GUNS/RLTD "Impossible To Regulate" - Ghost Gunner Introduces New "0% Receiver"

[Blacknarwhal]

That throws a bit of a hitch in the gun grabbers' getalong.

Fair use cited so on and so forth.

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"Impossible To Regulate" - Ghost Gunner Introduces New "0% Receiver"

Submitted by The Machine Gun Nest (TMGN).,

If you're familiar with 3D printed firearms or 80% receivers, a company that may sound very familiar to you is Defense Distributed. The Austin, Texas-based company was the first to distribute 3D files for their Liberator handgun, empowering anyone with a 3D printer to assemble a firearm privately in their home.




With the ATF's pending rule change (which can be read here), previously classified items as not firearms will become firearms, and ATF will start requiring firearms parts to be serialized and tracked like guns.

This means that under this rule change if you want to purchase a barrel for a rifle, you would have to undergo a background check like that barrel was a completed gun, even though it isn't.

The ATF, DOJ, the anti-gun politicians, and the lobby that supports them seem to think that this will stop people from manufacturing firearms for personal use inside their homes. This couldn't be further from the truth, even without Defense Distributed's newest product.

Enter the Ghost Gunner 3



The Ghost Gunner 3 is a 3 Axis CNC machine that can take a metal block and create a lower receiver in a relatively short period. You can then assemble that lower into a completed firearm without it being registered.

Since the only part needed to create these homemade firearms is a block of metal (pictured below), it would be entirely impossible for the ATF to regulate these without an act of congress.





While the anti-gun politicians pat themselves on the back for "stopping the proliferation of privately made firearms," Defense Distributed was hard at work crafting a tool that empowers citizens to expand their 2nd amendment rights and makes regulation irrelevant.

I was ecstatic to see the Ghost Gunner 3 here at SHOT Show in Las Vegas this week, and I'm excited to see what Defense Distributed does next.

 

[Lone_Hawk]

We run a GG3 at the shop. It is a lot better than the GG2. But expect to ruin a couple blanks before you get it figured out.

 

[ElevenO]

To quote a line from the original, 1993, "Jurassic Park" movie, "Life finds a way".

The government can regulate whatever they want and as much as they want but, just like prohibition and the drug war both proved, people will still find a way to produce what they want whenever they want. It just may take a little bit more effort and, possibly, a little bit more money to do it. However, at that point, if people have to sneak around in order to do what they want then they're not gonna worry about any laws anymore. It will be silencers and full auto (and whatever else) for them from there on out. If the gov is determined to make them a criminal then they might as well be the best one they can possibly be. It will be a complete FIDO situation from that point forward----F**k It and Drive On. Life does----and will---find a way.

 

[The Mountain]

So if you still have to go through a background check for the barrel, and presumably the upper receiver, and maybe the buffer/shoulder stock assembly, what good does it do you to be able to build your own lowers?

And the whole thing with rolling your own is the relatively low cost. A 3-axis CNC machine cannot be all that cheap. Kind of defeats the purpose.

 

[Dozdoats]

Right now, you don't. So stock up...

 

[223shootersc]

Hopefully, it will never happen on the parts registry, but a great piece of machinery and engineering.

 

[Shooter]

I want one to machine a reciever from a solid block, not a 80%

 

[The Mountain]

I want one to machine a reciever from a solid block, not a 80%

That's what this is. You feed it a blank billet, and a little while later you get a finished lower.

 

[Trouble]

If you don't have what you need by now, it's too late. There was ample warning.

 

[Shotgun Willy]

That's cool and all, but I think the ability to "print" the bolt for a Sten Gun would be useful, too.

After further contemplation I think the M3 grease gun is simpler to construct, preferably in 22LR

 

[Groucho]

Hails bells, I figure for the cost of a row boat and a big magnet, I can pull up all these guns y'all have been losing overboard.

 

[usmcpackrat]

You can't stop the signal.....

 

[Satanta]

Well, for those of us who do not have 3-D Printers [[It's on my Want List for a line of Jewelry and some other ideas I have]] Learning how to make black powder from basic hardware store items and understand how to make Zip gubs and things that go 'splodey is also an option-then you scavenge from the corpses.

Every Post Apocalypse video game teaches you that.

 

[Thinwater]

That's what this is. You feed it a blank billet, and a little while later you get a finished lower.

Sort of.

You still have to buy a completion kit consisting of the buffer tower and some other stuff that costs as much as an entire 80% lower now.

I already have a way around the ban in a similar fasion but using a 3d printer "Receiver" middle section, like his machine makes, a nd a "Completion kit" consisting of the buffer tower and mag well in aluminum. I made all of these parts myself many months ago when they anounced that they were going to ban 80% receivers so we would have a way around it from day 1.

 

[Thinwater]

These parts, a $200 3d printer and a screw driver are all you need to make my kit into a AR15 lower. NO machining required. It will be easier than they are all, all thanks to poopy pants Biden.

 

[Thinwater]

I can by pass all of that and just print the entire lower in carbon fiber reenforced Nylon.

F'em, every one of the rat bastages.

 

[Millwright]

These parts, a $200 3d printer and a screw driver are all you need to make my kit into a AR15 lower. NO machining required. It will be easier than they are all, all thanks to poopy pants Biden.

 

[mecoastie]

So if you still have to go through a background check for the barrel, and presumably the upper receiver, and maybe the buffer/shoulder stock assembly, what good does it do you to be able to build your own lowers?

And the whole thing with rolling your own is the relatively low cost. A 3-axis CNC machine cannot be all that cheap. Kind of defeats the purpose.

At this point just grab a couple PSA kits and toss them in the closet.

 

[Thinwater]

If you don't have what you need by now, it's too late. There was ample warning.

Not quite yet. Many are available. MANY on hand at Tactical Machining.

AR15 80 Lower (tacticalmachining.com)

 

[Trouble]

Not quite yet. Many are available. MANY on hand at Tactical Machining.

AR15 80 Lower (tacticalmachining.com)

Not my point actually. The writing has been on the wall for decades. That's the point. This is an answer to a question no one asked.

 

[Lone_Hawk]

Or, now that I'm "retired," you can adopt my attitude. I don't give a damn what regulations or laws they have passed. I will not comply.

 

[usmcpackrat]

That's cool and all, but I think the ability to "print" the bolt for a Sten Gun would be useful, too.

After further contemplation I think the M3 grease gun is simpler to construct, preferably in 22LR

 

[usmcpackrat]

I can by pass all of that and just print the entire lower in carbon fiber reenforced Nylon.

F'em, every one of the rat bastages.

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Carbon reinforced nylon.........I like the material if I do say so myself........

 

[The Mountain]

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That thing looks more impractical each time I look at it.

Fun, but impractical.

 

[L.A.B.]

Or, now that I'm "retired," you can adopt my attitude. I don't give a damn what regulations or laws they have passed. I will not comply.

The neXt Quantum Leap in ‘firearms’ will be mindset. Not the willingness to engage an enemy within active line-of-sight combat range; but in the individuals understanding in why bearing arms are to respected in a society in the animated contest of staying free.

Freedom is not a finish line at the end of political objective. It is a constant state of responsibility, risk, challenge, and the arena for 24/7/365.25 PSYOP’s by those who would wish to continue corralling your fate to subservience, or total conquer.

Hiding firearms… Whether building an legal unregistered gun, or completing a 4473 form in an act of commerce for a gun purchase and registration. The gun is only a tool. Not a badge of honor, not a free pass to impervious, nor a commitment to moral or immoral deeds. It is just a tool to contend with others. Other’s who challenges might be the illegal termination of your life or your liberty.

‘Technology‘ can see through your walls.

It can see through your clothes.

It can set off caches of stored ammunition.

Ghost gun or not. Ferrous or non-ferrous. This is just dancing with the devil in his ballroom.

Your mindset based upon the philosophy of live and let live. No victim, no crime. That only freemen truly understand that commitment to life and liberty etched into the souls of good people who form interest of common bonds, to community, to nation-states.

What if one day, technology could read not just minds, but the general nature and intent of individuals. Would we etch serial numbers on them and expect some magical revision into the fold of decent?

The neXt step in firearms control will be serfs and freemen. But only if freemen tolerate it.

The neXt step of freemen with be the legal unbinding of those original freedoms and rights, subjugated by tiers of contracts with incorporated bureaucracies, and similar tentacles and venues.

As a 4473 firearms owner, a former owner of CA DOJ so-called assault weapons, long since 4473’ed legally out of state. It ain’t about the numbers stamped on a gun, or lack thereof. It’s about mindset and intent of the individual.

Just don’t dance the devils Waltz.

 

[Dobbin]

I rather like the display of "human initiative."

As in "It's human nature."

Like the "Streisand Effect." Streisand effect - Wikipedia

The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet. It is named after American singer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project’s photograph of her residence in Malibu, California, taken to document California coastal erosion, inadvertently drew greater attention to it in 2003.[1]

Streisand effect - Wikipedia

By attempting to put up a wall to limit human information, the suppression only ENCOURAGED transgression of that wall in attempts to gather the "forbidden fruit."

The same effect made the 1920s Prohibition Laws ineffectual. Owner tells a story of his lawyer grandfather (Assistant County Prosecutor for the State of Massachusetts) who in the 1920s had a man engaged to regularly add to the alcohol cabinet - and who delivered the goods in a "baby carriage." Compelled non-access to alcohol only increased consumption of alcohol, even among those whose job was to enforce the ban.

Assuming the "Ghost Gun" setup is allowed to continue unabated, gun parts will multiply AD INFINITUM until gun parts are so plentiful, humans will be offering them for free - thereby bypassing the intent of the law to limit quantity and regulate those that exist.

And it will be this way with ANY component part thus identified - and also for complete guns.

As is usual for this, the "unintended result" of rule making is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the motivation for the law hoped to accomplish originally.

This the problem when one lets "emote" get ahead of common sense in their rule-making.

Dobbin

 

[Thinwater]

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Carbon reinforced nylon.........I like the material if I do say so myself........

That model is best printed in nylon, it is flexible at the correct place for correct function. I have a 07FFL/SOT and can make such things. If I did test such a model I would likely say they work 100%. Normal PLA hypothetically work just as well for several mags before needing to be replaced from wear. At about $.08 each to print, they are almost free.

If anyone has a FFL/SOT here is the download link for this model. Yankee Boogle 3D Printable AR15 Full-Auto Mod (Swift Link) (odysee.com) If you don't have a FFL/SOT, do not print one as it is considered a felony by the BATFe. Link for educational purposes and free speech reasons only.