ECON Venezuelans Break Off Flakes of Gold to Pay for Meals, Haircuts

Sicario

The Executor
Venezuelans Break Off Flakes of Gold to Pay for Meals, Haircuts
To fathom the magnitude of Venezuela’s financial collapse, travel southeast from Caracas, past the oil fields and over the Orinoco River, and head deep into the savanna that blankets one of the remotest corners of the country.

There, in the barber shops and restaurants and hotels that constitute the main strip of one dusty little outpost after another, you’ll find prices displayed in grams of gold.

A one-night stay at a hotel? That’ll be half a gram. Lunch for two at a Chinese restaurant? A quarter of a gram. A haircut? An eighth of a gram, please. Jorge Pena, 20, figured that eighth came to three small flakes -- the equivalent of $5. After getting a trim one recent weekday in the town of Tumeremo, he handed them over to his barber, who, satisfied with Pena’s calculation, quickly pocketed them. “You can pay for everything with gold,” Pena says.

In the high-tech global economy of the 21st century, where tap-and-go transactions are the rage, this is about as low tech as it gets.

Most of the world moved on from gold as a medium of exchange over a century ago. Its resurfacing in Venezuela today is the most extreme manifestation of the repudiation of the local currency, the bolivar, that has swept the country. After years of meddling in the economy by Nicolas Maduro’s socialist regime, the bolivar has been rendered almost worthless by hyperinflation. (Maduro just lopped another six zeroes off it this month.)

In its place, the dollar has become the de facto choice in Caracas and other major cities. Along the western border with Colombia, the peso is the dominant currency. It’s used in more than 90% of transactions in the biggest city in the region, San Cristobal, according to the research firm Ecoanalitica. Down on the southern border with Brazil, the real is often the currency of choice. And the euro and cryptocurrencies have their niches in parts of the country, too.

“People simply stopped trusting the bolivar,” says economist Luis Vicente Leon, president of Caracas-based researcher Datanalisis. “It no longer fulfilled its function” as a store of wealth or a means of accounting or a medium of exchange.

Today, only the poorest Venezuelans -- those who lack easy access to dollars or other currencies -- still use bolivars. “People prefer any currency over the bolivar,” Leon says.

In parts of southeastern Venezuela, that currency is gold.

The land there, a stunning world of table-top mountains and giant waterfalls that cascade into lush valleys, is loaded with the precious metal. The temptation of overnight wealth has lured generations of wannabe miners, searing the names of the region’s towns -- El Callao and Guasipati -- into Venezuelan folklore.

The area is a violent, lawless place today, overrun by gangs and guerrillas. Shootouts with Maduro’s soldiers, who control many of the bigger mines, are common. And yet Venezuelans still come from all over, driven by a dearth of steady work after the decade-long economic depression.

The small-time operators of illegal mines typically pay day laborers in nuggets, so there’s plenty of bullion to be had. That steady supply, coupled with Internet reception that’s so shoddy that digital transactions are nearly impossible, makes gold the least-bad option for locals.

They use hand tools to break shards off nuggets and then carry them in their pockets, often wrapped in bolivar bills -- one of the few remaining uses for the currency. Stores have small scales, but some shopkeepers and consumers feel so comfortable handling the metal at this point that they evaluate the flakes by sight.

To the uninitiated outsider, this sounds wild.

How can authenticity and weight possibly be determined with a mere glance from someone untrained in the ways of mineralogy? Gold experts, though, back what the locals say: You just get a feel for it over time.

“Gold is an element,” explains Juan Carlos Artigas, head of research at World Gold Council in New York. Unlike diamonds, which are hard to evaluate, gold “has intrinsic characteristics, and there are specific things you can look for, especially in smaller pieces.”

The use of gold is slowly expanding into nearby cities, including Ciudad Bolivar, the state capital nestled along the banks of the Orinoco. Miners regularly travel there to sell their bullion when they want to cash out, and stores in shopping malls exchange it for dollars.

But back in mining towns like Tumeremo, there’s little need to carry anything other than gold.

The owner of a small hotel in town -- he’d only give his first name, Omar, out of concern for his safety -- says he pays his staff with gold, using the flakes he is handed by customers. He charges half a gram a night for a room.

About two-thirds of customers pay with gold, Omar estimates. He’ll also take dollars and other foreign currencies from those who don’t have gold on them. And what about bolivars? By law, he can’t say no, so he takes them reluctantly, he says, and then unloads them fast.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Which is why silver is so important. Seriously? FLAKES of gold? A thin dime would do the job just as well.
I found it odd too, but a second more careful reading suggested that the local mines supply this, not silver. Gold just seems to be what people have on hand, and are accustomed to dealing with.

"The small-time operators of illegal mines typically pay day laborers in nuggets, so there’s plenty of bullion to be had. That steady supply, coupled with Internet reception that’s so shoddy that digital transactions are nearly impossible, makes gold the least-bad option for locals."
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Can't pay with gold when tshtf?
Venezuelans showing us how to.

Necessity and distrust in the currency discovers the intrinsic value of the monetary metals once again. People that have metal can get meals, not have to stand in lines and pay for services once things start to function after a collapse. In the midst of collapse there won’t be much to buy so you definitely need preps and especially food preps but in time people return to what has worked for 5000 years.

This is our future. The government will attempt to reboot the dollar and make it totally digital but they are rapidly eroding what little trust remains and people won’t trust the digital dollar either. What they will trust is tangible hard assets and leading the way will be what always was. This time is not different.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Zimbabwe was the first place I recall reading about modern small scale gold miners using gold they recovered to pay for their daily bread. Note that the date on this article is 19 Oct 2021... also note the crime situation.
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Zimbabwean artisanal miners take the law into their own hands – Report Focus (reportfocusnews.com)

Zimbabwean artisanal miners take the law into their own hands

By Brilliant Pongo on October 19, 2021
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The vexed question of what role the public should play in fighting crime is again dominating the headlines. This comes after a video of supposed artisanal miners went viral. In the video a group of men are seen torturing an alleged thief.
Reportedly there has been a sharp rise in the number of cases of artisanal miners taking the law into their own hands. This in many cases in attempts to respond to or resolve disputes or issues.
The issue of street justice and brutally dealing with thieves in the streets and neighbourhoods is not new to Zimbabwe.
Watch Video Below

It is perhaps, worse in South Africa where it can get very extreme. There have been cases of the infamous ‘necklacing’. This is a case in which thieves are burnt to death by putting a used car tyre around their neck and setting it ablaze.

Conversely, when members of the public take the law into their own hands, they punish someone or do something to put a situation right, instead of waiting for the police or the legal system to take action.

Nonetheless, in most if not all cases when the public take the law into their own hand they themselves break the law, they commit a crime in the very process.

A video currently in circulation of a young man being tortured by a gang of men believed to be Zimbabwean artisanal miners has highlighted the levels of brutality involved in the artisanal gold mining trade.

Most often than not those in this trade commonly known as (mashurugwi) or Makorokoza are known to be adept at executing violence and taking the law into their own hands to settle disputes.
https://www.reportfocusnews.com/202...ni-arrested-over-foreign-exchange-violations/
Many-a-dead- bodies, are believed to be buried in disused mine-shafts and shallow graves strewn across the bushes where these miners search for the lucrative metal across Zimbabwe.

But that said it is this latest brutal video that has gone viral which highlights the barbarity and savagery involved in the makorokoza business (artisanal gold mining).

The young man in the video is accused of having a gun and stealing equipment and cash amounting six thousand USDollars.
They appear to be burning his feet with a red hot metal bar, forcing a confession out of him.

He tells them that his friend has ‘the gun hidden in the bush’ and that he can go and give them the stolen goods and the cash.
He also tells them that the money (the six thousand USDollars) is with his landlord. He pleads with them to untie him from the torture contraption. He says he will lead them to where the money is.

Sadly, the men torturing him don’t seem too keen on releasing him.

The continue to punish him ordering him to only speak when answering questions.

It is still unclear who these individuals are and if the young thief who stole from these seemingly brutal thugs survived this ordeal.
There have been mixed reactions to this video from Zimbabweans across many social media platforms.

Many commentators bemoaned the fact that the levels of violence and criminality was reflective of a society that had lost its moral compass and integrity, due to corruption in the nation’s leadership.

Others opined that they felt nothing for criminals, suggesting that the young man got what he deserved.
https://www.reportfocusnews.com/202...fecting-business-south-africa-tells-zimbabwe/
This is what happens when corruption clouds society and individuals feel the need to take the law into their own hands and act with such impunity and disregard for the law.

Indeed, it’s a jungle out there, as such he with the strongest arm rules the roost.

It is clear that the police need to maintain public support to prevent increasing numbers of people taking the law into their own hands. It is less clear how the Zimbabwe Republic Police can achieve this given the majority of the public in Zimbabwe think they are open to corruption. The police in Zimbabwe are not rated as anywhere near professional and are perpetrators of the worst violence themselves.

Many Zimbabwean citizens believe any thief with the right amount of bribery can get away with anything even murder.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Venezuela has more gold than silver mines, and some areas also have precious metal mining. The area mostly covered in this article is the "Wild South" which I have only been in as far as Barqucimeto which was kind of the Northernmost edge of that area.

Colombia also has huge amounts of gold, which has been used locally for thousands of years; from the article, it looks like some of that is also being smuggled into Venezuela via the San Cristobol route in the Andes (I spent to Christmas Seasons in San Cristobol during happier times - it is the main boarder route between the two countries, in the mountains).
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The half-gram of gold mentioned in the OP as the rate the hotelier charges for a room is roughly $30 US, which sounds about right for a decent 2nd or 3rd world hotel room.

This excerpt, "People simply stopped trusting the bolivar,” says economist Luis Vicente Leon, president of Caracas-based researcher Datanalisis. “It no longer fulfilled its function” as a store of wealth or a means of accounting or a medium of exchange," says everything you need to know. This is coming to the United States as the current Federal Reserve Notes continuously lose value. When the ultimate collapse will occur I can't say, but I can say with absolute certainty that all fiat currencies eventually die. It has even happened in the United States previously, as witnessed by the original Continental Dollars and later, the Civil War Greenbacks.

Of course, as with all things financial, there is deception and duplicity. The Civil War Greenbacks had plummeted to near worthlessness, but elite insiders were given the word that the government would later be honoring them at par. The elites bought all the Greenbacks they could find for pennies and then later traded them in for full face value.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Best
Doc
 

Sid Vicious

Veteran Member
Venezuela hasn't collapsed for the most part; it is considered a failed state.

As far as gold and other PMS... One of the best quotes I've heard was from a former Yugoslavian.

In a collapse you won't barter shit. You will take what you want, if you can, and lose what you have, if you can't. The only valuables in a "collapse" are guns, ammo, water, food, drugs, and pussy. In that order.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
This is what happens when corruption clouds society and individuals feel the need to take the law into their own hands and act with such impunity and disregard for the law.

When the law becomes lawless the people have to pickup the slack.

I dont agree with doing what the miners did to the thief, but some kind of punishment is needed to discourage others to not thieve.
 
Not if you don't have any.

This is why all my one ounce gold is gone and I only kept fractional gold. It concentrated TOO MUCH value for everyday business. And I keep non-premium 'heritage' silver - dimes and quarters- for the same reason. An ounce of silver concentrates too much value in the real world.
I'm sad cuz I had some silver I didn't touch for 15 yrs and had to cash it all in when my ex deserted me. It saved my life though. Paid car insurance and other bills. I am doing better though. Hope to be divorced by Christmas so I can get my half of his 401k before the stock market crashes. Gonna buy more silver then if it's not sky high.
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
FAFO

It's the only way to be sure. No question or theory will be proven true/false till the shit hits your fan directly.

Good times. I'm already weary.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
EXACTLY!!! That’s my problem with crypto.

That should be your problem with stocks, bonds, 401K's, etc., as well. And there are more people out there that are holding digital or paper gold and silver than the real thing.

NOTE what Melodi said, the people in the OP are used to dealing in gold, flakes, nuggets, etc. Your average american not so much.

Case in point many years ago I stopped in at Arby's to get a sandwich. Gave them cash with the expectation of some coinage coming back. Instead of a quarter the kid gave me a gold one dollar coin. Could not convince him it was a gold coin, nor his manager. Sigh.

I'm planning to buy some silver and gold chains here this week. I don't have access to flakes or nuggets living here in Iowa. From what I understand the only gold in the state lies under downtown Des Moines in an old abandoned mine.
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
That should be your problem with stocks, bonds, 401K's, etc., as well. And there are more people out there that are holding digital or paper gold and silver than the real thing.

NOTE what Melodi said, the people in the OP are used to dealing in gold, flakes, nuggets, etc. Your average american not so much.

Case in point many years ago I stopped in at Arby's to get a sandwich. Gave them cash with the expectation of some coinage coming back. Instead of a quarter the kid gave me a gold one dollar coin. Could not convince him it was a gold coin, nor his manager. Sigh.

I'm planning to buy some silver and gold chains here this week. I don't have access to flakes or nuggets living here in Iowa. From what I understand the only gold in the state lies under downtown Des Moines in an old abandoned mine.
Oh… it is. Same for SS, Medicare, et. al.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
the kid gave me a gold one dollar coin. Could not convince him it was a gold coin, nor his manager. Sigh.

It was not GOLD - it was goldEN. There WAS a one dollar gold coin, back when we had real money. It was about the size of your little fingernail. Gold Dollars (1849-1889) | Coin Explorer | NGC (ngccoin.com)


The first gold dollars made in the United States were privately minted issues produced about 1830 by a German immigrant named Alt Christoph Bechtler who operated a jewelry shop in Rutherfordton, North Carolina. Finding that gold dust and nuggets were the primary medium of exchange in the area, Bechtler ran a series of ads in the North Carolina Spectator and Western Advertiser offering to refine raw gold into coins for a nominal fee.

By 1840, Bechtler and his family had turned out more than $2.2 million worth of gold coins, of which about half were gold dollars. This was perfectly legal under the existing federal statutes—but, even so, Uncle Sam began to watch the Bechtlers closely. The success of their venture led to calls for government-issue gold dollar coins. In 1836, Congress even authorized such coins, but Mint Director Robert M. Patterson opposed the idea vehemently and limited his compliance to striking a handful of patterns.


California Gold Rush leads to official US gold coinage

The gold dollar didn’t take its place in the U.S. coinage lineup until 1849, and yet another gold rush—this one in California—provided the spark. The discovery of gold at Sutter’s Mill in 1848 energized Congress to expand existing uses of the metal in U.S. coinage and find some new ones.

Mint Director Patterson was still on the scene and still opposed such coinage, but this time his resistance was swept aside. On March 3, 1849, Congress passed legislation authorizing not only gold dollars but also double eagles—$20 gold pieces. Thus did the nation’s smallest and largest regular-issue gold coins emerge from Washington’s womb as fraternal twins.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
The hell it doesn't. An actual gold coin the size of a quarter would be worth over $500. :D

But people are ignorant. One of my nieces bought an old British sovereign in Hawaii for about a quarter from an antique shop when she was a little girl. The owner thought it was brass. Also worth about $500 .......
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
I’ve got a bunch of ‘golden’ dollars I purposefully obtained at Disneyworld’s Old Tavern. I had to drink a lot of coffee to obtain those dollars, but wanted them for sentimental reasons. They ain’t gold, but they are souvenirs.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The hell it doesn't. An actual gold coin the size of a quarter would be worth over $500. :D

But people are ignorant. One of my nieces bought an old British sovereign in Hawaii for about a quarter from an antique shop when she was a little girl. The owner thought it was brass. Also worth about $500 .......
I inherited a “five dollar gold piece” that’s pretty old. I’ll look to see what’s on it but I think it’s 1880.
Eagle on one side, a woman with a crown of some sort on the other side.
Maybe I should get it appraised.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Half eagles were minted from 1795 until 1929. The half eagle was the first US gold coin. Your description sounds like the classic Liberty design (1839-1908).

What $5 used to buy ... before inflation. :D THIS is why the US Dollar WAS so respected and desired in the past.

Values are determined by mint, date and condition. Professional appraisal would be required for an accurate valuation. This design was minted at all existing mints, those from Charlotte, Carson City and Dahlonega are more rare.
 
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OldAndCrazy

Pureblood Forever
In the end, PM's rule. No, Virginia, you can't eat gold but you can buy a great meal with it all day long.

I also stack plenty of 22LR. Could be better than Au at the right time.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
“People simply stopped trusting the bolivar,” says economist Luis Vicente Leon, president of Caracas-based researcher Datanalisis. “It no longer fulfilled its function” as a store of wealth or a means of accounting or a medium of exchange.

The LITERAL 'money graph' from the OP ...

Got MONEY?
 

All4liberty

Senior Member
Get rid of those FRN's as fast as you can convert them into something tangible.

The most important line in the article was this " the dollar has become the de facto choice in Caracas " because everyone may be real surprised at what deflation looks like if it overtakes inflation.

What I mean is they are doing everything they can to inflate this bubble, if big bankruptcies like in China start rolling, the debt for a company is wiped out, suddenly dollars start to disappear in the system. Yes, the dollar may become stronger not weaker, so I would take all the FRN's you want to get rid of. It is still the best looking ugly girl in the bar.

With that said, yes if you need something tangible get it while you can, but you might want to wait for the fire sale.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
The hell it doesn't. An actual gold coin the size of a quarter would be worth over $500. :D

But people are ignorant. One of my nieces bought an old British sovereign in Hawaii for about a quarter from an antique shop when she was a little girl. The owner thought it was brass. Also worth about $500 .......
IIRC the Sakajawea, or Harriet Tubmann (?) coin was tinted gold color, and valued at one dollar. It is the same size as a quarter. Hated and failed from the start - it didn't last long, but they exist. We have one.
 
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