FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition

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Red Baron

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IF it were the old time Barqs - before they sold out to CocaCola - I would not only pay that price without complaint, but I would drive all the way from Memphis to Texas to buy it!

But alas, it isn’t the old time Barqs…

This is made in Milwaukee County. I even took the plant tour.

I hardly ever drink soda but these are very good. I used to get these as a treat for DD when she was little.


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nomifyle

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Wow!! I have one large chest freezer which is full and needs defrosted. I try to always have enough jars, lids etc. on-hand to can up the contents should the SHTF. I cannot imagine doing that with 7 freezers!!!!!!
I have a lot of jars, and plenty of lids and rings. Lately I've been dehydrating frozen vegetables, lots of them to get done.
 

vessie

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Went to Costco last Wednesday to miss the payday crowd. The place was packed to the gills and every cart was full to over flowing. We're here in SoCal, nothing going on. Talked to DW's aunt and DW's best friend and they saw the same thing when they went shopping this last week. Crazy busy....and of course prices are skyrocketing everywhere.
It would seem to me that the everyday shopper is starting to smell blood on the wind. V
 

SouthernBreeze

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Wow ! I don't know how you manage and rotate all that so nothing goes to waste.

With 2 of us rotating and managing food seems like full time job ! I have always stocked more for winter but have to set limits. Have thrown out my share of expired foods and old beans that won't soften over the decades. Learned lessons. Things will go rancid.

Foods generally don't go rancid if kept frozen. Freezer burn would be our problem with 7 freezers for just 2 people. We don't eat freezer burned food, so it would probably mostly go to waste, here.
 

Reasonable Rascal

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Wow ! I don't know how you manage and rotate all that so nothing goes to waste.

With 2 of us rotating and managing food seems like full time job ! I have always stocked more for winter but have to set limits. Have thrown out my share of expired foods and old beans that won't soften over the decades. Learned lessons. Things will go rancid.
Opened and served our last (?) can of creamed corn, purchased in 1997, last evening for supper. Didn't even taste tinny.

Some things will go rancid, but Spam will outlast even the cockroaches.

RR
 

summerthyme

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Foods generally don't go rancid if kept frozen. Freezer burn would be our problem with 7 freezers for just 2 people. We don't eat freezer burned food, so it would probably mostly go to waste, here.
You'd be surprised! I went to vacuum packing all my pork after a bunch of boneless pork loins (on sale for 99 cents a pound... had the butcher cut them into chops and several roasts) got seriously nasty after about 16 months. I was able to salvage it by trimming off ALL the fat and then making it into pork stew, but the fat was nasty... as soon as it thawed you could smell it.

My biggest beef of all the "cost cutting" and "shrinkflation" companies pull is what Ziploc and every other "freezer bag" manufacturer has done to their bags! "Freezer bags are now actually thinner than regular storage bags used to be. They're OK for short term freezer storage (a month or two), but they do NOT protect food from oxygen, and stuff freezer burns like crazy in them.

Thankfully, vacuum seal bags are MUCH cheaper than they used to be... now, if I could just find my FoodSaver in the storage units!

Summerthyme
 

SouthernBreeze

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You'd be surprised! I went to vacuum packing all my pork after a bunch of boneless pork loins (on sale for 99 cents a pound... had the butcher cut them into chops and several roasts) got seriously nasty after about 16 months. I was able to salvage it by trimming off ALL the fat and then making it into pork stew, but the fat was nasty... as soon as it thawed you could smell it.

My biggest beef of all the "cost cutting" and "shrinkflation" companies pull is what Ziploc and every other "freezer bag" manufacturer has done to their bags! "Freezer bags are now actually thinner than regular storage bags used to be. They're OK for short term freezer storage (a month or two), but they do NOT protect food from oxygen, and stuff freezer burns like crazy in them.

Thankfully, vacuum seal bags are MUCH cheaper than they used to be... now, if I could just find my FoodSaver in the storage units!

Summerthyme

I wish I had a FoodSaver, but I don't. I may be able to afford one in the future, but not right now. I have 2 chest freezers, and that's enough for us. In a SHTF event, two freezers are all I want to keep the generator running for. That way, there's not that much canning to do to empty them out. I'm already in the process of doing that, since some of the meat is getting pretty close to being 2 years old, already. I'm canning the oldest, first.
 
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hd5574

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I use my food saver all the time...
I found and started using Avid Armor bags...much less expensive than food saver bags...and they work great....this company also makes sealers
The bags are available on Amazon and their website... check to see which place is less expensive..it changes from time to time..
 

TxGal

Day by day
I use my food saver all the time...
I found and started using Avid Armor bags...much less expensive than food saver bags...and they work great....this company also makes sealers
The bags are available on Amazon and their website... check to see which place is less expensive..it changes from time to time..
Those are the ones I use, too. I've never had a problem at all.
 
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Zagdid

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Wife stopped at the dollar store for some paper plates among other things. They didn't have any, only foam plates (again).
The shelves throughout the store were decimated with empty locations. Paper products cleared out. The warehouse for this store is only about 15 minutes away from it.
 

energy_wave

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I scored some 80% lean ground beef and a strip steak about an hour ago at my local store, along with a few macadamia nut cookies. The meat averaged $3.30 per lb when I combined all three packages. Not a bad price on the cookies. I'm saving up chili meat. My tomato's are still green, but I'm picking the entire bunch by Sunday so I can process them for spaghetti sauce and chili. And, I'm saving seeds, cuz I don't think you will find to many by next year.

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energy_wave

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Wife stopped at the dollar store for some paper plates among other things. They didn't have any, only foam plates (again).
The shelves throughout the store were decimated with empty locations. Paper products cleared out. The warehouse for this store is only about 15 minutes away from it.
I was using the cheapest dollar general paper plates to feed my cats on so I could just toss them in the trash. Had a hard time finding them all year, so I went back to washing china plates. Their spice rack display turned into a spice shelf.
 

anna43

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If you don't have a vacuum sealer, double bagging and wrapping in freezer paper will help with prevention of freezer burn. Vacuum sealers are not terribly expensive, but the ongoing cost of bags can get pricy. I consider the cost worth preserving the quality of expensive meat and poultry.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I scored some 80% lean ground beef and a strip steak about an hour ago at my local store, along with a few macadamia nut cookies. The meat averaged $3.30 per lb when I combined all three packages. Not a bad price on the cookies. I'm saving up chili meat. My tomato's are still green, but I'm picking the entire bunch by Sunday so I can process them for spaghetti sauce and chili. And, I'm saving seeds, cuz I don't think you will find to many by next year.

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I am PROUD YOU ARE A MEMBER HERE!
You are showing everyone, especially newbies how to save money and prep.
Good on ya!
 

ainitfunny

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If you don't have a vacuum sealer, double bagging and wrapping in freezer paper will help with prevention of freezer burn. Vacuum sealers are not terribly expensive, but the ongoing cost of bags can get pricy. I consider the cost worth preserving the quality of expensive meat and poultry.
Keep an eye out for rolls of sealer bags AT THRIFT STORES, yard and estate sales.

I have quite a few I've bought for $.50 or $1 a box with only a couple missing.
The sealer machiine itself can be found used for $2-$5 or $6!
 
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SouthernBreeze

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If you don't have a vacuum sealer, double bagging and wrapping in freezer paper will help with prevention of freezer burn. Vacuum sealers are not terribly expensive, but the ongoing cost of bags can get pricy. I consider the cost worth preserving the quality of expensive meat and poultry.

I found out the hard way this morning about not using a FoodSaver. I lost several pounds of ground beef, because it was freezer burned, and smelled bad. Had a date of early 2020 on it all. I've just been using freezer storage bags, but most of what I have in the freezer is less than 1 year old and fine, except for this pocket of meat that was way down on the bottom of one freezer. It will make good dog food, though.

Hopefully, I'll be able to get a FoodSaver, before too long. I'm determined to fit it into our budget somehow.
 

summerthyme

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I found out the hard way this morning about not using a FoodSaver. I lost several pounds of ground beef, because it was freezer burned, and smelled bad. Had a date of early 2020 on it all. I've just been using freezer storage bags, but most of what I have in the freezer is less than 1 year old and fine, except for this pocket of meat that was way down on the bottom of one freezer. It will make good dog food, though.

Hopefully, I'll be able to get a FoodSaver, before too long. I'm determined to fit it into our budget somehow.
In the meantime, double bag high value foods... you could buy a pack of the 2 gallon ziplocks they sell, and put multiple packs of ground beef or whatever in them.

We've used ground beef that was at least 5 years old, and it was absolutely fine... but, it was home grown, and frozen in the heavy plastic "chubs" by our butcher. That way of packaging eliminates all air, which is the key to long storage.

While we're on the subject, "frost free" freezers definitely don't keep food as long as the older manual defrost models... they warm up periodically to melt the frost off the walks and shelves, and that shortens freezer life. You really need to package well if you've got one of the self defrost models.

Summerthyme
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
I found out the hard way this morning about not using a FoodSaver. I lost several pounds of ground beef, because it was freezer burned, and smelled bad. Had a date of early 2020 on it all. I've just been using freezer storage bags, but most of what I have in the freezer is less than 1 year old and fine, except for this pocket of meat that was way down on the bottom of one freezer. It will make good dog food, though.

Hopefully, I'll be able to get a FoodSaver, before too long. I'm determined to fit it into our budget somehow.
Uhhh... are you really sure you want to give your fur kids meat that smells bad?

Here's a link for an inexpensive sealer. Just passing along, I can't personally vouch for it. About $35. The link looks funny after posting, but it should work.

 
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SouthernBreeze

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In the meantime, double bag high value foods... you could buy a pack of the 2 gallon ziplocks they sell, and put multiple packs of ground beef or whatever in them.

We've used ground beef that was at least 5 years old, and it was absolutely fine... but, it was home grown, and frozen in the heavy plastic "chubs" by our butcher. That way of packaging eliminates all air, which is the key to long storage.

While we're on the subject, "frost free" freezers definitely don't keep food as long as the older manual defrost models... they warm up periodically to melt the frost off the walks and shelves, and that shortens freezer life. You really need to package well if you've got one of the self defrost models.

Summerthyme

Thanks for the tip about double bagging! I'll do that from now on. We have been buying all our ground beef in "chubs" for the last few months and putting them in gallon freezer bags. 3 chubs will fit in each gallon bag. I've never paid attention enough to know that there were 2 gallon freezer bags. Those would really come in handy!
 

SouthernBreeze

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Uhhh... are you really sure you want to give your fur kids meat that smells bad?

Here's a link for an inexpensive sealer. Just passing along, I can't personally vouch for it.


If I cook it first, will it be ok, then? I'll just throw it away if it's not safe.
 

summerthyme

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I have no idea, but I err on the side of caution and would never give our dogs anything that I am unwilling to eat. Vet bills are way more expensive than a couple of pounds of hamburger.
ROTFLMAO! Sorry... but you never saw farm and country dogs! They eat days (or weeks) old rotting critters, manure, eggs from a hidden nest that explode when they bite them...

Freezer burned meat isn't going to hurt them at all. It wouldn't *hurt* a human... in more desperate times, you'd toss it into a highly seasoned dish like chili without a qualm.

Summerthyme
 

tnphil

Don't screw with an engineer
ROTFLMAO! Sorry... but you never saw farm and country dogs! They eat days (or weeks) old rotting critters, manure, eggs from a hidden nest that explode when they bite them...

Freezer burned meat isn't going to hurt them at all. It wouldn't *hurt* a human... in more desperate times, you'd toss it into a highly seasoned dish like chili without a qualm.

Summerthyme
The freezer burn wouldn't bother me. The bad smell would.

And I do realize their digestive system is different than ours. Heck, our Chocolate Lab eats rocks and sticks. Lol.

As I said, I err on the side of caution. We lost a part-Newfie about 4 years ago due to his eating something bad. Two weeks in the hospital, one week home, then returned to vet's office to cross the bridge.
 

summerthyme

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The freezer burn wouldn't bother me. The bad smell would.

And I do realize their digestive system is different than ours. Heck, our Chocolate Lab eats rocks and sticks. Lol.

As I said, I err on the side of caution. We lost a part-Newfie about 4 years ago due to his eating something bad. Two weeks in the hospital, one week home, then returned to vet's office to cross the bridge.
Freezer burned meat smells bad when it thaws. And yes, there are things dogs can't handle... anything moldy gets put in the compost pile. As long as it wasn't ever thawed before, it shouldn't have any bacterial growth.

Summerthyme
 

SouthernBreeze

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Freezer burned meat smells bad when it thaws. And yes, there are things dogs can't handle... anything moldy gets put in the compost pile. As long as it wasn't ever thawed before, it shouldn't have any bacterial growth.

Summerthyme

Yeah, freezer burned meat stinks. You can smell it as it thaws. I've almost gagged on the smell alone not to mention trying to eat it. All meat that I buy comes straight from the store, bagged, dated, and into the freezer it goes. No time for it to spoil. In hard time, I guess I would eat freezer burned meat, or go without, but as long as I don't have to, I ain't.
 

phloydius

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If I cook it first, will it be ok, then? I'll just throw it away if it's not safe.

As Summerthyme said, freezer burnt food is safe to eat, just not so appealing. I have heard people mention that you can "recover" it by putting it in a brine, but I have never researched it.

What I do with freeze burnt meat is I make a stock out of it. The stock does have an 'off' flavor, so I don't can it for longer term storage instead I use it right away. The dishes I make with it would be ones that have a very strong flavor such as a heavily spiced bean recipe (not the lightly spices ones that most people make). Also I don't use it for dishes that have rice in them, because the rice seems to absorb and amply the bad flavor -- but I do not know why.
 

SouthernBreeze

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As Summerthyme said, freezer burnt food is safe to eat, just not so appealing. I have heard people mention that you can "recover" it by putting it in a brine, but I have never researched it.

What I do with freeze burnt meat is I make a stock out of it. The stock does have an 'off' flavor, so I don't can it for longer term storage instead I use it right away. The dishes I make with it would be ones that have a very strong flavor such as a heavily spiced bean recipe (not the lightly spices ones that most people make). Also I don't use it for dishes that have rice in them, because the rice seems to absorb and amply the bad flavor -- but I do not know why.

Like I said in an earlier post, I can't get past the smell. I wouldn't have a problem with cooking it for our dog.
 
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