ALERT Russia sends Warships to Syria

Maranatha

Redeemed
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...a/9390177/Russia-sends-warships-to-Syria.html

Two destroyers and three amphibious landing vessels carrying marines set sail from Russian bases in the Arctic and the Black Sea, according to Russian military sources.
Russia's defence ministry insisted that the mission was part of a previously scheduled exercise in the Atlantic, Mediterranean and Black Sea and at least one of the vessels in the flotilla has patrolled waters off Syria earlier this year.
But Western diplomats say the purpose of the mission is to show tangible support for Mr Assad, to warn the West against military intervention in Syria and to prepare for the possible evacuation of Russian nationals from the country.

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MARANATHA!
 

SIRR1

Deceased
Those Soviet ships are going to make nice artificial reefs for diving on in the Med, how very thoughtful of you Mr. Putin!

SIRR1
 

rodeorector

Global Moderator
I hope that Russia's presence will be enough of a threat to keep bozo from sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
this, plus our sending another (the 3rd) of our aircraft carriers back to the Mideast ahead of schedule (see other thread) .....

it's going to be an interesting night / next few days methinks...........
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Unless you have read the playbook and know the end from the beginning, assume that what any government does is not good for you.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Those Soviet ships are going to make nice artificial reefs for diving on in the Med, how very thoughtful of you Mr. Putin!

SIRR1

With Obama in the Whitehouse? you are kidding right?


Could you imagine our response to Russia putting missiles in cuba?????

Not only can I imagine it, I lived through it! But we had a real POTUS then.

MARANATHA!

There have GOTTA be some Flag Officers that dive....

Fun times a'comin' Ah'm a'feared...
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
A large Russian naval flotilla heads for Tartus, Syria

DEBKAfile July 10, 2012, 11:41 PM (GMT+02:00)

A flotilla of 12 to 15 Russian warships carrying marines is on its way to Tartus, Syria from North Sea Baltic and Black Sea bases. DEBKAfile: They include an anti-submarine vessel and the aircraft carrier Admiral Chabanenko, three landing craft carrying marine units and an escort of two logistic ships. Wednesday, Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov meets a visiting delegation of the opposition Syrian National Council in Moscow
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http://www.debka.com/newsupdatepopup/1628/

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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Actually not much of a surprise.

The question is HOW MANY Soviet Marines and Paratroopers are they planning to set down in Tartus??

THey can bring in a bunch but that would only be enough to protect Tartus, ... OR ..., They could disembark a LOT more and THAT would be warmaking inside Syria.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We can't touch them. If we were to engage in some violent act, they would cut off any of our forces in Afghanistan and wipe them out. They would shut down all oil coming through Hormuz. Iran and North Korea would join in and draw China in to the game. China would try to remain "neutral" but that would not last long. We are seeing the final stage being set for the grand finale.
 

Shinmen Takezo

Membership Revoked
Hurray for President Putin!
Good decision to preserve world peace.

THE RUSSIAN NAVY
A GLOBAL FORCE FOR GOOD!


While the one dimensional thinkers are rooting for war with Syria, they have given the following points absolutely no thought at all....

What about the huge Coptic Christian population living in Syria.
The demonic forces which control the USA and the EU are aiding and supplying the radical-Islamic-militants which are seeking to destabilize Syria.

FYI all you 1 dimensional thinkers--Aassad is the only thing, the only person protecting and shielding the huge Coptic Christian population in Syria.
When he goes, it will be all out persecution (as is going on in Egypt and Lybia now) against the Syrian Christians.

The USA and the outdated NATO alliance (demonic forces) are completely in the wrong with their violations of Syria's sovereignty.
FYI--Putin is making these moves partially because of the Christian populations, where many sects have close ties to the Russian Orthodox Church, and there are also Orthodox Churches there as well.... also because is a close client state of Russia going way, way back.

I welcome Russia and their navy going to protect Syria.
Syria, Russia, China and Iran would be more than justified in striking back against NATO (demonic) forces in Syria's defense.

If our demonic leaders in DC (McShame, Senator Sodomite, Clinton, and so on) push this interference agenda too much--it is going to cause WWIII.
And Jesus is not going to come floating down with lasers shooting out of his eyes and ears to save the day if this begins.

ST
 
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energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Maybe TPTB are creating an international incident that will lead to legitimizing the UN and call for world government.

All the world's a stage, remember?
 

Vegas321

Live free and survive
I hope that Russia's presence will be enough of a threat to keep bozo from sticking his nose in where it doesn't belong.

Yes. This a VERY Serious development. 15 Russian warships with Marines and combat Aircraft. US and the French will have 5 carriers in the Region soon. This whole region is going to get crowded real soon.

Everyone knows something is coming in the coming weeks.
 

maric

Short but deadly
Not only can I imagine it, I lived through it! But we had a real POTUS then.

MARANATHA!

Me too and yes we did have a real POTUS. Now? Ah, TS is about to HTF in a mighty big way I'm afraid. And whats even more worrisome is the current occupant of the WH will do NOTHING to defend Amerika.
 

Brutus

Membership Revoked
We can't touch them. If we were to engage in some violent act, they would cut off any of our forces in Afghanistan and wipe them out. They would shut down all oil coming through Hormuz. Iran and North Korea would join in and draw China in to the game. China would try to remain "neutral" but that would not last long. We are seeing the final stage being set for the grand finale.
China wouldn't be truly neutral.

They might POSE as neutral for some period of time for strategic deception purposes, but they've already cast their lot with Russia, Iran, NK, etc. See "Shanghai Cooperation Organization".

;)
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
We read SHTF novels and stories about an oppressive US government and the possibility of foreigh or UN troops on our soil, yet now we are well on our way to doing the same thing to Syria.

It's not our business. Who thinks it would worth it to send their son or husband over there to die. I mean it would be just like UN troops coming to our country.
 

Brutus

Membership Revoked
We read SHTF novels and stories about an oppressive US government and the possibility of foreigh or UN troops on our soil, yet now we are well on our way to doing the same thing to Syria.

It's not our business. Who thinks it would worth it to send their son or husband over there to die. I mean it would be just like UN troops coming to our country.

Ummm...... Not quite.

For all the bad our gov't does, it IS NOT murdering people in the streets by the hundreds the way the Assad regime is doing.

I don't want our folks over there any more than you do, but I will NOT countenance a moral equivalence argument between what our gov't does and what Syria's gov't does without speaking up.

:shr:
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Hurray for President Putin!
Good decision to preserve world peace.

THE RUSSIAN NAVY
A GLOBAL FORCE FOR GOOD!


While the one dimensional thinkers are rooting for war with Syria, they have given the following points absolutely no thought at all....

What about the huge Coptic Christian population living in Syria.
The demonic forces which control the USA and the EU are aiding and supplying the radical-Islamic-militants which are seeking to destabilize Syria.

FYI all you 1 dimensional thinkers--Aassad is the only thing, the only person protecting and shielding the huge Coptic Christian population in Syria.
When he goes, it will be all out persecution (as is going on in Egypt and Lybia now) against the Syrian Christians.

The USA and the outdated NATO alliance (demonic forces) are completely in the wrong with their violations of Syria's sovereignty.
FYI--Putin is making these moves partially because of the Christian populations, where many sects have close ties to the Russian Orthodox Church, and there are also Orthodox Churches there as well.... also because is a close client state of Russia going way, way back.

Russia?

Putin?

DEFENDING Christianity???!!!????


ST, on what planet have you been living for the past 80 + years?

Gulags? "Re-education camps"? The "knock on the door" in the middle of the night? Torture and forced "confession" of "crimes against the government" to justify the imprisonment of countless Christian pastors and believers? Laws against printing or owning Bibles (such that they had to be smuggled in to the Russian people)?

Russia the friend of Syria because it wants to defend CHRISTIANITY?

WHAT are you TALKING about???
 

Maranatha

Redeemed
Of all the motives I could think of for Putin's order to send warships to Syria, protecting the Coptic Christians would probably be last on the list. Agree with Countrymouse's statements.

The nations are aligning and very few of them are on our side. We have few friends in the world--more like frenemies. And then there are many, many enemies. :dot5:

MARANATHA!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
We can't touch them. If we were to engage in some violent act, they would cut off any of our forces in Afghanistan and wipe them out. They would shut down all oil coming through Hormuz. Iran and North Korea would join in and draw China in to the game. China would try to remain "neutral" but that would not last long. We are seeing the final stage being set for the grand finale.


So when you read about the destruction of Damascus did you ever stop to ponder for a bit what did it take to turn it into a glass parking lot???

K-
 

rmomaha

The Wise Man Prepares
Russia?

Putin?

DEFENDING Christianity???!!!????


ST, on what planet have you been living for the past 80 + years?

Gulags? "Re-education camps"? The "knock on the door" in the middle of the night? Torture and forced "confession" of "crimes against the government" to justify the imprisonment of countless Christian pastors and believers? Laws against printing or owning Bibles (such that they had to be smuggled in to the Russian people)?

Russia the friend of Syria because it wants to defend CHRISTIANITY?

WHAT are you TALKING about???

There is some truth to what the OP said. Think about it for awhile. Since when is NATO and the US, God's chosen force?
 

Shinmen Takezo

Membership Revoked
Russia?

Putin?

DEFENDING Christianity???!!!????


ST, on what planet have you been living for the past 80 + years?

Gulags? "Re-education camps"? The "knock on the door" in the middle of the night? Torture and forced "confession" of "crimes against the government" to justify the imprisonment of countless Christian pastors and believers? Laws against printing or owning Bibles (such that they had to be smuggled in to the Russian people)?

Russia the friend of Syria because it wants to defend CHRISTIANITY?

WHAT are you TALKING about???


I think you are infected with Stockholm Syndrome.

Just who is propelling this conflict?!
Russia?!

Nope

Who is backing the radical Islamic insurgents?

The USA and NATO countries--that's who.

Who are supplying the insurgents with weapons, money, training, intel and political support.

The USA and NATO countries--that's who.

You mentioned gulagas and re-education camps.
Perhaps in the bad old Soviet/Commie day (which you are still living within).
But not now.

Russia is not the shining path of freedom, I'll give you that.
But is Russia actively trying to overthrow any countries now?!
How many foreign countries do they have troops stationed in now?
How many foreign conflicts are they fighting?

None.

Who many foreign countries does the USA currently have our troops stationed in?
Answer: more countries than the USSR did at the height of the cold war.

Just face it... the USA is the aggressor in this situation.
We are the cause of this war, and we will reap the whirlwind because of it (and rightly so).
And Syria, and Russia and Iran and China will be completely justified when they retaliate.

When we loose a few carriers and cruisers and have perhaps several forward bases nuked in this conflict, don't day I didn't tell you so.

Of course many people will line up behind the flag and march off like good sheep and support our (demonically controlled) troops and president.

(cue the Gillete fight song...)

Rah-rah, sis-boom-bah... yeah war!

And if you fall in line you will be on the wrong side.

ST
 

Reborn

Seeking Aslan's Country
Yes. This a VERY Serious development. 15 Russian warships with Marines and combat Aircraft. US and the French will have 5 carriers in the Region soon. This whole region is going to get crowded real soon.

Everyone knows something is coming in the coming weeks.

Anyone happen to know where the HMS Daring is?
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Actually not much of a surprise.

The question is HOW MANY Soviet Marines and Paratroopers are they planning to set down in Tartus??

THey can bring in a bunch but that would only be enough to protect Tartus, ... OR ..., They could disembark a LOT more and THAT would be warmaking inside Syria.

Considering the situation on the ground in Syria, IMHO the number of troops the Russians would need to bring into Syria to have any immediate and telling effect (i.e. secure Assad's regime rikki tikki) would be in numbers akin to the "intervention" in Hungary, Czechoslovakia or Afghanistan. I don't think the Russians want to risk that much on the table, never mind the logistical issues involved or the contingency planning they'd need to have if things went "boiling hot" after they got such a host placed onto the end of such a tree limb.
 

almost ready

Inactive
Maybe this isn't enlightening but might resonate with some of you. The past 3 years I've been completely unable to discern any rhyme or reason for the USA's foreign policies. Didn't understand why we turned iraq over to the Shiites and Iran influence. Didn't understand why we invaded Libya and now don't understand why we are involved with Syria. Didn't understand our support of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

In all my life, and I do remember Vietnam from the early days, our foreign policy has never been so absurd, illogical, and unexplained.

It does appear that our administration is reactive not proactive and just trying to sweep over events so that we don't see or understand what is going on through media control to hide their policy lack of control/reactive state In most cases, other countries, be they Chinese, European, Pakistani, or whomever, are moving the world in various ways and our administration is trying to gloss over and hide the changes.

The Syrian intervention is stranger even than the Libyan, which itself was entirely ridiculous. This absence of reasonable communication between the leadership and the people that is elucidated in the I ching as a great disaster and trouble. Our natural inclination to run for the hills and hunker down is, in fact, reflected in the warnings in the I Ching to avoid being near the center of power during such times.

What do you know?

My greatest concern is this absence of rational contact between the apparently-mad administration and the people is opening the door to a huge number of conspiracy theories, most of which carry no water but capture the imagination People will grab onto any straw rather than drown in the abyss of unknowingness. I need not elucidate any of these theories here, they are everywhere.

Beware this brief and volatile period. The administration, acting with the Enthusiasm of the Catholic Church using the brand-new Gutenberg press to extract new taxes known as "indulgences" from every household, using the pieces of printed paper as records of such taxation, is now using the computer and internet to find every household and extract our wealth through instant bank account emptying and or "Obamacare Taxes" which can only be administered because of the new power of computer.

The Catholic Church quickly found itself dealing with Martin Luther's proclamation of protest on the door of a church.

The administration will also find itself increasingly facing pressures from people who are being themselves pressured by economic and taxation woes beyond their worldly experience. This ties in with the above, the apparent nonsense being promoted abroad by a military policy that extracts 52% of the federal budget but brings us nothing but grief (that we see and understand, anyway), and we must see we are in an even graver crisis than that of Nixon's Watergate period.

When was the last time you heard of any policy of this administration, whether foreign or domestic, that made sense to you? We are the most conservative and thoughtful of people, discussing, researching, and trying to think through these matters. Probably less than 5% of our citizenry is of such ilk. The rest are a ticking timebomb.

Just what's been bugging me recently. This business of Syria brings the whole ball of wax to the forefront. Or should I use snowball? Cause the whole snowball is there, not just the current issue, cause nothing is ever resolved to a reasonable conclusion. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and Egypt, even Haiti and the US itself just keep on getting worse and worse.
 
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Brutus

Membership Revoked
Actually not much of a surprise.

The question is HOW MANY Soviet Marines and Paratroopers are they planning to set down in Tartus??

THey can bring in a bunch but that would only be enough to protect Tartus, ... OR ..., They could disembark a LOT more and THAT would be warmaking inside Syria.

Considering the situation on the ground in Syria, IMHO the number of troops the Russians would need to bring into Syria to have any immediate and telling effect (i.e. secure Assad's regime rikki tikki) would be in numbers akin to the "intervention" in Hungary, Czechoslovakia or Afghanistan. I don't think the Russians want to risk that much on the table, never mind the logistical issues involved or the contingency planning they'd need to have if things went "boiling hot" after they got such a host placed onto the end of such a tree limb.

What the Russians are doing in Syria is a double game.

They want to appear to be supporting Assad since Syria is their long-time ally, but it's actually in their best interest for radicals to take over in Syria:

- The more radicals there are in power in the ME, the more unstable the region is.

- The more unstable the region is, the more international fear and concern there is.

- The more international fear and concern there is, the higher oil prices go.

- The higher oil prices go, the more money in Russia's treasury since they're now the number one exporter of oil in the world.

And it's not JUST about oil prices. The more radical regimes there are in power in the ME, the more likely one or more of them is likely to start trouble with Israel or the US or both of us. You couldn't get Assad to start anything against us or Israel even on a dare. He might be a murderous tyrant just like his old man, but as murderous tyrants go he's a fairly level-headed, cool-headed murderous tyrant, not a suicidal fanatic like the jihadists. Remember, he's Western-educated (optometry in Britain, IIRC) and he's a Baathist like Saddam was. He may play to the serious Muslims when it benefits him, but he's much more worldly and westernized and probably not all that religious in reality.

So, keep in mind: The Russians have to appear - at least for the time being - to support Assad, but what they really WANT is for the nutcases to take over, just like in Libya and Egypt.

;)
 

Brutus

Membership Revoked
Maybe this isn't enlightening but might resonate with some of you. The past 3 years I've been completely unable to discern any rhyme or reason for the USA's foreign policies. Didn't understand why we turned iraq over to the Shiites and Iran influence. Didn't understand why we invaded Libya and now don't understand why we are involved with Syria. Didn't understand our support of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

In all my life, and I do remember Vietnam from the early days, our foreign policy has never been so absurd, illogical, and unexplained.

It does appear that our administration is reactive not proactive and just trying to sweep over events so that we don't see or understand what is going on through media control to hide their policy lack of control/reactive state In most cases, other countries, be they Chinese, European, Pakistani, or whomever, are moving the world in various ways and our administration is trying to gloss over and hide the changes.

The Syrian intervention is stranger even than the Libyan, which itself was entirely ridiculous. This absence of reasonable communication between the leadership and the people that is elucidated in the I ching as a great disaster and trouble. Our natural inclination to run for the hills and hunker down is, in fact, reflected in the warnings in the I Ching to avoid being near the center of power during such times.

What do you know?

My greatest concern is this absence of rational contact between the apparently-mad administration and the people is opening the door to a huge number of conspiracy theories, most of which carry no water but capture the imagination People will grab onto any straw rather than drown in the abyss of unknowingness. I need not elucidate any of these theories here, they are everywhere.

Beware this brief and volatile period. The administration, acting with the Enthusiasm of the Catholic Church using the brand-new Gutenberg press to extract new taxes known as "indulgences" from every household, using the pieces of printed paper as records of such taxation, is now using the computer and internet to find every household and extract our wealth through instant bank account emptying and or "Obamacare Taxes" which can only be administered because of the new power of computer.

The Catholic Church quickly found itself dealing with Martin Luther's proclamation of protest on the door of a church.

The administration will also find itself increasingly facing pressures from people who are being themselves pressured by economic and taxation woes beyond their worldly experience. This ties in with the above, the apparent nonsense being promoted abroad by a military policy that extracts 52% of the federal budget but brings us nothing but grief (that we see and understand, anyway), and we must see we are in an even graver crisis than that of Nixon's Watergate period.

When was the last time you heard of any policy of this administration, whether foreign or domestic, that made sense to you? We are the most conservative and thoughtful of people, discussing, researching, and trying to think through these matters. Probably less than 5% of our citizenry is of such ilk. The rest are a ticking timebomb.

Just what's been bugging me recently. This business of Syria brings the whole ball of wax to the forefront. Or should I use snowball? Cause the whole snowball is there, not just the current issue, cause nothing is ever resolved to a reasonable conclusion. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and Egypt, even Haiti and the US itself just keep on getting worse and worse.

Western people have a liberal bent, very Pollyanna-ish in nature, that informs their opinions about self-determination of peoples, "democracy", etc.

Republicanism and democratic institutions worked here for a long time because we were a special case: a very determined, disciplined, independent-minded, and CHRISTIAN people.

Self-determination doesn't work well everywhere, especially in the Middle East where so many people are under the sway of a 7th century bunch of lunacy known as "Islam".

The people of the world are better off if the people of the ME, sad to say, are under the control of tyrants.

Giving political self-determination to a bunch of Islamic nutcases is like handing over the car keys to a mentally-retarded 12 year old.

:shk:
 

Foothiller

Veteran Member
Could you imagine our response to Russia putting missiles in cuba?????

If I'm not mistaken, the Russians put missiles in Cuba because we put missles targeted on Moscow, in Turkey, under Turkish control.

We didn't like missiles in Cuba, they didn't like them in Turkey.

The thing about US foreign policy is that we aggressively stick our military all over the place (we have Russia and Iran basically surrounded with bases, allies, and nuclear weapons).

And we get mad when someone calls our bluff or dares to give us a taste of golden rule.

Trust me, we don't want done to us what we've done to others. Never.

Vietnam, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Laos, The Philippines... I could go on.

Our lack of empathy and our narcissistic imperialism is going to bite us in the ass. Soon maybe, and hard for sure.

We are owed it.

And we are going to get it.

I wish we'd stop meddling but all I see is neocons on both the red team and the blue team who love interfering in other peoples' business and who love enriching their MIC campaign contributors.

Nothing short of a total collapse of this government is going to change any of it.
 

Brutus

Membership Revoked
If I'm not mistaken, the Russians put missiles in Cuba because we put missles targeted on Moscow, in Turkey, under Turkish control.

We didn't like missiles in Cuba, they didn't like them in Turkey.

The thing about US foreign policy is that we aggressively stick our military all over the place (we have Russia and Iran basically surrounded with bases, allies, and nuclear weapons).

And we get mad when someone calls our bluff or dares to give us a taste of golden rule.

Trust me, we don't want done to us what we've done to others. Never.

Vietnam, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Laos, The Philippines... I could go on.

Our lack of empathy and our narcissistic imperialism is going to bite us in the ass. Soon maybe, and hard for sure.

We are owed it.

And we are going to get it.

I wish we'd stop meddling but all I see is neocons on both the red team and the blue team who love interfering in other peoples' business and who love enriching their MIC campaign contributors.

Nothing short of a total collapse of this government is going to change any of it.

Again with the bullshit moral equivalency arguments.......

:rolleyes:

Trust me, we don't want done to us what we've done to others.

Heh.....

Trust ME, you don't want to done to us what RUSSIA has done to others.

Compared to what the communist bloc has done in the last 100 years or so, EVERYTHING the US has ever done looks like Christian mission work.

:rolleyes:
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
NATO, Russian naval-air buildup in Eastern Mediterranean, French units to Gulf

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report July 11, 2012, 11:44 AM (GMT+02:00)

NATO, which proclaims non-involvement in the Syrian conflict, and Russia, which vows to block foreign military action against the Assad regime, are both moving large naval forces into the eastern Mediterranean opposite Syrian shores.

A flotilla of at least 11 Russian warships has been detached from Caspian Sea, Black Sea and North Sea fleet bases and is on its way to the Syrian coast for a maneuver; NATO has consigned its rapid response Maritime Group 2 to the same stretch of sea - where also five Israeli warships are deployed. The Western alliance has also increased surveillance flights over the Mediterranean from the Geilenkirchen air base in Germany.

This rush of military movements is explained officially by the big air-and-sea exercise launched by Syria Sunday, July 8, to simulate outside aggression. It follows Iran’s practice of continuous military drills for repelling mock Western or Israel attacks.

The exercise began with a barrage of dozens of surface-to-sea missiles simulating naval and shore defense against approaching enemy craft and landing forces.

At about the same time, Iran embarked on a big air-***-missile defense exercise in the south to fight off potential aggression from the direction of the Gulf of Oman and the Gulf of Aden, where US air force units are clustered.

Debkafile’s military sources report that this is the first simultaneous, coordinated Syrian-Iranian military maneuver for drilling action against an advancing enemy. It is synchronized from a joint headquarters established for the purpose in Damascus.

While these coordinated maneuvers are being presented as designed to fend off foreign intervention in the Syrian conflict, our sources report that they are in fact preparing for a potential US attack on Iran’s nuclear program, which is now expected in Gulf and European military quarters to take place in October, three months hence.

High-ranking Saudi princes associated with their national military and intelligence agencies frankly confided to Arab and Western officials on recent visits to Riyadh that the US and, possibly Israel too, are on the verge of war on Iran. “It is already decided,” they say. The only question still open is the date, which could be before or after the US presidential election on November 6.

In line with this prediction, France is reported in Paris to be massing a large naval force in the United Arab Emirates. The French nuclear aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle-R91 is expected to dock soon at the French naval base in Port Zayid on Abu Dhabi’s northeastern coast opposite the strategic Strait of Hormuz. The French are also boosting their air units at Al Dhafra Air Base, stationing them alongside a large American air force presence
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http://www.debka.com/article/22168/...ildup-in-E-Mediterranean-French-units-to-Gulf

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Maranatha

Redeemed
Brutus, the Russian game plan you have suggested has merit. I had not thought of them playing a double game, but I think you may be right.

God is moving these chess pieces and He is the Master in more ways than one! The Bible prophecy concerning Damascus: “Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap.” Isaiah 17: 1 :ld: Don't know how this will play out, but but you can almost smell the smoke and feel the heat. :siren:

MARANATHA!
 

Brutus

Membership Revoked
Brutus, the Russian game plan you have suggested has merit. I had not thought of them playing a double game, but I think you may be right.

God is moving these chess pieces and He is the Master in more ways than one! The Bible prophecy concerning Damascus: “Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap.” Isaiah 17: 1 :ld: Don't know how this will play out, but but you can almost smell the smoke and feel the heat. :siren:

MARANATHA!
The prophecy about Damascus may come to fruition through this civil war they have going. If you think about it, it doesn't say that Damascus has to be destroyed by outside forces (us or the Israelis). Several months of house-to-house fighting with a full range of weapons employed by both sides may leave Damascus looking just as Isaiah described. It could end up so bad as to make Sarajevo look like a Saturday night neighborhood kegger gone a little crazy.

;)
 
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