ECON Yellen Orders IRS Not to Ramp Up Middle-Class Audits

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I doubt she has any authority to do this. Mostly it is thunder without any lightning.

Yellen Orders IRS Not to Ramp Up Middle-Class Audits


Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has directed the Internal Revenue Service not to increase its audit rate on households earning less than $400,000 per year.

In a letter to IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig dated Wednesday, Yellen said that “much-needed funding” that will flow to the tax agency as a result of the Inflation Reduction Act — about $80 billion over 10 years, assuming the bill passes the House later this week as expected — will be used “to improve taxpayer service, modernize outdated technological infrastructure, and increase equity in the tax system by enforcing the tax laws against those high-earners, large corporations, and complex partnerships who today do not pay what they owe.”


She also said that not increasing the audit rate on households earning less than $400,000 (a group that sometimes passes for middle-class in Washington) has been “a guiding precept” for the IRS as it plans how to spend the additional funding it expects to receive in the coming years, including roughly $45 billion designated for enforcement.

The IRS plan: “Specifically, I direct that any additional resources—including any new personnel or auditors that are hired—shall not be used to increase the share of small business or households below the $400,000 threshold that are audited relative to historical levels,” Yellen wrote. “This means that, contrary to the misinformation from opponents of this legislation, small business or households earning $400,000 per year or less will not see an increase in the chances that they are audited.”

Instead, Yellen says that additional enforcement capabilities will focus on “high-end noncompliance,” which requires far more time and attention than that given to typical middle- and working-class tax returns. “This is challenging work that requires a team of sophisticated revenue agents in place to spend thousands of hours poring over complicated returns, and it is also work that has huge revenue potential: indeed, an additional hour auditing someone making more than $5 million annually generates an estimated $4,500 of additional taxes collected,” she wrote.


Ultimately, it means that average taxpayers will face less scrutiny, Yellen said. "For regular taxpayers ... the result of this resource infusion will be a lower likelihood of audit by an agency that has the data and technological infrastructure in place to target enforcement resources where they belong—on the high end of the income distribution, where the top 1% alone is estimated to not be paying $160 billion in owed taxes each year,” Yellen wrote. “That’s important as a matter of revenue-raising, but it’s also essential as a matter of fairness.”

Responding to wild claims: The move comes amid grossly exaggerated claims by Republicans that the IRS will use its additional funding to harass middle-class households and small businesses with a “new army of 87,000 IRS agents,” as House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) put it earlier this week, using language that is popular within the GOP. While unlikely to quell what appear to be politically motivated attacks, Yellen’s letter does add to the pile of documents attempting to refute Republicans’ anti-IRS fear-mongering.

Evaluating McCarthy’s claim about that terrifying IRS army, Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler gave the GOP leader a three Pinocchio rating – meaning the statement is “mostly false.”

The 87,000-person force will not be appearing on the horizon any time soon – in fact, it is unlikely ever to assemble. The figure is drawn from a year-old Treasury report that estimates that the IRS could use extra funding to hire about 7,000 to 12,000 people per year to make up for the many cuts in personnel over the last decade, as well as to fill in for the many IRS employees who will be retiring. Kessler notes that more than half of the IRS’s 82,000 employees — a total of 50,000 workers — will be eligible to retire in the next five years.

On top of that, there is no concrete plan to hire 87,000 people, with that number being just a rough estimate. And whatever new hires the agency does make, many won’t be auditors and instead will be focused on implementing new technology and improving customer service.
Rep. Gerry Connolly, a Democrat from Virginia, put it in more direct terms, however partisan, framing the new funding as a necessary part of rebuilding the tax agency. “You are being lied to. There's no army of 87,000 new IRS agents. It's made up,” he wrote on Twitter. “The GOP hollowed out the IRS & slashed its budgets. Rich tax cheats run wild, meanwhile you can't even get someone from the IRS on the phone. We are restoring the agency so it actually works for you.”

 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Rep. Gerry Connolly, a Democrat from Virginia, put it in more direct terms, however partisan, framing the new funding as a necessary part of rebuilding the tax agency. “You are being lied to. There's no army of 87,000 new IRS agents. It's made up,” he wrote on Twitter. “The GOP hollowed out the IRS & slashed its budgets. Rich tax cheats run wild, meanwhile you can't even get someone from the IRS on the phone. We are restoring the agency so it actually works for you.”

So does this mean you're going to go after piglosi and your fellow congress critters? I hear they are some of the biggest tax cheats in the US!
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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The IRS is an agency of Treasury and she is the highest ranking person in Treasury so according to every hierarchical chain of command I have ever been a part of, she would indeed have the authority to do this.

And yet she still supports the requirements of banks to turn over additional information for ALL depositors regardless of socio-economic level. For a fact we have to answer for where the cash comes from on any of accounts regardless of whether they are business or personal. This info is specifically turned over to the IRS.

So if they are not looking for people of any/every socio-economic level, why should she still be supporting the collection of that data for the IRS? Yellen is lying out of her butt.

And the authority to change tax rates, etc. lies in the authority of Congress, not Janet Yellen or Joe Biden so no, Janet Yellen doesn't have the authority she claims to have, not in any constructive way.

Another bit of nonsense is that she has told them not to increase the audit rate of $400K or less. They won't know whether such an increase will occur or not because the files for those individuals haven't come under review. If there are a bunch found in January, they won't suddenly just stop doing it in February. It is nothing but mouth music being parlayed out in the hopes that ignorant people will believe it.

Another ... they can say the "audit rate" didn't increase, but the number of people who failed the audit did.
 

SackLunch

Dirt roads take me home
Quote from OP:
"The IRS plan: “Specifically, I direct that any additional resources—including any new personnel or auditors that are hired—shall not be used to increase the share of small business or households below the $400,000 threshold that are audited relative to historical levels,” Yellen wrote. “This means that, contrary to the misinformation from opponents of this legislation, small business or households earning $400,000 per year or less will not see an increase in the chances that they are audited.”

I see some wiggle words in there....

...e.g. the new hires won't be doing your middle class audit.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Yellin raising interest rates to curtail inflation....liar. The cause of inflation is printing excess money, it becomes worth less so things take more to purchase. She knows this-the $1.9 Trillion "covid relief bill" was the excuse. Most of that money ended up in their (politicians) pockets, and as payola to foreign nations who helped toss the 2020 election.

I want to see Hunter Biden's 2016 income tax statement, bet he didn't claim any of his gifts from overseas, like the $1.5 billion he got from China for being awesome.
 

privatemom

Veteran Member
Welp. Now we have heard this from several in the government. Means we are definitely getting targeted, audited and in trouble
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Lmao. The demoncrats pass a law that is purposely aimed at the middle and working class and when the truth comes out their saying oh we’d never do that, we promise

They have proven themselves to be liars for decades plus and if anyone believes their promise they need to be place in a 24/7 care center because they are crazy
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I had not seen where she claimed the authority to change tax rates or tried to do so. Anyone have a link to that story?

Long time ago she was talking about it as a way to raise money for the government. It was in some package she was part of doing something with. Can't even remember all of the details, just know she tends to overstate her authority because she either doesn't fully understand her position or she ignores the checks and balances upon it.

There was something going on last year where she and Biden and couple of other somebody or others were trying to hitch the US wagon to some international financial "treaty" that involved the tax rate. That's when the question of just what her authority is.

Not to mention, I've wanted to give your statement a go to see where I had made an error and I still can find no confirmation that Yellen can tell the IRS what they can and cannot do with funding that is coming to them over a ten-year period from Congress or that she can blanket restrict them from who they can and cannot audit.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
I doubt she has any authority to do this. Mostly it is thunder without any lightning.

Yellen Orders IRS Not to Ramp Up Middle-Class Audits


Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has directed the Internal Revenue Service not to increase its audit rate on households earning less than $400,000 per year.

In a letter to IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig dated Wednesday, Yellen said that “much-needed funding” that will flow to the tax agency as a result of the Inflation Reduction Act — about $80 billion over 10 years, assuming the bill passes the House later this week as expected — will be used “to improve taxpayer service, modernize outdated technological infrastructure, and increase equity in the tax system by enforcing the tax laws against those high-earners, large corporations, and complex partnerships who today do not pay what they owe.”


She also said that not increasing the audit rate on households earning less than $400,000 (a group that sometimes passes for middle-class in Washington) has been “a guiding precept” for the IRS as it plans how to spend the additional funding it expects to receive in the coming years, including roughly $45 billion designated for enforcement.

The IRS plan: “Specifically, I direct that any additional resources—including any new personnel or auditors that are hired—shall not be used to increase the share of small business or households below the $400,000 threshold that are audited relative to historical levels,” Yellen wrote. “This means that, contrary to the misinformation from opponents of this legislation, small business or households earning $400,000 per year or less will not see an increase in the chances that they are audited.”

Instead, Yellen says that additional enforcement capabilities will focus on “high-end noncompliance,” which requires far more time and attention than that given to typical middle- and working-class tax returns. “This is challenging work that requires a team of sophisticated revenue agents in place to spend thousands of hours poring over complicated returns, and it is also work that has huge revenue potential: indeed, an additional hour auditing someone making more than $5 million annually generates an estimated $4,500 of additional taxes collected,” she wrote.


Ultimately, it means that average taxpayers will face less scrutiny, Yellen said. "For regular taxpayers ... the result of this resource infusion will be a lower likelihood of audit by an agency that has the data and technological infrastructure in place to target enforcement resources where they belong—on the high end of the income distribution, where the top 1% alone is estimated to not be paying $160 billion in owed taxes each year,” Yellen wrote. “That’s important as a matter of revenue-raising, but it’s also essential as a matter of fairness.”

Responding to wild claims: The move comes amid grossly exaggerated claims by Republicans that the IRS will use its additional funding to harass middle-class households and small businesses with a “new army of 87,000 IRS agents,” as House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) put it earlier this week, using language that is popular within the GOP. While unlikely to quell what appear to be politically motivated attacks, Yellen’s letter does add to the pile of documents attempting to refute Republicans’ anti-IRS fear-mongering.

Evaluating McCarthy’s claim about that terrifying IRS army, Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler gave the GOP leader a three Pinocchio rating – meaning the statement is “mostly false.”

The 87,000-person force will not be appearing on the horizon any time soon – in fact, it is unlikely ever to assemble. The figure is drawn from a year-old Treasury report that estimates that the IRS could use extra funding to hire about 7,000 to 12,000 people per year to make up for the many cuts in personnel over the last decade, as well as to fill in for the many IRS employees who will be retiring. Kessler notes that more than half of the IRS’s 82,000 employees — a total of 50,000 workers — will be eligible to retire in the next five years.

On top of that, there is no concrete plan to hire 87,000 people, with that number being just a rough estimate. And whatever new hires the agency does make, many won’t be auditors and instead will be focused on implementing new technology and improving customer service.
Rep. Gerry Connolly, a Democrat from Virginia, put it in more direct terms, however partisan, framing the new funding as a necessary part of rebuilding the tax agency. “You are being lied to. There's no army of 87,000 new IRS agents. It's made up,” he wrote on Twitter. “The GOP hollowed out the IRS & slashed its budgets. Rich tax cheats run wild, meanwhile you can't even get someone from the IRS on the phone. We are restoring the agency so it actually works for you.”

Think about what she said...... so they can direct audits to anyone they want if they do the opposite......another governments agency directed at us for their retention of power
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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I've wanted to give your statement a go to see where I had made an error and I still can find no confirmation that Yellen can tell the IRS what they can and cannot do with funding that is coming to them over a ten-year period from Congress or that she can blanket restrict them from who they can and cannot audit.
I am simply invoking the way things work in a typical corporate hierarchical structure and translating it to government.

We have a CEO with 4 major divisions, each of which have a President. We have tens of thousands of employees.

Yellen, as Secretary of Treasury is the equivalent of a CEO. The head of the IRS is like the President of that division of Treasury.

If our CEO says something about how and what he expects from any or all of those 4 divisions, those divisions see to it that the CEOs directives are honored. It is up to Presidents of those 4 divisions to then see to it that their division carry out the CEO’s directive.

Our previous CEO set in motion long-term plans and directives that continue to carry on beyond his tenure. Could the new CEO change or terminate those plans and directives, absolutely!

But they think long and hard before doing so because there is a lot of investment that would be wasted if the long-term goals are not met and in most cases the need is to continue pursuing those goals unless circumstances, the markets, customer demands, etc. change and then with a lot of consideration they may change or stop some of the long-term projects in favor of new ones.

We see government make those kinds of decisions based on the politicians in charge at the moment.

Maybe government hierarchies and authority don’t work like the typical hierarchies and authority do in the corporate world that I come from.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
I am simply invoking the way things work in a typical corporate hierarchical structure and translating it to government.

We have a CEO with 4 major divisions, each of which have a President. We have tens of thousands of employees.

Yellen, as Secretary of Treasury is the equivalent of a CEO. The head of the IRS is like the President of that division of Treasury.

If our CEO says something about how and what he expects from any or all of those 4 divisions, those divisions see to it that the CEOs directives are honored. It is up to Presidents of those 4 divisions to then see to it that their division carry out the CEO’s directive.

Our previous CEO set in motion long-term plans and directives that continue to carry on beyond his tenure. Could the new CEO change or terminate those plans and directives, absolutely!

But they think long and hard before doing so because there is a lot of investment that would be wasted if the long-term goals are not met and in most cases the need is to continue pursuing those goals unless circumstances, the markets, customer demands, etc. change and then with a lot of consideration they may change or stop some of the long-term projects in favor of new ones.

We see government make those kinds of decisions based on the politicians in charge at the moment.

Maybe government hierarchies and authority don’t work like the typical hierarchies and authority do in the corporate world that I come from.
Sad thing is there is NO HONOR. This is crap and we all know it.

Yellen can drive her clown car straight to hades.
 

West

Senior
Maybe she's telling a half truth. Like their not going to tax the idiots who vote and are woke, liberal or demoncrat, working poor/small businesses.

Only Republicans and or MAGA patriots, or deplorables, will be audited and taxed double hard.

:D
 

TKO

Veteran Member
Looks like that has been changed with an EO from Xiden to do exactly this...audit whites and asians and call it "equity".


fair use cited
President Joe Biden last week issued an executive order instructing the Internal Revenue Service to target whites and Asians with audits under the guise of “equity,” Fox News reported.

The America First Legal Foundation filed a lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act, noting that Biden and his administration intended to “alter Internal Revenue Service’s audit algorithms to target white, Asian, or mixed-race taxpayers.”
 
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