I’ve been digging trying to find the answer to this, but can’t find anything definitive. Does anyone know or have links to something that says how long newly vaccinated people shed? One of the families in our homeschool co-op just had three of their children vaccinated and I’m not sure if I should have my grands around them on Tuesday.
HEALTH Shedding from Vaccinated People
- Thread starter Deena in GA
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Magdalen
Veteran Member
Good afternoon, Deena in GA.
There is an article from 2015 that talks about shedding by the vaccinated. It may be an applicable study because, from what I understand, ALL vaccinations lead to shedding. If the jab were a vaccine, it would then be liable to shedding too. Now whether or not I am understanding what I heard, is open to question. I am open to being found wrong; there is so much disinformation swirling about. BUT, a study from 2015, coupled with the alleged behaviour of ALL vaccines could prove useful. (The fact that it is from the Weston A. Price Foundation may disqualify it in some people's eyes.) Here is the link and the text:
Studies Show that Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease
Studies Show that Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease
Should the Recently Vaccinated be Quarantined to Prevent Outbreaks?
February 02, 2015 14:34 ET | Source: Weston A. Price Foundation
Washington, D.C., Feb. 2, 2015 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Health officials are blaming unvaccinated children for the recent measles outbreak that started at Disneyland. However, with no blood tests proving the outbreak is from wild measles, the most likely source of the outbreak is a recently vaccinated individual, according to published science.
Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.1,2 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
Furthermore, vaccine recipients can carry diseases in the back of their throat and infect others while displaying no symptoms of a disease.11,12,13
"Numerous scientific studies indicate that children who receive a live virus vaccination can shed the disease and infect others for weeks or even months afterwards. Thus, parents who vaccinate their children can indeed put others at risk," explains Leslie Manookian, documentary filmmaker and activist. Manookian's award winning documentary, The Greater Good, aims to open a dialog about vaccine safety.
Both unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals are at risk from exposure to those recently vaccinated. Vaccine failure is widespread; vaccine-induced immunity is not permanent and recent outbreaks of diseases such as whooping cough, mumps and measles have occurred in fully vaccinated populations.14,15 Flu vaccine recipients become more susceptible to future infection after repeated vaccination.16
"Health officials should require a two-week quarantine of all children and adults who receive vaccinations," says Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation. "This is the minimum amount of time required to prevent transmission of infectious diseases to the rest of the population, including individuals who have been previously vaccinated."
"Vaccine failure and failure to acknowledge that live virus vaccines can spread disease have resulted in an increase in outbreaks of infectious disease in both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals," says Manookian, "CDC should instruct physicians who administer vaccinations to inform their patients about the risks posed to others by those who've been recently vaccinated."
According to the Weston A. Price Foundation, the best protection against infectious disease is a healthy immune system, supported by adequate vitamin A and vitamin C. Well-nourished children easily recover from infectious disease and rarely suffer complications.
The number of measles deaths declined from 7575 in 1920 (10,000 per year in many years in the 1910s) to an average of 432 each year from 1958-1962.17 The vaccine was introduced in 1963. Between 2005 and 2014, there have been no deaths from measles in the U.S. and 108 deaths from the MMR vaccine.18
The Weston A. Price Foundation is a 501(c)(3) nutrition education foundation with the mission of disseminating accurate, science-based information on diet and health. Named after nutrition pioneer Weston A. Price, DDS, author of Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, the Washington, DC-based Foundation publishes a quarterly journal for its 15,000 members, supports 600 local chapters worldwide and hosts a yearly international conference. The Foundation phone number is (202) 363-4394, www.westonaprice.org, info@westonaprice.org.
References:
1. Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011 Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011
2. Detection of Measles Virus RNA in Urine Specimens from Vaccine Recipients Detection of measles virus RNA in urine specimens from vaccine recipients - PubMed
3. Comparison of the Safety, Vaccine Virus Shedding and Immunogenicity of Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A and B, Live Cold-Adapted, Administered to Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)-Infected and Non-HIV Infected AdultsComparison of the Safety, Vaccine Virus Shedding, and Immunogenicity of Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A and B, Live Cold-Adapted, Administered to Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)-Infected and Non-HIV-Infected Adults
4. Sibling Transmission of Vaccine-Derived Rotavirus (RotaTeq) Associated with Rotavirus GastroenteritisSibling Transmission of Vaccine-Derived Rotavirus (RotaTeq) Associated With Rotavirus Gastroenteritis
5. Polio vaccination may continue after wild virus fades Polio vaccination may continue after wild virus fades
6. Engineering attenuated virus vaccines by controlling replication fidelity http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v14/n2/abs/nm1726.html
7. CASE OF VACCINE-ASSOCIATED MEASLES FIVE WEEKS POST-IMMUNISATION, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA, OCTOBER 2013Eurosurveillance | Case of vaccine-associated measles five weeks post-immunisation, British Columbia, Canada, October 2013
8. The Safety Profile of Varicella Vaccine: A 10-Year Review http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/197/Supplement_2/S165.full
9. Comparison of Shedding Characteristics of Seasonal Influenza Virus (Sub)Types and Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09; Germany, 2007-2011 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051653
10. Epigenetics of Host-Pathogen Interactions: The Road Ahead and the Road Behind http://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1003007
11. Animal Models for Influenza Virus Pathogenesis and Transmission http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063653/
12. Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate mode http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063653/
13. Study Finds Parents Can Pass Whooping Cough to Babies http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/health/03coug.html?_r=0
14. Immunized People Getting Whooping Cough http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/jun/12/immunized-people-getting-whooping-cough/
15. Vaccine Failure -- Over 1000 Got Mumps in NY in Last Six Months http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...-1000-get-mumps-in-ny-in-last-six-months.aspx
16. Impact of Repeated Vaccination on Vaccine Effectiveness Against Influenza A(H3N2) and B During 8 Seasons http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2014/09/29/cid.ciu680.full
17. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056803.htm
18. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056803.htm
There is an article from 2015 that talks about shedding by the vaccinated. It may be an applicable study because, from what I understand, ALL vaccinations lead to shedding. If the jab were a vaccine, it would then be liable to shedding too. Now whether or not I am understanding what I heard, is open to question. I am open to being found wrong; there is so much disinformation swirling about. BUT, a study from 2015, coupled with the alleged behaviour of ALL vaccines could prove useful. (The fact that it is from the Weston A. Price Foundation may disqualify it in some people's eyes.) Here is the link and the text:
Studies Show that Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease
Studies Show that Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease
Should the Recently Vaccinated be Quarantined to Prevent Outbreaks?
February 02, 2015 14:34 ET | Source: Weston A. Price Foundation
Washington, D.C., Feb. 2, 2015 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Health officials are blaming unvaccinated children for the recent measles outbreak that started at Disneyland. However, with no blood tests proving the outbreak is from wild measles, the most likely source of the outbreak is a recently vaccinated individual, according to published science.
Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.1,2 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
Furthermore, vaccine recipients can carry diseases in the back of their throat and infect others while displaying no symptoms of a disease.11,12,13
"Numerous scientific studies indicate that children who receive a live virus vaccination can shed the disease and infect others for weeks or even months afterwards. Thus, parents who vaccinate their children can indeed put others at risk," explains Leslie Manookian, documentary filmmaker and activist. Manookian's award winning documentary, The Greater Good, aims to open a dialog about vaccine safety.
Both unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals are at risk from exposure to those recently vaccinated. Vaccine failure is widespread; vaccine-induced immunity is not permanent and recent outbreaks of diseases such as whooping cough, mumps and measles have occurred in fully vaccinated populations.14,15 Flu vaccine recipients become more susceptible to future infection after repeated vaccination.16
"Health officials should require a two-week quarantine of all children and adults who receive vaccinations," says Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation. "This is the minimum amount of time required to prevent transmission of infectious diseases to the rest of the population, including individuals who have been previously vaccinated."
"Vaccine failure and failure to acknowledge that live virus vaccines can spread disease have resulted in an increase in outbreaks of infectious disease in both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals," says Manookian, "CDC should instruct physicians who administer vaccinations to inform their patients about the risks posed to others by those who've been recently vaccinated."
According to the Weston A. Price Foundation, the best protection against infectious disease is a healthy immune system, supported by adequate vitamin A and vitamin C. Well-nourished children easily recover from infectious disease and rarely suffer complications.
The number of measles deaths declined from 7575 in 1920 (10,000 per year in many years in the 1910s) to an average of 432 each year from 1958-1962.17 The vaccine was introduced in 1963. Between 2005 and 2014, there have been no deaths from measles in the U.S. and 108 deaths from the MMR vaccine.18
The Weston A. Price Foundation is a 501(c)(3) nutrition education foundation with the mission of disseminating accurate, science-based information on diet and health. Named after nutrition pioneer Weston A. Price, DDS, author of Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, the Washington, DC-based Foundation publishes a quarterly journal for its 15,000 members, supports 600 local chapters worldwide and hosts a yearly international conference. The Foundation phone number is (202) 363-4394, www.westonaprice.org, info@westonaprice.org.
References:
1. Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011 Outbreak of Measles Among Persons With Prior Evidence of Immunity, New York City, 2011
2. Detection of Measles Virus RNA in Urine Specimens from Vaccine Recipients Detection of measles virus RNA in urine specimens from vaccine recipients - PubMed
3. Comparison of the Safety, Vaccine Virus Shedding and Immunogenicity of Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A and B, Live Cold-Adapted, Administered to Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)-Infected and Non-HIV Infected AdultsComparison of the Safety, Vaccine Virus Shedding, and Immunogenicity of Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A and B, Live Cold-Adapted, Administered to Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)-Infected and Non-HIV-Infected Adults
4. Sibling Transmission of Vaccine-Derived Rotavirus (RotaTeq) Associated with Rotavirus GastroenteritisSibling Transmission of Vaccine-Derived Rotavirus (RotaTeq) Associated With Rotavirus Gastroenteritis
5. Polio vaccination may continue after wild virus fades Polio vaccination may continue after wild virus fades
6. Engineering attenuated virus vaccines by controlling replication fidelity http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v14/n2/abs/nm1726.html
7. CASE OF VACCINE-ASSOCIATED MEASLES FIVE WEEKS POST-IMMUNISATION, BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA, OCTOBER 2013Eurosurveillance | Case of vaccine-associated measles five weeks post-immunisation, British Columbia, Canada, October 2013
8. The Safety Profile of Varicella Vaccine: A 10-Year Review http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/197/Supplement_2/S165.full
9. Comparison of Shedding Characteristics of Seasonal Influenza Virus (Sub)Types and Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09; Germany, 2007-2011 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0051653
10. Epigenetics of Host-Pathogen Interactions: The Road Ahead and the Road Behind http://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1003007
11. Animal Models for Influenza Virus Pathogenesis and Transmission http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063653/
12. Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate mode http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3063653/
13. Study Finds Parents Can Pass Whooping Cough to Babies http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/03/health/03coug.html?_r=0
14. Immunized People Getting Whooping Cough http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/jun/12/immunized-people-getting-whooping-cough/
15. Vaccine Failure -- Over 1000 Got Mumps in NY in Last Six Months http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...-1000-get-mumps-in-ny-in-last-six-months.aspx
16. Impact of Repeated Vaccination on Vaccine Effectiveness Against Influenza A(H3N2) and B During 8 Seasons http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2014/09/29/cid.ciu680.full
17. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056803.htm
18. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00056803.htm
Magdalen
Veteran Member
Just to muddy the water further, the shedding that led to infections in the unvaccinated was the result of the shedding of live viruses from the vaccine. If the jab does not have live viruses, is there still shedding? And if so, what must be being shed is the mRNA information for the making of spike proteins. How would that affect someone?
Bumblepuff
Veteran Member
Magdalen
Veteran Member
And if you're considering avoiding the family for enough time for them to stop shedding, it seems the recommended quarantine time is 2 weeks. From the previous article:
"Health officials should require a two-week quarantine of all children and adults who receive vaccinations," says Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation. "This is the minimum amount of time required to prevent transmission of infectious diseases to the rest of the population, including individuals who have been previously vaccinated."
Best of luck,
magdalen
"Health officials should require a two-week quarantine of all children and adults who receive vaccinations," says Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation. "This is the minimum amount of time required to prevent transmission of infectious diseases to the rest of the population, including individuals who have been previously vaccinated."
Best of luck,
magdalen
Thank you, Magdalen! There is so much contradictory information out there that I am having trouble sorting it all out, especially since this isn’t a traditional vaccine.
PrairieMoon
Veteran Member
Dr. Robert Malone MRNA Inventor - Kids Will Die From The Vaccines | Armstrong Economics
https://rumble.com/embed/vmfx22/?pub=4
www.armstrongeconomics.com
IIRC, vaccine shedding is discussed in this video with Dr. Malone. Good stuff here...well worth your time.
kyrsyan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The new vaccines do not cause sheding because they don't use the actual virus last I knew. They are a new type of vaccine.
Any of the "regular" vaccines carry a warning of 30 days. That doctors completely ignore. Alongside ignoring the warning to not issue vaccines to individuals who are not healthy.
Any of the "regular" vaccines carry a warning of 30 days. That doctors completely ignore. Alongside ignoring the warning to not issue vaccines to individuals who are not healthy.
meandk0610
Veteran Member
I think it would have to be the spike protein itself being shed, not the mRNA “recipe.”
meandk0610
Veteran Member
Easy fix — go do a fun field trip (just your family) on each of the meeting days over the next two weeks, then maybe get the kids to do a report or presentation (picture board, diorama, etc.) that they can share with the other kids when they go back.
patriotgal
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When kids got vaccines back in the day, had to wait 2 weeks before going around elderly or chemo patients.
Bumblepuff
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Mary Contrary
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I read it's the Spike protein that is "transmitted".