HEALTH Supplemental Insurance Increase
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LibertyInNH
Senior Member
That's only a 15% increase. Anyone reading the tea leaves should be expecting between 15 and probably 25% increase on most medical policies.
Our Blue Cross plan is going up ~20% July 1st.
Our Blue Cross plan is going up ~20% July 1st.
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
I know there's been issues with Anthem. I haven't heard anything about United Health.
SlipperySlope
Veteran Member
My BlueCross went up about %10 on January 1, 2024. My part D would have doubled but I changed providers and it went way down.
PrairieMoon
Veteran Member
Is this for one person? Or two?
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Under Medigap I'm sure of any kind it goes up annually due to age.
And BTW it's not just at renewal but when you turn a year older. At either enrollment or first of the year should get a letter which states what the premium is each month for the full year. And should note in your birth month the premium jump.
Terrwyn at 292.95 is probably around age 75-78.
And BTW it's not just at renewal but when you turn a year older. At either enrollment or first of the year should get a letter which states what the premium is each month for the full year. And should note in your birth month the premium jump.
Terrwyn at 292.95 is probably around age 75-78.
Texican
Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Medicare Supplement Plans can be a pain to work thru. All supplement plans have to comply with Medicare standards.
My DW's supplement plan was Mutual of Omaha with a cost of: $170.04 per month.
Her new supplement plan is Capital Life with a cost of: $119.63 per month.
A savings of $50.41 per month.
My previous supplement plan was Aetna with a cost of: $242.86 per month.
My new supplement plan is Capital Life with a cost of: $138.41 per month.
A savings of $104.45 per month.
For a total savings of $154.86 per month on Medicare supplement plans.
The first month's cost included a fee of $25 which was cheap for the savings.
Capital Life uses Aetna to process claims.
We have used Senior Health Care Direct for several years and they can save you money. It is worth your time to find out if Senior Health Care Direct can help save you on your
Pamela Love
Licensed Insurance Agent
NPN#: 10208477
Senior Healthcare Direct
(Formerly Medicare Bob’s Office)
3180 Curlew Road
Oldsmar, FL 34677
Company Toll Free: 1-855-368-4717 EXT: 5186
Pamela Love
Texican....
My DW's supplement plan was Mutual of Omaha with a cost of: $170.04 per month.
Her new supplement plan is Capital Life with a cost of: $119.63 per month.
A savings of $50.41 per month.
My previous supplement plan was Aetna with a cost of: $242.86 per month.
My new supplement plan is Capital Life with a cost of: $138.41 per month.
A savings of $104.45 per month.
For a total savings of $154.86 per month on Medicare supplement plans.
The first month's cost included a fee of $25 which was cheap for the savings.
Capital Life uses Aetna to process claims.
We have used Senior Health Care Direct for several years and they can save you money. It is worth your time to find out if Senior Health Care Direct can help save you on your
Pamela Love
Licensed Insurance Agent
NPN#: 10208477
Senior Healthcare Direct
(Formerly Medicare Bob’s Office)
3180 Curlew Road
Oldsmar, FL 34677
Company Toll Free: 1-855-368-4717 EXT: 5186
Pamela Love
Texican....
colonel holman
Veteran Member
both are screwing the hospitals
colonel holman
Veteran Member
AARP may well be a subsidiary of United
bbbuddy
DEPLORABLE ME
Our supplement plan N had more than doubled since 2012.
We got a call from United Medicare Advisors and they found us a company that is half what we were paying, so we're saving a couple hundred a month.
It's a "new to medicare" insurance company, but they all have to cover the same on the supplement plans.
Kathleen at United Medicare Advisors
877 825 4156 ext5293
We got a call from United Medicare Advisors and they found us a company that is half what we were paying, so we're saving a couple hundred a month.
It's a "new to medicare" insurance company, but they all have to cover the same on the supplement plans.
Kathleen at United Medicare Advisors
877 825 4156 ext5293
Just me. DH has Anthem Blue Cross
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just as an FYI:
AARP United Healthcare gives a discount IF two people are in the same household. And both are AARP.
With the discount SB's premium is 93.43 for plan G. Mine is a bit higher, (I'm older and plan F) BUT the premium notice they sent me, and the premium they told me over the phone are different, so am waiting to see which is which.
AARP United Healthcare gives a discount IF two people are in the same household. And both are AARP.
With the discount SB's premium is 93.43 for plan G. Mine is a bit higher, (I'm older and plan F) BUT the premium notice they sent me, and the premium they told me over the phone are different, so am waiting to see which is which.
Weird. I never experienced a rise in premiums due to age on supplemental plans when I was taking care of things for my parents, (Blue Cross - my dad was 89 when he died) nor have I seen it in my plan. It's a straight annual rate, no matter your age after 65. Mine may be a little different since it's (retired) employee coverage, but really, have never heard of age-based rates for anybody.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Don't know what you have or have had experience with, but everyone I have used, and those my family have used is adjusted each year for age.
BTW if you are paying the same premium at age 89 as you did at age 65, that is some awesome insurance and never let it lapse.
desertvet2
Veteran Member
Take solace in the fact that your increases are helping the poor illegals coming here unwanted.
The premiums go up on occasion as med costs rise, just like any other insurance rate - but it isn't tied to age. The annual premium is the same for all ages. Maybe it's down to state of residence - could be that some have different operating regs than others.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Don't have a clue what you are talking about. Never see or heard any such thing.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
they take every pay increase for social security beneficiaries.
The Cub
Behold, I am coming soon.
I am blessed, and can't complain. I'm a cancer patient, and by the grace of God, a survivor. Indeed, I got my money's worth.
Haha..OK - here it is, straight from the horse's "mouth".
Gads..there's always more to learn about these gov't tangle-foots.
www.medicare.org
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Do The Costs of Medicare Supplement Plans Increase With Age?
Whether your Medicare supplement insurance policy premiums increase as you get older depends on the type of cost rating method you choose. If you choose a Community Rated or No-Age Rated plan, you pay the same monthly premium regardless of your age. Everyone pays the same amount for their monthly premium.
With an Issue-Age Rated plan, your premium is based on your age when you purchase, or are issued, the policy. Generally, premiums cost less when you are younger. Premiums for these types of policies do not increase with age.
If you opt for an Attained-Age Rated policy, your premium will be based on the age you have attained. In other words, your age at the time of purchasing the policy. With this type of policy, your premium increases as you get older. While the premium may be less than other types of policies initially, premium prices increase with age making them more expensive than other types ultimately.
Gads..there's always more to learn about these gov't tangle-foots.
Do Medigap Premiums Increase With Age? | Medicare & Medicare Advantage Info, Help and Enrollment
Medigap is supplemental health insurance that Original Medicare recipients can purchase from private insurance companies to help cover some of the costs
www.medicare.org
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Do The Costs of Medicare Supplement Plans Increase With Age?
Whether your Medicare supplement insurance policy premiums increase as you get older depends on the type of cost rating method you choose. If you choose a Community Rated or No-Age Rated plan, you pay the same monthly premium regardless of your age. Everyone pays the same amount for their monthly premium.
With an Issue-Age Rated plan, your premium is based on your age when you purchase, or are issued, the policy. Generally, premiums cost less when you are younger. Premiums for these types of policies do not increase with age.
If you opt for an Attained-Age Rated policy, your premium will be based on the age you have attained. In other words, your age at the time of purchasing the policy. With this type of policy, your premium increases as you get older. While the premium may be less than other types of policies initially, premium prices increase with age making them more expensive than other types ultimately.
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SlipperySlope
Veteran Member
Mine doesn't increase with age. If you choose the plan at age 65 that is the age premium you will pay forever. You will still get increases based on rising costs of medical care though. If you want traditional Medicare with Medigap the best thing is to pick it and stay with it when first eligible. If you go to Advantage plans you might not be able to go back to original Medicare. You would have to qualify healthwise and pay premiums based on your attained age. Can you imagine if your brain is not super sharp and you are trying to figure all of this out?
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Haha..OK - here it is, straight from the horse's "mouth".
Gads..there's always more to learn about these gov't tangle-foots.
Do Medigap Premiums Increase With Age? | Medicare & Medicare Advantage Info, Help and Enrollment
Medigap is supplemental health insurance that Original Medicare recipients can purchase from private insurance companies to help cover some of the costs
(Emphasis mine)
Quote:
Do The Costs of Medicare Supplement Plans Increase With Age?
Whether your Medicare supplement insurance policy premiums increase as you get older depends on the type of cost rating method you choose. If you choose a Community Rated or No-Age Rated plan, you pay the same monthly premium regardless of your age. Everyone pays the same amount for their monthly premium.
With an Issue-Age Rated plan, your premium is based on your age when you purchase, or are issued, the policy. Generally, premiums cost less when you are younger. Premiums for these types of policies do not increase with age.
If you opt for an Attained-Age Rated policy, your premium will be based on the age you have attained. In other words, your age at the time of purchasing the policy. With this type of policy, your premium increases as you get older. While the premium may be less than other types of policies initially, premium prices increase with age making them more expensive than other types ultimately.
Attained-Age Medigap Plans
If you’re eligible for Medicare and have an Original Medicare plan (Part A and Part B), not all of your out-of-pocket costs are covered by Original Medicare. Depending on your healthcare expenses, you may consider buying a Medicare supplemental insurance plan, also called Medigap. These plans help pay for some out-of-pocket costs, such as deductibles, coinsurance and copays.
Medigap supplemental plans are offered by private insurance companies regulated by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). Premiums vary between different plans based on coverage, the plan rating system and other factors. Medigap plan pricing is based on three main rating categories or formulas – attained-age, issue-age and community-rated.
If you’re considering buying a Medigap supplemental plan, it’s important to understand the differences between attained-age vs. issue-age, as well as community-rated plans. The rating model affects your premiums when you sign up and future price increases.
In this article we’ll review the differences between the three ratings and how to choose the best Medigap plan for your needs.
Attained-Age Plans
Attained-age rating models are the most frequently used by Medigap insurance providers. This rating system for calculating premiums is based on your age when you sign up for the plan. The younger you are at enrollment, the lower your premium. But your premium rates increase as you get older.
For example, if you’re 65 years old, your premium for a particular Medigap plan might be $130, but the same plan may cost $170 when you’re 75 years old. Generally, rates increase by a small percentage either annually or by a set timeframe. Rate increases are approved by state health insurance agencies.
Attained-age plans may seem attractive when you’re younger because of their low premiums, but they may become expensive over your lifetime. It’s important to keep this in mind when shopping for a Medigap plan.
Some states such as Massachusetts, Minnesota and Wisconsin have different Medigap standardized plans and coverage guidelines. If you live in these states, you can check with your State Health Insurance Assistance Program (SHIP) or Medigap plan provider for specific coverage and cost information.
Issue-Age Medigap Plans
Issue-age-rated plan premiums are based on your age when you apply for coverage. Your premium rate will be lower if you sign up when you’re younger than if you wait until you’re older (at age 65 versus 75, for example). These rating plans also generally increase rates annually, but rate increases are not dependent on your age in the future like they are with attained-age premiums. Small percentage increases are based on inflation and other health cost factors.
Not every state offers issue-age-rated plans. Depending on where you live, you may not be able to buy an issue-age-rated plan. States offering issue-age Medigap plans include Arizona, Idaho, Georgia and Florida. You can check with Medigap plan providers in your state to find out if they offer issue-age-rated plans.
This type of plan is less expensive than attained-age plans if you sign up when you first become eligible to purchase a Medigap plan. But in comparison to attained-age-rated plans, issue-age-rated plans start with higher premiums than attained-age-rated plans.
If your state offers issue-age-rated plans along with attained-age-rated plans, compare premium costs of attained-age vs. issue-age Medigap based on future rate increases, not just the rate when you purchase.
Community-Rated Medigap Plans
Community-rated Medigap plan premiums are based on where you live. Everyone within a certain geographic area pays the same premium for the same Medigap plan regardless of individual age. So, if you and your neighbor buy the same Medigap plan, your monthly premium will be the same even if you’re 70 years old and your neighbor is 80 years old.
Only a few states offer community-rated Medigap plans. They include Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Arkansas, Minnesota and Washington. States that don’t offer community-rated plans can charge you a higher premium based on your age depending on if they offer attained-age or issue-age-rated plans and your age at enrollment.
Typically, community-rated plans offer the lowest cost premiums over time as you age. But rates may be different depending on if you live in a rural versus urban location and other factors.
Do Medicare Supplement Premiums Increase With Age?
Yes, your Medigap premiums may increase with age in some cases. Premium cost increases depend on the rating type for the plan you choose. Attained-age-plan premiums increase as you get older, but also with inflation and for other reasons.
Issue-age-rated Medigap plans have higher premiums if you join when you’re older. These plans are less expensive if you join when you’re younger, but premiums may still be higher than attained-age for younger ages. Premiums also increase with inflation and health costs.
Community-rated plans aren’t based on your age. Cost increases depend on where you live (urban or rural), inflation and other causes.
When deciding between attained-age vs. issue-age or community-rated plans, there are several points to consider.
They include:
- your overall medical needs.
- plan premiums and benefits.
- your age.
- the plan provider reputation.
- premium cost rate projections.
The easiest time to join a Medigap plan is during your six-month Medigap Open Enrollment Period, which begins after you enroll in Medicare Part B. Medigap plan providers can deny you coverage if you have pre-existing conditions after this initial enrollment period.
For example, if you drop your Medigap attained-age-rated Medigap coverage due to high cost, you may not be able to buy another Medigap plan unless your state has guaranteed issue rights or you meet other qualifying circumstances. Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts and New York have guaranteed issue rights that require all Medigap providers in the state to offer policies at least once per month or continuously throughout the year.
This is why it’s important to understand the rating category to estimate your long-term premium costs before signing up with a Medigap plan.
Attained-age vs Issue-age Medigap Plans | GoHealth
Differences between Medigap supplemental plan categories attained-age, issue-age and community-rated plans determine what you pay for your plan premiums.
www.gohealth.com
3 things.
1) live in MS and Issue Age not available here so never heard of it, just to name one of some 40+ states that don't
2) Community based while available (I hear ads on the radio) is not accepted by my local medical facility.
3)Attained age goes up every year based on age