CORONA Treatment for the COVID vaccine (if you must take it)

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moldy

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Since it has become abundantly clear that many of us will have to take it or be out of a job, I wanted to start this thread for suggestions as to how to counter any side effects (or the stated effects) of the jab. This should not be construed as medical advice, as I am not a physician.

Suggestions I have heard:
About one hour prior to the shot, take 12 mg ivermectin and 30,000 IU Vitamin D. Apply ice pack as soon as possible to injection site after shot. Take another 12 mg ivermectin six days post injection.

Apply ice immediately after injection, then a drawing poultice (charcoal or prickly pear leaf sliced in half with the sticky side toward skin) for up to 3 days afterwards.
 
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summerthyme

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moldy said:
Since it has become abundantly clear that many of us will have to take it or be out of a job, I wanted to start this thread for suggestions as to how to counter any side effects (or the stated effects) of the jab. This should not be construed as medical advice, as I am not a physician.

Suggestions I have heard:
About one hour prior to the shot, take 12 mg ivermectin and 30,000 IU Vitamin D. Apply ice pack as soon as possible to injection site after shot. Take another 12 mg ivermectin six days post injection.

Apply ice immediately after injection, then a drawing poultice (charcoal or prickly pear leaf sliced in half with the sticky side toward skin) for up to 3 days afterwards.
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I was thinking if I was required to take it (possibly in order to get the back surgery I need badly) I'd make up a charcoal poultice and have it in my purse... slap it on as soon as I get out of their sight. Or... I wonder what a Sawyer extractor would do?

I also would take cayenne tincture for several days (at least) to preemptively address clotting issues.

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Wildwood

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I've thought about a blood thinner and Benadryl. Aspirin thins the blood but I'm allergic. Of course that wouldn't help long term but may keep you alive during the first few days when the clotting issue and allergic reaction would be at it's worst.
 
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I do the ice pack after flu jab. If I have to take it to keep my job I'll be slapping it on right in front of them. What can they do? I was wondering about Ivermectin and maybe a baby ASA. I'd want the ice more than the poultice. The needle only makes a tiny opening I'm not sure how much help that would be. Definately a big dose of Vitamin D and zinc. Sigh. I can't believe this is where we are as a nation.....
 
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Wildwood said:
I've thought about a blood thinner and Benadryl. Aspirin thins the blood but I'm allergic. Of course that wouldn't help long term but may keep you alive during the first few days when the clotting issue and allergic reaction would be at it's worst.
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That's why I suggested cayenne. I don't know how it works, but I've seen it work on Reynauds syndrome, heart attacks, and strokes. I also credit it for stopping my 5 day eye bleed...

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Wildwood

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summerthyme said:
That's why I suggested cayenne. I don't know how it works, but I've seen it work on Reynauds syndrome, heart attacks, and strokes. I also credit it for stopping my 5 day eye bleed...

Summerthyme
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I like that idea but I'm confused about using a blood thinner to stop an eye bleed unless it was caused by a clot. I wish I had your knowledge but I don't have enough years left to get there.
 
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Wildwood said:
I like that idea but I'm confused about using a blood thinner to stop an eye bleed unless it was caused by a clot. I wish I had your knowledge but I don't have enough years left to get there.
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LOL! Yep, cayenne is weird. Absolutely works as a clot buster, but applied to a bleeding wound, it speeds clotting. I have no clue- I've just seen it work! I need a couple more lifetimes to explore this stuff in depth!

The eye bleed may well have just *finally* run its course, but the docs were all muttering about cauterizng surgery, because they generally don't (apparently) stop on their own after so long.

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Wildwood

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summerthyme said:
LOL! Yep, cayenne is weird. Absolutely works as a clot buster, but applied to a bleeding wound, it speeds clotting. I have no clue- I've just seen it work! I need a couple more lifetimes to explore this stuff in depth!

The eye bleed may well have just *finally* run its course, but the docs were all muttering about cantering surgery, because they generally don't (apparently) stop on their own after so long.

Summerthyme
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When my mother was a child living in the mountains, she fell and got a pretty big cut on her forehead. Nothing my grandmother tried would stop the bleeding. The nearest neighbor, a woman considered a little crazy, showed up, grabbed my mother and filled the cut with black pepper. The bleeding stopped immediately. My arrogant grandfather came home shortly thereafter, had a fit and washed all the black pepper out of the wound which immediately started back bleeding profusely. The pepper was reapplied and the bleeding stopped for good.

I always assumed the dryness of the pepper helped it clot but now I'm thinking it was something in the pepper itself that stopped it. The reason I thought it was the dryness is because my other grandmother was home alone, also in the mountains with no close neighbors when a small capillary on her face started bleeding after she washed it. It was only a trickle but would not stop. After a few hours, she got scared and eventually put flour on it and it stopped. The same thing happened to me in my twenties and I remembered that story about the flour. It worked for me too.
 
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ginnie6 said:
I can attest to it working both ways! When my youngest was born cayenne stopped me hemorrhaging long enough to get to the hospital. It also thins blood enough to bring my bp down.
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Do you take it as needed or on a regular basis for your blood pressure and how much if you don't mind.
 
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Wildwood said:
Do you take it as needed or on a regular basis for your blood pressure and how much if you don't mind.
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For years I took it on a regular basis and took quite a bit. I think I was taking 3 capsules in the morning and 3 in the evening when it started bothering my stomach. Now I take it occasionally with food.
 
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ginnie6 said:
For years I took it on a regular basis and took quite a bit. I think I was taking 3 capsules in the morning and 3 in the evening when it started bothering my stomach. Now I take it occasionally with food.
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Hubby takes it for his Reynauds syndrome... without it, his hands turn dead white at 50 degrees, now (it used to only affect him in bitter cold). He puts 5-10 drops in a cup of coffee every morning, and will take another dose later if he needs it. I used 5 drops every 2 hours for my eye bleed...

For a heart attack or stroke, 1-2 DROPPERS FULL, (not drops) under the tongue. *while calling 911*- you still have to deal with the damage and underlying cause!

Summerthyme
 
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summerthyme said:
Hubby takes it for his Reynauds syndrome... without it, his hands turn dead white at 50 degrees, now (it used to only affect him in bitter cold). He puts 5-10 drops in a cup of coffee every morning, and will take another dose later if he needs it. I used 5 drops every 2 hours for my eye bleed...

For a heart attack or stroke, 1-2 DROPPERS FULL, (not drops) under the tongue. *while calling 911*- you still have to deal with the damage and underlying cause!

Summerthyme
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They gave me cayenne tea when I was hemorrhaging and it slowed it until I got to the hospital and yes on the phone with 911 at the time. Cayenne and God I say.
 
Griz3752

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summerthyme said:
cayenne and Reynaud's syndrome
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My last wife suffered from Reynaud's and tried any home, prescription or OTC treatment she could find, all to no avail. If you've seen positive relief, on what body type ? Blood type might enter into it I suppose; Helen was tall & slender (almost painfully so), type O, a smoker &, unfortunately what I consider a heavy drinker. She was struggling with that when I met her. Her metabolism was high as she couldn't gain weight which might also be a factor.

In any event her Reynaud's kicked in at about 45F (70 degrees above F-freezing) which I think would rate as severe. I'd never heard of it until we met so I have no other frame of reference. To my knowledge, no one else in her family shared her affliction (2 parents, 3 siblings & a host of Aunts, Uncles etc etc)
 
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Hubby is trim, muscular and fit at 68. Never smoked, drinks an occasional beer. His Reynauds is bad enough that his hands turn dead white at 50 degrees if it's also humid. The docs think his is from running chainsaws and other vibrating equipment, although I never could figure out how that worked!

I do know smoking is a major risk factor...

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Sacajawea

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm thinking that this is an excellent time for all of us interested in alternative medicine and medicinal herbs to up our game. Pool our knowledge & resources. I know I haven't even visited this room much (that's on me) - but I've been accumulating knowledge, growing & making certain things that will become more useful as average people's access to patient-focused competent "healthcare" (read: bureaucracy) becomes even less affordable & available.

Disclaimer: I know some excellent doctors & nurses, who actually DO care. But the system of insurance, the inflated costs of basic services/treatment, and extremely long wait times for appointments - to only mention a few of the things I've observed first hand - means those of us who do have experience with alternatives need to step in more frequently. I'm not as qualified on the trauma side of things; my focus is on all the normal things, the chronic things, that exist in the population.
 
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moldy

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I've heard of using cobwebs to stop bleeding. I suppose if you could fine preferably clean cobwebs they would be best.
 
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