CHAT What troubles you the most if "they" decide to . . .

[Catnip]

Living in a bubble like that makes one wonder what your O2 sat was by the time you finished typing.

Unfortunately, people like you never wake up, which is why this country is rotting from the inside out.

 

[cimarron]

In y'alls opinion, would BB, #2, #3, or #4 shot be best for drones? Asking for a friend.

 

[bracketquant]

We have to stop and think: who is to blame for this mess we are in? It's us, We the People, who don't care enough to go and vote IN PERSON for the right people to lead us in the correct direction. We the People who would rather go to a movie than learn who would do what if/when elected. We the People who let the leftists dismantle our country little by little until there is nothing left of the original. We the People who now wonder how to fix what we let crumble. When will we wake up?

When will we wake up? Never.

The voting doesn't matter, as we don't care at all about how the candidates are selected. And, it's both the left and the rino who are doing the dismantling.

 

[Ogre]

The way my grandchildren will live.

 

[SquonkHunter]

One must ask oneself, “What is the goal?”

If the goal is simply to avoid death, that becomes a hard puzzle indeed to solve. On the other hand, if the goal is to both live and die honorably, or righteously, that goal is attainable.

A metaphor of sorts:

Many years ago, back in my youth, I played some competitive chess. In one tournament I ended up playing the PA collegiate state champion. Everyone there (myself included) knew I had no chance of winning. This guy was mowing down everyone he had previously played in the tournament. He actually had an official global ranking, though I can’t remember now what that number was.

So, how does one approach such a situation? What is the goal?

Well, for better or worse, I decided to go down fighting. I refused to resign, even after the outcome of the game became more or less obvious on the chessboard. He would eventually beat me, but I wasn’t going to make it easy. The champ (an oriental kid) won the match in 56 moves, which is an eternity in a chess match. He was very frustrated and angry, though he was “the winner.”

I walked away from that experience quite happy and content.

So, again, what is the goal?

Reminds me of something I did in a previous life. I was playing a game of chess against someone I knew I couldn't beat. When it came to the point where my defeat was imminent, I started making highly erratic moves all over the board. I still lost the match but I completely blew my opponent's mind. He didn't want to play me again after that. Guess he thought I might have some slick move he didn't know about. Food for thought. If defeat is inescapable, go down giving the enemy a first-class mindf**k.

 

[ShadowMan]

If defeat is inescapable, go down giving the enemy a first-class mindf**k.

And do it with a mind numbing hyena like cackle. Squonk, your chess game reminded me of my younger brother during a neighborhood Risk game. My brother had one army left on Madagascar with no hope of relief as his. opponent had cleared everyone else in the game off the board.

In Risk if a defender rolls a "6" the attacker automatically loses. Now the attacker had blocked my brother off and built up a sizable army with the idea of just stomping my brother into the mud, like he had everyone else. Well.....it's didn't work out quite that way. I watched my brother rolled twenty-six "6's" in a row. Even changing dice several times as the attacker swore the dice were loaded. And with each roll my brother's hyena like cackle got louder and louder and louder and the attacker got madder and madder and madder.

On the twenty-seventh roll my brother rolled a "1" and he reached down and snatched up that lone army before the attacker could, gave it a kiss for it's bravery and retired it from the game forever. I thought the attacker was going to lose his ever loving mind. Oh, and BTW he refused to ever play another game with my brother.

TWENTY-SIX '6's" in a ROW. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't been sitting there watching it! IT WAS AWESOME!!

 

[Raggedyman]

This is what troubled me about the Jan 6th thing.....................the wrong target folks..........they should have been at the Fed Reserve building not the capital building.

Kill the head of the snake.

and immediately thereafter proceed to the headquarters of ALL MSM OUTLETS including the NYT, WAPO, NPR, FAUX

EVERY. LAST. ONE.​

 

[JeanCat]

All the time I was on a cane, I was still a deadly little bitch. Mindset.

Was your cane a shotgun?

 

[JeanCat]

One must ask oneself, “What is the goal?”

If the goal is simply to avoid death, that becomes a hard puzzle indeed to solve. On the other hand, if the goal is to both live and die honorably, or righteously, that goal is attainable.

A metaphor of sorts:

Many years ago, back in my youth, I played some competitive chess. In one tournament I ended up playing the PA collegiate state champion. Everyone there (myself included) knew I had no chance of winning. This guy was mowing down everyone he had previously played in the tournament. He actually had an official global ranking, though I can’t remember now what that number was.

So, how does one approach such a situation? What is the goal?

Well, for better or worse, I decided to go down fighting. I refused to resign, even after the outcome of the game became more or less obvious on the chessboard. He would eventually beat me, but I wasn’t going to make it easy. The champ (an oriental kid) won the match in 56 moves, which is an eternity in a chess match. He was very frustrated and angry, though he was “the winner.”

I walked away from that experience quite happy and content.

So, again, what is the goal?

I like your attitude.

 

[Babs]

"They" are a tiny minority!!! Why should I fear anything about them??? Why do we let a handful of people control millions???

 

[JeanCat]

They can come and do what they want with the flesh. They can't have the spirit.

Don’t let them do what they want with the flesh too easily. See Coalcracker’s #8 post for inspiration.

 

[JeanCat]

In the TV series Deep Space 9, at one point Miles O’Brien is sitting at the bar talking to a cardassian soldier. It’s clear that O’Brien hates the cardassian. After a little back-and-forth, Miles says, “I don’t hate you cardassian. I hate what I BECAME because of you.”

Applies perfectly to our present situation.

Good thought.

 

[JeanCat]

What am I going to do..............

The frog picture is spot on.

 

[JeanCat]

With goose loads ...

Will a 10 gauge work.

 

[stop tyranny]

Regardless.............its barking up the wrong tree to think the government is the problem.................they are the patsy and conduit......part of the problem yes...........but if you eliminate them without getting at the source then the next government will end up the same.

Capitalisms and Communism are pretty close to polar opposites but they both accomplish the same thing (which is wealth and control for the elites and economic slavery for the masses) when central bankers control it all.

1. Not patsies but accomplices.
2. The best anyone can hope for is a government with limited authority and abundant checks and balances to slow the spread of corruption and loss off the citizens freedom. But sooner or later ALL governments no matter how well planned or intended destroy themselves with their lust for power and greed.
3. In most cases what we call capitalism today is NOT true capitalism. In a capitalist system the success or failure of a business is determined by the how well run the business is. There are no taxpayer bailouts. No excessive governmental regulations. And there is no such thing as too big to fail.

 

[Raggedyman]

Think what the devastation would have been if the J6 group would have been armed and committed to stop the blatantly fraudulent election. Then think as millions of other citizens heard about the battle to stop the theft of their votes and a righteous cause to restore and preserve our nation. How many millions more would have joined? Every image and story of someone's mother, father, brother, sister, wife, husband, son, daughter, and other relatives as well as close friends being murdered by jackbooted thugs while defending our nation would have been the equivalent of pouring gas on a fire.

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what's been stated above NEEDED to be said and it NEEDED to be heard. what I'm about to say won't come across well to a certain percentage of folks here. I'll apologize in advance.

the kill dozer guy - Marvin Heemeyer​

the airplane into the IRS building - Mr Joe Stack - and there have been others

the truckers - both Canadian and American
up to and INCLUDING the jan 6 events

the problem with all of that?

THEY STOPPED SHORT
if you're gonna "take the field" . . .
then
TAKE IT​

the problem with men like Marvin and old Joe Stack? they were "outliers". far and few in between.

that's how it HAS BEEN - at least "for now". I'd imagine that it could become a "fashionable hobby" when what's left of this once great nation gets turned into "what are my kids gonna eat and how am I gonna get it for them" for increasing numbers of people. imagine if you will several hundred Marvin Heemeyers and Joe Stacks with absolutely nothing left to lose.

your enemy doesn't fear the nail gun FF lunatic in Ohio. he DOES FEAR masses of them. doubt that? look at the fortress DC became - OVERNIGHT.

when the "outliers" become the standard things will change. as Babs said up thread

WE are many - THEY are few​

 

[Raggedyman]

what troubles me the most is my life will never go back to what it was
and
my children and grandchildren will suffer

I'm not worried about what we had "going back to what it was". I fully believe those days are never going to return - at least in our life times. what bothers me to no end is that our CHILDREN and GRANDCHILDREN are going to have to live in what we left for them; that THEY will never have to opportunities that we had and in so many instances took fofr granted.

 

[KFhunter]

What troubles me the most?

Having to take a life after spending a career doing the opposite, but I’m ok with that considering the environment we now find ourselves living in.

You would be far more valuable continuing to save lives in the times to come.

 

[PghPanther]

1. Not patsies but accomplices.
2. The best anyone can hope for is a government with limited authority and abundant checks and balances to slow the spread of corruption and loss off the citizens freedom. But sooner or later ALL governments no matter how well planned or intended destroy themselves with their lust for power and greed.
3. In most cases what we call capitalism today is NOT true capitalism. In a capitalist system the success or failure of a business is determined by the how well run the business is. There are no taxpayer bailouts. No excessive governmental regulations. And there is no such thing as too big to fail.

I would agree with you.....................let me add that if the central banking system would only allow for the profit of money from money (usury) where the result of that process expands the supply of that money which matches the equivalent expansion of the real economy and not just solely a fiscal economy. It is simply the fact this not happening that it becomes of the root of all evil in society. In other words.........governments or usually end up downstream from the control of money..............our constitution knew this and didn't allow it........but we let it happen with formation of the Federal Reserve.

 

[Squid]

I think worrying about tomorrow is a waste of time. Thinking and preparing is an entirely different thing.

We sometimes forget or get sucked into media propaganda that the ‘they’ are all powerful and have great numbers, neither is true. They literally fear and constantly worry how to make you and I give up without fighting because their true numbers are very small. That and they are mostly pussies hidng behind others with guns that may not support their orders if they are ordered to kill us normals. Do you see the children of Brandon, Pelosi, Schumer et al manning barricades or putting on a uniform?

Their lies only have power over you if you believe lies.

 

[custom2006]

We have to stop and think: who is to blame for this mess we are in? It's us, We the People, who don't care enough to go and vote IN PERSON for the right people to lead us in the correct direction. We the People who would rather go to a movie than learn who would do what if/when elected. We the People who let the leftists dismantle our country little by little until there is nothing left of the original. We the People who now wonder how to fix what we let crumble. When will we wake up?

People have been voting for well over 200 years in this country! Look where it has gotten us. People are not going to vote their way out of this! Using government to fix government, will never work ....

 

[Granny Franny]

People have been voting for well over 200 years in this country! Look where it has gotten us. People are not going to vote their way out of this! Using government to fix government, will never work ....

You are most likely right, however it doesn't mean that we couldn't if people actually used their intelligence to vote.

 

[hoss]

You are not important enough for ‘they’ to come after you with drones and neither am I. The vast majority of Americans that will succomb during this time will do so from local violence, malnutrition, pestilence, freezing to death and losing their will to live in a world turned upside down.

Truth^^^

 

[Dozdoats]

Having to take a life after spending a career doing the opposite, but I’m ok with that considering the environment we now find ourselves living in.

The most efficient killers I have ever known were those who were also good at keeping the injured/wounded from dying.

 

[stop tyranny]

I would agree with you.....................let me add that if the central banking system would only allow for the profit of money from money (usury) where the result of that process expands the supply of that money which matches the equivalent expansion of the real economy and not just solely a fiscal economy. It is simply the fact this not happening that it becomes of the root of all evil in society. In other words.........governments or usually end up downstream from the control of money..............our constitution knew this and didn't allow it........but we let it happen with formation of the Federal Reserve.

We let it happen? The federal reserve act was shoved down the Americans throats in 1913 by bunch of corrupt politicians. As far as a group of non-governmental private banks creating a fiat currency Section 8 of the United States Constitution states ONLY congress has the authority to coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures. Since the Constitution would need to be amended to allow a private entity power to create currency was it ratified by the states to amend the Constitution?

 

[PghPanther]

We let it happen? The federal reserve act was shoved down the Americans throats in 1913 by bunch of corrupt politicians. As far as a group of non-governmental private banks creating a fiat currency Section 8 of the United States Constitution states ONLY congress has the authority to coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures. Since the Constitution would need to be amended to allow a private entity power to create currency was it ratified by the states to amend the Constitution?

Well I agree ..............we actually didn't let it happen.........that is we the people

I guess what I meant to say is exactly what you stated.........Wilson and his cronies let it happen..............

 

[Hfcomms]

You are most likely right, however it doesn't mean that we couldn't if people actually used their intelligence to vote.

I believe it was Einstein that said a definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

We used our intelligence to vote in 2020 and they stole the election not only from Trump but in a number of the downstream races. We shall see what happens in November as Biden’s real approval rating is around 15% if that and even most of the left is recoiling at the prices since Trump was deposed. The Republicans should take both the House and Senate back convincingly in November assuming we have in person voting.

If the left retains power it should dash the remaining hope that elections matter. As one wag said if elections really mattered they wouldn’t let you do it. Trump was never supposed to win in the first place but the hole that he slipped through appears to be well patched.

 

[Coco82919]

What bothers me the most? It is that we all saw it coming and did nothing. I told a Holocaust survivor that it could never happen here. We would stand and fight. Then someone shoots up a night club and someone put their head under the couch so he would not be shot in the head, so he was shot 3 times in the back. Yes he survived. Why did he not fight back? Why are we all not fighting back? It is because if we do we will be fighting alone. No one will stand behind us. People will shrug and say what an idiot. Life will continue down the same trajectory. That's why we don't fight back. We must all fight back at the same time with the same intensity knowing many of us will die in the process. But we must be willing to stand as one cohesive group. I don't think it will happen .

 

[EMICT]

Most conservatives know there is no way to vote out of this mess, however the pain level has not risen to the point of overt action. It took decades in the 1700’s for 3% of the population here in the Colonies to say ‘no more’.

Those 3% were ‘lucky’ in their achievements as most knew the true value of sacrifice. Keyboard warriors of today… not so much.

 

[GingerN]

"They" are a tiny minority!!! Why should I fear anything about them??? Why do we let a handful of people control millions???

1776 comes to mind, small, guerilla warfare troops against the best army in the world at that time...The Brits were the majority, and really weren't worried about a bunch of "farmers with pitchforks"

 

[Cowgirl4christ]

And do it with a mind numbing hyena like cackle. Squonk, your chess game reminded me of my younger brother during a neighborhood Risk game. My brother had one army left on Madagascar with no hope of relief as his. opponent had cleared everyone else in the game off the board.

In Risk if a defender rolls a "6" the attacker automatically loses. Now the attacker had blocked my brother off and built up a sizable army with the idea of just stomping my brother into the mud, like he had everyone else. Well.....it's didn't work out quite that way. I watched my brother rolled twenty-six "6's" in a row. Even changing dice several times as the attacker swore the dice were loaded. And with each roll my brother's hyena like cackle got louder and louder and louder and the attacker got madder and madder and madder.

On the twenty-seventh roll my brother rolled a "1" and he reached down and snatched up that lone army before the attacker could, gave it a kiss for it's bravery and retired it from the game forever. I thought the attacker was going to lose his ever loving mind. Oh, and BTW he refused to ever play another game with my brother.

TWENTY-SIX '6's" in a ROW. I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't been sitting there watching it! IT WAS AWESOME!!

I have to laugh at this because as soon as chess was mentioned, I immediately thought about what I do when someone wants me to play Risk. I try to destroy myself within 3 minutes. LOLOL I HATE that game and no one asks me to play. Good.

 

[von Koehler]

Well. From my mountain top view we are winning and nothing can stop that. The Deep State is running in desperation. That is why THEY are procrastinating in Arizona. Why THEY raided Trump. THEY are afraid and it smells good. THEY know THEY can’t win a gun fight and that is about all THEY have left. So sit tall in that saddle. We had our Alamo now San Jacinto is ours.

The only major defeat for the evil globalists so far is the reaction of the people of Sri Lanka.

They revolted against their WEF overlords and forced them into exile.

What it took was hunger. They are not politically motivated but just plain old starvation got them to move.

The Dutch farmers are starting to resist the dictates of the WEF and they grasped what's at stake.

But they are not yet at the point of throwing out their government. That's what is going to be necessary to stop the WEF elites.

And neither is America. We still have a pretender as President destroying this country.

Perhaps it will take widespread hunger to again be the motivation for change.

 

[von Koehler]

When will we wake up? Never.

The voting doesn't matter, as we don't care at all about how the candidates are selected. And, it's both the left and the rino who are doing the dismantling.

Disagree.

Hunger has been behind many revolutions. Politics is formed after, not before.

Starving is a great motivation for change.

The globalists will be defeated but at a high cost.

They will NOT give up power voluntarily.

 

[PghPanther]

I believe it was Einstein that said a definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

We used our intelligence to vote in 2020 and they stole the election not only from Trump but in a number of the downstream races. We shall see what happens in November as Biden’s real approval rating is around 15% if that and even most of the left is recoiling at the prices since Trump was deposed. The Republicans should take both the House and Senate back convincingly in November assuming we have in person voting.

If the left retains power it should dash the remaining hope that elections matter. As one wag said if elections really mattered they wouldn’t let you do it. Trump was never supposed to win in the first place but the hole that he slipped through appears to be well patched.

Einstein also said ......."there is a limit to intelligence but no limit to stupidity"