Obama skips church, heads to gym

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Obama skips church, heads to gym
By JONATHAN MARTIN & CAROL E. LEE
11/23/08 3:41 PM EST

President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.

On the three Sundays since his election, Obama has instead used his free time to get in workouts at a Chicago gym.

Asked about the president-elect's decision to not attend church, a transition aide noted that the Obamas valued their faith experience in Chicago but were concerned about the impact their large retinue may have on other parishioners.

"Because they have a great deal of respect for places of worship, they do not want to draw unwelcome or inappropriate attention to a church not used to the attention their attendance would draw," said the aide.

Both President-elect George W. Bush and President-elect Bill Clinton managed to attend church in the weeks after they were elected.

In November of 1992, Clinton went to services in Little Rock, Ark., on the three weekends following his election, taking pre-church jogs on the first two and attending on the third weekend a Catholic Mass with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, with whom he was trying to smooth over lingering campaign tensions.

In the weeks after the contested 2000 election, Bush regularly attended services at Tarrytown United Methodist Church in Austin, Texas, and Al Gore was frequently photographed arriving at and leaving church in Virginia.

On his first day as president-elect, following weeks of Florida recounts and court hearings, Bush went to church with his wife, Laura. They attended an invite-only prayer service on Thursday, Dec. 14, at Tarrytown United Methodist Church. About 300 people attended, including top campaign staff and visiting clergy. During the service, the Rev. Mark Craig, senior pastor at Highland Park United Methodist Church in Dallas, told Bush, "You have been chosen by God to lead the people."

Obama was an infrequent churchgoer on the campaign trail, though he did make a series of appearances in the pews and pulpits of South Carolina churches ahead of that heavily religious state's primary.

The issue of where he worships is, of course, fraught. For about two decades, Obama and his family attended Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. But, with the public disclosure earlier this year of incendiary sermons at Trinity by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama and his wife, Michelle, in June resigned their membership in the large Southside congregation.

At the time, the then-Illinois senator said that he didn't want his "church experience to be a political circus" and expressed regret for the unwanted attention members of the congregation had received, noting that some reporters had taken church bulletins only to call sick members and shut-ins.

During the campaign, Obama returned to Chicago to attend the Southside's Apostolic Church of God on Father's Day Sunday to give a speech aimed at the black community on the importance of fatherhood and family.

A number of Washington, D.C., churches of different dominations and traditions are now competing to become the spiritual home of the new first family.

The Obama aide said the family "look forward to finding a church community in Washington, D.C."
 

newsgirl

Inactive
I'm sure he'll find the Wright church, given time.

Hahaha.

Seriously, is anyone surprised? Mark my words, he'll be talking all about how "the important thing is to be good and do good for yourself, not for God" and how he "doesn't want to be defined by his 'very private' religious beliefs" and how a president who attends one kind of church "doesn't appear to represent America fairly" -- as time goes on, he'll become more and more vocally secular.
 

fruit loop

Inactive
He probably doesn't want to be stared at, and needs that DAY OF REST.

You aren't a bad person if you don't sit in a church and listen to someone talk for an hour per week. You aren't a better person if you do.

You don't need to be in a church to talk to God.
 

Navydad

Inactive
He probably doesn't want to be stared at, and needs that DAY OF REST.

You aren't a bad person if you don't sit in a church and listen to someone talk for an hour per week. You aren't a better person if you do.

You don't need to be in a church to talk to God.


yeppers.
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Fruit holder Fruit Loop
 

D_el

Veteran Member
Cut the guy some slack. He was doing his thing on his prayer ru.... I mean. exercise mat.

It was just a coincidence that his exercise mat was pointed toward Mecca.
:groucho:
 

Zinnia

Constancy
So, you guys really care about this issue?

:shr:

Not me.There are too many other things to worry about when it comes to Obama.I'd make a list,but in about two hours there's a good movie coming on that I want to watch.Not enough time.
 

Stormy

Veteran Member
Well of course he wouldn't go to Church on Sunday, because he is not a Christian. When will America wake up about this?

Blacks should be upset about this, but it doesn't look like they are. Yeah, why wasn't *HE* at church and then a Gospel Brunch?
 

newsgirl

Inactive
So, you guys really care about this issue?

:shr:

Yes, because he made such a big, honkin' deal about "Yes, huh, I am SO a Christian" and then said "my Muslim faith" and made disparaging remarks about Christians. And then he went to a super scary, hate-filled church and called THAT Christian. So his faith is in fact very pertinent to his ability to distinguish right from wrong and to tell truth from, to put it nicely, fiction.

And he was voted in with the understanding from his followers (of which, as you know, I am NOT one) that he was in fact a devoted Christian. If not, he could have still been elected... but maybe not by those people. It's part of the contract that he made with them.

Does being devoted mean he HAS to go to church?

No.

But it would sure help with some of the questions (mentioned above) that are important and start in the area of his faith.

And -- I find it curious that a gym can "handle" his political, um, celebrity, but he can't find a single church that can manage it.
 

newsgirl

Inactive
Oh, and I also care about it, in general, because I am a Christian.

I just didn't think that would hold much weight with you, since you didn't think it was an issue, so I didn't put that on my list.

But it is the top of the list in my life.
 

Jumpy Frog

Browncoat sympathizer
Is not the body a temple in the eyes of God?

If he's working to improve himself or God's temple and is not sinning on the Sabbath............why the outcry? :shr:
 

VesperSparrow

Goin' where the lonely go
We are going to have to shoot our way out of this crap that these morally neglected voters got us into.

Thanks to you who think that you owe your very soul to a race that could care NOTHING about you.

You think you voted for the black guy, when in fact you voted for someone who came from nowhere with nothing in his bag of tricks and with no experience to lead a Tom Thumb cashier convention, much LESS a fricking COUNTRY, but you'll get what you PAID for.
 

breezyhill

Veteran Member
We are going to have to shoot our way out of this crap that these morally neglected voters got us into.

Thanks to you who think that you owe your very soul to a race that could care NOTHING about you.

You think you voted for the black guy, when in fact you voted for someone who came from nowhere with nothing in his bag of tricks and with no experience to lead a Tom Thumb cashier convention, much LESS a fricking COUNTRY, but you'll get what you PAID for.

you tell it, Vesper.:applaud::applaud::applaud:

Breezyhill
 

fruit loop

Inactive
I'm so sick of this allegation.

#1 - it's a lie. Barack is a Christian.

#2 - if he wasn't.....SO WHAT. All Muslims are not bad people, and a person does not have to be a Christian in order to be decent.
 

Topusaret

Deceased
Is not the body a temple in the eyes of God?

If he's working to improve himself or God's temple and is not sinning on the Sabbath............why the outcry? :shr:

Man, even by the ever-lowering bar of lameness in political apologia, that was lame...lol
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
Wherever the Messiah goes, His Church is with Him. King Hussein is his own God, and his brain-dead worshippers would jump into a pit of molten lava in His Mighty Name....




:kk1:
 

breezyhill

Veteran Member
I'm so sick of this allegation.

#1 - it's a lie. Barack is a Christian.

#2 - if he wasn't.....SO WHAT. All Muslims are not bad people, and a person does not have to be a Christian in order to be decent.

"you'd be happy with a hindu and a goat"...archie bunker.

Breezyhill
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Yes, they are. The JWs are always welcome in my home. I gladly take a copy of Watchtower, and invite them in for some water and to cool down on hot days.
 

seven.sixtwo

Inactive
Yes, they are. The JWs are always welcome in my home. I gladly take a copy of Watchtower, and invite them in for some water and to cool down on hot days.

the few i encountered had no responses to me questioning their flawed beliefs. they stammer and then leave.
 
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