Obama Declares War on Conservative Talk Radio (More dangerous than Fairness Doctrine)

Fisher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/obama_declares_war_on_conserva.html

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Obama Declares War on Conservative Talk Radio
By Jim Boulet, Jr.
November 17, 2008

Barack Obama sought to silence his critics during his 2008 campaign. Now, with the ink barely dry on this November's ballots, Obama has begun a war against conservative talk radio.

Obama is on record as saying he does not plan an exhumation of the now-dead "Fairness Doctrine". Instead, Obama's attack on free speech will be far less understood by the general public and accordingly, far more dangerous.

The late community organizer Saul Alinsky taught his followers to strike hard from an unexpected direction, an approach known as Alinsky jujitsu. Obama himself not only worked as an organizer for an Alinsky offshoot organization, Chicago's Developing Communities Project, but would go on to teach classes in Alinsky's beliefs and methods.

"Alinsky jujitsu" as applied to conservative talk radio means using vague rules already on the books to threaten any station which dares to air conservative programs with the loss of its valuable broadcast license.

Team Obama and the "localism" weapon

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) rule in question is called "localism." Radio and television stations are required to serve the interests of their local community as a condition of keeping their broadcast licenses.

Obama needs only three votes from the five-member FCC to define localism in such a way that no radio station would dare air any syndicated conservative programming.

Localism is one of the rare issues on which Obama himself has been outspoken.

On September 20, 2007, Obama submitted a pro-localism written statement to an FCC hearing held at the Chicago headquarters of Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr.'s Operation Push.

Furthermore, the Obama transition team knows all about the potential of localism as a means of silencing conservative dissent. The head of the Obama transition team is John Podesta, President and CEO of the Center for American Progress.

In 2007, the Center for American Progress issued a report, The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio. This report complained that there was too much conservative talk on the radio because of "the absence of localism in American radio markets" and urged the FCC to "[e]nsure greater local accountability over radio licensing.

For Obama, when it comes to radio talk, silence is golden, at least when it comes to conservatives.
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
There are at least two local radio stations that I can pick up in the Indianapolis area that are conservative talk format, and a good portion of the programming is done by local conservative hosts. They include the national programming, such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannilty, but also regional and local people that focus on local issues as well as national. How does that fit into the definition of "localism"?
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
This has been batted back and forth in various places. I am not too sure how effective it would be, but as a harassment, might be good enough. Even if they shut down 10% of Limbaugh, that's 10% more than they got now.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

Bull, and utter bull.

Regulation of CONTENT is illegal, plain and simple.

For obama to even attempt such, wrapped up in whatever weasel words, proves what a complete marxist he is.

:sheep:
 

homepark

Resist
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

One could argue the same wrt the print media and most cable/air networks.
 

Karnie

Veteran Member
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

OMG. That is HILARIOUS! "influencing the outcome of elections" has of late been the stock and trade of the liberal TV news as well as the VAST majority of print newspapers in the country.

The libs made a stab at their own agenda on their own radio shows. Most of them failed miserably because they found no audience.

The conservative talk shows exist because they draw MASSIVE audiences and advertisers love to go where the people are - and give them what they want.

Capitalism. Look it up.
 

Topusaret

Deceased
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

Four words for you, energy wave:

Air America

Free Market

Liberal talk radio sucks. The hosts suck, the content sucks, the format sucks, so revenue sucks, ergo...Liberal talk radio died a well-deserved whimpering and whining death.

Fix those things, and Liberal Talk Radio can be just as pervasive. After all, if you were an advertiser, how much would you pay for a 30-second spot to reach all 327 of LTR's listeners nation-wide?
 

pugdog

Membership Revoked
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

There is NOTHING to prevent lib radio from broadcasting.

A while ago a local radio station started to broadcast a lib program. Nobody listened, no audience = no sponcership and the folded in a matter of months. That is FREE MARKET.

WOE TO THOSE WHO VIOLATE THE FIRST AMENDMENT, THEY WILL FIND OUT ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
 

Warthog

Black Out
We haven't seen nothing yet, if Sax B. Chambliss loses the re-vote down in Georgia, the demorats will have full control for at least two years and, we will be in full blown globalism/communism.
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Oh please.

Let's see.....Obama is after your guns, radios, tv sets, churches, houses, and wallets....thus far.

I wonder what he'll try to seize next? Your wife?
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Here is an interesting report from the Center of American Progress...

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/06/pdf/talk_radio.pdf


The “repeal” of the Fairness Doc-
trine in 1987 gave station owners and
hosts free reign to fill their program-
ming with ideologically conservative
content

91 percent of the political talk radio programming on the stations owned by the
top five commercial station owners is conservative, and 9 percent is progressive.
 

ceeblue

Veteran Member
For the liberal and progressive view, we have National Public Radio. It's pretty much everywhere.

Every once in awhile I try listening to it. But the whining and complaining and moaning and groaning is boring and snotty tones are obnoxious. And that's just the news. No one over there seems glad to be alive.
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
For the liberal and progressive view, we have National Public Radio. It's pretty much everywhere.

Every once in awhile I try listening to it. But the whining and complaining and moaning and groaning is boring and snotty tones are obnoxious. And that's just the news. No one over there seems glad to be alive.

...and subsidized by taxpayers too.

:kk1:
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
Face it, libs, ALL of the other media is and has been overwhelmingly liberal. This is the reason people flock to listen to conservative talk RADIO.
Don't you think if people weren't essentially shut out from the conservative point of view in other media, talk radio would not be so big?
The American people as a whole are smart enough to turn away from the liberal brainwashing attempts and get their "other side" from radio, but also the one semi-conservative TV news outlet, Fox news.

Liberal talk radio is ALWAYS doomed to failure because it is just "more of the same" liberal view spewed by all the other media.

To shut down conservative talk radio is to shut down the opposition viewpoint, something that can't possibly be more un-American...but that's libs for ya!
Libs would be quite happy if we had an American "Pravda" liberal state controlled news only...bunch of freakin' traitors to America and her values.
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
. . . There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

Source, please?
Specific election and how influenced, please?
Broadcast where, by whom, please?
What were the "lies", and what was the "truth", please?
etc? etc? etc?
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Four words for you, energy wave:

Air America

Free Market

Liberal talk radio sucks. The hosts suck, the content sucks, the format sucks, so revenue sucks, ergo...Liberal talk radio died a well-deserved whimpering and whining death.

Fix those things, and Liberal Talk Radio can be just as pervasive. After all, if you were an advertiser, how much would you pay for a 30-second spot to reach all 327 of LTR's listeners nation-wide?

That's it right there. The latest experiment in "progressive" talk radio, Air America, performed so poorly from both an artistic and business standpoint that they felt compelled to embezzle monies intended for childrens' charities in a laughable attempt to stay on the air.

Imagine that...these liberal felons at Air America thought their idiotic message so "valuable" that when advertisers balked at paying for it, they stole money from children and diverted it to their own nefarious purposes.

So, it leads one to wonder: How much value can "liberal talk radio" have if the only way you can get people to listen to it is by government fiat? At that point, the medium ceases to be entertainment and education, and crosses the line into government propaganda.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
?What, the so-called liberal cannot support a radio station?

There was a station in the Los Angeles Basin that was appealing to liberal / social causes. It began about a year and a half ago. I could not stomach the "common agenda" but I did direct a friend of mine to the station. He was always blasting "talk-radio" as too conservative. His comment was partially correct; for the most part it was conservative subject matter that supported the (conversations) that (conservative) people seem to be drawn to.

Whoop's what's up with the "(con)"?; I assure you, it is not a job. The Latin derivative for "con" is (with). (With) can be further defined as (in the presence of).

The Latin derivative for "serv" has two meanings the one that most likely fits the original intent of that portion of conservative is (to watch, keep safe, to maintain, preserve.

So it appears con-serv-a-tive is not a nasty word after all. For to be a conservative does not actually define party politics, it simply defines With watch, to keep safe, to maintain, preserve.

Funning Latin for (Liber) includes among many other definitions "to have free access to" and "outside of tradition", etc. That short definition is probably why the radio station failed. It is simply in the wrong "communicative" venue. Usually those type's of folks are into glued up posters on the sides of abandoned buildings and the opinion section of the newspaper where the editors choice of printing rebuttals to his/her intellectual diatribe is metered.

Diatribe: Latin (to spend time, to wear away to rub).

Dialogue, (the reciprocal conversation between two or more people) is the backbone of real-time-free speech where those ideas will either stand or fall on whatever the watchful traditions of the public at large support. Talk radio with all it's colorful broadcasters is still less of a threat to freedom than those who would attempt to balance the scales with control of the airwaves with their social engineering and brain-wash being given equal time.

O.K. enough of my diatribe. The veil has been "rubbed" thinner now.
 
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Grantbo

Membership Revoked
Oh please.

Let's see.....Obama is after your guns, radios, tv sets, churches, houses, and wallets....thus far.

I wonder what he'll try to seize next? Your wife?

You seem to be having a tough time down playing the distruction that obamma will wreak on this country. Nobody but your fellow dirty liberals believe this clap trap.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
_______________
Yeah...Talk radio so influenced the elections soooo much that Obama won.

Get a reality check EW and FL.I don't like the guy and sure as hell don't want him in any leadership positions but I would LOVE to pplay chess with him.

He can definatly think moves ahead of most people.
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
seven.sixtwo

Electoral College.

That is if he is not derecognized. There are many lawsuits demanding he produce his qualifications to be elected and these do have standing.
 

Y2kO

Inactive
Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannilty

They're not conservatives.
They are neocon criminals paid by the White House propaganda machine.

They are Clear Channel darlings, which has been allowed to buy up all the radio stations in America to preach their propaganda. Now Obama wants to do the same thing.
 

seven.sixtwo

Inactive
They're not conservatives.
They are neocon criminals paid by the White House propaganda machine.

They are Clear Channel darlings, which has been allowed to buy up all the radio stations in America to preach their propaganda. Now Obama wants to do the same thing.

ooh please.... Rush trashes the GOP nonstop. get some new talking points.
 

Y2kO

Inactive
ooh please.... Rush trashes the GOP nonstop.

Yeah, the neocons are trashing the GOP, their party of choice (for now anyway) They used to be Democrats 25-30 years ago.

PS: They're trashing the country, too.
 

seven.sixtwo

Inactive
Yeah, the neocons are trashing the GOP, their party of choice (for now anyway) They used to be Democrats 25-30 years ago.

PS: They're trashing the country, too.

something tells me you'd rather have pro-obama/liberal propaganda spewed at you from every medium.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

Idiot. How the hell is it "unfair?" Let me guess, it is "unfair" because someone else, no you, should be putting up the money to operate a station with liberal talk radio? I learned that most Americans get their national news from that half-hour of nightly news put out by NBC, ABC, and CBS. While I think this is changing, any Fairness Doctrine type rule should be applied to _all_ publicly regulated free transmissions. This means a counter to The View, Ellen, Oprah, etc. The Fairness Doctrine is a complete travesty as is the FCC. Radio and TV should be the person with the biggest signal wins. Let groups go out and develop their own bands and receivers and sell them to those who want to listen to their programming. Fools like you act as if conservative talk radio is holding a gun to the heads of the CEOs of broadcast companies. Guess what, they aren't. You may not like the truth, but the truth is that the vast majority of people in this country are not far left liberal loons. They don't want their fifth grader told about anal sex like the gay agenda wants. They don't want the government to pass a law making it mandatory for people to get non-programmable (programmed at the factory) thermostats in their home. Just because someone votes Democrat doesn't mean they want rolling blackouts on a constant basis because heaven forbid we have nuclear or coal plants to meet our electric demands. These people have their reason for voting for a Democrat, it doesn't mean they agree and want to listen to the far left idiots on the radio. If you think there is such a pent up demand for leftist talk, put your money where your mouth is.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
Oh please.

Let's see.....Obama is after your guns, radios, tv sets, churches, houses, and wallets....thus far.

I wonder what he'll try to seize next? Your wife?

I can't wait to see you and others eating your own words.

The agenda will be:
Fairness Doctrine
Assault weapons ban
Community Slavery

Thought in what order, who knows. I do know these things will be pushed by Obama within his first four years.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
All this talk of a right-wing power grab of radio is laughable.

Emmis Communications stock price is at $0.39
The CEO is a leftist liberal, played golf with Clinton, yet he has a local conservative host on in the afternoons followed by Rush Limbaugh.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=EMMS
With a stock price this low, why can't some of you Democrat Socialist pool your money and take over this company and broadcast what you want?

Don't want Emmis, then buy out these other media companies offered at rock bottom prices:

Cox Radio, Inc. CXR 4.07
Entercom Communications Corp. ETM 0.770
Cumulus Media Inc. CMLS 0.580
Saga Communications, Inc. SGA 2.90
Citadel Broadcasting Corporation CDL 0.220
Radio One, Inc. ROIAK 0.150
Regent Communications RGCI 0.210
Salem Communications Corp SALM 0.860
Westwood One, Inc. WON 0.130
Beasley Broadcast Group, Inc. BBGI 2.00

Time for you liberals to put up or shut-up. Hypocrites.
 

Worrier King

Deceased
Maybe I missed it, but is there a quote that's attributable to Obama in here somewhere? :shr:

Thank you in advance for bringing it to my attention. :lol:
 

kozanne

Inactive
The Fairness Doctrine was killed under Regan and has since allowed Conservative talk radio to dominate while stations consolidate ownership. Very unfair imo, because it's all one sided. There have been numerous instances of outright lies broadcast in such a way as to influence the outcome of elections, etc, etc, etc.

Well, that worked real well, didn't it?

Also, what about Air America? Were they not on the airwaves for awhile until they went bankrupt?
 
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