CORONA How many of you or your immediate family have the Rona RIGHT NOW? - CURRENTLY *** 186 ***

How many have it?

  • Myself (and/or)

    Votes: 31 5.6%
  • One other

    Votes: 40 7.2%
  • Two others

    Votes: 21 3.8%
  • Three others

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Four others

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Five others

    Votes: 5 0.9%
  • Six others

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Seven others

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Eight others

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nine others

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ten or more

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Zero- no one in my family has it at the moment

    Votes: 467 84.1%

  • Total voters
    555

lakemom

Veteran Member
Question for @Dennis Olson...I have one more to add to the list. Do you want me to update the numbers or no? As of right now, he is the only active case I have. The others are either recovered or recovering. And I still have not had it to my knowledge.
 

mommafitz

Member
My husband has recovered. His taste and smell haven't fully returned yet. It's been 3 weeks and he can distinguish salt or tart flavors on occasion and only flowery smells. He felt bad, very tired, no appetite, no taste nor smell. I have still been Covid free, thank God! I updated my vote to reflect the change.
 

school marm

Contributing Member
Just so you are aware- a lot of people who get Covid have cold like symptoms. I have 2 friends who came out to Vegas from Houston. About 2 days after going home the wife tested positive. She has more flu like symptoms with harsh cough, headache, and congestion. On several meds including Ivermectin. Husband tested negative. A few days later he thought he just had a cold or sinus infection and sure enough he tested positive. It's possible you could all actually have Covid but very mild symptoms.
I appreciate the thought. We really think it's a cold because it started with DS's fiancee, and she tested negative. (And her family is vaxxed.) DS came down with the same symptoms, then a couple of days later, DD3 started in with it. Five or six days later, DD1 developed symptoms. And now baby granddaughter has it. :(
 

lakemom

Veteran Member
Yes. Count all immediate family
Well hell. So what are considering immediate family? I did not count my brothers & their children as we don't live anywhere near each other & don't see each other much. They are still "immediate family." I know, I know...buncha damn cats... :lol:
 

poppy

Veteran Member
Then my total is 17. Two members I believe had it twice, but I did not count them twice. In one family only one member has it, so I'm sure this number will increase by at least 4 in the near future.
Maybe the others will catch, maybe not. That's one thing about the virus I never understood. I had it but my wife never did have symptoms at all. I know several people who had the same experience. If it is so contagious that you can pick it up just walking into Walmart, how in the world can you live in the same house, sleep in the same bed, ride in the car together, etc. and not catch it? Perhaps she had it with no symptoms but she is prone to respiratory infections. Makes no sense to me.
 

lakemom

Veteran Member
Maybe the others will catch, maybe not. That's one thing about the virus I never understood. I had it but my wife never did have symptoms at all. I know several people who had the same experience. If it is so contagious that you can pick it up just walking into Walmart, how in the world can you live in the same house, sleep in the same bed, ride in the car together, etc. and not catch it? Perhaps she had it with no symptoms but she is prone to respiratory infections. Makes no sense to me.
I was in a house, in the same room, being near/brushing up against/hugging/etc., 9 of the initial ones who got it. I have no clue how I have not gotten it. Millwright thinks I may have actually had it and not known it based upon the fact that for about 3 weeks or so I was so damn tired that sometimes I literally couldn't keep my eyes open. As in, was carrying on a conversation with someone at work and quite literally fell asleep sitting up while they were speaking to me. She said my eyes drooped one time and then I was out. I woke up to her standing there grinning at me. I asked how long I was asleep and she told me not long at all, but you were definitely asleep. :lol:

Other than extreme fatigue, the only other difference during that time period was a slight change in the runny nose I have had for the past year.

If I did have it, I am truly amazed that those are the only symptoms. I am blood type A- and have smoked for over 40 years. To say my lungs are not in the best shape would be an understatement.
 

Shotgun Willy

Contributing Member
Well, I originally put one because my son had it, but he ended his quarantine yesterday. Of course my wife has it now so I’m quarantined till Wednesday when they’ll test me. We both had the J&J some months back so she isn’t that bad off. So, still one.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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DDIL's doctor called her this morning to ask how she's doing in her "COVID fight". Unfortunately, she had to call her back because she took advantage of temps in the 40s and was on a 5 mile run. Doctor apparently sounded a bit stunned! She didn't mention the 2 doses of ivermectin she took on days 2 and 3...

(This woman eats *very* well, is a marathon runner, very self disciplined, but works a demanding, high stress job, and is still nursing an 8 month old baby. She's one who doesn't take *any* meds. Her only complaint about ivermectin is she felt "revved" and couldn't rest... hence, she was out cleaning stalls on day 3!)

Hubby has similar issues with ivermectin, and I do as well)

Soo... when are we supposed to change our votes back to zero, or are you looking for a cumulative total? The title doesn't reflect that...

Summerthyme
 

Heliobas Disciple

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I have been kinda keeping an eye on this thread. The problem I have with it is that it is kinda like CDC numbers. The infected gets listed but never dropped off for the recovered. You would really need a daily poll and then track the numbers.
I think it's informative as to how many got sick or had sick family members, not how many are currently or still sick but I'm not sure what Dennis intended it to be when he made the poll. Maybe Dennis' total is how many have replied to the thread and then the poll will show how many currently have it?

HD
 

Hometown

No place like home
My niece and nephew, his test positive and she got it taking care of him. My older niece lives with them has had the shots and she just had it a few weeks ago. Neither of these two have had the shots and took care of her when she was sick. Go figure.
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
Unless someone has had a PCR test, there is simply no way of knowing for certain, if someone has Coronavirus or not. It is possible to have Covid-19, and have no symptoms. In the UK, there are research projects, that randomly test people. The results of random testing is showing that there are many asymptomatic cases of the disease.

You could ask the question how many people have symptoms of Coronavirus. I would say and each and everyone of my family, but we are all testing negative, so it looks like a bad summer cold.

Without the results from a PCR test, it is impossible to answer this survey
Well on the contrary if someone has a PCR test they have know way of knowing if the have the covid or flu!
 

Anrol5

Senior Member
Well on the contrary if someone has a PCR test they have know way of knowing if the have the covid or flu!
Please post your references that show Antigen and PCR test cannot differentiate between Covid and Flu. I have found the opposite and I post my sources.

Fact Check-CDC lab update on COVID-19 PCR tests misinterpreted direct quote from the article
New guidelines from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) withdrawing their request for Emergency Use Authorization for a coronavirus test introduced in February 2020 do not mean that these polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests have failed to differentiate between COVID-19 and Influenza, as users online claim. Rather, the agency is advising the adoption of new tests that can check patients for both SARS-CoV-2 and Influenza viruses.
Fact check: A swab test is highly unlikely to misdiagnose flu or common cold as COVID-19
Points out Antigen test (Lateral Flow tests) *ONLY* look for Covid-19. And PCR tests are looking for Covid-19 DNA *ONLY*. Both these give high false negative results. These tests are being withdrawn as newer tests can test for multiple viruses at once. This means the patient only need one set of swabs, rather than multiple tests. And the newer tests are also more accurate. Better for everyone.

And if you want a more scholarly discussion of the differences between Covid and Flu RNA here is the article COVID-19 and the Flu | ASM.org
 

Slydersan

Senior Member
In northeast Ohio - my young niece caught it at school (One of the brothers had something similar but he never tested positive). All she had symptom-wise was a low grade fever that went away with tylenol, etc. However, she gave it to my mother, not vaxxed. She got sick and it inflamed her pancreas, so she had a lot of pain with that. There were no beds available at the hospital she went to. (No idea if that was because of staffing shortages or anything, that's just what she was told). She had the option of waiting around to see if a bed opened up or go home. She went home with some meds and told to go on an all liquid diet for a few days (for the pancreas) and is getting better. Her symptoms were typical, sore throat, some coughing but nothing serious (her oxygen level never went below 98), malaise, headache, etc. Her doctor, who had just gone through this same thing a month ago, said it was the Delta-variant, and that is causes inflammation of the organs, particularly the pancreas.
 

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
It's been a wild ride since Sunday evening. I probably will have to start another thread to imortalize this crazy trip. I am officially negative for Covid but there is a very good chance I will be counted anyway. The medical world (enemy territory) out there is totally disorganized and crazed. For over 2 days I was tortured and brused, was fed lots of BS and not much else. Don't know what kind of info they were trying to extract boss but I hung tight, escaped (as was my duty) and did not give them any usable intel. Reporting back for new assignment, a very tired, but alive
ShyGirl.
:sal:
 

ShyGirl

Veteran Member
Because of “prairie dog syndrome,” whenever anyone gets so much as a sniffle they scuttle off to the doc for testing.
Mine was not "prairie dog syndrome" but was probably made worse because of all the panic around. I honestly could barely breathe Sunday evening due to atrial fibrillation but I didn't know what was causing my difficulty breathing. I had SVT (Supra Ventricular Tachacardia) from the time I was a kid until I had the RF Ablation procedure done in 1999. Now have to put up with AFIB. Whoever wired my heart did a really crappy job.
 

Sherry in PA

Contributing Member
Since this thread started, I've wondered about something.

How do you know you have/had Covid?
I knew when I had Covid because it was the most terrifying sickness I have ever experienced in my 52 years. I can not even begin to explain how your lungs feel. The cough is straight out of a laboratory. I can’t mimic it now. I’ve never had pneumonia before to compare it but my husband did a few years ago and mine was different. I was 100 percent sure I was going to die. A few steps and gasping for air that you couldn’t find. I think the hospitals know you have covid as soon as they hear the cough. If you get Covid and it goes for your lungs you are in a heap of trouble.
 

magnetic1

Veteran Member
3 grandsons, one daughter and one SIL all going through it now. All got the recommended protocol and are doing pretty well. However, it’s so bad around here, that the two little grands school has closed down for a bit. Daughter had 1 shot but nobody else
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
I appreciate the thought. We really think it's a cold because it started with DS's fiancee, and she tested negative. (And her family is vaxxed.) DS came down with the same symptoms, then a couple of days later, DD3 started in with it. Five or six days later, DD1 developed symptoms. And now baby granddaughter has it. :(
Do not ever trust the covid test. My wife tested negative when she had all symptoms but fever. That day I lost my sense of taste. Several months later she got antibody tested and had them. So the COVID test was a false negative.
 

Anrol5

Senior Member
Do not ever trust the covid test. My wife tested negative when she had all symptoms but fever. That day I lost my sense of taste. Several months later she got antibody tested and had them. So the COVID test was a false negative.
That is the problem. PCR tests are 30% false negative. Antigen tests are 60% false negative. Sources at end.

In the UK, a death certificate will only report a death, in most cases, as from Coronavirus, if the death occurred within 28 days of a positive test.

Covid-9 affects every part of your body. If you test positive for Covid, but die 6 months later of heart failure, it will be recorded as heart failure, not Covid-19. The fact that the Coronavirus damaged your heart, and killed you later, is not noted. Probability is that you would still be alive, if you had not had coronavirus. Ditto testing positive for Covid-19 now, but dying 5 years later from Kidney failure.
If you look at all the ways Covid-19 kills, and realise most are not recorded as Covid cases, you start to realise, there is a massive under reporting of Covid-19 cases.

I swear I have had Covid-19, but in the early days, there were no test. So everyone, who did not go to a doctor / hospital would not be recorded as having had Coronavirus.

So if around 200 million people worldwide are recorded as having Covid-19, I suspect the total is much higher.

Sources for False positive / false negatives - It was hard work to find anything about false results, either positive or negative. I learned so much about how the virus works, how the test work, and how they interact. And now understand why it is so hard to predict how well any Coved test works.
I did find two articles one by the BMJ, who search peer reviewed journals and distil the data PCR testing for SARS-CoV-2 is far from 100% sensitive
And also one by a university Epidemiologist AMA FAQ
There were various other articles, but not with a reasonable academic background. It seems generally accepted, that false positive run at 1-4% and false negatives at up to 30%.
Overall, it appears to me, that the over counted false positives are dwarfed by the undercounted false negatives.
 

Anrol5

Senior Member
Bwaaaa ha ha!
That's really funny.
Thanks for bringing a little smile to my day
You still have to produce your sources that show that there are an exceptionally high number of false positives.

You keep telling me they are all over the internet, but consistently fail to produce them. I did ask you in post 103 of this thread on date 3rd September to give me them, but you failed to reply.

If you produce your sources, I will take a look at them. Maybe not today, as I have a terrible summer cold, and it has knocked me out.
 

Border Collie Dad

Flat Earther
You still have to produce your sources that show that there are an exceptionally high number of false positives.

You keep telling me they are all over the internet, but consistently fail to produce them. I did ask you in post 103 of this thread on date 3rd September to give me them, but you failed to reply.

If you produce your sources, I will take a look at them. Maybe not today, as I have a terrible summer cold, and it has knocked me out.
I don't need to do your research for you but go no further than this forum.
I don't care if you look at them or not, BTW.
 
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