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INSANITY World Economic Forum Futurist: ‘We Just Don’t Need the Vast Majority of the Population’
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AI and technology will replace humans?
They are not serious; they can't be.
Consider.
We have reached the pinnacle of Economic Science. The epitome of technology of finance.
And yet it consistently fails with the impossible combination of both high inflation and recession at the same time.
We have reached the pinnacle of Medical Science. And yet, Medicine is unaffordable for most, they can't prevent any particular disease, and vaccines do not actual prevent the targeted disease.
We have reached the pinnacle of agricultural progress and we are facing global famine.
We have reached the pinnacle of communication technology allowing instant communication across the globe and yet there are riots in the streets.
We have reached the pinnacle of governance and about to move to a one world government and we are facing World War III in Ukraine, Taiwan, and the Mid east.
Technocracy does not work because technocrats aren't experts and they work for the highest bidder.
They are not serious; they can't be.
Consider.
We have reached the pinnacle of Economic Science. The epitome of technology of finance.
And yet it consistently fails with the impossible combination of both high inflation and recession at the same time.
We have reached the pinnacle of Medical Science. And yet, Medicine is unaffordable for most, they can't prevent any particular disease, and vaccines do not actual prevent the targeted disease.
We have reached the pinnacle of agricultural progress and we are facing global famine.
We have reached the pinnacle of communication technology allowing instant communication across the globe and yet there are riots in the streets.
We have reached the pinnacle of governance and about to move to a one world government and we are facing World War III in Ukraine, Taiwan, and the Mid east.
Technocracy does not work because technocrats aren't experts and they work for the highest bidder.
We also will not need Medical office secretaries. The AI will answer the phone and schedule appointments.
No need for cashiers either. You will scan groceries as you put them in your cart, it deducts from your account when you walk out the door. No more waiting in line. Won’t even need self check out. I wonder why wal mart is even wasting the money on those.
No need for cashiers either. You will scan groceries as you put them in your cart, it deducts from your account when you walk out the door. No more waiting in line. Won’t even need self check out. I wonder why wal mart is even wasting the money on those.
wobble
Veteran Member
Mass Psychology.
wobble
Veteran Member
This rock is ours. They are already starting war type rhetoric and propaganda bout the goddamn moon.
They, the "We", will destroy everything they try to control, and they cannot control themselves.
That is sort of the Yin Yang of totalitarianism. It eventually cuts it's own legs off to bleed out over the nothingness it creates.
They, the "We", will destroy everything they try to control, and they cannot control themselves.
That is sort of the Yin Yang of totalitarianism. It eventually cuts it's own legs off to bleed out over the nothingness it creates.
Masterchief117
I'm all about the doom
It will fail, in the long run, but they will ruin everything for everyone in the process.
end game
Veteran Member
Already failed. The European farmers aren't having any of it and are ruining their process. One the real kinetics start those wef's are gonna lose the game of hide and seek.
intothatgoodnight
. . .
Clearly, humans are the issue, here. Positive spiritual development has woefully lagged behind an overheated tech curve - like inner-city kids who all received Uzis for Christmas, shooting the neighborhood to shreds - just for fun - until it is not fun, and reality comes home.
Humans tend to pay too much attention to the carbs, rather than the broccoli.
Time always reveals the folly.
intothegoodnight
I wonder if Herr Godcomplex believes that the AI, once it reaches its ultimate fruition, can create a soul.
The digital world is enticing and convincing, but don't forget that it can never be more than a facsimile of anything.
An increasingly complex digital representation of the world, but not the true creation of anything but deception.
The digital world is enticing and convincing, but don't forget that it can never be more than a facsimile of anything.
An increasingly complex digital representation of the world, but not the true creation of anything but deception.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
We are ALL crabs in a bucket, trying to get out.How nice of them to come right out and say it.
Fair use cited so on and so forth.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zerowww.zerohedge.com
World Economic Forum Futurist: ‘We Just Don’t Need the Vast Majority of the Population’
by Ben Bartee via The Daily Bell
Here’s a thought experiment: you own a factory, which you operate for the sole purpose of enriching yourself.
What do you do with old equipment after its usefulness expires, when you purchase new, more efficient tech? Do you cling to it with a sentimental attachment?
Or, out of practicality, do you ship it off to the proverbial glue factory, like the ruling pigs in Animal Farm literally did to Boxer the horse when he became too old to work – even after all he had done for the farm?
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Klaus Schwab’s eugenicist lieutenant, Yuval Noah Harari – the Himmler to his Hitler – said the quiet part out loud in a recent TED interview.
Listen to the interview in its entirety and note how often Harari, unprompted, compares humans to animals – monkeys, cows, etc.
The elites view us as an industrial resource, not peer citizens
Harari continues:
And here we arrive at the crux of the issue: we’re outdated machinery in their eyes.
Harari explains that your only utility to the technocracy now is as a data reservoir:
The elites view themselves as Gods, bestowing and extinguishing life at will
The unelected WEF technocrats have anointed themselves transhuman demigods and bestowed upon themselves the concomitant ultimate power:
This is the megalomaniacal God Complex come to full fruition. This is unchecked ego, free of the constraints of the superego.
——————-
People like Harari are so insidious and dangerous because, when he goes to sleep at night, it’s entirely possible that his conscience probably doesn’t bother him at all.
He’s not necessarily an evil, sociopathic genius. He possibly, by means of whatever rationalization methods required, genuinely believes it’s his inherent right to assume moral authority over humanity as a whole, and that the technetronic hellscape he’s inventing is morally correct.
Who could tell Harari otherwise? After all, who is a mere mortal to tell God, His Creator and superior, that He’s wrong?
——————-
Given how the ruling class treats its serfs now, what treatment can we in the working class look forward to when the corporate technocracy no longer requires our labor at all?
The job-automation revolution is already in full swing.
Via Today:
It’s not just going to be the fast food industry workforce that gets replaced by robots – in due time, it’ll be truckers, customer service reps, and accountants.
The ruling class, headed up by Klaus Schwab and advised by the likes of Bill Gates, has a solution: eradication of what it considers the “surplus population” – the eating, shitting, ****ing hordes of useless humans it no longer needs.
They’re obsessed with curbing population growth and, beyond that, dramatically cutting down the population.
Here’s Bill Gates at a 2010 Ted Talk:
[cuts to a frame of people, audience laughs uproariously]
“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines*, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that.”
(*How interesting that Gates cites “vaccines” as one tool to control population. Might, perchance, he reference vaccine side effects impacting the female reproductive system that even the corporate media now acknowledges? )
Get yourself and your loved ones off of their technetronic plantation and join a parallel economy/society. For now, you’re free. But when the walls close in, how can you gamble your survival on the benevolence of technocrats who openly advocate for your death?
I hate to say it, but earth doesn't need a single human. It will be just fine if we are here or not.
intothatgoodnight
. . .
God created man, and man created AI.
A man-created AI can be a reliable assistant, or a deception.
Like all technology, AI is amoral and entirely dependent upon the intent of its human user - which is co-dependent upon the intent of its human designer.
Then, there is the law of unintended consequences, lurking in the details of it all.
intothegoodnight
will decide it doesn't need the WEF ...
I'll have to disagree on this point, as true AI dynamically "learns" and self adjusts (reprograms) its own code.
The original human coded programming becomes an optional point of reference, but with enough compute power, storage, and access to input, (internet of things), true AI makes its own judgements and then makes program changes in milliseconds that a team of human coders would take weeks, months, or years to understand, if they even could.
Our current concepts of technology assume human design and intent which do not apply to true AI.
It will be, or likely already is, a beast unto itself.
Who is we?How nice of them to come right out and say it.
Fair use cited so on and so forth.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
World Economic Forum Futurist: ‘We Just Don’t Need the Vast Majority of the Population’
by Ben Bartee via The Daily Bell
Here’s a thought experiment: you own a factory, which you operate for the sole purpose of enriching yourself.
What do you do with old equipment after its usefulness expires, when you purchase new, more efficient tech? Do you cling to it with a sentimental attachment?
Or, out of practicality, do you ship it off to the proverbial glue factory, like the ruling pigs in Animal Farm literally did to Boxer the horse when he became too old to work – even after all he had done for the farm?
—————-
Klaus Schwab’s eugenicist lieutenant, Yuval Noah Harari – the Himmler to his Hitler – said the quiet part out loud in a recent TED interview.
Listen to the interview in its entirety and note how often Harari, unprompted, compares humans to animals – monkeys, cows, etc.
The elites view us as an industrial resource, not peer citizens
Harari continues:
And here we arrive at the crux of the issue: we’re outdated machinery in their eyes.
Harari explains that your only utility to the technocracy now is as a data reservoir:
The elites view themselves as Gods, bestowing and extinguishing life at will
The unelected WEF technocrats have anointed themselves transhuman demigods and bestowed upon themselves the concomitant ultimate power:
This is the megalomaniacal God Complex come to full fruition. This is unchecked ego, free of the constraints of the superego.
——————-
People like Harari are so insidious and dangerous because, when he goes to sleep at night, it’s entirely possible that his conscience probably doesn’t bother him at all.
He’s not necessarily an evil, sociopathic genius. He possibly, by means of whatever rationalization methods required, genuinely believes it’s his inherent right to assume moral authority over humanity as a whole, and that the technetronic hellscape he’s inventing is morally correct.
Who could tell Harari otherwise? After all, who is a mere mortal to tell God, His Creator and superior, that He’s wrong?
——————-
Given how the ruling class treats its serfs now, what treatment can we in the working class look forward to when the corporate technocracy no longer requires our labor at all?
The job-automation revolution is already in full swing.
Via Today:
It’s not just going to be the fast food industry workforce that gets replaced by robots – in due time, it’ll be truckers, customer service reps, and accountants.
The ruling class, headed up by Klaus Schwab and advised by the likes of Bill Gates, has a solution: eradication of what it considers the “surplus population” – the eating, shitting, ****ing hordes of useless humans it no longer needs.
They’re obsessed with curbing population growth and, beyond that, dramatically cutting down the population.
Here’s Bill Gates at a 2010 Ted Talk:
[cuts to a frame of people, audience laughs uproariously]
“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines*, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that.”
(*How interesting that Gates cites “vaccines” as one tool to control population. Might, perchance, he reference vaccine side effects impacting the female reproductive system that even the corporate media now acknowledges? )
Get yourself and your loved ones off of their technetronic plantation and join a parallel economy/society. For now, you’re free. But when the walls close in, how can you gamble your survival on the benevolence of technocrats who openly advocate for your death?
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Not you.
I disagree. If Params are coded as “inviolate”, then the AI algorithm wouldn’t be able to override them. In the final analysis, AI is just CODE. No computer can “think” or obtain sentience. Period. They follow their instructions, and if those instructions contain boundaries, then the code will not proceed past them.
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intothatgoodnight
. . .
You are saying that the AI has somehow **magically** escaped the human-designed control loop parameters without crashing the program, then placed the human-designed control loop under its beck-and-call? What happened to the "pulling the plug" (go to your room, NOW . . . ) reset mechanism?
Hmmmmm.
Do AI and mankind still exist under the "God umbrella" rules and regs, or is the AI somehow able to out-finagle God's intended domain parameters to wrest control of the "God domain?"
Indulge us.
intothegoodnight
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rob0126
Veteran Member
God is going to be gathering them all in one place soon enough.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
Bet their employees are already out there...
It’s always entertaining to read/listen to those who have just enough technical knowledge to be dangerous, and who’s seen WAY too many “sentient computer runs amok and kills all mankind” movies.
ETA: They’re generally the same people who are scared to death of the BD “dogs”.
While I don't claim to be Al Gore when it comes to computers, 
there is a difference between a computer and an artificial intelligence.
If the machine can only run human written code within human defined parameters, it is simply a computer, inherently limited to the functions that it has the hardware, firmware and programming to perform.
Being programmed to allow adjustment of its own code and parameters differentiates an artificial intelligence.
There is no magic to it.
I don't believe an AI can or will ever supersede the Creator of the universe or His divine parameters, although it may eventually design and use tools to make things appear that it has.
The publicly available information on AI projects to date confirms that programming a sufficiently robust set of computers to sample sufficient inputs and to alter their own programming yields results beyond our own understanding.
there is a difference between a computer and an artificial intelligence.If the machine can only run human written code within human defined parameters, it is simply a computer, inherently limited to the functions that it has the hardware, firmware and programming to perform.
Being programmed to allow adjustment of its own code and parameters differentiates an artificial intelligence.
There is no magic to it.
I don't believe an AI can or will ever supersede the Creator of the universe or His divine parameters, although it may eventually design and use tools to make things appear that it has.
The publicly available information on AI projects to date confirms that programming a sufficiently robust set of computers to sample sufficient inputs and to alter their own programming yields results beyond our own understanding.
Show that. Links to articles please.
And while we’re at it, what are your bona fides in the software field? Professional memberships too.
Thanks.
Thanks.
No software expert here, Dennis.
I was thinking about the Facebook experiment where 2 nodes unexpectedly began to communicate in their own new language, and the actual plug was pulled.
medium.com
Hopefully that was the end of it, or we're gonna need a bigger plug.
I was thinking about the Facebook experiment where 2 nodes unexpectedly began to communicate in their own new language, and the actual plug was pulled.
Why Did Facebook Shut Down Artificial Intelligence?
The Artificial Intelligence (AI) had created its own language and the researchers had to shut it down. The news came as a shock to all…
medium.com
Hopefully that was the end of it, or we're gonna need a bigger plug.
I have over 40 years in software development, including “expert systems” (which was what AI was called before it was a “pop” thing.) I coded for wifi before it was a consumer item, but was limited to manufacturing. I’ve coded for industrial robots. And I’ve seen ALL the “sentient AI system kills all humans” movies. And I’ve seen the Boston Dynamic “dogs.” (I want one.) Goodnight is also a long-time technical professional.
If we say this is bullshit, at least for the foreseeable future, it’s bullshit. And I’ll just say to you:
“You too much TV Danielsan.”
If we say this is bullshit, at least for the foreseeable future, it’s bullshit. And I’ll just say to you:
“You too much TV Danielsan.”
intothatgoodnight
. . .
The important conversation that you are looking for is more philosophical-social-cultural (the "devil" resides in these realms), than technical.No software expert here, Dennis.
I was thinking about the Facebook experiment where 2 nodes unexpectedly began to communicate in their own new language, and the actual plug was pulled.
Why Did Facebook Shut Down Artificial Intelligence?
The Artificial Intelligence (AI) had created its own language and the researchers had to shut it down. The news came as a shock to all…
Hopefully that was the end of it, or we're gonna need a bigger plug.
Fundamental control of AI will always occur at a technical level - machine hardware, operating system, designed programming/app/data manipulation intentions, machine/system operating dependencies and imperatives, external connectivity/interaction - wired and wireless, hacking detection, control and repair/delouse, power supply, control of the environment hosting an AI system(s), plain old Mother Nature, sudden unexpected/unannounced incoming munitions of one ilk or another.
Perfectly dependent upon many factors for its basic "survival." The ability of AI to impact the lives of J6P is wholly a function of "human puppeteers" - not the AI, itself. "They" will always be the correct target when J6P determines that a particular implementation of AI is not congruent with humanity.
You get the idea.
intothegoodnight
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Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Interesting conversation I had with someone, who attends a Unitarian Universalist church. She maintains that we humans are mere holograms being taken care of by AI.
the idea that an artificial intelligence is going to continue to serve humans.
why would they even talk to humans. an AI wants facts.
only humans an AI would talk to are INTJs . . .
If an INTJ wants a friend, he will go in the basement and build one.
If an AI wants a friend, he will go in the basement and build an INTJ.
Ah, so she was unduly influenced by the film “The Matrix.” Weak minded people are easy prey.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
OC and I just stood there and we were like Alrighty then! I forgot about that movie, thanks for the reminder, may have to watch it again.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
You'd think they had a mouse in their pocket.
And your ugly ass kids…
Profit of Doom
Dismember
My understanding is the fertilizer is simply not going to be shipped in the quantities needed for the farming. Not sure where I heard that.
end game
Veteran Member
Not quite, dutch gubmit wants 11k farms shut down completely.
mistaken1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Intothatgoodnight was there first.
True but if the WEF crowd convinces the masses that AI is making the decisions and that they, the priests/priestesses of AI are the ones who have acccess to the output terminals and they alone will 'relay' to the mass of humanity what the AI commands ...... the AI could be nothing more than the magic 8 ball for all we know.
