Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders - calls Obama an imposter

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A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief.

The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

"As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter.

Obama "has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility," Easterling wrote. "In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so."

Taitz told WND she had advised Easterling to obtain legal counsel before making any statements regarding the commander-in-chief, but he insisted on moving forward. His contention is that as an active member of the U.S. military, he is required to follow orders from a sitting president, and he needs – on pain of court-martial – to know that Obama is eligible.

Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 250,000 others and sign up now!

Taitz said other legal cases questioning Obama's eligibility filed by members of the military mostly have included retired officers, and courts several times have ruled they don't have standing to issue their challenge.

Easterling, however, is subject to enemy fire and certainly would have a reason to need to know the legitimacy of his orders, she argued.

"Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office – an impostor," his statement said.

Easterling said he joined the Army at age 40 after working in Iraq as a contractor.

"I chose to work … to support my troops and then left that lucrative position when the Army raised its maximum enlistment age to 40. Upon completion of basic training, I entered Officer Candidate School and commissioned as a 2LT in August 2007. After completing the subsequent basic officer leadership courses, I was assigned to Ft. Knox and shortly thereafter deployed to Balad, Iraq," he wrote.

"I implore all service-members and citizens to contact their senators and representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced," he wrote.

Taitz said Easterling is among the plaintoffs she is assembling for a new legal action over Obama's eligibility. Others include a list of state lawmakers who also would be required in their official position to follow orders of the president.

"My conviction is such that I am compelled to join Dr. Orly Taitz's lawsuit, as a plaintiff, against Mr. Obama. As a citizen, it pains me to do this, but as an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this action," he said.

Easterling was "saluted" in a forum on Taitz' website.

"Lt. Easterling, As a retired US Army SFC, I salute you sir as a true American patriot and hero! Thank you for your unselfish service to our country. It is rare to find someone today with such moral courage to do the right thing regardless of repercussions," said one contributor.

Said another, "For your voluntary service to our country, we owe you a debt we can never pay."

As WND reported yesterday, U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., said during a meeting with constituents in Cullman County he has never seen proof the new president was born in Hawaii.

"Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven't seen any birth certificate," Shelby said. "You have to be born in America to be president."

Shelby's office later stated the senator is confident of Obama's vetting process, although it did not elaborate.

WND has reported on multiple legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Here is a partial listing and status update for some of the cases over Obama's eligibility:

* New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn't properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president.

* Philip J. Berg, a Pennsylvania Democrat, demanded that the courts verify Obama's original birth certificate and other documents proving his American citizenship. Berg's latest appeal, requesting an injunction to stop the Electoral College from selecting the 44th president, was denied.

* Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

* Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

* Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support.

* Chicago attorney Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

* Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied.

* In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

* In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.

* In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

* California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters.

In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama's eligibility include:

* In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

* In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.

* In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

* In Washington, L. Charles vs. Obama.

* In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.
 

Housecarl

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Now that's putting your money where your mouth is...WOW...Good luck Easterling, you're going to need it. :shkr:
 

Monkeywrench

Land Owner
I sure hope he doesn't suddenly become a casualty. I will pray for him. This country desperately needs real men like him.
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
He won't be dead. There are too many in the armed forces not happy as well. The birth certificate is just the legal excuse used to move for an impeachment, that are unhappy with EVERYTHING he is doing.

Remember, majority of them have a wife and children at home that are about to face riots, and possibly worse.
 

Jumpy Frog

Browncoat sympathizer
I hope this spreads like wildfire and consumes the country. Officers are already toasting the Office of the President, instead of the President. May not sound like much to civilians, but to those that are warriors............it speaks volumes. :groucho:
 

The Traveler

Veteran Member
The idiot needs to get another job if he doesn't like his boss.

This man is an officer in the United States Military. He is not an idiot as you suggest. You ma'am are I must say. Anyone who follows a liar is an idiot and that is what you do everyday. I saw the clip on Meet the Press Sunday where your messiah stated emphatically that he would not run for the office of the President of the United States than did it. If you want to follow a liar than so be it but do not condemn our men in uniform for wanting to know the truth.
 
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imaginative

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Easterling, however, is subject to enemy fire and certainly would have a reason to need to know the legitimacy of his orders, she argued.

"Until Mr. Obama releases a 'vault copy' of his original birth certificate for public review, I will consider him neither my Commander in Chief nor my President, but rather, a usurper to the Office – an impostor," his statement said.

Easterling said he joined the Army at age 40 after working in Iraq as a contractor.

"I chose to work … to support my troops and then left that lucrative position when the Army raised its maximum enlistment age to 40. Upon completion of basic training, I entered Officer Candidate School and commissioned as a 2LT in August 2007. After completing the subsequent basic officer leadership courses, I was assigned to Ft. Knox and shortly thereafter deployed to Balad, Iraq," he wrote.

"I implore all service-members and citizens to contact their senators and representatives and demand that they require Mr. Obama prove his eligibility. Our Constitution and our great nation must not be allowed to be disgraced," he wrote.

He swore an oath- not to Obama (and I refuse to use the title President before his name until it is proven that he is eligible) but to the US Constitution.

This is fairly similar to Michael New who refused to serve the UN. Easterling joined at 40 years old? Out of patriotism? Gave up the big (huge) bucks that he was getting as a private contractor? I am betting this guy, nor this story is going away.

He sounds like a real American with real convictions who is, as Housecarl says, "putting his money where his mouth is".

If someone finds a "support Lt Emerling" site please post it

(Why is this not on the main? It has nothing to do with "All Things Political)
 

BoatGuy

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You know what, FL? If this thing ever does come to fruition and he is declared to be eligible, feel free to call me on the carpet and I'll admit that I'm wrong. But, until that day comes, I'm betting that there is a reason that he's not been forthcoming with a simple thing like a birth certificate. The longer this goes on, the more it looks like he's got something to hide.
 

fruit loop

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Obama was elected by the citizens of the United States. Part of his duties of office is as Commander in Chief of the military. If this soldier doesn't like that, then he needs to get another job.

The birth cert was on display for two years. That's long enough, the question was answered, and you don't keep repeating answers over and over to stupid people. You ignore them. He's doing the right thing.

Traveler, there are plenty of officer-idiots in the U.S. military. History is littered with records of their stupidity. That uniform doesn't make them smart... or guarantee character. If it did, those soldiers who raped the little girl and killed her family wouldn't have done it.
 

Rasputin

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This was a well thought out move by somebody. This should decisively take care of the standing issue. A man that has sworn to uphold the constitution (which the military has to do) should be imminently qualified to file a lawsuit in this matter. If this suit isnt heard things will rip apart big time. Of course they might rip apart if it is.
 

Conrad Nimikos

Who is Henry Bowman
Brave man. Very brave. I can't speak to his intelligence level. But Fruitloop has demonstrated her intelligence level many times.

Fruitloop said "you don't keep repeating answers over and over to stupid people. You ignore them. He's doing the right thing." Are you telling us to ignore you?:lkick:
 

fruit loop

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You don't seem to be doing it very well, Conrad, so what does that say about you?

:trl::trl::trl:

The guy can do what the rest of us do if he doesn't like his boss: look for another career.
 

almost ready

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You'd admit you "were wrong"?

You know what, FL? If this thing ever does come to fruition and he is declared to be eligible, feel free to call me on the carpet and I'll admit that I'm wrong. But, until that day comes, I'm betting that there is a reason that he's not been forthcoming with a simple thing like a birth certificate. The longer this goes on, the more it looks like he's got something to hide.

wait a minute. This guy has spent a million dollars rather than expose his birth to scrutiny, as his opponent did during the early campaign.

Wrong about what? Wrong to ensure the law of the land is enforced?

Nonsense. Whether or not this guy is merely such an egotistic fool he thinks he is above the rest of us, or he's really ineligible, by virtue of having been born a British Subject because such citizenship is automatically imparted to children of Kenyans (it was part of the empire at that time), the fault lies with the one refusing to comply with the law. Not you. YOu are not wrong. The founding fathers in their personal letters made it very clear that not only is anyone who has held dual citizenship not eligible for the office of president, but even that many of them were not eligible. So seriously did they take the danger of dual loyalties. Thus, this case must be kept out of court for the charade to go on, as the courts are bound by their traditions to read and consider such writings, in interpreting the law.
 

Wardogs

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Obama was elected by the citizens of the United States. Part of his duties of office is as Commander in Chief of the military. If this soldier doesn't like that, then he needs to get another job.

The birth cert was on display for two years. That's long enough, the question was answered, and you don't keep repeating answers over and over to stupid people. You ignore them. He's doing the right thing.

Traveler, there are plenty of officer-idiots in the U.S. military. History is littered with records of their stupidity. That uniform doesn't make them smart... or guarantee character. If it did, those soldiers who raped the little girl and killed her family wouldn't have done it.

You know, you have made this statement many times about his BC being on display, and it's a lie. It has NEVER been "on display" anywhere at anytime.

When the forged COLB certificate was published in the Daily Kos, and then shortly after on his own website, it was challenged almost immediately by many people. Three different versions have been put forth, one on Kos, with the same version in less resolution on fightthesmears.org, one by politifact, and one by factcheck.org. All three were different. It was the factcheck version that was "on display" in Chicago at the Annenberg Center. It was "on display" to factcheck only, and then for a total of six minutes. Never to the public at large. Factcheck's version was challenged almost immediately, and shown to have significant discrepancies. The true vault copy has never been shown.

When McCain had the same challenge, first by the Democratic Congress, and then by three State Courts, he immediately responded with the true vault copy, went through the process, and was vetted by a Senate Resolution and all three State courts. No hiding, no legal maneuvering, just gave what was asked for.

Obama should do the same. His past is a construct, pure and simple.

wardogs
 

Conrad Nimikos

Who is Henry Bowman
Fruitloop, I did have you on ignore for a while. After I thought about it I decided I was one of those who voted to have you reinstated after you were booted from the board and therefore I am partly responsible for you being able to post here. So if I am even partly responsible for you being here I should not have you on ignore.

Warandra is another matter. I have nothing to do with her being here and no reason to subject myself to her blatherings.
 

stown

Senior Member
The birth cert was on display for two years. That's long enough, the question was answered, and you don't keep repeating answers over and over to stupid people. You ignore them. He's doing the right thing.

Serious question.....Is this the birth cert you have been referring to whenever this subject comes up?
 

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2Pockets

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Seal?

Where is the seal? In my job I see many different state birth certificates -- everyone has some form of embossed or like seal with a date and usually a signature........why doesn't this one?
 

stown

Senior Member
Fruit Loop,
I'm still trying to determine if this is the birth certificate you are referring to when you say it has been on display for two years. Or is there another? This is the only one I have ever seen. Just want to be clear on this.

Thanks.......:)
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
Serious question.....Is this the birth cert you have been referring to whenever this subject comes up?

That one is a fake. Here are some pics of the real one. It was the one on display that I saw. It was folded as if it was sent through the mail.






 

stown

Senior Member
Thank you truthseeker. I appreciate someone trying to answer my question.

Too bad you can't read that any better. I blew it up and can't really see exactly what the wording is. Do you know if the wording is the same as the one you said is a fake?

BTW, where did you see it? Is that where this picture came from?

Thanks again.
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
Thank you truthseeker. I appreciate someone trying to answer my question.

Too bad you can't read that any better. I blew it up and can't really see exactly what the wording is. Do you know if the wording is the same as the one you said is a fake?

BTW, where did you see it? Is that where this picture came from?

Thanks again.

I think It came from fact checker. But the copy in my picture, looks like the one on display. The other one has the same info, but you cannot see the seal, stamp, folds. So it seems fake to me. but the info is the same. I think there are some many problems to almost the point of armed revolution, but dont let this make you look like an idiot. Really investigate the whole charge this is made up on. An honest person is going tp say wait a minute, this stinks.
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
Thank you truthseeker. I appreciate someone trying to answer my question.

Too bad you can't read that any better. I blew it up and can't really see exactly what the wording is. Do you know if the wording is the same as the one you said is a fake?

BTW, where did you see it? Is that where this picture came from?

Thanks again.

Missed the first part of your question. It was on display at the Kluczynski federal building in downtown chicago. Thats where both Illinois senators have their office.
 

NC Susan

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[SIZE=+4]Has The US Supreme
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Shame: the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, ridiculous, etc., done by oneself or another;.disgrace; ignominy[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Today, and for the second time, the U.S. Supreme Court shirked its duty and responsibility to hear a case that has direct bearing on whether Barack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Obama, aka Barack Dunham, aka Barry Dunham, is a legitimate candidate to be America's next president.

Without question, should the U.S. Supreme Court have ruled Obama ineligible to qualify as a candidate for the presidency, it would have created an unprecedented upheaval, but we the people have the right to a legitimate president no matter the pain of completing the process. The Founding Fathers and colonials gave their honor, their money and their blood as principled individuals. They stood their ground and so shall we the people despite the cowardly path chosen by these justices.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]The stonewalling by Obama and his legal legions in Obama's refusal to respond to the allegations that he does not meet constitutional requirements for citizenship redefines hubris. One can imagine his joy today when the order was posted that the U.S. Supreme Court again spit on the U.S. Constitution for political expediency and out of sheer cowardice.

There can be no other explanation for the court refusing to hear the Leo Donofrio and Cort Wrotnowski cases.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]As Leo said in a recent post on his web site, it doesn't matter what the cell damaged media lap dogs say about these cases. What matters is the supreme law of the land. Today's DENIED by the "high" court makes it perfectly clear that those nine justices don't have the guts to take on such a huge decision. Never mind the million plus letters that were sent to the court by Americans who demand the supreme law of the land be upheld. Never mind the pompous blathering by politicos on web sites who care nothing for the U.S. Constitution. The one and only question was and still remains: Was Barack Hussein Obama a natural born citizen at birth?[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]There are still a number of cases on going.

The electoral college delegates meet at all 50 state capitols today to vote for this impostor. What happens next will depend on what these electors do during the vote. Further updates will follow.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]There has been so much disinformation and distortions about all the cases relating to this issue on the Internet. Having read a great deal of the blarney out there by bloggers, TV and radio talk show hosts and columnists who support Obama, I can tell you 99.999% of them never read a single word in any of the briefs submitted to the Supreme Court. Their own words condemn them as either intellectually lazy or simply ignorant.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Emotions have run high over this controversy which all could have been avoided had Obama simply come clean about his citizenship. Instead, this impostor has chosen to commit a fraud against the American people that, should he be sworn in, will simply prolong the inevitable. Obama is going down, it's just a matter of time. If sworn in, he will begin his presidency the same as the famous Clinton duo: drowning in controversy and rage from Americans who still believe in the supreme law of the land.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]I fully understand time is an issue for Americans. However, to really understand how serious the question is regarding Obama's eligibility, one must take the time to at least read some of the most factual information available.

If Obama could have proven his citizenship, he would have done so many, many months ago. He's bluffing we the people will simply go away and allow him to be sworn in as Impostor in Chief.

That isn't going to happen.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]In an effort to make things easier and because I'm not certain how long Leo will leave his web site up and running, I have put several documents into the audio section of my web site. You can listen via the computer, download to a CD and listen on the road, in commute traffic, on a train or plane. Share these recordings with friends, family and those who still believe we are a nation of laws, not lies. These recording include Leo's submission to the U.S. Supreme Court, Cort's submission and additional filing with the court, some of the material from Leo's site (with his permission) and a critically important column from Dr. Edwin Vieira on what will happen should Obama get sworn into office.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Those recordings can be found here:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.devvy.net/audio/dec08/rense/dec15_commentary.html[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Dr. Edwin Vieira's column is in the link above.

You can read the full text of his column here:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin186.htm[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]The reason Edwin's column is so important is because lays out what will happen if Obama signs another unconstitutional "hate crime" law or anti-Second Amendment law. The defendant in the case can then go after Obama as his defense. Edwin also details how one member of the House of Representatives and one member of the Senate can challenge the electoral college votes.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]This case is absolutely germane to the issue and part of it (to read the entire decision would have taken a couple of hours) is in the new audio section cited above.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]U.S. v. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]UNITED STATES[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]v.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]WONG KIM ARK.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]No. 132.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]March 28, 1898[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]
The full text may be read here:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl? court=us&vol=169&invol=649[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Leo Donofrio's web site is:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]and:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Phil Berg's web site is:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.obamacrimes.com/[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]

Dr. Orly Taitz's web site is:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.drorly.blogspot.com/[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]United States Justice Foundation:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.usjf.net/[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]WND has a current and very well done news item on this issue:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83693[/SIZE]
 
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NC Susan

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Oh, Devvy Kidd....once a dumbass, always a dumbass........:dhr:


No, I think Devvy Kidd nailed it : [FONT=Verdana,Arial][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]at that point,
because the courts did not act,
and Congress did not act,
and We the People did not act,
the Praetorians will see fit to act.

And even if the Military Commission eventually returns power to civilians, the precedent will be set in steel for
“the Latin American solution”

—government by junta.
That, surely, would be “change we can believe in”
—with a capital “C.”
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