CORONA Why is PA’s most vaxxed county having an explosion in Covid cases?

coalcracker

Veteran Member
Come, let us reason together. Let us do some deductive thinking. Is not the inference obvious?

In PA, the most vaxxed county is Lehigh. Here are their current numbers. The red is “at least one shot.” The green is “fully vaxxed.”
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So, now consider this:

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subnet

Boot
But they all need the newest variant jab and it only takes one little tweak to the current ones and no testing for any adverse effects of said little tweek...its safe because "science" (even though no real testing, is not scientific in any way shape or form, bordering on unethical) says so....


I am truly amazed at how incompetent and arrogant our medical and scientific community has become.
 

greysage

On The Level
Judging by my neighbors and others passing around the free home test ordering link; I'd say these numbers are like the airplane-woman. People are testing heck out of themselves. Just like wearing a mask, these people wear these tests like a flag.
 

artichoke

Greetings from near tropical NYC!
The AMA (American Medical Association, which doctors do not have to join) has an interesting definition of "informed consent".

The process of informed consent occurs when communication between a patient and physician results in the patient’s authorization or agreement to undergo a specific medical intervention.

As I read it, the conversation can be almost anything at all, and as long as the doc can talk the patient into doing it, that's informed consent.

There's no requirement that the patient understand the tradeoffs and arguments. With the complicated issues around Covid and the vaxes, and the pervasive propaganda, doctors themselves disagree about this stuff. How can the general public be said to be giving informed consent when they have no f***ing clue what they're agreeing to? But the AMA definition allows that.

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Code of Medical Ethics Opinion 2.1.1
Informed consent to medical treatment is fundamental in both ethics and law. Patients have the right to receive information and ask questions about recommended treatments so that they can make well-considered decisions about care. Successful communication in the patient-physician relationship fosters trust and supports shared decision making.
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The process of informed consent occurs when communication between a patient and physician results in the patient’s authorization or agreement to undergo a specific medical intervention. In seeking a patient’s informed consent (or the consent of the patient’s surrogate if the patient lacks decision-making capacity or declines to participate in making decisions), physicians should:
  1. Assess the patient’s ability to understand relevant medical information and the implications of treatment alternatives and to make an independent, voluntary decision.
  2. Present relevant information accurately and sensitively, in keeping with the patient’s preferences for receiving medical information. The physician should include information about:
    1. The diagnosis (when known)
    2. The nature and purpose of recommended interventions
    3. The burdens, risks, and expected benefits of all options, including forgoing treatment
  3. Document the informed consent conversation and the patient’s (or surrogate’s) decision in the medical record in some manner. When the patient/surrogate has provided specific written consent, the consent form should be included in the record.
In emergencies, when a decision must be made urgently, the patient is not able to participate in decision making, and the patient’s surrogate is not available, physicians may initiate treatment without prior informed consent. In such situations, the physician should inform the patient/surrogate at the earliest opportunity and obtain consent for ongoing treatment in keeping with these guidelines.
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Masks are bullshit and always have been.

The vax has *negative* efficacy - it makes it *more* likely that you will be infected.
I wore the cloth mask in stores all last winter and I got pnumonia for 5 wks with a temp of 102°. I think I got it from breathing in the bacteria from the mask. I won't wear it anymore. 98% of people here in Western NY are wearing masks in the stores. When I see someone without a mask I always talk to them.
 

Matt

Veteran Member
There is something definitely wrong, I can't believe so many (front line healthcare workers ect..) could be "evil" in such a way as to knowingly push the crap, thus my comment.
How many of those front line workers would be willing to work in a facility that performs abortions? If you can kill a baby.....no evil is out of bounds!
 

subnet

Boot
How many of those front line workers would be willing to work in a facility that performs abortions? If you can kill a baby.....no evil is out of bounds!
True to a point, but to push something on your loved ones that you know would kill them would be a whole other level, so I'm more inclined to believe its more of a mass psychosis/incompetence/arrogance thing.
 

niceguy

Veteran Member
There is something definitely wrong, I can't believe so many (front line healthcare workers ect..) could be "evil" in such a way as to knowingly push the crap, thus my comment.
The fully intentional evil may well be higher up than the frontline folks. But there's still plenty of complicitness (is that a word?) to go around.
 

niceguy

Veteran Member
I wore the cloth mask in stores all last winter and I got pnumonia for 5 wks with a temp of 102°. I think I got it from breathing in the bacteria from the mask. I won't wear it anymore. 98% of people here in Western NY are wearing masks in the stores. When I see someone without a mask I always talk to them.
Very sorry to hear of your illness, but not particularly surprised. In fact, I'm surprised we don't hear about it more, this shit with the masks has to be unhealthy as hell. I'm FURIOUS that they inflict it on kids! **** the teacher's unions, they should all die.

I'm in suburban Chicagoland, lots of face-diaper lovers here, too. I'm generally not one of them, though I'm not 100%. I'll nod at the other non-masked sometimes, or smile.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
but ya gotta admit . . . we HAVE made progress in the last year . . . look - nobody is bitching because you're walking the WRONG WAY in the canned soups and vegetables isle :shr:
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
I do believe that UK studies have shown that Vax and Vax+ time +booster actually impairs your overall immune system's ability to cope with variants, particularly Omicron. You actually become more susceptible than the unvaxxed.

Dr. Chris Martenson has a video today on New Zealand, which has been an isolated population on perpetual lockdown. The COVID rate is very low. How the vax relates to death rates is discussed
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
but ya gotta admit . . . we HAVE made progress in the last year . . . look - nobody is bitching because you're walking the WRONG WAY in the canned soups and vegetables isle :shr:

For what it's worth, that crap didn't last long here. There are a few stores that still have the arrows with the circles at the check outs, but the aisle directional arrows are gone.

Signs about masks on store doors have also mostly disappeared. I think Target still had one. That's all I can remember. It might be gone, now. I haven't been there for awhile.
 
Very sorry to hear of your illness, but not particularly surprised. In fact, I'm surprised we don't hear about it more, this shit with the masks has to be unhealthy as hell. I'm FURIOUS that they inflict it on kids! **** the teacher's unions, they should all die.

I'm in suburban Chicagoland, lots of face-diaper lovers here, too. I'm generally not one of them, though I'm not 100%. I'll nod at the other non-masked sometimes, or smile.
Well, I wouldn't mind if I just had the pnumonia, but the doc said it damaged my lungs and in Dec my one lung collapsed and I had a very hard time breathing. In hospice for 4 days. Now gotta hope it does not collapse again. 50% of people have another collapse within 3 yrs. So I am afraid of wearing a mask again and I won't.
 

niceguy

Veteran Member
Well, I wouldn't mind if I just had the pnumonia, but the doc said it damaged my lungs and in Dec my one lung collapsed and I had a very hard time breathing. In hospice for 4 days. Now gotta hope it does not collapse again. 50% of people have another collapse within 3 yrs. So I am afraid of wearing a mask again and I won't.
Wow, that's terrible. Wishing you only the best!
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Masks are bullshit and always have been.

The vax has *negative* efficacy - it makes it *more* likely that you will be infected.
YEP. The vax doesn't work against Omicron and the third shot takes AWAY all but 15% of your immune system so that you get ANY DISEASE WORSE!

You could have stuck with just the two Covid shots and still had 60% of your immune system left to fight any disease but you made a bad choice.
 

Groucho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
But...but... we were told it's the un-vaxxed causing the problems and spreading the disease.
 
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