ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

AlfaMan

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Does anyone know if Belarus has mobilized its reserves?
Not yet, but I'd expect it to begin by Friday of this week. It's a small military so it won't take too much time.

Spetznaz forces there number around 6000 troops, based in 3 locations in Belarus. Per wikipedia.....

Their army is maybe 55,000 total, most are conscripts doing an 18 month stint.

It's a small and not that well funded military-Russia has sent love (newer equipment) occasionally but don't expect these troops to be mind blowingly good. DO expect them to be very rigid in terms of command and orders though. Their .mil mirrors Russia's army.
 

AlfaMan

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The belarus troops are posed to crush the over extended ukie troops.

Doomer Doug, you know I loves ya..........

But Belarus troops would only be good for "crushing" beer cans. The bulk of their .mil is 18 month conscripts, and conscripts that aren't fighting on their own land for their own homes.

The Ukranians are, however. That makes those troops motivated and dangerous to an enemy. Kinda like the confederate army against the Yankee trash......
 

raven

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Doomer Doug, you know I loves ya..........

But Belarus troops would only be good for "crushing" beer cans. The bulk of their .mil is 18 month conscripts, and conscripts that aren't fighting on their own land for their own homes.

The Ukranians are, however. That makes those troops motivated and dangerous to an enemy. Kinda like the confederate army against the Yankee trash......
yea, so why are Poland and Ukraine so alarmed?
 

mecoastie

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So what happens if Belarus gets involved? I dont see the West sitting on the sidelines for that. Does Poland start running air support or direct support against Belarus? If Putin is telling Lukashenko to get involved then things cant be going well for the Russians. Does Russia fight the Ukrainians and go after the Poles at the same time for attacking Belarus? Do they have the capability for that much coordination?
 

Grumphau

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So what happens if Belarus gets involved? I dont see the West sitting on the sidelines for that. Does Poland start running air support or direct support against Belarus? If Putin is telling Lukashenko to get involved then things cant be going well for the Russians. Does Russia fight the Ukrainians and go after the Poles at the same time for attacking Belarus? Do they have the capability for that much coordination?
The Belarusians move to expand the front, relieving pressure for Russia in the East. Russian/Belarusian forces might be able to cut supply lines to Ukraine if the Western border falls to Red team. NATO won't intervene directly unless there is a major provocation by Red Team
 

mecoastie

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The Belarusians move to expand the front, relieving pressure for Russia in the East. Russian/Belarusian forces might be able to cut supply lines to Ukraine if the Western border falls to Red team. NATO won't intervene directly unless there is a major provocation by Red Team
Didnt Poland just sign some sort of agreement with Ukraine? I see a second country invading Ukraine as a major provocation.
 

Grumphau

Veteran Member
Didnt Poland just sign some sort of agreement with Ukraine? I see a second country invading Ukraine as a major provocation.
I'm not sure about the agreement, but if Poland intervenes without its territory or people under direct attack, I don't think they will be able to invoke Article 5, at least initially.
 

Vegas321

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So what happens if Belarus gets involved? I dont see the West sitting on the sidelines for that. Does Poland start running air support or direct support against Belarus? If Putin is telling Lukashenko to get involved then things cant be going well for the Russians. Does Russia fight the Ukrainians and go after the Poles at the same time for attacking Belarus? Do they have the capability for that much coordination?

If Belarus attacks Ukraine. Poland will jump in. At that point, NATO and Russia will soon be attacking each other. Then it's Game On!
 

Squid

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How very British of England to come up with a half-@$$ed plan to cost the lives of soldiers not in the British army..

It does hold strategic value but Ukraine is not in position with no real remaining naval assets to hold it. It would be a problem if Russia lost it but its not big enough to prevent somebig boomies to knock the Ukraines off the rock.

If the Ukrainians are letting the British help plan their operations they may not be as clever as their reputation.
 

naegling62

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Belarus? That's the Axis coalition? With some mercs from Syria and crazies from Chechnya? WW III isn't shaping up so well for the Axis.
 

AlfaMan

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yea, so why are Poland and Ukraine so alarmed?

Belarus armed forces works on exactly the model as the former USSR and current Russia. Same equipment same structure-twins essentially. It would be REAL easy to float in Russian forces in Belarussian uniforms. At least that's how someone in the thick of some things explained it.

Remember, WW2 was started by Germans in Polish uniforms attacking a German radio station.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
The Belarusians move to expand the front, relieving pressure for Russia in the East. Russian/Belarusian forces might be able to cut supply lines to Ukraine if the Western border falls to Red team. NATO won't intervene directly unless there is a major provocation by Red Team
There is no indication that Belarus really wants to do anything but cheer for team Putin. If Russia was rolling they would probably jump in late to get the we were there t shirt but with the whole conflict becoming a meat grinder Belarus imho wants nothing to do but posture on the Nato border.

Belarus has been an interesting issue, allowing Russian troops to invade from Belarus but only providing very limited direct Belarus military involvement.

If Belarus jumped in in a meaningful way I see a pretty quick succession of Arch Duke Ferdinand dominoes falling.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
So, since Russia "knows the pain and suffering" of having been invaded in the past, it is now allowed to inflict that same pain and suffering on another country? Well, they did warn Ukraine, so as long they have suffered in the past and warned Ukraine, then it is OK to invade them. Seems like odd logic.

I just don't see that two wrongs make a right.
Ukraine refused to follow through with their end of the Minsk Agreement, and allowed the Azov nazi militias to kill 14,000 Russian-speaking ukrainians. Refused also to forego MEMBERSHIP in NATO, also, which would have ended with NATO missiles on the Russian border. Think “”Cuban missile crisis”... so yes, the Russians have acted appropriately. NATO reneged on its promise to the Russians not to extend their influence one inch towards the east. Zelensky could have saved Ukraine easily, and the thousands of people who have died because of his extremely bad choices.
 

jward

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Dave Techz
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"UNREAL SCENE, MULTIPLE EXPLOSIONS" Insane footage of Ukraine's 54th Mechanized Brigade showing artillery strikes on a Russian armored column.
View: https://twitter.com/ChuckPfarrer/status/1524093575704817667?s=20&t=kcc5yVf5cuHpM0MQ3hd3eg
 
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jward

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EndGameWW3
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This is very interesting... 100 miles from Ukraine, NATO special forces carry out training drills on the Black Sea
View: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1524082106485252097?s=20&t=kcc5yVf5cuHpM0MQ3hd3eg





Ukraine War Map
@War_Mapper

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Updates: Ukraine have recaptured Pytomnyk, North of Kharkiv. Ukraine have reached the border with after retaking control of Ternova.
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Nathan Ruser
@Nrg8000

4h

Unconfirmed but solid reports that Ukrainian troops have reached the Russian border to the North-East of Kharkiv near the town of Ternova. Today the UAF General Staff announced that Russian troops have withdrawn across the border. This unconfirmed news makes that seem more likely
View: https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1524113813024690176?s=20&t=kcc5yVf5cuHpM0MQ3hd3eg
 

DuckandCover

Proud Sheeple
Ukraine refused to follow through with their end of the Minsk Agreement, and allowed the Azov nazi militias to kill 14,000 Russian-speaking ukrainians. Refused also to forego MEMBERSHIP in NATO, also, which would have ended with NATO missiles on the Russian border. Think “”Cuban missile crisis”... so yes, the Russians have acted appropriately. NATO reneged on its promise to the Russians not to extend their influence one inch towards the east. Zelensky could have saved Ukraine easily, and the thousands of people who have died because of his extremely bad choices.

So, Russia doesn't like the thought of NATO having bases in Ukraine, so they are "protecting themselves" by invading Ukraine. Sounds like Russia has more of a beef with NATO than Ukraine. So, that being the case, why didn't they attack NATO instead of Ukraine? I know..... that answer is obvious.
 

Housecarl

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EndGameWW3
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This is very interesting... 100 miles from Ukraine, NATO special forces carry out training drills on the Black Sea
View: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1524082106485252097?s=20&t=kcc5yVf5cuHpM0MQ3hd3eg





Ukraine War Map
@War_Mapper

6m

Updates: Ukraine have recaptured Pytomnyk, North of Kharkiv. Ukraine have reached the border with after retaking control of Ternova.
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Nathan Ruser
@Nrg8000

4h

Unconfirmed but solid reports that Ukrainian troops have reached the Russian border to the North-East of Kharkiv near the town of Ternova. Today the UAF General Staff announced that Russian troops have withdrawn across the border. This unconfirmed news makes that seem more likely
View: https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1524113813024690176?s=20&t=kcc5yVf5cuHpM0MQ3hd3eg

So if this is the case, we now wait and see whether the Ukrainians stay on their side of the old border or go into Russian territory and dig in.
 

Housecarl

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Hummm.....

Posted for fair use.....

Richard Haass: If Ukraine wins the war, Putin ‘might actually be tempted to use chemical or nuclear weapons’

Council on Foreign Relations President Richard Haass joins Andrea Mitchell to talk about the prospect of a drawn-out war in Ukraine and the risk of President Putin further escalating the war. “We’d better gear ourselves and gear our policy for a long, protracted policy. I don't see Vladimir Putin giving up because then he'd have to justify all these costs against very little results,” says Haass. If Ukraine wins the war, “that’s a scenario where somebody like Putin, who’s under very few constraints, might actually be tempted to use chemical or nuclear weapons.”

May 10, 2022
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
So, Russia doesn't like the thought of NATO having bases in Ukraine, so they are "protecting themselves" by invading Ukraine. Sounds like Russia has more of a beef with NATO than Ukraine. So, that being the case, why didn't they attack NATO instead of Ukraine? I know..... that answer is obvious.
JFK told Russia to withdraw their missiles from Cuba or we would invade Cuba. And yes, Russia and NATO know that they are at war. Did you just notice? It is called a proxy war. This has been the nature of virtually all wars since the end of WW2 until the “War on Terror”.

the Nazis in Ukraine -and the Wall Street crowd and the Military Industrial Complex - and Biden who is trying to hide his own crimes in the Ukraine - are the folks that demand that the US fund them, are the villains in this story. By the way since you only just realized that the war is between NATO and Russia, did you happen to realize yet that Russia is no longer a communist country but DC is run by pschopathic nazis?
 

DuckandCover

Proud Sheeple
JFK told Russia to withdraw their missiles from Cuba or we would invade Cuba. And yes, Russia and NATO know that they are at war. Did you just notice? It is called a proxy war. This has been the nature of virtually all wars since the end of WW2 until the “War on Terror”.

the Nazis in Ukraine -and the Wall Street crowd and the Military Industrial Complex - and Biden who is trying to hide his own crimes in the Ukraine - are the folks that demand that the US fund them, are the villains in this story. By the way since you only just realized that the war is between NATO and Russia, did you happen to realize yet that Russia is no longer a communist country but DC is run by pschopathic nazis?

No true good guys in this war. However, the act of actually starting this war lies completely on Russia. I guess they are the bad-bad guys in all of this.

Proxy wars..... yup, thankfully that's how it has been done for decades. I would prefer no wars at all though, but at least these did prevent what potentially could have been much, much more damaging outcomes.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The ukies Alfa Man are winning skirmishes and losing the war. The Russians are winning the war and losing skirmishes here and there. Big difference.
 

WTSR

Veteran Member
The ukies Alfa Man are winning skirmishes and losing the war. The Russians are winning the war and losing skirmishes here and there. Big difference.

RT 23:30

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiI_x8wRaSk


Doug, you are looking so very good in this video :jstr:

Seriously Ex-Military saying exactly you said that the war is almost over, and after the lines break in the west they can march to the Dneiper.

Also talking about the Snake Island defeat of Ukraine which they are claiming online in the Twitter Sphere as a Russian defeat.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
No true good guys in this war. However, the act of actually starting this war lies completely on Russia. I guess they are the bad-bad guys in all of this.

Proxy wars..... yup, thankfully that's how it has been done for decades. I would prefer no wars at all though, but at least these did prevent what potentially could have been much, much more damaging outcomes.
It ain’t over yet, the Dems and rinos are taking out loans in our names to pay to keep it going.
 

Trouble

Veteran Member
Belarus? That's the Axis coalition? With some mercs from Syria and crazies from Chechnya? WW III isn't shaping up so well for the Axis.
Maybe not conventionally. But they have a shitpile of nukes . I for one don't buy the whole bumbling Russian military thing that so many believe. The only reason the ukes have been successful as they have is because of our input with weps and Intel, period. This is a trap and we are bumbling right into it.
 

WTSR

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Athens
Wednesday, May 11, 2022
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Main topics: Ukraine • 10/05/2022 - 20:56 Escalation: 10,000 Polish-Lithuanian troops to enter Ukraine - 20,000 Ukrainians on Belarus border - US's 40 billion
A scene of rapid escalation was set up

Military movements on the Poland-Belarus-Ukraine border show a rapid escalation in the coming days.

These moves are accompanied by political decisions moving in the direction of military engagement.
Is the document genuine?

A leaked document reveals that a "Lithuania-Poland joint peacekeeping corps" has been prepared to enter Ukraine.

The document was sent to the President of the State Border Service of Ukraine, Serhiy Daynek, stating that the entry of forces will take place on May 22-24.

The joint "Lithuania-Poland Peacekeeping Squad" will consist of 9,500 soldiers and 279 units of military equipment…

"Leave Moldova & Transnistria immediately": Great military mobilization of Poland, Romania and Ukraine!
Signs of rapid escalation

The authenticity of the document has not yet been confirmed, but in recent days strong military forces have been gathering from Poland and Ukraine on the border with Belarus, a fact that points to the entry of a "peacekeeping detachment in the country".

The United States continues to deploy forces near the Belarusian border under the guise of exercises. Thus, in the Polish city of Wolomin, on May 9, a train carrying American Abrams tanks was seen on the Polish-Belarusian border.
The US is giving 40 billion to Ukraine for tanks, anti-aircraft and other equipment.
Lithuania called Russia's actions in Ukraine "genocide" and "terrorism." This could lead to the deployment of military forces to Ukraine. It's a way of justifying military action.
However, it seems that "something is happening in the area". Yesterday, the President of Belarus, A. Lukashenko, was asked by a journalist about a "possible military threat from Poland".

His response was “Let them try. "We did not break the horns like that here."
 
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Tex88

Veteran Member
So, Russia doesn't like the thought of NATO having bases in Ukraine, so they are "protecting themselves" by invading Ukraine. Sounds like Russia has more of a beef with NATO than Ukraine. So, that being the case, why didn't they attack NATO instead of Ukraine? I know..... that answer is obvious.

Russia is lying about 'durrr 14k people killed by Ukraine nazis' and how come Austria and Switzerland aren't bitching about being surrounded by NATO countries?
In their entire history, Russia has never not been lying duplicitous conniving bastards and NOW I'm suddenly supposed to believe them? Yeah no. Don't care how many "but what about when...." bullshit their pull out of their asses and have helpful idiots repost it as if they discovered something amazing.
 

Tex88

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Main topics: Ukraine • 10/05/2022 - 20:56 Escalation: 10,000 Polish-Lithuanian troops to enter Ukraine - 20,000 Ukrainians on Belarus border ...

Another thing russian agitprop has been fantasizing about for weeks now.
 

raven

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Pelosi: "When you're home thinking about [what $40 billion to Ukraine] is all about, just think about 'when I was hungry, you fed me' from the Gospel of Matthew."
View: https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1524193428975853568?s=20&t=kcc5yVf5cuHpM0MQ3hd3eg
. . . and the lord said, when I was out of ammo, you sent me anti-tank missiles, stingers, howitzers, and half billion rounds of 7.62 . . .
 
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