BRKG White House announces plan to distribute Covid vaccine to kids age 5 to 11 as soon as it’s authorized (update post #6)

Samuel Adams

Samuel Adams

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Blacknarwhal said:
Scuse me, but that is a steaming pantload.

"Full disclosure"? By hiding it in some random point of a work of fiction airing on a third-rate streaming network? Might as well write your plans down in Sanskrit and then seal them in a block of concrete you drop into the ocean.
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Finding ones way in the maize is not easy.

We lost the right to easy when Adam fell.

Quit resisting reality.......and it’s not quite so difficult to navigate.
 
Bps1691

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intothatgoodnight said:
Per se, not aimed at you, specifically.

The idea that the Republicans are **somehow** magically "better" than Democrats is purely WRONG THINK.

We simply must STOP thinking in this way.

Whenever mankind is involved - to continue to do (think, believe) the same thing, over and over, and some how expect a different/better outcome (it will be better, next time) is the very definition of insanity.

Flawed thinking at its finest, that only leads to "more of the same" mayhem.

"The beatings will continue, until the moral improves," and its corollary, "The communists (evil) will continue to create mayhem until they no longer are able to do so," are both rooted in real human history/events/happenings.

Humankind will continue to suffer, for however long it takes for us to awaken and change our thinking with regard to the fact that we are fundamentally engaged in a war with evil; from the moment we are born, to their moment of our physical death.

The RINO corruption problem is a planned/installed opposition, by the RNC - who, themselves, are nothing more than DNC-lite - the RNC and the DNC are TWO sides of the SAME communist COIN.

Mankind's FALLEN nature, writ large, for everyone to see and understand. Will mankind awaken in time?


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That's my point although I didn't make it well. I am an independent and detest both parties. There are only a handful of politicians that I have supported in the last 40 years.

The true father of them has been at war with men since Adam and he won't stop until the Risen Lord returns.

Mankind as a whole is getting more corrupt with each generation. We are approaching "as it was in the times of Noah" and the destruction will fall.
 
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intothatgoodnight

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Samuel Adams said:
You should hear Gerald Celente rant about how the rest of the world hits the streets while we are being psychologically neutered by the press and threats of falling into “domestic terrorist” category.
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Well - that, and nobody wants to "stand out" in their "crowd" - peer pressure is one of the primary weapons being utilized in this war of the mind and spirit. To take on a red-pill life perspective in an otherwise seemingly purple (at best) neighborhood, or job, or church/synagogue, is treading on the possibility of trouble coming into one's personal life - just think of how the neighbors will chatter behind one's red-pill back about how much of a (fill in the blank) one is - and how embarrassing "he" is, for his wife and children as his red-pill perspectives/activities/beliefs impugn/sully their "reputation" . . . <in the eyes of others>

Yup. Divide (the family) and conquer.

Psyop 101 tactics.


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intothatgoodnight

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Kathy in FL said:
Do they really think some infomercial is going to convince parent to shoot their kids up with what is still an experimental treatment?
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Has worked very well, so far - with the adults - some so frightened that they will get whatever TPTB recommend/mandate - for themselves, their family, and the kids - and grandkids.

We are at war. A psyop war.

Why would TPTB want to change war tactics, at this juncture?

Social peer pressure works (people fear being different and standing out in a crowd).

Economic and job threats work. (people fear running out of money that allows them to live the lifestyle that they may portray, for other's consumption/to see - class, image, standing in the eyes of others, and "the lifestyle" to which they have become accustomed).

What TPTB are doing works.

Unrelenting, purposefully-created fear.

Manipulating fear. Works better than any other kind of steering wheel, in order to guide the direction of the masses.

It Just Works®

No need for bullets, tanks, bombs and missiles/planes overhead.

"I have met the enemy, and he is us." <h/t to the late Walt Kelly, creator of the comic strip, "Pogo.">


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Elza

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Kathy in FL said:
Do they really think some infomercial is going to convince parent to shoot their kids up with what is still an experimental treatment?
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Yes. And, sadly, they are mostly correct. People will fight to get to the front of the line to get their kids poisoned.
 
Samuel Adams

Samuel Adams

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intothatgoodnight said:
Well - that, and nobody wants to "stand out" in their "crowd" - - just think of how the neighbors will chatter behind one's red-pill back about how much of a (fill in the blank) one is - and how embarrassing "he" is, for his wife and children as his red-pill perspectives/activities/beliefs impugn/sully their "reputation" . . . <in the eyes of others>

intothegoodnight
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Got the t-shirt.....wrote the book.
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

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Profit of Doom said:
My wife is leaning toward the jab again. Wants to be able to see the ggkids. Funny thing, the actual mom to the youngest will not take the jab, nor her family. Wife refuses to look at OPENVAERS, or anything else I present. Thinking about “So, none of these adverse events is real, so you won’t suffer from paralysis, incessant itching, etc., since they aren’t real, you won’t need to go into convalescent care.
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Kathy in FL said:
The vaxx doesn’t prevent you from catching it. They also now admit the vaxx doesn’t prevent transmission. There was an article say the vaxx isn’t as good as catching it.
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I'll take a page from Rondaben's book and say, "Follow the science".

And what better source to "follow the science" than the NIH?

The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.

For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39%, substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96%. It is also emerging that immunity derived from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may not be as strong as immunity acquired through recovery from the COVID-19 virus. A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported. Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated.

In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
Bogey

Bogey

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country.”
Ragnarok said:
I'll take a page from Rondaben's book and say, "Follow the science".

And what better source to "follow the science" than the NIH?

The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.

For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39%, substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96%. It is also emerging that immunity derived from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may not be as strong as immunity acquired through recovery from the COVID-19 virus. A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported. Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated.

In summary, even as efforts should be made to encourage populations to get vaccinated it should be done so with humility and respect. Stigmatizing populations can do more harm than good. Importantly, other non-pharmacological prevention efforts (e.g., the importance of basic public health hygiene with regards to maintaining safe distance or handwashing, promoting better frequent and cheaper forms of testing) needs to be renewed in order to strike the balance of learning to live with COVID-19 in the same manner we continue to live a 100 years later with various seasonal alterations of the 1918 Influenza virus.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Let the CYA operation begin but it's going to be a bit difficult after the NIH's own words from 2020 get out in plain site.

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Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease - PubMed

The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical...
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Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID-19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
Timothy Cardozo 1 , Ronald Veazey 2
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  • 1 Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Pharmacology, NYU Langone Health, New York, NY, USA.
  • 2 Division of Comparative Pathology, Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine, Tulane University School of Medicine, Tulane National Primate Research Center, Covington, LA, USA.
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Timothy Cardozo et al. Int J Clin Pract. 2021 Mar.
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Timothy Cardozo 1 , Ronald Veazey 2
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  • 1 Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Pharmacology, NYU Langone Health, New York, NY, USA.
  • 2 Division of Comparative Pathology, Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine, Tulane University School of Medicine, Tulane National Primate Research Center, Covington, LA, USA.
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Aims of the study: Patient comprehension is a critical part of meeting medical ethics standards of informed consent in study designs. The aim of the study was to determine if sufficient literature exists to require clinicians to disclose the specific risk that COVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus.
Methods used to conduct the study: Published literature was reviewed to identify preclinical and clinical evidence that COVID-19 vaccines could worsen disease upon exposure to challenge or circulating virus. Clinical trial protocols for COVID-19 vaccines were reviewed to determine if risks were properly disclosed.
Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.
Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent.
 
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