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Dash

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@LahavHarkov

#BREAKING Israel's war cabinet (that's Netanyahu, Gallant and Gantz) voted unanimously to continue the operation in Rafah "to put military pressure on Hamas to advance the freeing of our hostages, and the other war aims."

In addition, Israel is sending negotiators "to exhaust the options to reach an deal on acceptable terms." They're doing this "though Hamas's offer is far from Israel's necessary demands."

View: https://twitter.com/lahavharkov/status/1787560451221381264?s=61
 

somewherepress

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"I am speaking to you from east of Rafah, from within the evacuation zones. The Israeli 'vehicles' are starting to enter from the eastern border. The situation is very bad"
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عبداللّٰه من غزّة

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أحدثكم من شرق رفح من داخل مناطق الإخلاء بدء الآليات الدخول من الحدود الشرقية الوضع سيء للغاية والقصف والاحزمة النارية مستمرة لا تتوقف قصف طائرات، قصف مدفعي، قنابل إنارة، طائرات أباتشي مساندة للآليات، إطلاق رصاص، صوت تحركات الآليات داخل حدود رفح، اللهم نستودعك انفسنا.

2:56 PM · May 6, 2024
 

Countrymouse

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Erick Erickson (on WSB now when this announcement came out) said HAMAS "didn't really believe" Israel when they said they were going into Rafah; then when Israel DID, they suddenly rushed to Egypt and Qatar to negotiate this "deal."
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Is there a significance to this date that I've forgotten?

Or just that it's exactly 7 months from the HAMAS attack on the Israelis?
Without drifting the thread into woo - I will explain that May 7th is a date which dozens of different types of prognosticators, from the mundane (people who look at world events and try to see where they are leading) to astrologers, psychics, and some remote viewers tagged on or around May 7th for things to "Kick Off." Or "Something very Big either economic or military will start."

Normally I don't post such things on the main, and any further discussion should probably be in the Woo Room. But I saw the time and date. It gave me chills.
 

Dash

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@AvivaKlompas

"We love death the way you love life"

The IDF has been calling families in Rafah and warning them to evacuate. This was the phone call between an IDF officer and a Gaza resident.

IDF: We must do everything within our means to prevent any fatalities.

Gazan: We want to die and our children also must die.

IDF: No, God forbid.

Gazan: We love death the way you love life.


View: https://twitter.com/avivaklompas/status/1787569535249191210?s=61
 

northern watch

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Israel Attacks Rafah, as It Questions Hamas Cease-Fire Terms; Israel studies militant group's proposal, which came soon after Israel urged evacuations ahead of offensive

Monday, May 6, 2024, 4:04 PM ET
By Rory Jones, Anat Peled, Fatima AbdulKarim and Summer Said
Wall Street Journal

TEL AVIV—Israel began hitting targets in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, after Hamas said it had accepted a proposal to pause the fighting that Israel said fell short of what it could accept.

Israel’s military said on Monday night that it was “conducting targeted strikes against Hamas terror targets in eastern Rafah” hours after Israel warned tens of thousands of Palestinians to evacuate parts of the city ahead of an offensive.

The new proposal incorporated Hamas’s own demands, including a cessation of military operations and a withdrawal of Israeli forces before an exchange of hostages in Gaza for Palestinian prisoners in Israel.

Israel said Monday it was sending a delegation to the mediators to try to reach a deal, even though the “Hamas proposal is far from Israel’s necessary requirements.”

The Israeli war cabinet said it decided to continue “the operation in Rafah in order to exert military pressure on Hamas in order to advance the release of our hostages and the other goals of the war,” according to the prime minister’s office.

The U.S. and Israel have called Hamas the obstacle to a deal for much of the past two weeks. The Hamas move, which set off celebrations in Gaza and in Arab capitals, appeared to be designed to pressure Israel to accept a deal, the Egyptian officials said.

Any deal that includes a permanent end to the war is likely to be rejected by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has repeatedly said Israel won’t accept those terms.

After Hamas’s announcement, Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari reiterated the evacuation plans and said that Israel struck 50 militant targets in the Rafah region on Monday.

Still, Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh worked Monday evening to create diplomatic pressure on Israel to accept a deal, calling Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas called on the international community to pressure Israel to accept a cease-fire.

The proposal accepted by Hamas includes a cessation of military action by both sides, before an exchange of hostages for an agreed-upon number of Palestinian prisoners and the complete withdrawal of Israeli troops from Gaza, according to a version of the proposal viewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The next stage in the deal would be the implementation of a reconstruction plan for the Gaza Strip over three to five years, including homes and civilian infrastructure and compensation for those affected, all under the supervision of Egypt, Qatar, the United Nations and other countries, according to the proposal. The deal would include a lifting of Israel’s blockade of Gaza, the proposal said.

Talks toward a deal had faltered Sunday in Cairo. Israel faulted Hamas and Monday morning warned some Rafah residents via text messages, phone calls, fliers and media broadcasts in Arabic to move to a designated area farther north ahead of an anticipated offensive to rout the militant group in the southern Gazan city.

Officials familiar with the Cairo talks said the main holdup over the weekend was disagreement over whether there should be a permanent end to the fighting, as demanded by Hamas, or just the temporary pause offered by Israel to recover hostages held in Gaza.

More than one million Palestinians are currently sheltering in Rafah, the only city in Gaza that hasn’t been subject to a full-on Israeli ground invasion. Most of them have been displaced from their homes in other parts of the enclave during the seven-month war, which started after a Hamas-led attack on Israel killed some 1,200 people, most of them civilians, on Oct. 7, according to Israel.

More than 34,000 Palestinians have been killed since the start of the Israeli offensive in Gaza, most of them civilians, according to Palestinian authorities, who don’t specify how many were combatants.

The Israeli military said Monday’s evacuation notice would affect an estimated 100,000 people in Rafah. It didn’t give a deadline for when the affected neighborhoods had to be evacuated or indicate when a broader offensive might start.

Israel says it needs to break up four remaining Hamas battalions located in Rafah to achieve its goal of destroying the group’s ability to attack Israel. The U.S. considers Hamas a terrorist organization, but the Biden administration has also warned Israel that an offensive in Rafah risks endangering more Palestinian lives amid growing international concern over the humanitarian crisis unfolding in the enclave.

President Biden, before departing his home in Wilmington, Del., spoke Monday morning with Netanyahu about a potential invasion of Rafah, White House officials said. The White House said Biden updated the Israeli leader on U.S. efforts to agree to a cease-fire and “reiterated his clear position on Rafah.”

The U.S. has repeatedly called on Israel to avoid an operation in the city unless it has a credible plan to limit the loss of Palestinian civilian life, and last week said it hadn’t yet received those reassurances.

Among Palestinians staying in the affected Rafah neighborhoods, the evacuation notice triggered renewed uncertainty over how to keep themselves and their loved ones safe. The messages called on residents to move to the al-Mawasi area north of Rafah, which Israel has designated as a humanitarian zone.

Some residents said they were trying to move out of the area on Monday amid Israeli airstrikes that restarted overnight and continued during the day. The Israeli military didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment on the airstrikes in Rafah.

Aid groups have warned that the area lacks sufficient infrastructure, including accommodation, to shelter large numbers of civilians. The Israeli military said Monday that it had expanded the humanitarian zone in al-Mawasi and that there were field hospitals and tents, as well as food, water, medication and other supplies in the area in anticipation of new arrivals from Rafah.

Mohammad Abu Yousef, who had been sheltering with his family in eastern Rafah, said he was packing up a donkey and carriage to move to Khan Younis, another city further north that has been severely damaged in the fighting. It is the sixth time he has been forced to relocate during the war, said the 46-year-old, who lived in Gaza City before the war.

“We don’t know if it’s going to be safer or not,” Abu Yusef said.

Talks over a cease-fire deal broke down on Sunday in Cairo after Hamas failed to formally respond to an Israeli-Egyptian proposal to pause the fighting in exchange for a release of hostages. The group has repeatedly asked for assurances that Israel won’t attack again after a cease-fire, but Netanyahu has refused to do so.

Arab mediators said Monday that the U.S., Egypt and Qatar were intensifying efforts to strike a cease-fire deal in anticipation of an Israeli offensive in Rafah. The director of the Central Intelligence Agency, William Burns, flew to Doha from Cairo after the weekend talks. Meanwhile, Egyptian officials invited Hamas back to Cairo on Tuesday, but the militant group hadn’t responded, they said.

The Arab mediators were still hopeful that a Rafah ground operation wasn’t imminent and that Israel’s evacuation notice was a pressure tactic to force Hamas to make concessions, Egyptian officials said Monday.

Egypt called on Israel to practice restraint and avoid escalation at what it said was a sensitive moment in the negotiations for a cease-fire. Its security services were placed on high alert, Egyptian officials said. Concerned that an Israeli military push into Rafah will set off a flood of refugees, Egypt has been building an 8-square-mile walled camp near the border to Gaza that could accommodate more than 100,000 people.

Hamas said Monday that Israel’s preparation for a Rafah assault “reaffirms the Netanyahu government’s determination to pursue a war” against Palestinians. The group called on the international community to stop the offensive, which it said threatens the lives of civilians. Still, Hamas’s armed wing was ready to fight, the group added, and warned an operation wouldn’t be easy for the Israeli military.

Hamas’s military arm on Sunday launched rockets and mortars from near Rafah toward a border crossing controlled by Israel, killing four soldiers and wounding several others, the Israeli military said. Hamas’s military arm claimed responsibility for the attack. Israel said it closed the border crossing, one of two main entryways for aid into Gaza, after the attack.

The closure of the border crossing from Israel to Gaza near Rafah on Sunday will hurt the entry of lifesaving humanitarian aid, the United Nations and other relief groups said Monday. Most aid now enters Gaza via two crossings in the south, and often struggles to reach those who need it most further north. Israel recently opened two separate crossings in northern Gaza.

“We’re mostly very alarmed if the fuel doesn’t come in, and the fuel only comes in through Rafah,” said Tamara Alrifai, director of communications and external relations for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees, the largest aid organization working in Gaza.

The U.N. children’s agency, Unicef, said a military siege in Rafah would pose catastrophic risks to what it said were hundreds of thousands of children sheltering there, many of whom are injured, sick, malnourished, traumatized or living with a disability.

“People in Rafah are now faced with an impossible choice,” said Tjada D’Oyen McKenna, chief executive of the humanitarian group Mercy Corps. “They can stay and face almost-certain bombardment or attempt a perilous journey to an unlivable area with virtually no remaining infrastructure or access to lifesaving aid.”

An offensive in Rafah also presents risks for Israel. Aside from potentially hurting Israel’s relationship with the U.S., the military risks killing Israeli hostages, many of whom are believed to be held in Rafah. More Israeli soldiers losing their lives during an offensive could put public pressure on the Israeli government to end the war.

Israel says 128 hostages who were abducted during the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attacks are still being held in Gaza. At least 35 of those remaining in Gaza, including three Americans, are dead, according to recently updated figures from Israel. Israeli and American officials privately estimate the number of dead hostages could be much higher.

The Israeli military said Monday that it would “continue pursuing Hamas everywhere in Gaza until all the hostages that they are holding in captivity are back home.”

Israel aims to bring in more aid through two alternative land routes in northern Gaza in the coming days to compensate for the closure of the Israeli crossing in the south into Gaza and hopes a U.S.-constructed floating pier will be operational as soon as early next week, Peter Lerner, an Israeli military spokesman, said Monday.

The Wall Street Journal previously reported that Israel has responded to U.S. and international pressure by scrapping plans for an all-out assault of Rafah and instead plans to launch its operation in phases, evacuating neighborhoods before moving on to new areas.

Israel’s military said late last month that it had mobilized two reserve brigades, or thousands of soldiers, and deployed them to Gaza. Most of the forces are concentrated in the corridor separating northern and southern Gaza.

Write to Rory Jones at Rory.Jones@wsj.com and Summer Said at summer.said@wsj.com

Corrections & AmplificationsHamas said on Monday that it accepted a cease-fire plan that was proposed by Egypt and Qatar. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said it happened on Tuesday. (Corrected on May 6)

Israel Attacks Rafah, as It Questions Hamas Cease-Fire Terms - WSJ
 

jward

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Hxmas is reportedly contemplating using powerful explosives to destroy sections of the Egypt-Gaza border fence, aiming to provoke a large-scale exodus of Palestinians into Egyptian territory.

This move is speculated to be a strategy to incite chaos and a high civilian death toll, in the hopes of garnering intense global pressure on Israel to halt its operation in Rafah, as per two Palestinian sources familiar with Hxmas' plans, cited by @kann_news

1:27 PM · May 6, 2024
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jward

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Raylan Givens
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The IDF Kfir Brigade commander addressed his men before entering Rafah: “For the second time in a year, it is my greatest merit to lead you into battle and to fight together. On this day 80 years ago, the Nazis led Jews to the ovens for the sole crime of being Jewish.

Today, at the end of Holocaust Memorial Day, we, the IDF, are going on the offensive to attack and to win. Never again is NOW in our hands, for our people who need us and for our brothers and sisters, the hostages who are beginning to hear again that THE IDF IS ARRIVING. For the State of Israel, with determination and courage, without compromise, I believe in and am proud of every one of you. We are writing history today, Am Israel Chai! We don’t have any other country. All stations, this is the Commander, onwards and after me until the end, until victory, until we win.

ON MY COMMAND, GO!
View: https://twitter.com/JewishWarrior13/status/1787591625687826576
 

Housecarl

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ok. nuff nonsense for me for a minute.
Clownshow is being far too polite.


Nick Sortor
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REPORTER: "Madam Vice President, Hamas says it accepted a ceasefire deal. Your reaction?"

HARRIS: "Shrimp and grits!"

The White House is a freaking clown show.
View: https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1787538640228294916

Merde..............Even so, it was still more coherent than anything you'd get out of Biden......
 

somewherepress

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A vehicle in a Saudi Royal Guard convoy was damaged by an explosion in Riyadh. There are victims. Details unknown
View: https://twitter.com/Sprinter00000/status/1787593869959340463
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Unconfirmed Reports tonight that a Heavily-Armed Security Convoy carrying the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman and several other High-Ranking Officials was Attacked earlier tonight within the Capital of Riyadh, in what appears to have been an Assassination Attempt against the Crown Prince. The Attack is claimed to have Killed several Members of the Saudi Royal Guard, but the Prince was Unharmed.


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phloydius

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Israeli Forces are likely now in Control of the entire “Philadelphi Corridor” from the Israeli Border up to the Rafah Border Crossing with Egypt.
5:08 PM · May 6, 2024




BREAKING NEWS - ALERTS
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Israeli Forces supported by Tanks and Armored Vehicles have reportedly now Captured the Rafah Border Crossing between Egypt and Gaza; this was likely always to be the First Objective of any IDF Ground Operation in Rafah, in order to prevent Hamas Members from Fleeing into Egypt.

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somewherepress

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Unconfirmed Reports tonight that a Heavily-Armed Security Convoy carrying the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman and several other High-Ranking Officials was Attacked earlier tonight within the Capital of Riyadh, in what appears to have been an Assassination Attempt against the Crown Prince. The Attack is claimed to have Killed several Members of the Saudi Royal Guard, but the Prince was Unharmed.


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I have Removed my earlier Post regarding the Assassination Attempt on the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman due to me not being able to find any other Information or Evidence of any kind of Attack tonight in Riyadh. If anything changes I will make another Post.


5:11 PM · May 6, 2024
 

Housecarl

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Unconfirmed Reports tonight that a Heavily-Armed Security Convoy carrying the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman and several other High-Ranking Officials was Attacked earlier tonight within the Capital of Riyadh, in what appears to have been an Assassination Attempt against the Crown Prince. The Attack is claimed to have Killed several Members of the Saudi Royal Guard, but the Prince was Unharmed.


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4:52 PM · May 6, 2024

Oh boy....Expect to see a "house cleaning" and a lot of activity in "chop chop" square in the coming days and weeks....
 

somewherepress

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Seth Frantzman
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Hamas will be distressed that they can’t control all the aid entering Gaza and profit off it and steal it and sell it. Intl orgs that partnered with Hamas will also be distressed that their two decade partnership with this criminal cartel is compromised and they stand to lose millions or billions that they have stolen from aid entering Gaza. The aid factory of theft and profiteering funded Hamas and intl orgs for many years and they require it to continue their criminal enterprise
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Barak Ravid

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BREAKING: Israeli forces are going to take over the Palestinian side of the Rafah crossing between Egypt and Gaza in the next few hours, two sources with direct knowledge told me

5:11 PM · May 6, 2024
 

northern watch

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Without drifting the thread into woo - I will explain that May 7th is a date which dozens of different types of prognosticators, from the mundane (people who look at world events and try to see where they are leading) to astrologers, psychics, and some remote viewers tagged on or around May 7th for things to "Kick Off." Or "Something very Big either economic or military will start."

Normally I don't post such things on the main, and any further discussion should probably be in the Woo Room. But I saw the time and date. It gave me chills.
Maybe not woo

Mr Skibitsky told the Economist that the Russian army is under orders to “take something” in time for Victory Day celebrations on May 9, or, failing that, before Vladimir Putin’s visit to Beijing a week later.
 

Landcruiser

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I just read an article on the violence that happened against women in the initial attack. I don't have words to describe the heart break I'm currently feeling. Hamas must be removed from the earth. The kind of evil that was committed on their orders has no place in this world and deserves no quarter. The people who elected them are paying a high price currently, but it is not enough. Hamas must be eradicated from the earth. The kind of violence they used is a cancer on humanity that we cannot allow to exist at a 'state' level. (at any level really... but a 'government' who would allow this at any level needs to be completely dead, burned& Buried)
 
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phloydius

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I'm not quite sure what to make of this, if it is real or not. But it was posted about 6 hours ago.
I looked down the list of Osint613's posts and didn't see anything that jumped out instantly as a scammer, so decided to post this. The video link is under the spoiler below the photo.


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If anyone has seen this video before (and it is not from Gaza), or can debunk it, let me know so I can remove it. Thanks.
 
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Countrymouse

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Unconfirmed Reports tonight that a Heavily-Armed Security Convoy carrying the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman and several other High-Ranking Officials was Attacked earlier tonight within the Capital of Riyadh, in what appears to have been an Assassination Attempt against the Crown Prince. The Attack is claimed to have Killed several Members of the Saudi Royal Guard, but the Prince was Unharmed.


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4:52 PM · May 6, 2024
I really, really do NOT like the direction this thing is going--and I haven't even read to the end of the thread yet....
 

Countrymouse

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Countrymouse

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This war has only begun. Where are the Israeli injuries and deaths??? From where I sit, Iran was only testing Israeli defenses. I was reading Martin Armstrong's private blog and he said the same thing and expects the real war to begin by May 7, according to his computer, Socrates.
Maybe this is part of where the May 7 prediction is coming from--?

I did some more searching, as I know nothing about Martin Armstrong, and it seems you can't get direct access to his site without paying or an Audible subscription (and I thought Audible had gone bankrupt?) but I did manage to find this: (I do not know what an "ECM" is )-- sounds pretty 'vague' to me:
(Integrated Wealth Management - Integrated Wealth Management)

  • Civil unrest in the US is Marty’s biggest near-term concern. As he’s said publicly, the next key date on the ECM is May 7/8, 2024. He mused that this will likely involve Trump’s legal challenges and the effects on his very loyal MAGA voter base. Regardless of who is declared the winner, the losing side will not accept the result. Hopefully there’s no major domestic terror attack that gets used as the pretext to bring back mail-in ballots, or in a worst case scenario to delay or suspend their elections.
  • In a subsequent public blog post, a reader pointed out that May 8th is also the date of the inauguration of the Russian Federation. This is obviously troubling, but something else of significance could also occur on those dates. Not even Marty knows in advance what the important event will actually be..just that the date is significant. (according to whom?)
 
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SageRock

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From a search, it appears that "ECM" for Martin Armstrong is "Economic Confidence Model."

Martin Armstrong created a computer software modeling program called "Socrates," which produces these predictions and significant dates. He's been working with this since the 1990's.
 
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