HITLERY in '08

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I just wanted to remind you of what we as a nation face in the next cycle....

:shkr: :shkr: :shkr: :shkr: :kk1: :kk1: :kk1: :kk1:

EDIT: I believe that the Dems fielded Kerry spcifically so he WOULD lose, thus setting up Hitlery as the next Dem nominee. And IMO, she has a better than 50-50 chance of taking the Presidency....

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Texian

Contributing Member
How about Barak Obama? He is all over the Boob toob and all channels and I haven't seen Hillary. Barak seems to be the Democratic parties one bright spot and the media are pushing him hard....he does speak well. Texian
 

A.T.Hagan

Inactive
Hilary Clinton is the favorite bogeywoman of a lot of you, but I still don't think she has what it takes to claim the Presidency.

Mostly she's useful for buffaloing the gullible into accepting what would be an otherwise unpalatable choice for the opposition.

If the Republicans were smart they'd fund her election bid.

.....Alan.
 

Texian

Contributing Member
A T, I think you are right. I read on another thread that Dems have run two "snobs" in the last two elections. Wouldn't Hillary kind of fit the same pattern as Gore and Kerry? Maybe not, but she comes across kind of cold to me. The next election starts now doesn't it? Texian
 

Aleph Null

Membership Revoked

I agree that Barack Obama has a very good chance next time.

I don't.

He's still too young and inexperienced, and there are still too many whites in this country who won't vote for a black president.

(There, I said it. But I think it's true.)

As for Hillary, if she runs in 2008 I will not only vote Republican, I will CAMPAIGN for the Republicans. :D

-A0-
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
Dennis Olson said:
EDIT: I believe that the Dems fielded Kerry spcifically so he WOULD lose, thus setting up Hitlery as the next Dem nominee. And IMO, she has a better than 50-50 chance of taking the Presidency....

You have got to be kidding me. She would be defeated really bad.

#1: Everyone sees her as a bitch. Plain and simple. Kerry was not really seen as mean, just snotty. Hillary is seen as mean, bitter, moody, etc. etc.....ALWAYS.

#2: Old school dems that still think 'A woman's place is in the kitchen.'

#3: Women who are middle of the road women's rights have to see her as weak. Her husband admits to banging at least one younger woman and she stays with him...OH WAIT (see #4)

#4: Her 'marriage' to her husband is seen as a joke. It is basically assumed that she is only still with him for her benefit. He doesn't love her, doesn't care for her, and he is looked at as a man who just wants his cake and ice cream. A lot of slight left leaning folks will not like how that looks.
 

MrO

Senior Member
blueridge said:
H. Clinton & Obama vs. ??? for the Reps????

It wouldn't be Cheney - so who might be the Rep's rising star(s)?

Hum... (theoretically of course, being a Canuck) I'd vote for a Giulliani/Rice ticket, or vice versa - problem tho is that Condoleeza seems not to be interested in higher office :(

-MrO

(also, should say that I was pretty impressed by Obama at the DNC - well spoken and not a shill for the usual Democratic victimology)
 

SageTheRage

Membership Revoked
Should Barak Obama indeed run, I can see the anti's slogan signs now..."B O stinks!" :lol: "Phew B O!" :D "Even deodorant won't mask the stench of B O's foreign/domestic policies!" :spns: etc.... (the list of possibilites would be endless)
 
You might have a point on Obama's age A0 - any idea how old he is now? He might actually not be old enough this next time around.

As for a repub ticket - I'd love to see Condi run, but I think she's too smart to do that :lol:

I think Rudy might be looking at it, though.

And, let's not forget the Governator - if they change things so he can run, that is.
 

SageTheRage

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indeed a "dream" ticket

As for the Republican offerings, I'd dearly love to see a Ron Paul/Tom Tancredo ticket!!! :usfl:
 

PentelPen

Membership Revoked
I still think McCain will try again. That's the only reason I can think of why he would be so chummy these past few months with the guy that destroyed him in the primaries 4 years ago.

Jeb Bush might not have been a bad idea 4 years ago. He seemed to be the one who got the brains. I think people will be sick of Bushes by 2008, though.
 

ZePPo

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Guilliani will not get the GOP's nod as long as he's still on the wrong side of the abortion issue.
 

brihard

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Heh... Imagine a presidential race of Barack vs. Condi. That would be interesting. I could imagine a lot of pissed bigots out there.
 

Freeholdfarm

Inactive
Is there any chance, do you think, that Ron Paul would run? And if he did, does he have any skeletons in his closet that would bring him down? I'd vote for him, if he ran.

Kathleen
 

Dollar Short

Veteran Member
2008

Hilary and Wes Clark vs Mccain and Condi Rice.

Conserative Dems/Independents vote Hilary/Wes because of Condi
Conservative Reps (who many believe were the key for Bush this time) stay largely at home because of the moderate McCain and the unknown Rice.


Hilary pulls out every bag of tricks (and every FBI file) in the Clinton library and wins handily.

After Jan 20, 2009 -- look out!
 

Thomas Paine

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Aleph Null said:

I agree that Barack Obama has a very good chance next time.

I don't.

He's still too young and inexperienced, and there are still too many whites in this country who won't vote for a black president.

(There, I said it. But I think it's true.)

As for Hillary, if she runs in 2008 I will not only vote Republican, I will CAMPAIGN for the Republicans. :D

-A0-


It's the end of the world as we know!!! :D :D
 

Gordana

Inactive
Dennis Olson said:
I just wanted to remind you of what we as a nation face in the next cycle....

:shkr: :shkr: :shkr: :shkr: :kk1: :kk1: :kk1: :kk1:

EDIT: I believe that the Dems fielded Kerry spcifically so he WOULD lose, thus setting up Hitlery as the next Dem nominee. And IMO, she has a better than 50-50 chance of taking the Presidency....

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Yup, someone will be filling Hiter's shoes in 08.

Maybe the Dems will field Hillary in 08 specifically so she WOULD lose (same reasons as given by Ravekid). So who's the Republican meant to win in 08? My guess- Arnie. He just has to brush off his dad's swastika and he'll be ready for the job.
 

SouthernGal

"Don't retreat...reload"
blueridge said:
H. Clinton & Obama vs. ??? for the Reps????

It wouldn't be Cheney - so who might be the Rep's rising star(s)?


I think it will be Rudy Giuliani ("America's Mayor")
 

milkydoo

Inactive
Freeholdfarm said:
Is there any chance, do you think, that Ron Paul would run? And if he did, does he have any skeletons in his closet that would bring him down? I'd vote for him, if he ran.

Kathleen
Skeletons? Yeah, he's an ex-Libertarian and is still a Libertarian at heart. That's enough to trash talk him 24/7 in their minds.

Lots of neeto ideas here. How about this one: Hillary runs for VP. Kerry is such a flake that it wouldn't take much of a candidate to out do him and then he could be off'ed so Hillary could take over.

The problem we have is that the two party system has become so nasty that the people *must* have change, even if it's phony or for the worse. 8 years of Bush will have the Dems frothing like mad dogs. Republicans *will not* match their turnout next time.

Also, I do believe that the Skull and Bones leadership used Kerry as a fall guy like Dennis said. They need 4 more years of neocon Bush to use for BOR shredding activities and police state installation. Then a Dem can be brought in for wholesale abuse of the laws that the "conservative" Bush created.

Ping pong, you're dead.
 

atlantajack

Inactive
I can't see Hillary having a chance of being elected! (Of course, I didn't think the people of NY would elect her to the Senate!) She may have a chance as a VP candidate, maybe with Wes Clark or John Edwards. If it happens, they better have a meal-taster!
Jack :lol:
 

susie0884

Dooming since 1998
Jeb Bush might not have been a bad idea 4 years ago. He seemed to be the one who got the brains. I think people will be sick of Bushes by 2008, though.

I'm agreed here. Jeb has obviously got what it takes--even his parents say that HE is the one they thought would be President. But just because he IS W.'s brother it is REALLY going to hurt his chances--at least for a few years.
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So much depends upon events of the next four years. I said it two years ago--when the Republicans got a majority in Congress--and it is even more true now: Bush and the republicans have a great opportunity. So far I'm not impressed. The terrorism stuff IS certainly going to force the loss of a lot of Americans' precious liberties. That is not good and may haunt the republicans. I hope the democrats "see the light" and run a moderate in 2008. But they seem to have run the moderates in their party into hiding. If Hillary really wants it, she has four years to demonstrate that she is for all of us, rather than just for herself or her party.

The future really is a funny place. Anything can happen. And really, all we can do is watch.
 

Ought Six

Membership Revoked
Hillary has a political tin ear, and is prone to making stupid, self-harming statements. She is far too leftist to get the needed moderate/independant votes to win, and unlike her husband lacks the acting skills to pretend to be a centrist. And as others have said, she is a short-tempered bitch. Let us hope the Dimbocrats nominate her in 2008.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Hillary/Obama in 2008?

Could be the one ticket that actually succeeds in getting a negative popular vote, as in less than zero. Not because Hillary's female or Obama's an African-American, but because (people seem to be having such a hard time understanding this) they are sitting legislators, not executives such as governors. (It goes without saying that Hillary's personality disorders will prevent most from voting for her; the voters will cashier her on that basis, without even looking at her lack of executive credentials.)

The electoral landscape is littered with the corpses of Congressmen and Senators who thought they could be elected President. There have been hundreds of them...Kerry and Edwards are just the latest casualties. The American electorate wants its chief executive to have (gasp!) executive experience, something just about all legislators lack.

If the Democrats want a viable candidate, they better be looking toward someone in their rapidly dwindling pool of state governors. Except, they should pass over anybody remotely resembling Michael Dukakis, who, as we all remember, was a laughable disaster as a presidential candidate.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
Never would I vote for McCain. I shudder when I see him on the tube. There is a frightening emptiness in his eyes, I think he lost something vital when he was a prisoner in vietnam. I'm sure its not his fault, but I dont want someone who lost a vital part of his humanity for president.

I think Guiliani has the right stuff to make it, everyone already knows about his picadillos (so far, anyway) so I dont think they could get much more to discredit him, he comes across as honest, forthright and Human which is very refreshing.

I can't stand Hitlery, she reminds me of a fishwife shieking at a market. Or my mother. :D That clip that Sean Hannity plays of her shrieking "Now we are SICK & TIRED.....". A woman that desires power over others to the extent she does is downright unnatural.
 

Toto

Inactive
Hey Dennis, relax:

I believe that the Dems fielded Kerry spcifically so he WOULD lose


In point of fact, I think that most Dems have NO IDEA how Kerry was "fielded" in the first place, having had so many better candidates to choose from, as has been amply pointed out in other posts on this forum. Personally, I really thought it would be Gephardt, after the Dean fiasco. IMHO, I don't think it was the "dems" who did the fielding of Kerry.

Second, there won't BE another election after this one, so just chill. That's the real agenda, folks. So don't waste time worrying about "Hellery" - most Dems wouldn't vote for her either!! Worry about the continuation of the Bush empire. I personally am going to go "off grid" as rapidly as possible. Thanks in great part to the advice from this forum.

Ok.
I'll go away now, not having a clue what else to suggest at this point.

(toto lets the curtain drop slowly)
 

Quentin

Inactive
If the Dems have nothing better than Hillary to run, they'll tank much worse than they did with Kerry. Talk about values being important to Americans? We can't easily forget husband Slick Willy oral office escapades or how Hillary tried to revamp our health system behind closed doors. Time to rename her Hilarity for her scant chances to win.

They need someone thats a moderate to have a chance.
 
Joe Lieberman could be a viable Democratic candidate, although he will be 66 in 2008.

Gov. George Pataki (R-NY) is said to be aiming to unseat Hillary in 2006, FWIW.

Condi or Colin Powell are possible Republican candidates.

One to keep your eye upon -- cowboy booted, UVa grad and former governor of Virginia, U.S. Sen. Geroge Allen (R-VA). He has got the good-ol-boy, aw-shucks, southern drawl act down pat, owns a smile that causes mothers to want to pinch his face cheeks, and was a competent/effective statesman during his tenure. He will be 56 in 2008.


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