HEALTH TWO EBOLA PATIENTS RELEASED --Nancy Writebol 8/19; Brantley 8/21

[Hfcomms]

Omg!!! Watching a direct satellite feed. The doctor was asked how did the patients become infected with Ebola since they were following all the precautions? What's the answer....you ready? The answer is 'We don't know how they became infected and neither do they!' And in almost the next breath he says they were released because 'we know they are no threat to public health'.

 

[Countrymouse]

You are safe, and the antibodies to Ebola now found in your blood can be used to make more of the serum that may have helped save these two.

I'm sorry, Farmer John, but you are thinking of BACTERIA, not viruses.

Viruses can MUTATE---so a serum made of a person who has recovered from a virus can ONLY be used successfully on a person who has THAT SPECIFIC VERSION of that virus.

That is why the "flu" vaccinations every year are only PARTIALLY effective. They give 'some' level of protection, but are by no means a 100% guarantee that you will NOT get the flu.

 

[Countrymouse]

Omg!!! Watching a direct satellite feed. The doctor was asked how did the patients become infected with Ebola since they were following all the precautions? What's the answer....you ready? The answer is 'We don't know how they became infected and neither do they!' And in almost the next breath he says they were released because 'we know they are no threat to public health'.

Dear Lord Jesus....

 

[Countrymouse]

HFComms----all feeds to the news conference in Atlanta have now gone back to "regular programming", so PLEASE give us any other pertinent info you can!---Thanks!!!

 

[Hfcomms]

He said that basic infectious precautions are all that hospitals need to do to treat Ebola patients (even though his patients were treated in BLS-4 negative pressure rooms). When asked how he knows they are not infectious his answer......'To the extent of our testing we know they are not infectious.. I'm just in disbelief to what I'm hearing here. It's full court press to convince people that Ebola is really no big deal here.

 

[ainitfunny]

I hope they tested his SEMEN and he knows NOT TO HAVE SEX for at least a month with his wife. HE MAY BE RECOVERED, BUT CAN STILL KILL HIS WIFE IF HE HAS SEX WITH HER TOO SOON.

 

[Countrymouse]

He said that basic infectious precautions are all that hospitals need to do to treat Ebola patients (even though his patients were treated in BLS-4 negative pressure rooms). When asked how he knows they are not infectious his answer......'To the extent of our testing we know they are not infectious.. I'm just in disbelief to what I'm hearing here. It's full court press to convince people that Ebola is really no big deal here.

The next pertinent question being:


WHO is PUTTING PRESSURE on CDC or Emory or both to release these patients after only "two blood tests and 3 days of feeling better" so as to PROVE to everyone in the United States that "we have NOTHING TO FEAR from ebola"?


Whose interest does that serve?


A multitude of possibilities....

 

[Hfcomms]

He's now saying virus can remain in semen for several months but Dr. Brandtly was not tested for virus in semen because they don't feel it's a likely mode of transmission. The question was asked about virus testing in other body fluids and he's being incredibly evasive (IMO) he's saying that all CDC recommendations have been followed before the patient's release.

 

[Countrymouse]

He said that basic infectious precautions are all that hospitals need to do to treat Ebola patients (even though his patients were treated in BLS-4 negative pressure rooms).

Help my memory here---isn't "basic infectious disease precations" what EVERY normal Emergency-Room nurse / technician / doctor would follow when a patient comes in with an unknown illness presenting symptoms of fever, intestinal upset / diarrhea / vomiting?


JUST LIKE THE NIGERIAN HOSPITAL STAFF DID WITH THOMAS SAWYER???

 

[Hfcomms]

Doctor now asked about him hugging all the staff. Doctor responded that they've developed a close relationship with him and that by hugging everyone it demonstrates that nobody is concerned about him. And yet the doctors don't know how they caught Ebola and neither do the patients. The questions seem to be that the questioners are not quite buying all the assertions of the doctor.

I don't know if the doctor is being totally honest or transparent in his assertions but I'm thinking that so much horse manure is being produced that their has to be a pony around.

 

[Countrymouse]

He's now saying virus can remain in semen for several months but Dr. Brandtly was not tested for virus in semen because they don't feel it's a likely mode of transmission. The question was asked about virus testing in other body fluids and he's being incredibly evasive (IMO) he's saying that all CDC recommendations have been followed before the patient's release.

This is freaking unbelievable.


I knew to expect CDC to play CYA---we have watched them for YEARS make VERY Bad and VERY visible mistakes (the anthrax being the latest)

but it seems here the CDC are evening choosing to deceive THEMSELVES---as if just by WILLING it to be so and playing "fantasy-thinking," they can make ebola less virulent than it is and simply deny the Canadian studies, the WHO guidelines and info, and the daily mounting evidence coming out of Africa.


WHY?

 

[Countrymouse]

Doctor now asked about him hugging all the staff. Doctor responded that they've developed a close relationship with him and that by hugging everyone it demonstrates that nobody is concerned about him. And yet the doctors don't know how they caught Ebola and neither do the patients. The questions seem to be that the questioners are not quite buying all the assertions of the doctor.

I don't know if the doctor is being totally honest or transparent in his assertions but I'm think that so much horse manure is being produced that their has to be a pony around.

"by hugging everyone it demonstrates that nobody is concerned about him."


And THAT seems to be the MAIN POINT of this entire news conference---nothing to be concerned about here...move along...

 

[Countrymouse]

anything more, HFComms?

 

[Hfcomms]

He's asked about personal protective equipment. He says CDC guidelines and reiterating that ebola is not spread by the air.. Says there is a droplet danger with certain procedures however. Was asked how come their people were treating the patients in the 'moon' suits and why he is maintaining that only basic infectious precautions are necessary for treating other patients. Hemmed and hawed for a moment and then said that his staff members were in the room for 3 to 4 hours at a time and they discovered that the face shields fogged up so for the length of time they were in the rooms it was easier to wear the full suits.

Then was asked about what recommendations were made to Dr Brandtly about his semen and other fluids before his release and the doctor said that he referred him to the CDC recommendations. With that the news conference ended.

So much they dont know about the disease including how his patients caught it but on the other hand they do know you can't catch it through the air and if you avoid body fluids you won't catch it.....yet the patient's did!

 

[ainitfunny]

The EMBARASSING "Elephant in the room" may be that even though he may have been QUITE ILL, He may not have had EBOLA itself. They may have evacuated him for proper hospital care, NOT that they REALLY thought he actually had Ebola. BUT, getting him out was made easier by asserting that he MAY have Ebola. BUT the "He may have Ebola" story quickly took on a life of it's own and it was better, LESS EMBARRASSING to say he was cured from EBola rather than that he actually had some OTHER ILLNESS.

OF course, It SURE PROMOTES AN AFRICAN'S WILLINGNESS TO BE "GUINEA PIGS" FOR NEW, EXPERIMENTAL, UNTESTED VACCINES when the Blacks THINK it cured an American doctor, (who may have gotten the vaccine, but may have never had the disease, GETS "CURED".
That vaccine didn't help the Spanish priest WHO REALLY DID HAVE EBOLA.

 

[Hfcomms]

It will take me some time to digest what I heard and hopefully there will be a YouTube of the full interview. Just seems like a whopper of a contradiction to me to have treated these patients in one of the few BL-4 facilities and then out of the other side of his mouth to say that virtually any hospital can successfully treat these patients with gowns, masks and gloves. But they don't know how the doctor who did all this and more caught it. The meme' seems to be don't worry, we got it covered. Won't be a big deal in the U.S. Maybe Blizzard and a few of our other doctors and nurses can chime in here. I know enough with my bio warfare training that they are drastically downplaying the threat and crossing their fingers behind their backs.

 

[Countrymouse]

I hope Summerthyme, Medical Maven, and Doomer Doug chime in here---they three have been following developments pretty closely on the bi-weekly Ebola thread and I'd like to have their thoughts on all this.

 

[Medical Maven]

It will take me some time to digest what I heard and hopefully there will be a YouTube of the full interview. Just seems like a whopper of a contradiction to me to have treated these patients in one of the few BL-4 facilities and then out of the other side of his mouth to say that virtually any hospital can successfully treat these patients with gowns, masks and gloves. But they don't know how the doctor who did all this and more caught it. The meme' seems to be don't worry, we got it covered. Won't be a big deal in the U.S. Maybe Blizzard and a few of our other doctors and nurses can chime in here. I know enough with my bio warfare training that they are drastically downplaying the threat and crossing their fingers behind their backs.

I think that Hfcomms has it pretty well-covered with his statement above.

But I will add that they are not addressing the real problem with this New Ebola. It is a "black box". We don't know what is going to come out of it. As Pixie noted over at the PFI Forum no "gain of function" studies have been done with it, (as far as we know). What will happen when it passages through many people in Africa? Will it mutate further and become even more of a "black box" This is Terra Incognita. And from the fast stepping at that news conference one can see that it was all about manipulation and not about public health, that it was all about keeping the health care system from collapsing this coming flu season. They are "betting on come" with a World Killer Virus.

And if some HCWs become New Ebola Fodder, that is the price they have to pay in order for the bureaucracy to declare a victory in keeping the already screeching wheels turning round.

 

[night driver]

Help my memory here---isn't "basic infectious disease precations" what EVERY normal Emergency-Room nurse / technician / doctor would follow when a patient comes in with an unknown illness presenting symptoms of fever, intestinal upset / diarrhea / vomiting?


JUST LIKE THE NIGERIAN HOSPITAL STAFF DID WITH THOMAS SAWYER???

IN THEORY.
In DEVELOPED COUNTRIES.

This is true.

Nigeria?

Not so much.

 

[night driver]

PLUS the FACT that virtually all of us tend to be kind of cavalier with "Universal Precautions" in daily operation/daily working.

 

[Sammy]

Wasn't there just a post... I think it was yesterday....
That a nurse, can't remember if it was through contact with Sawyer in South Africa, who had become infected, tested positive, became ill and recovered.... then suddenly died from this New Ebola?
I can't find the post right now... but I remember discussion about how this may "hide in the body" and then reappear just as deadly....
If so... this is definitely not good....

 

[PyratePrincess]

Wasn't there just a post... I think it was yesterday....
That a nurse, can't remember if it was through contact with Sawyer in South Africa, who had become infected, tested positive, became ill and recovered.... then suddenly died from this New Ebola?
I can't find the post right now... but I remember discussion about how this may "hide in the body" and then reappear just as deadly....
If so... this is definitely not good....

I'm looking for the same type of post. I thought it said doctor, but I remember in BOLD type it said he/she DROPPED DEAD...

 

[Lilbitsnana]

Wasn't there just a post... I think it was yesterday....
That a nurse, can't remember if it was through contact with Sawyer in South Africa, who had become infected, tested positive, became ill and recovered.... then suddenly died from this New Ebola?
I can't find the post right now... but I remember discussion about how this may "hide in the body" and then reappear just as deadly....
If so... this is definitely not good....

yes. look on the main Ebola thread

 

[Sammy]

I'm looking for the same type of post. I thought it said doctor, but I remember in BOLD type it said he/she DROPPED DEAD...

Found it on the Main Ebola thread... page 10 post number 364...
Treated, recovered and released...

Hmmmm.... sound familiar?

Sigh... sure hope this doesn't happen here....

 

[Jubilee on Earth]

In two words SMOKE SCREEN.

I believe this as well, for several reasons. One of which that I read in the Hot Zone that survivors of Ebola look like chemo patients. They lose all their hair, their skin is horrendous, and it takes them weeks to gain their strength enough to stand or walk. Now granted they now have "the cure" but he looks the same as he did before.

 

[Sacajawea]

Another "wag the dog" maybe? Who benefits from the threat of a pandemic? (With regional wars raging, potential terrorist attacks at home... because our government can't perform one of it's basic functions - defending the border... and ongoing financial stress.)

Who benefits from a) first creating a scare and then b) saying there's nothing at all to worry about?

 

[summerthyme]

I was thinking he looks AMAZINGLY good for someone who was at death's door, what? Three weeks ago?

Heck... when I had MRSA, I never came close to dying, and I lost over 35# and was as weak as a kitten when I got home... I couldn't have walked along an entire row of people hugging all of them without falling over. Something about this particular case (or cases) is really starting to bug me...

Summerthyme

 

[Countrymouse]

Found it on the Main Ebola thread... page 10 post number 364...
Treated, recovered and released...

Hmmmm.... sound familiar?

Sigh... sure hope this doesn't happen here....

From the link given in that post:

Ebola Patients Flee Saudi Hospital and ‘Cured’ Doctor Drops Dead From The Disease

Chris Carrington
The Daily Sheeple
August 20th, 2014

What the circled area says is:

Adedavoh becomes the fifth Nigerian to die from the virus, excluding Sawyer. She had been discharged from the Centre for Infectious Disease Control at Yaba Lagos after recovering from the disease.

The Minister of Health for Nigeria has confirmed the death as Ebola related. So, we have an apparently recovered patient who is discharged from medical care who then drops dead…apparently from Ebola. Has something changed in the virus that it re-emerges or is it a case that there was a false negative test result?

Ebola is unpredictable at the best of times, presenting a wide variety of symptoms, and incubating anywhere from two days to 21 days. As a virus Ebola is able to mutate and change just like any other replicator virus can, let’s hope that’s not the case.

If false negatives are possible maybe the test should be repeated on all patients before they are released back into the community. It also makes you wonder if any of the people who have tested negative around the world have Ebola in some form. The United states, Canada ,Austrailia, Spain, Kenya and Scotland have all released patients who have had negative test results, and these are just ones that have made the news.


- See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/ebol...-disease_082014#sthash.MvVapaTx.wFX2g1pC.dpuf

 

[Countrymouse]

I believe this as well, for several reasons. One of which that I read in the Hot Zone that survivors of Ebola look like chemo patients. They lose all their hair, their skin is horrendous, and it takes them weeks to gain their strength enough to stand or walk. Now granted they now have "the cure" but he looks the same as he did before.

IIRC, the early articles were very free with information about Dr. Brantley and Nurse Writebol---I seem to remember that Dr. Brantley lives up there in North Carolina near where Samaritan's Purse is headquartered; not sure about Mrs. Writebol.

 

[Jubilee on Earth]

Another "wag the dog" maybe? Who benefits from the threat of a pandemic? (With regional wars raging, potential terrorist attacks at home... because our government can't perform one of it's basic functions - defending the border... and ongoing financial stress.)

Who benefits from a) first creating a scare and then b) saying there's nothing at all to worry about?

My only guess is that "they" already know it's a matter if time before it starts running rampant here, and they want as much time as possible before mass panic sets in. If the sheeple believe that Ebola is curable and is no worse than a bout of pneumonia, then the initial reports of outbreaks here in the US won't be so alarming. It probably buys them an extra month or so before social media starts telling a different story. What they'd do with that extra time is anyone's guess...