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The UAE just experienced its highest rainfall in 75 years, with parts of Dubai receiving over 5 inches (127 mm) of rain in just 24 hours. This extreme event highlights the urgent need to adapt to climate change impacts. #UAEWeather #ClimateChange

Flooding in Dubai, where last year's COP28 was held, underscores the vulnerability of arid regions to intense rainfall. Let's work together towards climate resilience and adaptation strategies. #ClimateAction #Adaptation

Our thoughts are with those affected by flooding across the region. Climate fluctuations are real, and we must act swiftly to mitigate their impact. Stay safe, everyone. #ClimateCrisis #WeatherAlert
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
Until this week, I always gave this topic a jaundiced "fish-eye". The more they cry conspiracy the more I'm willing to believe it...

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How Cloud Seeding Works and Why It’s Wrongly Blamed for Floods From Dubai to California​







BY KOH EWE
APRIL 17, 2024 7:45 AM EDT
In a place as dry as the desert city of Dubai, whenever they can get rain, they’ll take it.
United Arab Emirates authorities will often even try to make it rain—as they did earlier this week when the National Center of Meteorology dispatched planes to inject chemicals into the clouds to try to coax some showering.

But this time they got much more than they wanted. Dubai faced torrential downpours on Tuesday, with flooding shutting down much of the city, including schools and its major airport—killing at least one man whose car was swept away as well as at least 18 others in neighboring Oman, including a bus full of schoolchildren.
The UAE government media office said it was the heaviest rainfall recorded in 75 years and called it “an exceptional event.” More than a typical year’s worth of water was dumped on the country in a single day.

Now, many people are pointing a finger at the “cloud seeding” operations preceding the precipitation.
“Do you think the Dubai floods might have something to do with this?” popular social media account Wide Awake Media asked on X, alongside a clip of a news report on the UAE’s weather modification program.
But experts say that while cloud seeding may have enhanced the rainfall, pinning such a devastating downpour on it is misguided.
“It is very unlikely that cloud seeding would cause a flood,” Roslyn Prinsley, the head of disaster solutions at the Australian National University Institute for Climate, Energy and Disaster Solutions, tells TIME, describing such claims as “conspiracy theories.”

It’s not the first time cloud seeding has been blamed for floods—in Dubai and around the world. In February, social media users charged officials working on a cloud seeding pilot program in California with causing storms that hit the state, despite the technology not even being used before the storms in question. And in Australia in 2022, as the nation down under experienced record rainfall, social media users recirculated an old news clip that questioned if there was a link between cloud seeding and flooding—to which fact-checkers answered: there isn’t.

Here’s what to know about cloud seeding, how and whether it even works, and what scientists say people should actually be worried about.

How does cloud seeding work?​

Cloud seeding basically works by artificially recreating the process by which rain and snow naturally occur: In normal clouds, microscopic droplets of water vapor are attracted to atmospheric aerosols like dust or pollen or salt from the sea. When enough water droplets converge around these nuclei, they form ice crystals and fall.
Clouds are seeded, typically by specially equipped aircraft but also by ground-based generators, by implanting particles, commonly silver iodide, in and around selected clouds to act as nuclei and trigger the precipitation process.

Does cloud seeding even work?​

Since the futuristic-sounding weather modification technique was introduced in the 1940s, it has been used regularly across the world, from the UAE to China to the United States, for a wide range of intended purposes. Mostly employed by governments grappling with drought, cloud seeding has even found itself a part of some of the biggest events in history, from clearing urban pollution and ensuring blue skies at the 2008 Beijing Olympics, to staving away Moscow-bound radioactive clouds in the wake of a nuclear disaster in Chernobyl, to hampering the movement of U.S. enemies during the war in Vietnam. (Weather modification in warfare has since been banned by the U.N.)
For decades, a rain-scarce UAE has invested heavily in cloud seeding, including granting permanent residency to experts, and funding research programs to better identify the seedability of clouds.
But the science on just how effective cloud seeding is remains inconclusive. In 2003, the U.S. National Research Council concluded that “there still is no convincing scientific proof” of its efficacy at the time. A landmark 2020 study, however, found that cloud seeding does work—but researchers are clear about its limitations.
UAE meteorological officials say that their cloud seeding operations can increase rainfall by 10-30%, while Californian authorities’ estimates for their own program sit at 5-10%. The Desert Research Institute (DRI), the state of Nevada’s research group, says cloud seeding can increase seasonal precipitation by about 10%, while the World Meteorological Organization assessed in 2019 that the impacts of cloud seeding range from next to nothing to 20%. And success in producing rain depends significantly on atmospheric conditions such as wind and cloud temperatures.
That’s why experts agree that cloud seeding tends to get a bad rap from the public. Its impact is often overstated, and while it can enhance rainfall, other natural and unnatural factors play a much greater role in causing floods.

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Txkstew

Veteran Member
Back in the late 70's, we had two 100 year floods. Then in 2017, we had Hurricane Harvey cause a 500 year flood here in Southeast Texas. As Stevie Ray Vaughn sang, It's flooding down in Texas, all the telephone lines are down.
 

Murt

Veteran Member
obviously "climate change" is caused by the relocation of millions of illegal aliens
they have migrated in such large numbers it has thrown the planet out of balance causing a 3 degree change in the earths orientation to the sun
just ask hank johnson


ETA---that makes biden's fault
 
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BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Maybe it’s just a little bit of everything and especially the thermo nuclear furnace in the sky. Kinda of like all that rain from Hillary filling in a dead lake bed out west…. :kaid:
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
The climate has been changing since the formation of this planet.....and it will continue to do so until it's demise. How many ice ages has it gone through? How many landmass configurations? How many warm cycles, cold cycles, wet cycles, dry cycles and so on and so on and so on. All loooooong before humans were even a thing on the planet.

What concerns me more than anything else people might be worried about is HOW HUMANS ARE POISONING THE PLANET!! That's what we need to be SERIOUSLY worried about. All the Forever Plastics, Chemicals, Toxins, Radioactive crap, just plain garbage that HUMANS are covering the planet with. We're poisoning the AIR, LAND, WATER, RIVERS, OCEANS and EVEN NEAR SPACE!!!

THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING..............................!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
One way or another something has changed in the last 12 months. I don't bother watching the weather forecasts anymore, not even close here in AR. We are about low average on rainfall and solar production is following year over year average but lots of wind events.

Check out the dust bowl era for similar weather conditions. These weather events are cyclical.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
One way or another something has changed in the last 12 months. I don't bother watching the weather forecasts anymore, not even close here in AR. We are about low average on rainfall and solar production is following year over year average but lots of wind events.

Michigan just had the mildest winter it's seen in years. I hear rain on the roof in January I KNOW something's amiss.
 

The Mountain

Here since the beginning
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Back in 1990, during Desert Storm in Saudi Arabia, the northern regions of SA received several weeks of rain, a once-in-a-hundred-years event. There were huge areas of standing water out in the desert. Also, the Arabic word "wadi" refers to what are basically large dry riverbeds throughout the desert, and every once in a while, water flows through them. This rain in UAE is very rare, but not unprecedented. It's obviously the first time since they converted so much of the desert from loose permeable sand to hard concrete.
 

Mtsilverback

Veteran Member
I was at work on Feb. 4th during a fair rain shower, when I went out in the parking lot and it was covered with night crawlers. Now, this is the Rocky Mountains, just a few miles from Canada! This is something I had never expected too see. Rain in Feb. is not that unusual. But night crawlers? Not saying it had never happened before, but.
 

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
If the "major changes" that are coming are known to at least "some", what better way to both push an agenda, as well as fear, than to blame it on something that looks like it is your fault, and not a naturally occurring cycle (or at least a known event that will be coming).

What everyone is seeing now is just the start of the fun.

As I mentioned before "Black Whole Sun" isn't the name of a song. Our Sun is on a buildup, and very few people are openly mentioning it in the scientific world. We all know what happens when a sunspot occurs, and the usually occurring CME that happens afterwards. Imagine what would happen if our Sun did a 360°x360° sunspot for a few days. Imagine the heat buildup not just in one area, but the whole surface. Imagine the freakout during those few days. Now imagine the release....

GYSER
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
If the "major changes" that are coming are known to at least "some", what better way to both push an agenda, as well as fear, than to blame it on something that looks like it is your fault, and not a naturally occurring cycle (or at least a known event that will be coming).

What everyone is seeing now is just the start of the fun.

As I mentioned before "Black Whole Sun" isn't the name of a song. Our Sun is on a buildup, and very few people are openly mentioning it in the scientific world. We all know what happens when a sunspot occurs, and the usually occurring CME that happens afterwards. Imagine what would happen if our Sun did a 360°x360° sunspot for a few days. Imagine the heat buildup not just in one area, but the whole surface. Imagine the freakout during those few days. Now imagine the release....

GYSER

The Sun is in the throes of a micro nova, we're going to find out here and real soon! Ben over at SuspiciousObservers, on YT, did a video recently discussing a recent paper where there was a Super Nova not too far away and there was NO gamma radiation release. This is the first ever Super Nova that was documented with no gamma radiation.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
The UAE seeded the clouds that produced the deluge.

You can seed the clouds all you want, if you don't have adequate humidity you won't get rain! The seed the clouds to aid in reducing the heat on the ground. UAE is a huge tourist attraction, it's one part Vegas, one part French Quarter, one part Hollyweird, and one part Disney, as far as the arab world goes. I have several cousins that live there that work on building those huge skyscrapers and boy do they have stories to tell.
 

Toosh

Veteran Member
If you watch MonkeyWerk on YouTube, he tracks these weather modification activities. You can see the tracks where the planes fly and the patterns they fly. Then sure enough a few days later, a few miles downwind there will be strong, unusual, weather patterns.
 

Txkstew

Veteran Member
You can seed the clouds all you want, if you don't have adequate humidity you won't get rain! The seed the clouds to aid in reducing the heat on the ground. UAE is a huge tourist attraction, it's one part Vegas, one part French Quarter, one part Hollyweird, and one part Disney, as far as the arab world goes. I have several cousins that live there that work on building those huge skyscrapers and boy do they have stories to tell.
The Summer I spent in Saudi Arabia was hot and dry, that is until August. The whole Aramco housing Compound, which was huge, is air conditioned by at least 8 big cooling towers, spaced around the community. These are built in big traffic circles. That August, I've never felt humidity that heavy. Not even here in Southeast Texas, and believe me, it gets humid. Cooling towers don't work very well in high humidity, so the air handlers in the houses blew damp, luke warm air. The Persian Gulf is like a bathtub in the Summer, and I guess the prevailing winds blow off the Gulf at times.
 
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