CORONA Today was the worst day ever for COVID numbers

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
Just a heads up, whether you believe these numbers are real or not, today was the worst day numbers-wise here in the U.S. since the pandemic emerged. Over 204,000 new cases today and almost 2,400 deaths. Clearly the masks mandates are not working. Expect more severe lockdowns and and an increase in talk about pushing the vaccine out, folks. I have a feeling the next few months are going to be a nightmare fight, in more ways than one.


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Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Local TV has been bombarding us with the most horrific ICU pictures every time I turn on the TV. Nurses and Drs with full respirator gear with hoses coming out the back. Blurred out faces writhing in bed with tubes everywhere. I dont know what to think about any of it.
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Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Local TV has been bombarding us with the most horrific ICU pictures every time I turn on the TV.

When our local TV news started that, I declared a "news fast" for at least a week, even though I generally just watch a small segment around the weather. Since it's quiet weather pattern, I have unplugged for a bit.

I have spoken with some area nurses who assume me that locally our hospital numbers are hype and that we have a number of hospital beds, as well as additional staff that can be brought in. That's good enough for me right now.

And, no, I'm not out socializing or attending huge rallies, but I have stopped worrying, and I make it a point to take a daily walk to get some air and sunshine. I'm not going to allow the media to steal my peace.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When our local TV news started that, I declared a "news fast" for at least a week, even though I generally just watch a small segment around the weather. Since it's quiet weather pattern, I have unplugged for a bit.

I have spoken with some area nurses who assume me that locally our hospital numbers are hype and that we have a number of hospital beds, as well as additional staff that can be brought in. That's good enough for me right now.

And, no, I'm not out socializing or attending huge rallies, but I have stopped worrying, and I make it a point to take a daily walk to get some air and sunshine. I'm not going to allow the media to steal my peace.

Many are doing this and as a result when viewership goes down so does the TV stations' profit margins as advertisers realize the shtick is no where to be found to get folks to watch.
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
I stopped watching the news about 8 weeks ago. It surely helps keep my blood pressure down.
Why listen to propaganda??? It can poison your mind and steal your peace. Jesus said "Be anxious for nothing". What does nothing leave out?
BTW, I think the numbers are ridiculous. There's a disease out there, not nearly as serious as they claim, but it's being used as a weapon to turn all of us into slaves.
 

To-late

Membership Revoked
Just a heads up, whether you believe these numbers are real or not, today was the worst day numbers-wise here in the U.S. since the pandemic emerged. Over 204,000 new cases today and almost 2,400 deaths. Clearly the masks mandates are not working. Expect more severe lockdowns and and an increase in talk about pushing the vaccine out, folks. I have a feeling the next few months are going to be a nightmare fight, in more ways than one.


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excuse me, but to me the numbers on the charts don’t add up properly.
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Normallguy

"just a human bein'"
Reports from people saying that Reid hospital in town is pretty full. Over 100 "cases" and beds being set up in the basement meeting rooms.
I cannot verify this.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Reports from people saying that Reid hospital in town is pretty full. Over 100 "cases" and beds being set up in the basement meeting rooms.
I cannot verify this.

Many areas are at or reaching capacity. It seems the, "surge," and extra beds setup months ago were premature...
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
I know for us in CT, our testing facilities have expanded and LOTS of people are getting testing with lines and wait times up to 8 hours. So the numbers increasing are from the pool of available statistics increasing, not because people are getting it more, but because more people are getting tested.

We had our surge way back when this started when everyone was telling us it was a "hoax' because they weren't seeing what we were in the NE with the virus' arrival. Now they get it as it starts to hit their areas with the same magnitude as it hit us the first time.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I know for us in CT, our testing facilities have expanded and LOTS of people are getting testing with lines and wait times up to 8 hours. So the numbers increasing are from the pool of available statistics increasing, not because people are getting it more, but because more people are getting tested.

We had our surge way back when this started when everyone was telling us it was a "hoax' because they weren't seeing what we were in the NE with the virus' arrival. Now they get it as it starts to hit their areas with the same magnitude as it hit us the first time.

I find it rather ironic that the CDC now recommends wearing a mask outside IF you can not maintain six feet of distance, AFTER election, AFTER the protests, AFTER a few holidays, AFTER everyone is soo over everything they will not listen.
 

Sozo

Insignificant Contributor
Local Gun Store owner has been closed for 2 weeks due to Covid.
He is an avid Trump supporter, obviously 2A supporter, and said it was 2 weeks of hell.
His response on masks?
Per governors orders, he is asking that customers wear masks in the store, but will not enforce it.

Another friend has 3 family members currently with covid, one is in the hospital and in pretty bad shape.

I've never doubted there was a virus, but I've known many who have had it, coughed and sneezed a bit, and it was over.
While others have spent weeks in the hospital and some never made it out.

I have no idea why it is fatal to some, and barely noticeable to others, and I don't believe the experts know either.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Local Gun Store owner has been closed for 2 weeks due to Covid.
He is an avid Trump supporter, obviously 2A supporter, and said it was 2 weeks of hell.
His response on masks?
Per governors orders, he is asking that customers wear masks in the store, but will not enforce it.

Another friend has 3 family members currently with covid, one is in the hospital and in pretty bad shape.

I've never doubted there was a virus, but I've known many who have had it, coughed and sneezed a bit, and it was over.
While others have spent weeks in the hospital and some never made it out.

I have no idea why it is fatal to some, and barely noticeable to others, and I don't believe the experts know either.

Last count I noted said that there were 30 viral variants of the bug. The variations are because the testing is not refined enough to differentiate between viral strains. If RNA sequences are differentiated enough, the vaccine will not work as expected.
 

glennb6

Inactive
OP be sure to read this post and thread on tb2k
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
OP be sure to read this post and thread on tb2k

Basically all other causes were reclassified to COVID creating a fake spike. Basically they accidentally posted something that blew the lid off of things and backed up all the conspiracy theories regarding faked and inflated numbers.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
Doesn't everyone know by now that positive cases simply means the number of PCR tests that were positive? Surely we here know that a positive doesn't mean a person is sick. CDC has reported that 90% of positives don't even have viable virus and can't make anyone sick. This reporting of 'case' numbers is ridiculous. The PCR test is fraught with problems and was never designed to tell if someone had COVID or not.

So why doesn't CDC make the test less sensitive? Guess they like keeping people locked down and afraid.

Notice how they are reporting 'lower numbers than usual' for flu. Well no kidding~. One doesn't even need a test these days to be diagnosed with Covid-19~ Just have a cough, a fever, whatever.

They calculated 900,000 hospitalizations in 2017/2018 due to seasonal flu, hospitals were over flowing, had to set up extra overflow areas, staff overworked....sound familiar?? And that was seasonal flu.

THEY are abusing the numbers. The statistics don't support their huge number of deaths due to COVID-19 above the 'average' number of deaths. In fact, the stats show no more deaths than usual. No spikes. No drastic increase in deaths due to covid. According to Johns Hopkins own numbers.

A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19 - The Johns Hopkins News-Letter



Take a look at the numbers and the charts - especially the chart that shows how the numbers of deaths for heart disease, chronic respiratory, etc suspiciously drop off and the number of COVID-19 deaths suspiciously goes up by the same number for 3 weeks in April.

A closer look at U.S. deaths due to COVID-19

By YANNI GU | November 22, 2020
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COURTESY OF GENEVIEVE BRIAND
After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September.
According to new data, the U.S. currently ranks first in total COVID-19 cases, new cases per day and deaths. Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics master’s degree program at Hopkins, critically analyzed the effect of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in her webinar titled “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data.”
From mid-March to mid-September, U.S. total deaths have reached 1.7 million, of which 200,000, or 12% of total deaths, are COVID-19-related. Instead of looking directly at COVID-19 deaths, Briand focused on total deaths per age group and per cause of death in the U.S. and used this information to shed light on the effects of COVID-19.
She explained that the significance of COVID-19 on U.S. deaths can be fully understood only through comparison to the number of total deaths in the United States.
After retrieving data on the CDC website, Briand compiled a graph representing percentages of total deaths per age category from early February to early September, which includes the period from before COVID-19 was detected in the U.S. to after infection rates soared.
Surprisingly, the deaths of older people stayed the same before and after COVID-19. Since COVID-19 mainly affects the elderly, experts expected an increase in the percentage of deaths in older age groups. However, this increase is not seen from the CDC data. In fact, the percentages of deaths among all age groups remain relatively the same.
“The reason we have a higher number of reported COVID-19 deaths among older individuals than younger individuals is simply because every day in the U.S. older individuals die in higher numbers than younger individuals,” Briand said.
Briand also noted that 50,000 to 70,000 deaths are seen both before and after COVID-19, indicating that this number of deaths was normal long before COVID-19 emerged. Therefore, according to Briand, not only has COVID-19 had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people, but it has also not increased the total number of deaths.
These data analyses suggest that in contrast to most people’s assumptions, the number of deaths by COVID-19 is not alarming. In fact, it has relatively no effect on deaths in the United States.
This comes as a shock to many people. How is it that the data lie so far from our perception?
To answer that question, Briand shifted her focus to the deaths per causes ranging from 2014 to 2020. There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.
Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.
“This is true every year. Every year in the U.S. when we observe the seasonal ups and downs, we have an increase of deaths due to all causes,” Briand pointed out.
When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.
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COURTESY OF GENEVIEVE BRIAND
Graph depicts the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018.
This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years. Interestingly, as depicted in the table below, the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19. This suggests, according to Briand, that the COVID-19 death toll is misleading. Briand believes that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may instead be recategorized as being due to COVID-19.
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COURTESY OF GENEVIEVE BRIAND
Graph depicts the total decrease in deaths by various causes, including COVID-19.
The CDC classified all deaths that are related to COVID-19 simply as COVID-19 deaths. Even patients dying from other underlying diseases but are infected with COVID-19 count as COVID-19 deaths. This is likely the main explanation as to why COVID-19 deaths drastically increased while deaths by all other diseases experienced a significant decrease.
“All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers. We found no evidence to the contrary,” Briand concluded.
In an interview with The News-Letter, Briand addressed the question of whether COVID-19 deaths can be called misleading since the infection might have exacerbated and even led to deaths by other underlying diseases.
“If [the COVID-19 death toll] was not misleading at all, what we should have observed is an increased number of heart attacks and increased COVID-19 numbers. But a decreased number of heart attacks and all the other death causes doesn’t give us a choice but to point to some misclassification,” Briand replied.
In other words, the effect of COVID-19 on deaths in the U.S. is considered problematic only when it increases the total number of deaths or the true death burden by a significant amount in addition to the expected deaths by other causes. Since the crude number of total deaths by all causes before and after COVID-19 has stayed the same, one can hardly say, in Briand’s view, that COVID-19 deaths are concerning.
Briand also mentioned that more research and data are needed to truly decipher the effect of COVID-19 on deaths in the United States.
Throughout the talk, Briand constantly emphasized that although COVID-19 is a serious national and global problem, she also stressed that society should never lose focus of the bigger picture — death in general.
The death of a loved one, from COVID-19 or from other causes, is always tragic, Briand explained. Each life is equally important and we should be reminded that even during a global pandemic we should not forget about the tragic loss of lives from other causes.
According to Briand, the over-exaggeration of the COVID-19 death number may be due to the constant emphasis on COVID-19-related deaths and the habitual overlooking of deaths by other natural causes in society.
During an interview with The News-Letter after the event, Poorna Dharmasena, a master’s candidate in Applied Economics, expressed his opinion about Briand’s concluding remarks.
“At the end of the day, it’s still a deadly virus. And over-exaggeration or not, to a certain degree, is irrelevant,” Dharmasena said.
When asked whether the public should be informed about this exaggeration in death numbers, Dharmasena stated that people have a right to know the truth. However, COVID-19 should still continuously be treated as a deadly disease to safeguard the vulnerable population.
 
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hunybee

Veteran Member
When our local TV news started that, I declared a "news fast" for at least a week, even though I generally just watch a small segment around the weather. Since it's quiet weather pattern, I have unplugged for a bit.

I have spoken with some area nurses who assume me that locally our hospital numbers are hype and that we have a number of hospital beds, as well as additional staff that can be brought in. That's good enough for me right now.

And, no, I'm not out socializing or attending huge rallies, but I have stopped worrying, and I make it a point to take a daily walk to get some air and sunshine. I'm not going to allow the media to steal my peace.


i had our local clinic/hospital call about a week ago asking if i wanted to schedule a procedure that one of my drs had made an order for if i wanted. i know i need to do it, but it isn't imperative at this time. we NORMALLY try to not go to the clinic or have hospital during cold and flu season anyway. that is just SOP.

i asked what it was like in regards to covid. she said they absolutely do not do surgeries and tests if a patient has covid and everyone must be tested yada yada yada.

i asked her, "but what about the clinic and hospital admissions for covid? is it nuts there?"

shes said that it is up somewhat, but nothing horrible.

sounds like a normal cold and flu season. the official word for my area, and the boots on the ground are not really matching here.
 

seagull

Veteran Member
My wife and I just got it. She is sick, I have no symptoms. I am an avid user of Vit D and Zinc along with my weekly 96 hour straight fasts giving me weekly immune system stem cell regens I think it has been quite helpful. Tested Wed.
Me too. Bad headache. Went to doc for follow up visit and they said- no entry- teleconference instead. Doc said I had classic COVID symptoms and I’m to get tested Monday. She said no temp is usual.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
Me too. Bad headache. Went to doc for follow up visit and they said- no entry- teleconference instead. Doc said I had classic COVID symptoms and I’m to get tested Monday. She said no temp is usual.


wait, no temp is USUAL for covid?

they keep saying temp temp temp. that's why all the drs and dentists and some businesses have someone at the door taking temps and making you wear a sticker with your temp on it, right?
 

Momof5

Senior Member
I know a lot of people who have had it. Some feel like they have the flu. Others say their head feels weird. Some have stomach issues. Alot didn't know it. A friend of mines daughter had it. She lived at home. Three other people lived there. Only she tested positive. The rest never did.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
wait, no temp is USUAL for covid?

they keep saying temp temp temp. that's why all the drs and dentists and some businesses have someone at the door taking temps and making you wear a sticker with your temp on it, right?

I think the temp-taking is more window dressing. In it's present form, it certainly isn't a diagnostic tool (same as PCR is NOT a diagnostic tool). Taking everybody's temp with those ridiculously inaccurate and uncalibrated temp guns operated by ridiculously untrained people is just a "feel-good" thing. Let's all look like we are doing something.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
I think the temp-taking is more window dressing. In it's present form, it certainly isn't a diagnostic tool (same as PCR is NOT a diagnostic tool). Taking everybody's temp with those ridiculously inaccurate and uncalibrated temp guns operated by ridiculously untrained people is just a "feel-good" thing. Let's all look like we are doing something.


yah
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Whether the numbers are true or not is left up to each individual to decide. We are in contact with North Mississippi Medical Center in our county through family affiliations. To date, the hospital complex has reached it's capacity for COVID patients. People in our area are being told that when it comes to hospitalizations from COVID, patient care will be rationed soon if something doesn't change. By that, they mean that the older population who have co-morbidities will go to the bottom of the list for ICU treatment, and will be given only palliative care. Those who are more likely to survive will get the treatment they need. Family members are telling me that there are patients lining the hallways, because there is no longer any place to put them. I know this hospital like the back of my hand, the hospital administrator on a personal level, and family members who are there to work. Nothing about any of this I've told you is some kind of a hoax. Take it for what it's worth.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
Maybe "they" are releasing it more to get the desired results, maybe even variants of it.

It is a man made bioweapon so that is not too far a stretch.

Or it is released and the nature of it causes it to mutate frequently

Or it has been engineered to affect certain factors, blood type, dna traits.

Maybe the tests have been altered to reflect positive or even facilitate the spread of it.

Maybe like the votes, the numbers are altered by the people that count them.

We do not know what to believe because of the evil that has been revealed the last few years.

There is no journalism to research and report the truth.

There are madmen with billions of dollars that think the earth would be a utopia if the only got rid of about 6.8 billion people.


From what we are hearing, it seems obvious the numbers are going to continue to rise, the fear is going to continue to be escalated until you have the majority of the people not to willing to take the vaccines but demanding it.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No temp is very common for covid. Those who do have a high temperature, often only have it a brief time.

The last study I saw showed that 87% of people who test positive will have symptoms. The majority of those who test positive asymptomatic, will develop symptoms.

But people want to believe it's only a cold. So they ignore all the information around them. Because being able to go back to normal is more important, than reality.

I'm not obligized to live under the fear created fantasy you've created as a retreat. That goes for the extremist on both sides.
 
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