ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

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mecoastie

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danielboon said:
WELL will tomorrow be the day remember putin and biden are suppose to have a conversation
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Not until after the convo. Biden is going to make a huge empty threat and Putin is then going to demand an impossible concession for Biden/ NATO/ Ukraine. They will refuse and he will use that refusal and the threat as justification to "protect" Russia.
 
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Biden Mulls Cutting Russia Off SWIFT Ahead Of Putin Call In "Nuclear Option" Ukraine Response

BY TYLER DURDEN
ZERO HEDGE
MONDAY, DEC 06, 2021 - 12:18 PM

CNN and others are reporting just a day ahead of the much anticipated video call between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Joe Biden that the White House is mulling "nuclear option" level actions against Moscow should it launch a military offensive against Ukraine - which US intelligence has lately said could be imminent based on assessing that some 175,000 troops have been mustered in the Crimea and regions near Ukraine's eastern border.

This includes discussion of the possibility of disconnecting Russia from the SWIFT international payment system, seen as the most drastic potential measure which further includes fresh sanctions on Putin's inner circle and on Russian energy producers.


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The Kremlin has of course vehemently rejected the Ukraine threat accusations, saying it's free to move its own troops wherever it sees fit within the Russian Federation's sovereign territory and borders.

But the White House is now threatening the following, according to CNN on Monday:

People familiar with the discussions said new economic sanctions could target a variety of sectors, including energy producers and Russian banks. The new sanctions could also go after Russia's sovereign debt.
They are also likely to go after top Russian oligarchs, limiting their ability to travel and potentially cutting off access to American banking and credit card systems.
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And in particular, the "nuclear option" - which is now grabbing headlines...
Officials have also been weighing disconnecting Russia from the SWIFT international payment system, upon which Russia remains heavily reliant, according to two sources familiar with the discussions. This is being considered a "nuclear" option. The European Parliament passed a nonbinding resolution in the spring calling for such a move should Russia invade Ukraine, and the US has been discussing it with EU counterparts.
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On Russia's side, it has the "energy option" vis-a-vis Europe - something that the US has long warned the EU about, especially when it comes to the controversial Nord Stream 2 pipeline coming online. "The fear is Russia then tries to retaliate by holding back production," a top US official told CNN.

"We have put together a pretty damn aggressive package," an unnamed administration official additionally said to CNN, adding further that if Russia invades Ukraine "the US and Europe together will impose the worst economic sanctions that have ever been imposed on a country, outside of Iran and North Korea," according to the report.

It should be noted that with such an "option" in play, if things actually escalated to the historically unprecedented level of Russia's being blocked from SWIFT - such a scenario would mark a huge future day for cryptos, given cryptos have been suggested as the first space Putin would likely migrate to amid total isolation for the West-based payment system used by banks around the world.

Biden Mulls Cutting Russia Off SWIFT Ahead Of Putin Call In "Nuclear Option" Ukraine Response | ZeroHedge
 
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Marthanoir

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danielboon said:
WELL will tomorrow be the day remember putin and biden are suppose to have a conversation
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Techwreck

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Russia has already, as in years ago, heard the threats to be taken off the Swift payment system.
Russia has gold and energy.
If they shut our power off, all the bitcoins ever cyber-mined will be worth zero.

I thought that the US and Nato would react militarily if no deal could be reached, and Russia actually moved to take Ukraine.

Instead, we threaten with a "pretty damn aggressive " package of new economic sanctions?

Rope a dope? Or recognition that we've been speaking very loudly, but re-hypothecated our stick?

Give Milley another medal.
Hell, give Brandon one too.
 
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mecoastie

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Anyone find what time the call is supposed to be? I found something that said in the evening Russian time which would put it in the late morning our time.
 
somewherepress

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Global: MilitaryInfo
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Ukraine has officially requested that the U.S. send National Guard units per officials to FP



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Officials to FP have said that they are seeing preliminary signs of Russia establishing a supply line near Ukraine - they are seeing the deployment of field hospitals, radio jamming equipment, military ambulances & modified MBTs (defense against drones/javelins).
 
jward

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Natasha Bertrand
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Senior administration official hints at additional US deployments to eastern flank NATO allies in event of Russian invasion of Ukraine. "The US would be prepared to provide that kind of reassurance" to allies who want it in the event of an attack, official told reporters.
 
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