God help us all for what happens after that......
 

mzkitty

I give up.
:rolleyes:

Freaking morons:


2m
University of Michigan issues statement saying it was a mistake to cancel showing of 'American Sniper' movie on campus - @reporterdavidj
End of alert
 

mzkitty

I give up.
David Jesse @reporterdavidj · 16m 16 minutes ago

BREAKING: Under heavy pressure, #UMICH reverses course, will show "American Sniper" at original time and place.
@freep


David Jesse @reporterdavidj · 9m 9 minutes ago

. @UMICH: The initial decision to cancel the movie was not consistent with the high value the (U-M) places on freedom of expression


David Jesse @reporterdavidj · 1m 1 minute ago

#UMICH spokesman Rick Fitzgerald said the change of heart came after "further discussion". "American Sniper" will be shown as scheduled
 

mzkitty

I give up.
David Jesse @reporterdavidj · 20s 20 seconds ago

Announcement of #UMICH decision to reverse course and show "American Sniper" came right after @CoachJim4UM tweeted his support of movie
 

mzkitty

I give up.
David Jesse retweeted

Fred Sanford @FredSanford13 · 6m 6 minutes ago

@reporterdavidj @peddoc63 @freep LOL heavy pressure=Harbaugh, god bless him
 

IceWave

Veteran Member
Folks, this is U of M. Pontiac Michigan. Bastion of liberal teaching. Pretty sure their enrollment includes a LOT of Muslim students. It's just a short ride north of Detroit. All that area is liberal, democrat country. I used to hate driving thru that area to get to my daughter's place in Ohio. I wouldn't live anywhere near it.
So, of course they are scared. Bunch of libs/dems/ and other assorted lilies of the valley there.

Sort of like Berkley..........

Actually, U of M's main campus is in Ann Arbor which is west of Detroit. There are remote campuses in Flint and Dearborn.
 

willdo

Veteran Member
The signers were mostly students, but also some staff, as well as the Muslim Students’ Association and the president of Students Allied for Freedom and Equality, a Palestinian solidarity group at UMich.

The online memo, titled a “collective letter from Middle Eastern and North African (MENA) and Muslim students on campus,” accused the public university of “tolerating dangerous anti-Muslim and anti-MENA propaganda”

You haven't forgotten there is an agenda (and direct foreign and domestic guidance and support) those particular "clubs" follow/receive, right? You don't think they thought of it all by themselves, do you? Having offspring on campus in recent years, most of the activities are chosen by the student body government, and maybe not at all campuses, but most SGA's tend to lean more conservative in their thinking. Probably would have been interesting to watch how it all played out. The staff that signed on may have weighed heavily in their hast to "fix" things. Sounds like someone weighed in heavier still.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
What is missing is that American Sniper did not have major release until January 16th 2015, that list was 2014- through Jan 5th 2015...in that time frame the movie had only limited releases....it has now grossed over 500 Million world wide

So then it can't have been the highest-grossing movie of 2014 as the petition said.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
Apple Juice Juveniles. If they run straight home they might be able to hide behind mommies apron before the World News comes on at 5:00 6:00 and 7:00.
 
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