TREASON Migrant Encounters

[Meemur]

I have two family members who are teachers in the Des Moines school system both teaching English as a second language. So, include their salaries and benefits as part of our taxes going to support illegals. Of course, not all are illegal, but I'd guess the majority are. How long before English is the first language, and they will be teaching Spanish??

Not all are illegal, but I don't see why I need to fund their English lessons.

In the not so distance past, churches taught them English for free and then followed up classes with a light lunch or dinner, often with donated food.

It was a different world back then. The American Dream was still attainable by working hard and saving.

 

[sjhenderson]

The encounters I have are normally at Sam's. 3-5 kids, full buggy of groceries using a SNAP card, going out to a new or almost new van, car or truck.

 

[AlfaMan]

It is a South Florida thing also.

Always a dozen or so sitting on the curb under the trees in the parking lot waiting to be offered work.

At least some of them are making an effort to earn some money.

It was until the last two months a thing in Woodbridge, VA. About 12 miles south of us.

There's a 7/11 across from Marunsco plaza (shopping center/landmark) where there would be 50-100 illegals hanging out every day of the week. These illegals wanted to work-a carpenter's or gutter truck pulls up and they would swarm the truck asking for work. They stayed away from the 7/11 customers and none of them panhandled from what I could see. Apparently it was a good arrangement; illegals got work and the businesses got hard workers.

Then about 2 months ago two new illegals got into a fight, one got stabbed in the parking lot. The county shut down the illegal worker's market and it's still closed. Think the illegals moved up the road to the Home Depot. That one stabbing ruined the chances of a lot of illegal men in getting work.

I despise illegal immigration. Hate it with a passion. But I won't down any man trying to find work. Even if it's cleanup and demeaning manual labor; you can't fault a man trying to make a living. Being illegal is wrong; but at the end of the day there's inherent goodness in a man trying to make an honest living.

When I lived in Texas years ago; there was a convenience store near my apartment I'd stop at when I came in off the road. If it was Friday night, there was one aisle you never went up or down. It was the one leading to the store's Western Union window. It was always jammed with Mexicans taking their paychecks, getting them cashed for a fee, and then sending the bulk of those paychecks back to their families in Mexico, or Honduras or Guatemala or wherever. The store had 3 employees as I remember; the Western Union part probably had 7-8 women working back there as fast as they could.

That's why they're all trying to get here-compared to the hellholes they came from; even the worst cities in America are a vision of heaven, a land of milk and honey. We may be disillusioned by the American dream at times; but to these illegals wanting to work that dream is alive and real.

 

[Meemur]

Alfaman, I respect those who want to work, too, but they need to come here legally, in my opinion. There are a number of legit ways to do that right now.

 

[Elza]

Even some of the liberals don't want to take a chance on bringing them into their homes.

Libtards aren't much for doing anything themselves. They want someone else to do it.

 

[Meemur]

Libtards aren't much for doing anything themselves. They want someone else to do it.

I know middle-of-the-roaders who've taken in exchange students. They used to view taking in the invaders as an extension of that until someone with sense explained that the invaders are unvetted. That has opened some eyes.

 

[Griz3752]

It is a South Florida thing also.

Always a dozen or so sitting on the curb under the trees in the parking lot waiting to be offered work.

At least some of them are making an effort to earn some money.

Yeah
Or to case your space.

 

[AlfaMan]

Alfaman, I respect those who want to work, too, but they need to come here legally, in my opinion. There are a number of legit ways to do that right now.

I agree. They all need to come in legally. That's why I want to see pres Trump back in the WH again. He had immigration policies that worked, that weeded out the bad seeds, etc.

 

[thompson]

Let's not fall into the commie "change the language" trap, ok?
They are illegal aliens, not migrants.

Thank you! It's my biggest pet peeve.

Illegal Aliens

illegal
not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit


aliens
a
: belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing : strange
an alien environment

b
: relating, belonging, or owing allegiance to another country or government : foreign

 

[thompson]

She had seven languages spoken in her class.

Babel

 

[summerthyme]

Not all are illegal, but I don't see why I need to fund their English lessons.

In the not so distance past, churches taught them English for free and then followed up classes with a light lunch or dinner, often with donated food.

It was a different world back then. The American Dream was still attainable by working hard and saving.

Also, even adults who came here WANTED to assimilate. Free English classes were a blessing... now, they're too much work, and they demand we change all our labels and signage instead. Or we're racist.

My daughter had to jump into the deep end of the pool when a student apparently lied about their command of the language (brand new student) and also about his ability to swim! She was 8 months pregnant at the time.

She once worked in a school where 26!! different languages were spoken. It seemed half the kids had a personal translator or "aide"... all paid for by the taxpayers, of course.

Summerthyme

 

[Meemur]

Babel

Back in my wicked past, I helped out with some of those free English classes because the tutors got lunch, too, and I was a broke college student. If the teacher insists that only English will be spoken in the classroom and provides vocabulary practice with pictures, it's amazing how fast the students pick up the basics. Honestly, Asian females were generally not a problem, especially if they liked fashion and that was incorporated into their vocabulary lessons.

I can't image trying to do that with a handful of mouthy, entitled American blacks in the mix. I think I would quit then and there. If I were a cool black male, I might get through to them by incorporating music and dance into the lessons, but I doubt they would accept that from a white teacher.

I never want to find out! I've tried to arrange things so I'm never that broke again.

 

[MinnesotaSmith]

30 years ago we called them day workers. As a business with no employees we used them from time to time.
Maybe 50 would be at the Home Depot and would mob you for the work. 50 bucks a person got a whole lot of heavy work done like moving 1000's lbs of weld rod cleaning up after the Whittier quake. Never even thought we were doing anything questionable.

You know now that you were hurting the U.S., I hope.

 

[Terrwyn]

You know now that you were hurting the U.S., I hope.

I doubt seriously we hurt anyone and if Americans wernt so damn lazy we would have gladly hired them. But wasn't going to pay some temp agency an outrageous fee to rip off questionable employees. White guys were temp because a lot of them were in and out of jail. The day laborers were just looking to support their families.
Plus the whites I came across were kitties. I could heave around more 50 lb containers of rod than they could without folding.

 

[MinnesotaSmith]

I doubt seriously we hurt anyone and if Americans wernt so damn lazy we would have gladly hired them.

You gave ammo, food, and fuel (via paying them to work) to invading enemy troops.
That qualifies as "hurting the country" in any honest person's book.

 

[Intestinal Fortitude]

Not all are illegal, but I don't see why I need to fund their English lessons.

In the not so distance past, churches taught them English for free and then followed up classes with a light lunch or dinner, often with donated food.

It was a different world back then. The American Dream was still attainable by working hard and saving.

churches are complicit in aiding illegals

 

[wobble]

You should hear Dallas.

Atlanta is a real hoot, too.

 

[Terrwyn]

Hard to believe you all are getting your panties in a wad over me hiring day laborers 36 years ago to clean up a warehouse that had probably 20,000 lbs of wire and electrodes from collapsed pallet racks that we learned too late were not substantial enough or anchored well enough to withstand an earthquake.
I sure wish you all had been around to give me advice. My DH was a great salesman, horsetrader and a metallurgical genius but useless in a crisis.

 

[Bad Hand]

The other day on a welding forum a new hired young welder was complaining about being written up for taking an unscheduled break. They didn't care about his mental health, he is a product of the public school system. This is why the illegals are being hired.

 

[mikeabn]

Hard to believe you all are getting your panties in a wad over me hiring day laborers 36 years ago to clean up a warehouse that had probably 20,000 lbs of wire and electrodes from collapsed pallet racks that we learned too late were not substantial enough or anchored well enough to withstand an earthquake.
I sure wish you all had been around to give me advice. My DH was a great salesman, horsetrader and a metallurgical genius but useless in a crisis.

And for the critics- if the quoted price, using only legal labor, was say 20% higher- would you pay it?

 

[Terrwyn]

And for the critics- if the quoted price, using only legal labor, was say 20% higher- would you pay it?

Not for that mess. It took less than a half hour to go up the street to HD and pick up 6 burly guys.

 

[33dInd]

So
In a dollar general today
Young lady working the register.
White. Sandy blond hair. Green eyes. And foreign accent.
Me being me. I said
You don’t have an okie accent. Where ya from

She replies cordially.
Im from Columbia. I am Spanish not mestizo

Coulda rolled me with a feather. I would assumed Eastern European

But equally her comment. She was Spanish not mestizo