INSANITY Is a MN hospital trying to murder a man? - DEAD, post 52

hunybee

Veteran Member
i started a thread about this a couple of days ago. the links you have are good. thank you!

 

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB

A Minnesota COVID-19 patient was flown to a medical facility in Texas over the weekend after a judge ordered doctors to keep him on a ventilator, the Star Tribune reported.

Scott Quiner, 55, was placed on a ventilator at Mercy Hospital in Coon Rapids on Nov. 6 while experiencing critically low oxygen levels and has shown few signs of improvement in the ensuing weeks, according to the Star-Tribune.

The hospital informed Quiner's family that it would disconnect the ventilator on Thursday, prompting his wife, Anne, to seek an emergency order from the Anoka County court to stop the disconnection and move her husband to a new facility.
Judge Jennifer Stanfield ruled in favor of the Quiner family's request to keep him on a ventilator.

Scott Quiner's attorney, Marjorie Holsten, told the Star Tribune her client was flown over the weekend from Mercy Hospital in Coon Rapids to a medical facility in Texas, which she did not name.

"Scott is now in a hospital in Texas getting critical care," Holsten said. "The doctor said Scott was the most undernourished patient he has ever seen. The last update I got was yesterday afternoon after some tests had been run; all organs are working except his lungs."

Quiner was unvaccinated against the coronavirus prior to being hospitalized.
An online hearing in Quiner's case is scheduled for Feb. 11, the Star-Tribune noted.
 

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Going to say that wife and he might have a really good malpractice suit to file when all is said and done. Hopefully the new hospital can help get him back on his feet.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Going to say that wife and he might have a really good malpractice suit to file when all is said and done. Hopefully the new hospital can help get him back on his feet.
Unfortunately, it is extremely unlikely he'll ever leave the hospital. I've seen what sort of damage pneumonia can do to lungs... if they are scarred badly enough, he will never be able to breathe on his own without a vent. He's no longer a COVID patient... he's probably been virus free for 2 months by now.

And as far as malpractice, if they followed "acceptable standard practice" (which does not include ivermectin), they're pretty well safe...

Summerthyme
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
OK, and assuming this is all true (and in this case, I believe it is) WHT NOT GIVE HIM IVERMECTIN? Get the family to sign a release, and give him the damned stuff! No, it's not likely to work, not at this point... but if it will give the family some comfort and closure, WHY not?

Then, when his condition is unchanged in a week, there will be no question that recovery is not possible.

Instead,, this family will forever be convinced that he would have lived if he have had only been given ivermectin.

I don't understand why we've lost all human compassion and common sense. Patients USED TO BE the highest priotity... now it's just "following the rules".

Summerthyme
Isn’t that why Pres trump introduced Right to Try?
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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We will never know but if he was allowed those meds when he first became sick it might have not progressed to an almost hopeless situation.
Yep. But it's important for people to know that ivermectin won't save everyone... for whatever reason, some people (or cases) just don't seem to respond to it. If you are self treating at home, it's vital to know what to watch for, and don't wait too long to get help.

Summerthyme
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Yep. But it's important for people to know that ivermectin won't save everyone... for whatever reason, some people (or cases) just don't seem to respond to it. If you are self treating at home, it's vital to know what to watch for, and don't wait too long to get help.

Summerthyme


And that is why the FLCCC protocols among others use several different medications and supplements so if within a few days the IVM isn’t doing the job the other meds are added depending on the symptoms and length of time of the illness.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Wife who fought Mercy Hospital over ventilator says COVID-positive husband showing improvement in Texas


The Buffalo, Minn., COVID-19 patient, whose wife went to court to prevent an Allina Health hospital from taking him off a ventilator, is showing signs of improvement in a Houston hospital, his wife says. Scott Quiner, tested positive in late October. His wife has said he was unvaccinated against the viral respiratory disease.

Anne Quiner has been taking her frustrations with her husband’s care at Mercy Hospital in Coon Rapids to “the court of public opinion,” her lawyer Marjorie Holsten said to the conservative talk show host Glenn Beck on Thursday.

Anne and Scott Quiner (Courtesy of the Quiner family)

Anne and Scott Quiner (Courtesy of the Quiner family)


“What we are showing the world is that Scott was near death because of the protocols used in that hospital,” Holsten said. “But now he is recovering. He is getting better. We’re not planning a funeral. We’re planning for his release at some point.”

Anne Quiner said there has been progress, but it has been slow. Her 55-year-old husband’s brain function appears normal, but his lungs have been damaged and scarred. He remains on a ventilator.


“He still is very critically ill, but they are saying they’re going to try everything they can do to save his life,” Anne Quiner said on the conservative Stew Peters podcast on Red Voice Media. “Scott is fighting. They said he’s absolutely fighting.”

Allina Health has declined a request for comment. Previously, the Minneapolis health care system, which has 12 hospitals and 90 clinics in Minnesota and Wisconsin, said it has every confidence in its medical professionals, that it cannot talk about Quiner’s specific case and that it continues “to wish the patient and family well.”

As time went on, Quiner’s oxygen levels were not improving. He was put on a ventilator and transferred to the intensive care unit at Mercy Hospital on Nov. 6. He lost 30 pounds during his stay, Anne Quiner said, going from 210 pounds to 180.

According to court documents, Mercy intended to turn off her husband’s ventilator at noon Jan. 13. Anne Quiner, who believed the hospital was not exploring other treatment options, was granted a restraining order by an Anoka County District Court judge and had him transferred to a Houston hospital. She has asked that the hospital not be named.

Mercy’s response at the time, via the Fredrikson & Byron Law firm, was that Anne Quiner’s “position is not supported by medical science or Minnesota law, and as a result, Mercy will ask the court to issue an order that Mercy has the authority to discontinue Mr. Quiner’s ventilator and proceed with his medical care plan.”

Anne Quiner spoke of her frustrations with Mercy Hospital’s staff, telling how she and a pastor were removed from the hospital chapel by security as they prayed for her husband. She said she felt the staff had abandoned her husband.

“They were telling my family that I was being very difficult, and they were pushing them to get me to either put him in comfort care or sign the DNR (do not resuscitate),” she said on Beck’s show.

Her experience in Texas has been very different, she told Peters, who has dismissed the safety of coronavirus vaccines and given a platform to pandemic conspiracy theories.

“I feel like he went from the worst doctors to the absolute best doctors in the entire United States,” she said.

Hospitals in Minnesota, like others around the United States, have been overwhelmed by a combination of patients with COVID-19 — mostly unvaccinated — and those with other conditions. In the Twin Cities, about 1 percent of hospital intensive care beds were available late this week.

 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wife who fought Mercy Hospital over ventilator says COVID-positive husband showing improvement in Texas


The Buffalo, Minn., COVID-19 patient, whose wife went to court to prevent an Allina Health hospital from taking him off a ventilator, is showing signs of improvement in a Houston hospital, his wife says. Scott Quiner, tested positive in late October. His wife has said he was unvaccinated against the viral respiratory disease.

Anne Quiner has been taking her frustrations with her husband’s care at Mercy Hospital in Coon Rapids to “the court of public opinion,” her lawyer Marjorie Holsten said to the conservative talk show host Glenn Beck on Thursday.

Anne and Scott Quiner (Courtesy of the Quiner family)

Anne and Scott Quiner (Courtesy of the Quiner family)


“What we are showing the world is that Scott was near death because of the protocols used in that hospital,” Holsten said. “But now he is recovering. He is getting better. We’re not planning a funeral. We’re planning for his release at some point.”

Anne Quiner said there has been progress, but it has been slow. Her 55-year-old husband’s brain function appears normal, but his lungs have been damaged and scarred. He remains on a ventilator.


“He still is very critically ill, but they are saying they’re going to try everything they can do to save his life,” Anne Quiner said on the conservative Stew Peters podcast on Red Voice Media. “Scott is fighting. They said he’s absolutely fighting.”

Allina Health has declined a request for comment. Previously, the Minneapolis health care system, which has 12 hospitals and 90 clinics in Minnesota and Wisconsin, said it has every confidence in its medical professionals, that it cannot talk about Quiner’s specific case and that it continues “to wish the patient and family well.”

As time went on, Quiner’s oxygen levels were not improving. He was put on a ventilator and transferred to the intensive care unit at Mercy Hospital on Nov. 6. He lost 30 pounds during his stay, Anne Quiner said, going from 210 pounds to 180.

According to court documents, Mercy intended to turn off her husband’s ventilator at noon Jan. 13. Anne Quiner, who believed the hospital was not exploring other treatment options, was granted a restraining order by an Anoka County District Court judge and had him transferred to a Houston hospital. She has asked that the hospital not be named.

Mercy’s response at the time, via the Fredrikson & Byron Law firm, was that Anne Quiner’s “position is not supported by medical science or Minnesota law, and as a result, Mercy will ask the court to issue an order that Mercy has the authority to discontinue Mr. Quiner’s ventilator and proceed with his medical care plan.”

Anne Quiner spoke of her frustrations with Mercy Hospital’s staff, telling how she and a pastor were removed from the hospital chapel by security as they prayed for her husband. She said she felt the staff had abandoned her husband.

“They were telling my family that I was being very difficult, and they were pushing them to get me to either put him in comfort care or sign the DNR (do not resuscitate),” she said on Beck’s show.

Her experience in Texas has been very different, she told Peters, who has dismissed the safety of coronavirus vaccines and given a platform to pandemic conspiracy theories.

“I feel like he went from the worst doctors to the absolute best doctors in the entire United States,” she said.

Hospitals in Minnesota, like others around the United States, have been overwhelmed by a combination of patients with COVID-19 — mostly unvaccinated — and those with other conditions. In the Twin Cities, about 1 percent of hospital intensive care beds were available late this week.



Ah, the "Protocols".


BTW, anyone familiar with Temple Grandin's work?
 

ioujc

MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
What?? He is dead? On post 52????

There is no post 52!!

What is going on???
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
If he had all options open to him and his care team he might have survived. But it doesn’t fit the approved narrative and we will never know. More than ever we have to be proactive caring and treating ourselves because the system sure as hell is against you even if your doctors and nurses want to think outside of the box. They can’t, as corporate will blackball them and see to it they lose their licenses.
 

ioujc

MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
Could someone confirm this guy's status???

It says post 52 says he's dead>>>>>BUT there IS NO POST 52!!
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
I was listening to a radio interview this week out of MN. The lady said her covid positive elderly mom was in the hospital in MN (I wonder if it was the same one?) and they would not allow the family to visit her. She was deteriorating and they coerced the family to turn off the vent by telling them they would allow them to visit the mom, but only if they gave the hospital authorization to turn off the vent. That was the only way they would allow her to come in and say goodbye.
 

Groucho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When he first came down with covid, did he take ivm along with following the protocols in FLCCC? Was he taking IVM and vitamins as a prophylaxis? If not, why not?

You can easily buy ivm from ADC or Insulin Hub. All the pills you want. No excuses.

IMHO, too many people are dying because they don't take control. Too many people trust the government. Too many people trust the "experts."

I'm sorry he passed on. I really am. Can we get the rest of the story?
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
When he first came down with covid, did he take ivm along with following the protocols in FLCCC? Was he taking IVM and vitamins as a prophylaxis? If not, why not?

You can easily buy ivm from ADC or Insulin Hub. All the pills you want. No excuses.

IMHO, too many people are dying because they don't take control. Too many people trust the government. Too many people trust the "experts."

I'm sorry he passed on. I really am. Can we get the rest of the story?


groucho, YOU know this, and i know this and most everyone on this board know this about adc, but most of the rest of the country is not this board. not everyone knows how to get these things if they will not be prescribed or given by the pharmacists if prescribed. there is no ivermectin to be found in the farm stores. not everyone knows about the flccc protocols. i'm not saying this in an angry way at all. i know that the family was trying to get him those things but were running into a lot of obstacles.

his family were desperately trying to do everything possible, and they are saying that they were actively being thwarted by the medical people that were at that hospital. they are saying that the hospital were denying him food and nutrient and they would not allow other doctors to treat him or to be released to a different hospital. the links in this thread have a lot of info about it. there are more interviews and information on the stew peters show.

another woman was interviewed with stew peters, and her husband was at that same hospital at the same time as scot.

what she said was infuriating. they withheld food and water. they would not let her see him. he interview is awful.

he did not make it.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
what she said was infuriating. they withheld food and water. they would not let her see him. he interview is awful.

he did not make it.
Is the above info pertaining to the original patient in the OP or was this a second patient?
 

Groucho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
groucho, YOU know this, and i know this and most everyone on this board know this about adc, but most of the rest of the country is not this board. not everyone knows how to get these things if they will not be prescribed or given by the pharmacists if prescribed. there is no ivermectin to be found in the farm stores. not everyone knows about the flccc protocols. i'm not saying this in an angry way at all. i know that the family was trying to get him those things but were running into a lot of obstacles.

his family were desperately trying to do everything possible, and they are saying that they were actively being thwarted by the medical people that were at that hospital. they are saying that the hospital were denying him food and nutrient and they would not allow other doctors to treat him or to be released to a different hospital. the links in this thread have a lot of info about it. there are more interviews and information on the stew peters show.

another woman was interviewed with stew peters, and her husband was at that same hospital at the same time as scot.

what she said was infuriating. they withheld food and water. they would not let her see him. he interview is awful.

he did not make it.

Love ya like a sister, hunybee. I get wildly frustrated that people don't do any research. I found out about various curatives before they were ever mentioned here. That and I don't know the story before they were diagnosed with covid and what if anything they did to help themselves. This kind of information is necessary for all of us.
I've done a crap ton of research back when this whole thing broke in March of 2020. I had to teach myself the math (it's simple, but I'm terrible at math) to see the per capita numbers of people getting the disease and those dying. I checked other countries and found that they were doing wildly better and researched why and how.

Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin popped up and I chased them down for sources. I'm no genius. I probably would be pushing it to say my I.Q. is average, but I found things and ordered the drugs and started taking them along with my wife.

The best way to get through is to understand that you can't trust government, corporate America, and big pharma.

My major complaint is that there is no information. The stories generally go, "X" got covid, the hospital did such and such and either killed them or darned near killed them. We MUST know what, if any curatives and prophylaxes they were taking prior to infection. What did they start taking once they were diagnosed with the disease.

Saying, "He/she got the disease and such and such happened at the hospital" does us no good. We need information.

I'm not arguing with you in any way. I just get frustrated that people don't give clear info so the rest of us can work things out.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I just get frustrated that people don't give clear info so the rest of us can work things out.

This has been an ongoing problem throughout much of the pandemic. Right now, I get frustrated with hearing that people died, but I don't know their vax status, type of vax, and co-morbidities (if any), and most of the time, it's highly inappropriate to ask.

I know that while it's probably impossible to keep from catching it, at least focus daily on prevention, with hand washing, proper diet, exercise, vitamins, and so on. A strong immune system may mean the difference between getting "the sniffles" vs. fighting off a full-blown case in the hospital.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
Nothing directly related to Covid.

But she did come up with a set of "Protocols" and processes to better process the Herd into the Abattoir...
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Yeah, she had the animals on a circular entrance to the killing area.... So they couldn't see or hear too much and freak out.​
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
Love ya like a sister, hunybee. I get wildly frustrated that people don't do any research. I found out about various curatives before they were ever mentioned here. That and I don't know the story before they were diagnosed with covid and what if anything they did to help themselves. This kind of information is necessary for all of us.
I've done a crap ton of research back when this whole thing broke in March of 2020. I had to teach myself the math (it's simple, but I'm terrible at math) to see the per capita numbers of people getting the disease and those dying. I checked other countries and found that they were doing wildly better and researched why and how.

Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin popped up and I chased them down for sources. I'm no genius. I probably would be pushing it to say my I.Q. is average, but I found things and ordered the drugs and started taking them along with my wife.

The best way to get through is to understand that you can't trust government, corporate America, and big pharma.

My major complaint is that there is no information. The stories generally go, "X" got covid, the hospital did such and such and either killed them or darned near killed them. We MUST know what, if any curatives and prophylaxes they were taking prior to infection. What did they start taking once they were diagnosed with the disease.

Saying, "He/she got the disease and such and such happened at the hospital" does us no good. We need information.

I'm not arguing with you in any way. I just get frustrated that people don't give clear info so the rest of us can work things out.


no disagreements with anything you said.
 

subnet

Boot
No, I'm saying that people want medicine but then do nothing but denigrate those who provide it.

Very Karen-esque. with about as much rational though applied.
Ahh there is the arrogance in healthcare i have pointed out before..the mighty infallible industry of "practice".
Do as we say, we know what's best for you and if we kill you, its not our fault and don't you ever point out our failures or bad mouth us, we are heros.
As bad as fire fighters rolling in, cutting a hole in your roof, filling the house with water ruining everything and claiming they saved it.

To even think threads like this, about a hospital that obviously killed someone due to hubris/greed, is the reason people are leaving Healthcare...is a whole new level of stinking fail.
Take your whooping like a man and fix your industry asshat
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
groucho, YOU know this, and i know this and most everyone on this board know this about adc, but most of the rest of the country is not this board. not everyone knows how to get these things if they will not be prescribed or given by the pharmacists if prescribed. there is no ivermectin to be found in the farm stores. not everyone knows about the flccc protocols...

....they withheld food and water. they would not let her see him. he interview is awful.

he did not make it.

I have given people Ivermectin, doxycycline, etc, with detailed instructions on what to do. They have not taken the meds or read the instructions when they got covid. It’s frustrating. My husbands niece got pretty darn sick, I finally asked her, did you take the ivermectin? No! Her O2 sats were at 90. I said double dose right now! She did and her reading went up to 94. I guess if people don’t directly get a script written from a doctor, they are scared to take anything that can help him. His niece recovered but she was sick for like 3 weeks. I don’t know what would have happened if I didn’t ask her the question, I was assuming she started the protocol as soon as she had symptoms because that’s what the directions clearly said.

To the second part of your post, they are just flat out murdering people and how many families just went along with the medical advice to not treat the patient and pull the plug? Someday God will sort it out, but I have to think so many covid diagnosed patients were killed on purpose. It’s frightening how easy it was to pull this off.
 
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