Thank you for putting this on line as I did not know the way to do it. Laurie Garrett is recognized as an expert in plagues of all kinds. I have had both her books since they were published. I found many of her comments very informative in the interview. This virus may indeed mark the expected die off. I expected that by 2020 an epidemic of this sort combined with the other factors in the limits of growth would combine to produce a die off.