EDUC Native Americans Wrote in Ancient Hebrew...Glen Beck

Glenn takes a look at Indian artifacts from dating from around 800 BC.



Pay attention to the FAUX update scroll that is at the bottom of this video.Read all of what it is saying as this is an old GB clip.

I am not a Beck follower but I am Native. Not all of the 'spiel' is correct but for the most part it is a good clip like at about 07:21 into the clip.

The ancient artifact from the Native Americans is written in Hebrew but was put in a box,at the 'Smithsonian Institute' and 'forgot' about for about 500 years (WOW) sic

~MCA :wvflg:
 
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shinerbock

Innocent Bystander
Glen's Middle Name Is "Hyperbole".

Pretty amazing considering the Smithsonian Institute was established 165 years ago. :whistle:


I've heard various versions of Jesus having been in the Yucutan Peninsula or Ancient Israelites having been the first to discover the western hemisphere etc; anything to create an illusion of or connection to the Judeo-Christian roots of Moromonism [there are none and why do they feel the need to present it so - Christianity is quite the inclusive religion in recent times].

Glen has his moments but in this genre, he's all wet. :screw:
 
Pretty amazing considering the Smithsonian Institute was established 165 years ago. :whistle:


I've heard various versions of Jesus having been in the Yucutan Peninsula or Ancient Israelites having been the first to discover the western hemisphere etc; anything to create an illusion of or connection to the Judeo-Christian roots of Moromonism [there are none and why do they feel the need to present it so - Christianity is quite the inclusive religion in recent times].

Glen has his moments but in this genre, he's all wet. :screw:
Politics & Religion took GB mind...IF He really had one OR GB was a 'Murdock Puppet',imho.

Probably all of the above.
~MCA
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Glenn takes a look at Indian artifacts from dating from around 800 BC.



Pay attention to the FAUX update scroll that is at the bottom of this video.Read all of what it is saying as this is an old GB clip.

I am not a Beck follower but I am Native. Not all of the 'spiel' is correct but for the most part it is a good clip like at about 07:21 into the clip.

The ancient artifact from the Native Americans is written in Hebrew but was put in a box,at the 'Smithsonian Institute' and 'forgot' about for about 500 years (WOW) sic

~MCA :wvflg:

We did??? That's news to me! :shr:
 
We did??? That's news to me! :shr:
lol
Love the bought & paid for Main Stream Media.

I was listening to a radio host today that said the reason She doesn't like Birds (Aviaries) is because of the movie 'The Birds' and this was a PHD speaking.

I thought to myself, "WOW, you are a Dr... BUTTTT you are allowing a 'Movie' to control your emotions"..

Talk about Sheeple..
Educated fools walk among us.
~MCA
 
Glen Beck saw this documentary a month before he brought it up on his show.


Good Video EW.

GB lost me many moons ago after about the 2nd Show,when He was with FAUX.
And during the TPM when He started getting the trembling Lips and the pi$$ing out from His eyes...that was it..Over.

Pitiful.
~MCA
 

Giskard

Only human
Bunk! The only native Americans that developed an advanced written language were the Cherokees. Sequoia was the Chief who developed the alphabet and you can still get classes today to speak it, read it and write it.

Beck is reaching here because he is Mormon. Joseph Smith erroneously taught that Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel and that Jesus came here too. Bunk! For one thing, genetically, Native Americans are Mongoloid in extraction. Hebrews are Caucasoid in extraction. So much for Joseph Smith, Mormonism and Beck.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Bunk! The only native Americans that developed an advanced written language were the Cherokees. Sequoia was the Chief who developed the alphabet and you can still get classes today to speak it, read it and write it.

Beck is reaching here because he is Mormon. Joseph Smith erroneously taught that Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel and that Jesus came here too. Bunk! For one thing, genetically, Native Americans are Mongoloid in extraction. Hebrews are Caucasoid in extraction. So much for Joseph Smith, Mormonism and Beck.

Hence my comment earlier. Eastern nations don't have nearly as concentrated mongoloid extraction as central and western nations do. There could have been some intermixing with euro's that fled and somehow survived a voyage across the atlantic via dingy, etc. it's been proven to be doable, the risks are high, but it is doable.

K-
 

Fred's Horseradish

Membership Revoked
Bunk! The only native Americans that developed an advanced written language were the Cherokees. Sequoia was the Chief who developed the alphabet and you can still get classes today to speak it, read it and write it.

Beck is reaching here because he is Mormon. Joseph Smith erroneously taught that Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel and that Jesus came here too. Bunk! For one thing, genetically, Native Americans are Mongoloid in extraction. Hebrews are Caucasoid in extraction. So much for Joseph Smith, Mormonism and Beck.

I took 2 years of Hebrew. If they showed me the material, I could argue with them. Have several Hebrew Bibles on the shelf.
 

PresterJohn

Membership Revoked
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And was the Holy Lamb of God
On England’s pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.
-------------------------------------------

NO!
 

jtlc001

Contributing Member
Right or wrong

Well, at least keep an open mind and try not to speak in ignorance.

Go to link to see pic.
This link will carry you to other finds here in the US.

The above inscription is very unique for several reasons. First, it is written in an ancient Hebrew script. Second it is located near the small town of Los Lunas in the State of New Mexico, USA. Third, the inscription is of the "Ten Commandments".

Is this inscription an original or a fake. If it is original, this proves that a Semitic people, probably Hebrews, arrived in the Americas long before Columbus or the Vikings.

The above inscription cannot be a fake for the following reasons. The actual time of discovery of the inscription is not known but was known by the locals as far back as the 1850's. At that time, the script of the text was unknown and therefore undecipherable. It was not until this last century that the ancient Hebrew (paleo-Hebrew) script was discovered in the Near East. Once this ancient script was discovered the Los Lunas inscription could be deciphered and was found to be a copy of the "Ten Commandments".

When we compare the script on the Los Lunas inscription with the above inscription found in 1993 at Tell Dan in the land of Israel, we find that the scripts are almost identical. Below is a comparison of the scripts from both inscriptions.


The Tel Dan inscription was written around 1000 BCE. Since the Los Lunas inscription uses the same script, it is safe to conclude that the Los Lunas inscription was written by a Hebrew people about 3,000 years ago. Other ancient Hebrew inscriptions have been found around the country including Tenessee and the Mississippi Valley. The "Archeological Outliers Homepage" includes other ancient Hebrew artifacts found in the United States. The article "Who Really Discovered America?" also includes some very interesting information on the Los Lunas inscriptions as well as other finds and includes a possible link between the Gold of Solomon and the Gold of Brazil

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/15_loslunas.html
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Bunk! The only native Americans that developed an advanced written language were the Cherokees. Sequoia was the Chief who developed the alphabet and you can still get classes today to speak it, read it and write it.

Beck is reaching here because he is Mormon. Joseph Smith erroneously taught that Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel and that Jesus came here too. Bunk! For one thing, genetically, Native Americans are Mongoloid in extraction. Hebrews are Caucasoid in extraction. So much for Joseph Smith, Mormonism and Beck.

Giskard, are you including the Ashkenazi in your Amerinds statements?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Well, at least keep an open mind and try not to speak in ignorance.

Go to link to see pic.
This link will carry you to other finds here in the US.

The above inscription is very unique for several reasons. First, it is written in an ancient Hebrew script. Second it is located near the small town of Los Lunas in the State of New Mexico, USA. Third, the inscription is of the "Ten Commandments".

Is this inscription an original or a fake. If it is original, this proves that a Semitic people, probably Hebrews, arrived in the Americas long before Columbus or the Vikings.

The above inscription cannot be a fake for the following reasons. The actual time of discovery of the inscription is not known but was known by the locals as far back as the 1850's. At that time, the script of the text was unknown and therefore undecipherable. It was not until this last century that the ancient Hebrew (paleo-Hebrew) script was discovered in the Near East. Once this ancient script was discovered the Los Lunas inscription could be deciphered and was found to be a copy of the "Ten Commandments".

When we compare the script on the Los Lunas inscription with the above inscription found in 1993 at Tell Dan in the land of Israel, we find that the scripts are almost identical. Below is a comparison of the scripts from both inscriptions.


The Tel Dan inscription was written around 1000 BCE. Since the Los Lunas inscription uses the same script, it is safe to conclude that the Los Lunas inscription was written by a Hebrew people about 3,000 years ago. Other ancient Hebrew inscriptions have been found around the country including Tenessee and the Mississippi Valley. The "Archeological Outliers Homepage" includes other ancient Hebrew artifacts found in the United States. The article "Who Really Discovered America?" also includes some very interesting information on the Los Lunas inscriptions as well as other finds and includes a possible link between the Gold of Solomon and the Gold of Brazil

http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/15_loslunas.html



Well if you believe that the planet was comprised of one "contintent" at one time way back and split apart at the time of Peleg then it's entirely possible that sometime after the flood one of Noah's descendants settled in the area. Anything is possible.

K-
 

ncmissouri

Veteran Member
And in that same vein, Phoenicians were world travelers. They got around. Our Methodist minister said that they are still finding previously undiscovered Phoenician stuff all over the world. They must have been the ones who brought so many neat things back for Solomon's temple. There's some who say the gold from Ophir was a form of the words similar to Old Peru! They do have gold mines in Peru. If anybody wants sites, I'll try to bring them up. However, that being said, I don't believe the Native Americans were Hebrews. They might have been visited by earlier peoples, but their DNA clearly shows the Native Americans are tribes very different from those of Hebrews.
 

msswv123

Veteran Member
Not to bash but it is a Mormon thing.

Native Americans are the Lost Tribe of Israel according to founder John Smith.

I think you mean one of the lost tribes of Israel~ there are 10 and it's not just a mormon thing. There have been quite a few investigations into that question~


The History Channel's recent documentary, Who Really Discovered America? asks some profound questions. Chief Joe Sitting Owl of the Central Band of Cherokee explains Cherokee oral history and tradition that they are from Jewish ancestry.

Light skinned, the Cherokee don't look like most Native Americans of Asian ancestry. The Bat Creek stone, archaeologically removed from a Hopewell burial mound by the Smithsonian, has inscribed in ancient Hebrew the phrase "For Judea" or "For the Judeans."

Only 3% of Chief Sitting Owls tribe had Jewish DNA, but 94% of those tested in the Central Band showed European DNA that goes back thousands of years. It is not widely known that haplogroup X is one of the 12 primary Jewish lineages, and is found in the Cherokee.

 

bw

Fringe Ranger
I was listening to a radio host today that said the reason She doesn't like Birds (Aviaries) is because of the movie 'The Birds' and this was a PHD speaking.

I thought to myself, "WOW, you are a Dr... BUTTTT you are allowing a 'Movie' to control your emotions"..

Having a phd doesn't make one rational in all things, no reason to think it would. Everyone has demons.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And was the Holy Lamb of God
On England’s pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.
-------------------------------------------

NO!

I thought those words sounded familiar...

 

Shinmen Takezo

Membership Revoked
Beck is reaching here because he is Mormon. Joseph Smith erroneously taught that Native Americans are the lost tribe of Israel and that Jesus came here too. Bunk! For one thing, genetically, Native Americans are Mongoloid in extraction. Hebrews are Caucasoid in extraction. So much for Joseph Smith, Mormonism and Beck.

Regarding this above--read this below...

Mormon Scientist, Church Clash Over DNA Test
Anthropologist may be ousted for questioning teachings about Native American ancestry.

Los Angeles Times/December 8, 2002
By William Lobdell and Larry B. Stammer

Anthropologist Thomas W. Murphy set out to test a key principle of his Mormon faith with the latest technology.

He wondered: Would DNA analysis show -- as taught by the Book of Mormon -- that many American Indians are descended from ancient Israelites?

His finding: negative.

The result: excommunication -- if a church disciplinary panel today finds him guilty of apostasy.

The sacred writings of many faiths make claims that might not stand up to scientific tests. But most faiths avoid conflict with scholarship either because their claims relate to events too far in the past to be tested or because they have reinterpreted their scriptural claims as metaphors, rather than assertions of literal fact.


http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon86.html
 

ncmissouri

Veteran Member
Wikipedia: Ophir--
"On the other hand, the theologian Benito Arias Montano (1571) proposed finding Ophir in the name of Peru, reasoning that the native Peruvians were thus descendants of Ophir and Shem. He also claimed, that the province of Iucatan, had the same name that Ioktan father of Ophir.

Proponents of pre-Columbian connections between Eurasia and the Americas have suggested even more distant locations such as modern-day Peru or Brazil."

and . . . from Phoenicia.org:
"Navigation and Seafaring
For the establishment of commercial supremacy, an essential constituent was the Phoenician skill in navigation and seafaring. The Phoenicians are credited with the discovery and use of Polaris (the Pole Star). Fearless and patient navigators, they ventured into regions where no one else dared to go, and always, with an eye to their monopoly, they carefully guarded the secrets of their trade routes and discoveries and their knowledge of winds and currents. Pharaoh Necho II (610-595 BC) organized the Phoenician circumnavigation of Africa (Herodotus, iv, 42). Hanno, a Carthaginian, led another in the mid-5th century. The Carthaginians seem to have reached the island of Corvo in the Azores; and Britain. Some archeologists suggest that the Phoenicians may have reached America before the Vikings and/or Columbus? The hypothesis is based on inscriptions found in the Americas (including Brazil) and seemed to represent a Phoenician script. However, others find the hypothesis unfounded."



Read more: Phoenicia, Phoenician Trade & Ships http://phoenicia.org/trade.html#ixzz20eh9gQy8
 

Disciple

Veteran Member
Anyone besides me have questions about dating things back so many hundreds or thousands of years? Should we assume they have this science down pat?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Anyone besides me have questions about dating things back so many hundreds or thousands of years? Should we assume they have this science down pat?

again it all depends if you buy the pangea theory or not, if you do then anything is possible, if not then well hey look there's a flock of pigs flying down my street!

K-
 

Ranger

Membership Revoked
Must be why the Russian Orthodox Apostle to America,
Ivan Veniaminov painstakingly translated the New Testament
into Tlingit and Upik in The Great Land of Alaska.

In 1994 The Russian Orthodox church commemorated 200
years of Orthodoxy in Alaska.

Beck is a distraction. Maybe he'll read from the Book of Mormon
on air next and speak of all the fictitious geographic place
names so entered into that work by Joseph Smith who also
promulgated such notions that native Americans traced their
lineages to one of the lost tribes of Israel.

Ranger
 

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Laurane

Canadian Loonie
The Book of Mormon is a family/political/military record andcovers two main immigrations from the middle east - the Jaredites in 2200BC and the Lehites in 600BC until about 600 BC.......during that time all manner of ethnic groups probably came to the North American continent from Asia, the isles of the Seas, and Europe, maybe even Africa.

What GB is saying is that the two above mentioned groups had a family history they carried down through the generations which explained what was going on with their particular groups and those they came in contact with. Jesus visited these people (and maybe others too) and that is recorded in the Book of Mormon.......not too surprising as they descended from His covenant people and He gave them the help they needed to cross the oceans to their new home - America.

The other groups would have spoken any other language but Hebrew/Aramaic, so any hebrew writings found would "belong" to one of the two groups.
 

If you are refering to the Balsic boulder which has the 10 commandments carved into it (located just west of Las Lunas, NM.). Pard; I have been to that boulder and fwiw it is worth. The very FIRST Spanich expedition from Mexico in the 15 hundreds where the first "old world explorers to discover that boulder w/it's cavings of the ten commandments. To that you can add the ancient Hebrew carvings to be found in "Hyroglyic Canyon" in the Arizona Superstition Mountains.

The Flying Dutchman



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homepark

Resist
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And was the Holy Lamb of God
On England’s pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.
-------------------------------------------

NO!

Blasphemy on your "NO!" lol. "Jerusalem" reminds me of "The Proms". A lovely anthem.

Oh, and a few pub crawls in the UK.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Only 3% of Chief Sitting Owls tribe had Jewish DNA, but 94% of those tested in the Central Band showed European DNA that goes back thousands of years. It is not widely known that haplogroup X is one of the 12 primary Jewish lineages, and is found in the Cherokee.

I think it is possible for a small sect of Hebrews to have been somewhere in the US at some time because sailing was the normal mode of transportation until recent times. However, I do not believe they would have mixed blood with anyone, as they maintained their national and cultural identity as a whole for millennia as God said they would. I bring this up because of the claims of an African group who claimed they were Jewish, and were ridiculed for it. DNA tests proved they were indeed Jewish, but they still held traditional religious services and rituals and had not fallen away from that. They were still Hebrew.

If American Indians were Hebrew, they would still be acting and believing in the Hebrew Torh, instead of their often satanic beliefs and rituals. And most would be drawn to move to their Homeland, Israel, as God has gathered others there, just as prophesied.

If there were a tiny group of preColumbian Hebrews in the US, they may have maintained autonomy and were overtaken and killed, or they may have been captured and enslaved (slave life was extremely harsh), which would explain a minute trace of DNA in some modern day Indians, and the lack of religious traditions being kept, but it's also possible that modern day Indians with Hebrew DNA have a more recent Hebrew ancestor from the period of westward expansion.

Anything is possible when you don't have all the facts, but I find the likelihood of Hebrews intermingling and dropping every vestige of their faith unlikely. Indians remain a superstitious lot, they would have incorporated a good portion of Hebrew traditions into their beliefs and rituals, just as they have where Catholic missionaries reached them 200 years ago, and I have never seen any of that. Not saying it's not there, I just have not seen it.
 

Shinmen Takezo

Membership Revoked
The Book of Mormon is a family/political/military record andcovers two main immigrations from the middle east - the Jaredites in 2200BC and the Lehites in 600BC until about 600 BC.......during that time all manner of ethnic groups probably came to the North American continent from Asia, the isles of the Seas, and Europe, maybe even Africa.

This whole thing of Hebrews in the North American Continent is not a novel idea.
It was not even a novel (original) idea before and at the time when the Book Of Mormon was released.

There were other such books written on the subject in the early 19th century--before the Book of Mormon was released.

Rev. Solomon Spaulding created (perhaps two) a manuscript entitled, "Manuscript Found" and a revise entitled, "Manuscript Story" --which is a tale of Jews migrating to the new world. Before he died, Spaulding swore that another pastor who hung about his publisher's premises, stole his manscript... this guys name was Rev. Sidney Rigdon (more on this later).

Here's a link to Spaulding work which surfaced a few decades ago...

http://www.angelfire.com/az2/arizonadry/truth/spalding.html

There was another popular book published entitled, "A View Of The Hebrews" by Ethan Smith.

This too had the premise that ancient Hebrews came to the new world, and this book was widely published and circulated in the area where Joe Smith resided, and also Ethan Smith was the pastor of Oliver Cowdrey's family church, and Oliver Cowdrey (scribe for the BOM) was Joe Smith's cousin.

Both of these works served as the inspiration for the Book Of Mormon. Apologists for the LDS always like to point out that a "young man with no education could not possibly write such an extensive, detailed pieces of literature such as the Book Of Mormon" --and they are absolutely correct in this statement that Joesph Smith could not possibly concoct such a piece of literature. I agree completely, Joseph Smith did not write the Boom Of Mormon.

Another man of that time wrote the Book Of Mormon... his name was Rev. Sidney Rigdon. This was the same man who was accused by Solomon Spaulding of purloining his manuscript. If you look at both the Spaulding and Smith books, you will see that they bear little in resemblance to the BOM, in that they are historical accounts, not written as scripture in the King James Bible. One of them interestingly has a section where the key character claims to find the book (metal plates BTW) "hidden in a hill, inside a stone box."

Here is a new interesting book written about the subject of the origins of the BOM.
One of the authors is a descendent of Oliver Cowdery BTW....

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Wrote-Book-Mormon/dp/0758605277

I find it no cooincidence that one of the very first converts to the new LDS Church was non other than Sydney Rigdon himself. I also find it interesting that Sydney Rigdon before the BOM was released preached in his church that a "new gospel will soon be discovered." New revelations also show that Rigdon also frequented the Smith household long before the BOM was released and was on good terms with the family. And finally, after Rigdon's conversion to this "new church" he rose to the number 2 slot right under Smith immediately--and stayed there until the Navoo period and Smith's death.

I firmly believe that Rigdon (a dour, un-charismatic person) wrote the Book Of Mormon and then used Joesph Smith's known reputation at the time as a "semi-seerer/folk magic person" to release the Book Of Mormon in order to start a new religion. Smith was the likeable con-artist at the time, and Rigdon was the brains behind the operation. Many times in this early church it seemed to members that is was actually Rigdon who ran things--and the prophets words were spoken by Rigdon to members. It was a financial scam from the beginning with their revelation called "the law of consecration" to gain hold of new converts property and finances. Read up on how the "Bank Of Kirkland" failed--and who were the top two administrators of this entity. Missouri and Navoo were the next stops on the train.

Rigdon was planning to use Smith as these modern day tent-revival preachers use "Child preachers" and "healers" and other such gimicks. But as their membership grew, it was Smith's more likeable personality which won the day in the struggle for power.

Just pointn' out some stuff here.

ST
 

Shinmen Takezo

Membership Revoked
I think it is possible for a small sect of Hebrews to have been somewhere in the US at some time because sailing was the normal mode of transportation until recent times. However, I do not believe they would have mixed blood with anyone, as they maintained their national and cultural identity as a whole for millennia as God said they would. I bring this up because of the claims of an African group who claimed they were Jewish, and were ridiculed for it. DNA tests proved they were indeed Jewish, but they still held traditional religious services and rituals and had not fallen away from that. They were still Hebrew.

It's possible, yes.
Is it probable, most likely not.

The Japanese have more connections to the Ancient Jew however, than most anyone believe.

Take for instance the "Shinto" religion.
Shinto is actually the ancient Hebrew religion, frozen in time circa Joseph and Pharoh.

There is one very ancient Shinto Shrine in Japan--and inside its alter, inside the capsule there is a silver disc, and on the back of this dic are the words "I Am" written in Hebrew circa the time of Joseph in Egypt.

It is know that Joesph literally ran Eqypt for Pharoh, and that he sent out ambassabors to the entire world (Jews, because they also dominated the beurocracy) and most likely also their Priests.

If you take a close look at Shinto ceremonies/rites, they are identical to ancient Jewish rites (pre-Moses), un-hewn altars, leaves sprinkeling the altar with water and so on down the line.

Also ancient Japanese writing (Hi-rah-ga-nah) is quite similar to ancient Egyptian Hiratic writing. There are many more simularities.

ST
 

Limner

Deceased
Almost exactly a year ago, I had a conversation with the Mediwin of a Cherokee tribe that we signed a treaty with, a few years ago. We talked about this very subject.

He made a very reasonable case for his tribes Hebrew heritage. How many aspects of their worship of the Creator are very much like those of the Hebrews, as well as dietary and other laws. We chatted for an hour; it was an amazing conversation.

Didn't have anything to do with Mormanism.

I have no reason to believe that he was lying to me.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
Sidney Rigdon may have purloined the Spaulding manuscript and passed it off as B of M, but it had nothing to do with the literal translation of the golden plates. Rigdon was a bit of a nutcase later in life LOL
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
There is one very ancient Shinto Shrine in Japan--and inside its alter, inside the capsule there is a silver disc, and on the back of this dic are the words "I Am" written in Hebrew circa the time of Joseph in Egypt.
ST

It is a mirror, not a silver disk, which no one has proven has this on it.

http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/tribesjapan.htm

"Among them, the mirror called "Yata-no-kagami" (mirror of Yata) is placed in "Ise-jingu" which is the Shinto shrine for the Imperial House. In fact, there is a rumor that God's name is written in Hebrew on the back of this holy mirror. This mirror is regarded to be very holy and no one is permitted to see it usually. But there are some people who insist that they have seen it.

About a hundred years ago, Arinori Mori, the Minister of Education, Culture, and Science of Japan at that time, insisted that he saw the back of the holy mirror. He said that on it written in Hebrew was the God's name "I AM THAT I AM", that is, the name which God spoke to Moses (Exodus 3:14). Of course, like all legends there is no verifiable proof that this was ever said by Arinori, who was a known Christian, according to Patrick Smith, "Japan: A Reinterpretation". This is the same for the rest of the claims for people who saw this mirror. - WNS


After World War Two, Dr. Sakon, a professor from Aoyama-gakuin University, stated that he had seen a replica of the mirror which was placed in the Imperial Palace. He said that on it written in Hebrew was God's name "I AM THAT I AM".

Later, it is said that Yutaro Yano, a passionate Shinto believer, saw the mirror and transcribed the patterns of the back of the holy mirror. Yano asked a priest at Ise-jingu again and again if he could look at the mirror. The priest moved by Yano's passion, secretly permitted him to look at the mirror, and Yano carefully copied the pattern off the back of the mirror.

This copy has been maintained for years in a Shinto group named "Shinsei-Ryujinkai" which is run by Yano's daughter. It had been held in secret by the group. But later they say that there was "god's revelation" to show the copy to His Highness Mikasanomiya, a younger brother of the Emperor Hirohito (Showa Tennoh). Mr. Wadoh Kohsaka, who is a Shinto researcher, had a role in handing it to Mikasanomiya. After that, Kohsaka decided to show the copy to the public in his book, for he thought it was important for the Japanese to know the truth. The book was published several years ago.

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"Some people suggest that the 7 letters inside the central circle of the mirror might be read as "I AM THAT I AM" - in Hebrew "eheyeh asher eheyeh," reading "eheyeh" two times. Other suggest that they could be read as "Yahweh's light," - in Hebrew "or Yahweh" ("Or" means light). If they could be read "Yahweh's light," it might be the reason why the god of the Imperial House is called "Amaterasu" which means the god of light or god of the sun. The god of the Imperial House of Japan may have originally the God of the Bible, but later the faith in Him got mixed with the belief in "Amaterasu." People started to call the god of the Imperial House "Amaterasu," because on the mirror was written "Yahweh's light" (Psalm 36:9, 84:11.) "


You can also see many of the same claims, again without verification of any type, in "Rediscovering Japan, Reintroducing Christendom: Two Thousand Years of Christian History in Japan ", written by Samuel Lee, as well as on other web sites supporting the belief.
 
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