CORONA SHOCKING: BIG PHARMA Received Emergency Use Approval a Couple of Weeks Ago for COVID Variant Discovered a Couple Days Ago?

helen

Panic Sex Lady
First, if they have a new variant, they want to know what it is. Second, if the new one is mild, they want to know what difference makes it mild.

You sound like the driver stopped for speeding, who tells the cop he should be catching REAL criminals.
Two cops stepped over a drug dealer and a hooker doing business in my front yard to issue me a barking dog ticket - and I didn't have a dog. And yeah, I asked them WTF.

This story is messed up.
 

John Green

Veteran Member
No, the mRNA vaccines are patterned after the original strain. Already through most of delta before approved.
So that raises my main question. Why bother to redesign so fast for this new strain if they never attempted a redesign when Delta first arrived ? Isn’t the reason the vaccines are failing because they were never designed for Delta ?
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
rondaben, what is the name of the blood test for finding T-cells for covid? I'm trying to line up private labs.

Can self pay and get one set up from them.

 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
Yeah, they do. Thats how they know what the mutations are.

But then again, you don't believe in viruses to there is that hurdle to clear.

Rondaben,

How many years experience do you have working for the government? I have 28 years experience, most of it on the leading edge of technology. Before that, well, I stood beside the finest medical doctor that I will ever know. And he taught me a whole lot.

Based upon the publicly reported information, the 1st "knowledge" of this variant was this past Monday. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, let's say they discovered it on Monday in South Africa. And they had a sample to the CDC flown directly, the CDC would have it late on Tuesday. The government machine worked on it until Friday when they announced closures. And they are declaring that they are going to produce a vax within 100 days all approved and tested and start producing the vax. And are declaring this the worst thing on earth. And not one single person has died of this, yet.

I am f**king amazed.

And on top of that you have read about it and you have determined that everything they are saying is so well informed?

Hell, the federal government can't get coffee and bagels ordered in a week.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
So that raises my main question. Why bother to redesign so fast for this new strain if they never attempted a redesign when Delta first arrived ? Isn’t the reason the vaccines are failing because they were never designed for Delta ?

Most likely it was because of FDA approval. All of the testing for that was based on the early strains. Now that it has been approved, the change is in the mRNA sequencing for the spike protein target. They will reuse the same lipid nanoparticle delivery system. Now that the original vaccine is approved it will be rather simple to make the tweaks quickly for new strains. Its kind of like designing a new rifle--the original may take a lot of trials and tweaks to get right, but subsequent designs based on that model may just incorporate a few small tweaks.

At this point I don't see a need to rush to do that until we have more information about it. A press release stating that they can do it is more for PR purposes IMO than for any real reason TO do it just yet. I suspect that if we see this as being generally mild it will be good in that it will be a relatively easy way to get natural immunity up for those who are unvaccinated and act as a "booster" for those who may get a breakthrough infection.
 

Matt

Veteran Member
Bill & Melinda's second wave...right on schedule. satan's minions never rest.
Remember the interview that Bill and Melinda Gates gave where Bill stated, "The next wave will get your attention", before they both grinned like the cat that ate the canary.... if this variant is indeed what Bill was referencing..... y'all had best be ready to stand by!

When a man tells you he's gonna kill you while holding a gun, you had best believe him!
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
Most likely it was because of FDA approval. All of the testing for that was based on the early strains. Now that it has been approved, the change is in the mRNA sequencing for the spike protein target. They will reuse the same lipid nanoparticle delivery system. Now that the original vaccine is approved it will be rather simple to make the tweaks quickly for new strains. Its kind of like designing a new rifle--the original may take a lot of trials and tweaks to get right, but subsequent designs based on that model may just incorporate a few small tweaks.

At this point I don't see a need to rush to do that until we have more information about it. A press release stating that they can do it is more for PR purposes IMO than for any real reason TO do it just yet. I suspect that if we see this as being generally mild it will be good in that it will be a relatively easy way to get natural immunity up for those who are unvaccinated and act as a "booster" for those who may get a breakthrough infection.

And........

Wait for it......

There is not one dose of the "approved" vax available on the face of the earth as far as I know. They say it will be months. So they are jabing the un-approved emergency vax still to this day.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Rondaben,

How many years experience do you have working for the government? I have 28 years experience, most of it on the leading edge of technology. Before that, well, I stood beside the finest medical doctor that I will ever know. And he taught me a whole lot.

Based upon the publicly reported information, the 1st "knowledge" of this variant was this past Monday. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, let's say they discovered it on Monday in South Africa. And they had a sample to the CDC flown directly, the CDC would have it late on Tuesday. The government machine worked on it until Friday when they announced closures. And they are declaring that they are going to produce a vax within 100 days all approved and tested and start producing the vax. And are declaring this the worst thing on earth. And not one single person has died of this, yet.

I am f**king amazed.

And on top of that you have read about it and you have determined that everything they are saying is so well informed?

Hell, the federal government can't get coffee and bagels ordered in a week.

South Africa actually does a very thorough job of sequencing--much more so than we do here and have been doing so since August of 2020. The original work up was by CERI (Center for Epidemic Response and Innovation). They were the first to identify the Beta variant because of that. The first known case they caught was on November 9th; it became of more concern as it quickly overtook delta as the predominant strain. Covid is pretty small, ~30k base pairs. It can be sequenced automatically in a day or two. Good article here on the technology that is already old (more than 2 years ago).

 

rondaben

Veteran Member
And........

Wait for it......

There is not one dose of the "approved" vax available on the face of the earth as far as I know. They say it will be months. So they are jabing the un-approved emergency vax still to this day.

the two are equivalent for legal purposes.
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
the two are equivalent for legal purposes.

Actually, no they are not legally the same. You might want to call them the same politically, but they are not. They are two separate drugs, different names, they may be technically the same, but legally you have to look at the wording of the documentation. Don't play word games with me, I managed government contracts for many years. I got approval for "George" for an emergency. But I submitted "Ralph" for regular use. Ralph has to be approved, and when it is, I have to produce Ralph which has to go through the full legal process. I can't go back and declare George Ralph legally.
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
South Africa actually does a very thorough job of sequencing--much more so than we do here and have been doing so since August of 2020. The original work up was by CERI (Center for Epidemic Response and Innovation). They were the first to identify the Beta variant because of that. The first known case they caught was on November 9th; it became of more concern as it quickly overtook delta as the predominant strain. Covid is pretty small, ~30k base pairs. It can be sequenced automatically in a day or two. Good article here on the technology that is already old (more than 2 years ago).


So, how many years of federal experience do you have?
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
Oh yeah, and another question since you know so much about it. Do they get to reset the count of how many people have died from the vax, the largest body count of a vax that I have been able to determine, to zero and start over from scratch? And what is the date that they get to set it to zero?
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
South Africa actually does a very thorough job of sequencing--much more so than we do here and have been doing so since August of 2020. The original work up was by CERI (Center for Epidemic Response and Innovation). They were the first to identify the Beta variant because of that. The first known case they caught was on November 9th; it became of more concern as it quickly overtook delta as the predominant strain. Covid is pretty small, ~30k base pairs. It can be sequenced automatically in a day or two. Good article here on the technology that is already old (more than 2 years ago).


I know you have had a long day, and so have I. I'm just reading more of what you posted. So, you are saying that South Africa is more advanced in the medical field of viruses than the US is? And that they IDed this new virus back on November 9th?
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Oh, and while we are talking about it. Why is it going to take the CDC 50 years to provide the PDF files of documentation that the vax manufacturers provided to the CDC for approval? That should take what? 15 minutes?
I suspect you would have to ask them, but as they have screwed this up from the beginning I suspect you wouldn't like the answer even if they deigned to give you one.
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
I suspect you would have to ask them, but as they have screwed this up from the beginning I suspect you wouldn't like the answer even if they deigned to give you one.

So, you have two years with the feds. Ok. Actually, I am good with an honest answer not blowing smoke up my ass.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
I know you have had a long day, and so have I. I'm just reading more of what you posted. So, you are saying that South Africa is more advanced in the medical field of viruses than the US is? And that they IDed this new virus back on November 9th?

Yes. They identified it on November 9th, that was the first confirmed case. It was also found in Egypt on that day or a few days after I believe but I don't have a link for that. Its not that SA is more advanced-the technology is widespread--they just put a higher priority on the genomic side of it than we do. They are looking, we aren't.
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
I believe but I don't have a link for that. Its not that SA is more advanced-the technology is widespread--they just put a higher priority on the genomic side of it than we do. They are looking, we aren't.

Think long and hard about what you just posted. Then consider your support of what the federal government is telling us.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Think long and hard about what you just posted. Then consider your support of what the federal government is telling us.

I don't support the government narrative. As I noted, they have screwed up the rollout from step one and can't get out of their own way. The main issue is that they see you as too stupid to understand what is in your best interest and that they have a duty to force you to do it. Roll it out, provide the info and let people decide if they want it or not. They have a right to say yes or no; they also have the right to the consequences of those decisions.

First I have heard that it was found in Egypt at all. I'm surprised that they are not also on the banned flight list.


The person was found in Belgium after returning from Egypt on the 11th of November.
 
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