Solar Kill shot CME last night would have taken grid out if Earth facing

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
I thought this should go on the main rather than the Earth Changes thread. Real BPEarthWatch posted a video that the sun exploded with a massive CME last night that would have taken out the power grid had it been Earth-facing. He’s telling us to keep vigilant over the next two weeks as this part of the sun makes its way around to us.

Watch this video, it’s pretty crazy. Run time 4:49

 

Nich1

Veteran Member
Thanks for posting, Jubilee. I have always liked that guy but had forgotten his channel name on youtube! I'll have to write it down as he has some good stuff. Now, whether it's true or not, I couldn't say. :-)
 

artichoke

Greetings from near tropical NYC!
I've not watched this guy's stuff. Hard to know what he means with his concerns for how the inner planets will fare from these bursts. Will their power grids go down? They don't have power grids, so far they aren't known to have multi-celled life.

What does he mean when he says the flares are a portion of the sun's surface? What does he think is the sun's surface?

Somehow I'm not worried about the whole power grid going down. If it did trip some breakers, those could be reset and we'd be back up. Has he done calculations to show that a voltage spike from such an eruption could bring down any portion of the grid or even any single transmission line?
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
A Carrington Event today would be an ELE. Back then it set telegraph wires on fire. The amount of electronics that are unprotected would cause unbelievable devastation. Remember. Your water gets pumped out of the ground with electricity and is probably purified with electrical power. Death in just a few weeks for anyone who doesn't live in "the sticks."

I believe SuspiciousObserver commented on this also.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
I thought this should go on the main rather than the Earth Changes thread. Real BPEarthWatch posted a video that the sun exploded with a massive CME last night that would have taken out the power grid had it been Earth-facing. He’s telling us to keep vigilant over the next two weeks as this part of the sun makes its way around to us.

Watch this video, it’s pretty crazy. Run time 4:49

Thanks for posting this, Jubilee. This coulda been a nasty one.
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
A Carrington Event today would be an ELE. Back then it set telegraph wires on fire. The amount of electronics that are unprotected would cause unbelievable devastation. Remember. Your water gets pumped out of the ground with electricity and is probably purified with electrical power. Death in just a few weeks for anyone who doesn't live in "the sticks."

I believe SuspiciousObserver commented on this also.


Death for a lot of people "in the sticks" as well.

Very precious few can sustain with nothing for years and fight off "zombies"

No more forest fire supression, and years of mismanagement would end in mega firestorms, no snow removal, roads would be impassable in just a short few years due to landslides and washouts. No one will be clearing culverts, the roads will washout in spots within 2 years, and in 5 be fully impassable by auto.

The list goes on and on and on and on... until that one thing pops up tbat "gets you"
 

artichoke

Greetings from near tropical NYC!
A Carrington Event today would be an ELE. Back then it set telegraph wires on fire. The amount of electronics that are unprotected would cause unbelievable devastation. Remember. Your water gets pumped out of the ground with electricity and is probably purified with electrical power. Death in just a few weeks for anyone who doesn't live in "the sticks."

I believe SuspiciousObserver commented on this also.
The Carrington Event shows the level of voltage spike that's possible from one of these events. Such a voltage spike can shock a telegraph operator and disable telegraph equipment that's meant to operate at probably less than 12 volts. Here's discussion of DIY telegraph equipment and it's all under 12 volts. Re: Telegraph Voltage (Electricity 101)

That does not mean it would damage a system operating at 512,000 volts, a typical voltage for long distance electrical transmission. 128,000 volts is more local, and down as low as 4000 volts for local distribution such as the wires passing by your house. Primary Distribution Voltage Levels

It would take a lot more to bring down the power grid than it took to shock telegraph operators.
 

Hognutz

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The Carrington Event shows the level of voltage spike that's possible from one of these events. Such a voltage spike can shock a telegraph operator and disable telegraph equipment that's meant to operate at probably less than 12 volts. Here's discussion of DIY telegraph equipment and it's all under 12 volts. Re: Telegraph Voltage (Electricity 101)

That does not mean it would damage a system operating at 512,000 volts, a typical voltage for long distance electrical transmission. 128,000 volts is more local, and down as low as 4000 volts for local distribution such as the wires passing by your house. Primary Distribution Voltage Levels

It would take a lot more to bring down the power grid than it took to shock telegraph operators.
It’s more than electric lines. Computers that do everything such as switching, transportation etc. would fry. Just look at the gas line that went down a month or so ago and how that just about crippled the Southern US.....
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
 

Fairwillows

Where I am supposed to be.
A Carrington Event today would be an ELE. Back then it set telegraph wires on fire. The amount of electronics that are unprotected would cause unbelievable devastation. Remember. Your water gets pumped out of the ground with electricity and is probably purified with electrical power. Death in just a few weeks for anyone who doesn't live in "the sticks."

I believe SuspiciousObserver commented on this also.
I watch BP and Suspicious Observers(SO). SO I watch every morning. He said that the pair of spots that produced that xflare last week will turn into view and remain earth facing for 14 days....fingers crossed, prayers said that pair of spots behave!!!
 

Pat Hogen

Contributing Member
My partner and I, at that time, October 1981, were rafted up beside a fishing boat in a natural cove off an island facing south west to west and in the early evening while talking and having a beer we saw the same as what has been recorded as follows, and it was unbelievably remarkable -
" 1909 - Myself and two mates looking out of the tent saw a great reflection in the southern heavens at about 7 o'clock p.m., and in about half an hour, a scene of almost unspeakable beauty presented itself, lights of every imaginable color were issuing from the southern heavens, one color fading away only to give place to another if possible more beautiful than the last, the streams mounting to the zenith, but always becoming a rich purple when reaching there, and always curling round, leaving a clear strip of sky, which may be described as four fingers held at arm's length. The northern side from the zenith was also illuminated with beautiful colors, always curling round at the zenith, but were considered to be merely a reproduction of the southern display, as all colors south and north always corresponded. It was a sight never to be forgotten, and was considered at the time to be the greatest aurora recorded...
The rationalist and pantheist saw nature in her most exquisite robes, recognizing, the divine immanence, immutable law, cause, and effect. The superstitious and the fanatical had dire forebodings, and thought it a foreshadowing of Armageddon and final dissolution.[27]" - source Wikipedia
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Care to evaluate the effects on the generators and load balancing equipment for a 21st Century Carrington event??? PARTICULARLY when the generators go out of phase??

PLUS a flare like the one that missed us would have effects over the whole world because there would be tail end effect for several hours,
 

The Snack Artist

Membership Revoked
Care to evaluate the effects on the generators and load balancing equipment for a 21st Century Carrington event??? PARTICULARLY when the generators go out of phase??

PLUS a flare like the one that missed us would have effects over the whole world because there would be tail end effect for several hours,
You need me to look at it?
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
The Carrington Event shows the level of voltage spike that's possible from one of these events. Such a voltage spike can shock a telegraph operator and disable telegraph equipment that's meant to operate at probably less than 12 volts. Here's discussion of DIY telegraph equipment and it's all under 12 volts. Re: Telegraph Voltage (Electricity 101)

That does not mean it would damage a system operating at 512,000 volts, a typical voltage for long distance electrical transmission. 128,000 volts is more local, and down as low as 4000 volts for local distribution such as the wires passing by your house. Primary Distribution Voltage Levels

It would take a lot more to bring down the power grid than it took to shock telegraph operators.

It was not that it "Shocked" operators, it had so much current that it set the wires and steel wire fences on fire. These were thick, heavy wires, meant for DC power, not the thin AC high voltage wires that we have today. Modern semi conductors are extremely sensitive to spikes in voltage and a Carrington type event would smoke the entire grid and most things connected to it.

The longer the wire, the more current it produces when the wave passes over it. When any conductor passes through a magnetic field, it makes an electrical current, this is how generators work. Miles long, or longer wires will gain so much current that they will smoke anything thy are hooked to. Don't forget, transformers work both ways. A high voltage spike on the low voltage side makes a HUGE high voltage spike on the other side. This is why your 1000 watt toy generator can kill a lineman if you back feed the grid with it.

Even simple LED (Light emitting diodes) must be wired in series to a high value resistor before connecting to a little battery or they will let out the magic smoke. Once the magic smoke gets out, they never work again. Same for most things computer, those pesky things that currently (Pardon the pun) run the entire world. I play with semi conductors as a hobby (Ardruino programming, CNC machine building, experimental circuits etc..) and have let the smoke out of a bunch of things just by supplying a little to much voltage.
 

Fairwillows

Where I am supposed to be.
^^^^^^ Were you aware that an event like that could short circuit your brain? Causing temporary or permanent amnesia? I think Suspicious Observer was the one that stated that info. Perhaps that's why previous civilizations had to "start over"? Perhaps they couldn't remember anything? It would/could short circuit pacemakers and internally implanted devices in the body? Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
A massive CME would at least be an event that did not just hit one country, it would be the whole world. Likely one of best of possible SHTF events as far as being fair to earth's population.
How long a period does the damage occur? If a country is on the dark side when it hits, can it dodge the worst of it?
 
^^^^^^ Were you aware that an event like that could short circuit your brain? Causing temporary or permanent amnesia? I think Suspicious Observer was the one that stated that info. Perhaps that's why previous civilizations had to "start over"? Perhaps they couldn't remember anything? It would/could short circuit pacemakers and internally implanted devices in the body? Correct me if I'm wrong.
I did read that years ago about our brain being blank and we have to start over again.
 
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