MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't know about this guy, but I've seen lots of people (mostly women) on social media who were sent home with a shingles diagnosis when the blisters clearly looked like monkeypox and NOT like shingles.

I don't know who all these medical experts are that are making the diagnosis of shingles, but, my mom has had shingles twice, and she had nothing that looks similar to these MP lesions. The two diseases are easily distinguishable.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Kinda strange, huh.

I'm just guessing here, but when a person presents with lesions with severe pain, the first thing medical doctor's think is shingles. They don't test for anything else. I had an area on my leg that was broken out in small blister like postules, and they hurt more than itched. I showed them to my doctor. Immediately, he said, "shingles". Nope, it turned out to be poison ivy rash.......Go figure!
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
I'm just guessing here, but when a person presents with lesions with severe pain, the first thing medical doctor's think is shingles. They don't test for anything else. I had an area on my leg that was broken out in small blister like postules, and they hurt more than itched. I showed them to my doctor. Immediately, he said, "shingles". Nope, it turned out to be poison ivy rash.......Go figure!
It looks like doctors don't know how to determine what the disease is any more!
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
Death Rate PSA

I have see a few posts start to pop up on social media saying things like "only 2 deaths" or "only 4 deaths" or "less deadly than Delta". They normally reference a rate of about 0.01% - 0.02% chance of dying, comparing the number of deaths (2-4) to the number of total cases (over 20,000). This is a very false reference. One important reason is that Monkeypox does not kill you the first day you start to show symptoms!

We do NOT know what the death rate for this version of the virus will end up being, and honestly the death rate is quite honestly one of the less scary parts of this disease.

What we do know is that the two old versions of Monkeypox had a death rate of 1% and 10%, as one was considerably more deadly than the other one. Those death rates were in areas of countries in Africa which had very limited health care. So, it is likely the death rate would be much lower with much better health care. I was never able to find a single case where someone flew from Africa, infected with Monkeypox already, into a country in Europe or North America that died of Monkeypox.

One data point I am missing is the average amount of time that someone takes to die after with/from Monkeypox. I do have a note in my old notes (Y2k-2010) that someone dies 4-8 weeks after showing the first symptoms. There is no mention of where I pulled that information from, and when I went out recently to validate it I have been unable to find any research that collaborates that data. However I have found quite a bit of data that says that "mild" cases resolve themselves within about 3 weeks after the first lesion appears. So until I find better data, I have been moving forward with the assumption that if you die with/from Monkeypox it is likely to take at least 4 weeks, and may take up to 8 weeks on average.

So if we take the 5 deaths, and compare them to the number of cases 4 weeks (6627) and 8 weeks ago (988), we get very different death rates than 0.01% - 0.02%. [And yes, I write down the number of total world wide and US cases every morning].

We get a death rate between 0.07% - 0.5% with the amazing full support of a dedicated medical staff focusing on their care.


If the numbers start piling up in the next few weeks, I may make future reference to the death rate in this format -- unless someone finds and posts better data that tells us how long Monkeypox takes to kill someone.

Updated death rate info: If we take the 13 deaths, and compare them to the number of cases 4 weeks (10170) and 8 weeks ago (1688), we get a death rate between 0.12% - 0.77% with the amazing full support of a dedicated medical staff focusing on their care.
 

Walkin' Away

Senior Member
Well, at least they are consistent :bhd:

Completely and totally clue-less, grasping at anything that makes them appear to be doing something.

I am still not convinced that this “disease” that is being found is not something that has laid dormant in many people and has been re-activated by the vaxx(s) and suppressed immune systems. (Shingles, chicken pox, etc.)

I am currently doing a self-study on vaccine preventable diseases. I am shocked by what I am reading. The recommended “shots” that our health authorities are advising people (all ages) to get is incredible.

As I keep reading, I am absolutely amazed that any of those that follow these guidelines…have any innate immunity left at all.

I am truly concerned for all of us (vaxxed & unvaxxed) with this development In regards to EUA for MP shots.

God Help Us…Please.

W. A.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I’d encourage you all to try and listen to their briefing. If you can.

It was interesting. Nothing so technical that you won’t understand it.
 

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
While catching up on the last several pages I noticed conflicting information about the spread and symptoms.

I recall that there are at least 8 different strains/types of monkeypox worldwide. I do not know how may different types are in the US.

We have only one Monkeypox thread and the many different types are one cause of conflicting information. We should keep in mind that differing information may be relating to differing strains and not necessarily be BS.

Shadow
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Please forgive my ignorance, but what is skin popping?

What is Skin Popping?
Drug users inject drugs in different ways. One of these ways is skin popping. Skin popping is a method used by some drug users to inject illicit drugs.
Heroin is the most commonly injected drug. Drugs like cocaine, buprenorphine barbiturates, and other opiates are also injected into the skin.1
Skin popping can also be referred to as subcutaneous injection or intradermal injection.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Reuters; they briefly summarize the emergency use authorization of vaccine etc in todays briefing:


Sorry I can’t summarize it myself; I’m on phone right now, with a family member and that kind of drama.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Kids under 18 get full dose. Also two vaccibes 28 days apart

Adults get two of the vaccines, at 1/5 the dose, 28 days apart.
They don’t know how well any of this will work with 100% certainty.

1/5 dose splitting “has been done before”

In the briefing they of course, had a LOT more details, I’m not able to go into that this second.
 

John Deere Girl

Veteran Member
What is Skin Popping?
Drug users inject drugs in different ways. One of these ways is skin popping. Skin popping is a method used by some drug users to inject illicit drugs.
Heroin is the most commonly injected drug. Drugs like cocaine, buprenorphine barbiturates, and other opiates are also injected into the skin.1
Skin popping can also be referred to as subcutaneous injection or intradermal injection.
Thank you!
 
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