OT/MISC Hey Any Carolinians...

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
You might try looking in the upstate part of South Carolina - the Greenville - Spartanburg area is really beautiful

its incredibly beautiful there . . . its also pretty DARK in lots of it

Hear it all the time on my police scanners. Black male this, and black male that.

Its bad in Spartanburg, about half of Greenville, especially north Greenville,
and Anderson is also bad. These are the 3 main cities that comprise,
The Upstate of South Carolina.

It is still not bad, so far in the town that I am in, but with each passing year,
it gets DARKER AND DARKER. As I have stated many times,
no place in the ZUSA, is going to be spared from the diversity destruction.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all,

Nowski
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
I keep thinking of moving back to NC but creeping urban growth is ever closer to my hometown and liberalism is coming with it. Western NC near Boone is where I'm now looking, although the idea of going a few miles further into TN and losing the income tax is very inviting.

absolutely the best thing one could do if looking to come to this area . . . ASSville is very slowly poisoning WNC . . . like a bad drain field the stench is seeping out into the rural areas. as much as I love it where we are if I had to leave here that area of TN north of 81 and W of Bristol is where I'd be looking.

I've owned property here since '94 . . . lived here nearly 20 yrs . . . in the last 12-15 years its changed - and its changed SIGNIFICANTLY
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Hear it all the time on my police scanners. Black male this, and black male that.

Its bad in Spartanburg, about half of Greenville, especially north Greenville,
and Anderson is also bad. These are the 3 main cities that comprise,
The Upstate of South Carolina.

It is still not bad, so far in the town that I am in, but with each passing year,
it gets DARKER AND DARKER. As I have stated many times,
no place in the ZUSA, is going to be spared from the diversity destruction.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all,

Nowski

when I first built here in the late 90's I saw 3 different blacks in an entire YEAR. I actually thought they wouldn't come into this part of the state. slowly there were more and more. now you can see flocks of them in the smaller rural city areas - waynesville canton maggie etc . . .

why RM!!!!! Is that a problem for you? not for me - cuz I'm an old bastard - but at the current rate of demographic shift

IT DAMN SURE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE
 

Mr. Peabody

Veteran Member
I live in Anderson County SC. Not in Anderson. Some of Anderson is old mill town with deliciously white trash scum or the hood. The hood is by far better than than the trailer park trash. But we stay clear of these areas and let them rot.
Our Sheriff is one of the most constructionist Constitutional lawmen I have ever known, and I have known hundreds of LE. Out here in the county we don't have the problems of the city. The Sheriff and his deputies know we will do what is necessary if the situation arises. He even publicly states that our 2A was written to possess the ability to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government, something few LE will say in private. He helps make this county a great place to live. Whatever state, county or city you live in, you need to be sure that your Constitutional rights are being respected by the elected government.
Here in SC and Anderson county, we are in a very good place surrounded by like minded citizens.
 

Bud in Fla

Veteran Member
We have a friend who grew up in the Bronx and lived there most of her life. We met her here near Ocala. They moved to Clearwater, Fl a few years ago. Now they've decided to move near their daughter.....ever hear of North Augusta, SC? We're talking 'bout it's gonna be a world class cultural shock! They play the Masters Golf Tournament in Augusta, Ga. North Augusta, SC is just across the river - it's also the "other side of the tracks". Hot, humid and the local population is not well diversified...

James Brown ( I feel good!) was from North Augusta and his family is still fighting over his money. Ever hear of Murphy Village, SC? It's just up the road. Google "Irish Travelers" and "scams"

Need your house painted? $300 and done that day! Looks good until the first rain. Same with the driveway refinishing & everything else they do!


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ASHEBORO — The Randolph County Sheriff’s Office reports “the ‘Irish Travelers’ are back!”

ASHEBORO — The Randolph County Sheriff’s Office reports “the ‘Irish Travelers’ are back!”

Sheriff Maynard Reid advises local homeowners to avoid doing business with anyone offering a deal “too good to be true.”

Deputies responded Monday to a request for assistance from a Liberty-area homeowner regarding a dispute with individuals offering to pave the owner’s driveway at a very low price. The homeowner recognized this as a scam and ordered the people to leave the property. An argument followed, prompting the homeowner to call 911 for help.

Deputies arrived shortly after the individuals had left. They were traveling in a 2014 silver Chevrolet pickup truck, last seen in the Low Bridge Road/White’s Chapel area of northeastern Randolph County.

The pickup’s license plate registration came back to a female with the last name of Sherlock and showing a North Augusta, S.C., street address in an unincorporated community known as Murphy Village.

The sheriff’s office reported that area “is home to some 1,500 rip-off and scam artists known as ‘Irish Travelers,’ who journey to nearby states in order to defraud and steal from their victims. Sherlock is a prominent name known by law enforcement to be associated with that group.”

‘Deal of a lifetime’

Det. Lt. Ed Blair said these Travelers move around from county to county and are usually gone by the time complaints are reported to local authorities.

“They target older homeowners who tend to be more trusting,” he said. “They have been known to actually damage a home in some way in order to create a need for repairs, and then offer a cheap solution to the problem.”

He reported that “they offer to work as house and barn painters, driveway pavers, lightning rod installers, roofers and so on. These con artists will offer to prune your trees, seal your roof and exterminate your termites (usually by spraying nothing more than water). Often, one of them will keep you engaged in a conversation while a cohort goes inside your home and steals anything of value, especially silverware and jewelry.”

Blair said, as was the case with the Randolph incident involving paving a driveway, “They tell their victims a story about having too much material left over from their last paving job, and how their bosses will fire them if they come back with it because it can’t be returned to the asphalt plant. After convincing the homeowner that their driveway is in desperate need of repaving, they will then offer the victim a ‘deal of a lifetime,’ just so they can keep their job.”

The victim gets a thin coat of a driveway sealer or, at best, a very thin coat of asphalt which soon begins to deteriorate and crumble apart.

“Any work performed by the Travelers is suspect and shoddy. They use inadequate and inferior materials, and often leave the residence before their ‘work’ is completed, leaving the homeowner to have to hire someone else to correct and clean up the mess,” he noted.

Shoddy items

Blair said these individuals “are also merchants of flimsy, dangerous shop machinery supposedly produced by a tool and equipment company located in South Carolina. The story they tell is that the items (with decals saying ‘Made in the USA’) were ordered by a man who had just died, or some other excuse, and that the factory did not want the items back as they had already been removed from inventory. The Traveler will then show an invoice or bill of lading with an exaggerated, inflated price, and will offer to sell the equipment at a deep discount.”

For example, a piece of equipment showing a retail price of $5,995 will be offered to the victim for $2,500. The equipment may have cost $200, which results in a profit of over $2,200. The unsuspecting buyer is left with, literally, a piece of junk.

He said most machine components are imported from Taiwan and Korea and merely assembled in this country, a process which, technically and legally, justifies the misleading claim of being “Made in the USA.”

“Be suspicious of these traveling con artists who don’t live around here,” Reid said. “We are blessed to have good, honest people in Randolph County and in the Triad who do good work. It’s always best to do business with someone you know or can get a reference for.”

Anyone with information is advised to call (336) 318-6699.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
It is a classy out dated place. All the wood and stone are from the mountain...
I’m kinda in contact with the owner and that price might come down a notch.
So here we have a TB2k retreat, 3200’...
Maybe a 501c
It’s the end of the world, so I’ll kick in a chunk....
It's a ridiculous amount of money and even at half the price, the place has been beat up for the past 30 years and nothing done with it. They couldn't even fork over to have that pool dozed and buried before they put it on the market. Says a lot. Plus, only 20 acres.
 

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
It is a classy out dated place. All the wood and stone are from the mountain...
I’m kinda in contact with the owner and that price might come down a notch.
So here we have a TB2k retreat, 3200’...
Maybe a 501c
It’s the end of the world, so I’ll kick in a chunk....

We're just a few hours east! Just tell me when to come help... and partay!!!
 

Nich1

Veteran Member
It seems that there are problems in most areas of the country! However, there are pockets where "good folk" live. The problem with that is that the good folk either die off or move out and it joins the rest of the places where you wouldn't want to live!

The Triad area of NC, imho, is OK. Someone above spoke ill of it, but I would disagree. The summers here are very hot and humid; winters are generally tolerable but there have been some doozies with temps in the single digits. The red clay surprisingly grows wonderful gardens, despite becoming hard as a rock during dry times. :-)

Without knowing someone or visiting a place, it would be really hard to make a decision. Even with those two things available, it all depends on what suits you. My thought has always been...you make your own contentment. There are people who are never settled, always wanting something else, something more. No place on earth will make them happy. So, you've got to determine what you want, what you need, what will make you happy. Chances are it's not where you live. :-)
 

Squid

Veteran Member
Ok so if everything works out with my not very high priced lawyer at the parole hearing I might be traveling to great unwashed hinterlands where some of ‘all ya’all’ reside in 3 or so weeks.

Any suggestions of places to see, check out or eat at from Nashville all the way around the smokie mtns are welcome.

Thinking about the edge of Tn, western N Carolina to E tip of Ga, basically a big circle around the mountains.

Also towns or area’s that would provide views of the big hills for consideration would also be appreciated, or places to stay away from, ie. this is the town I live in and the thought of Squid being anywhere near me makes me break out so not here’
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Peak Leaf Season here is supposed to be the third week in Oct, so it should be a pretty time to visit up this way. It does tend to get crowded with leaf peepers however, so look to lodgings early along.

Do drive carefully on these narrow twisty roads.
 

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
Ok so if everything works out with my not very high priced lawyer at the parole hearing I might be traveling to great unwashed hinterlands where some of ‘all ya’all’ reside in 3 or so weeks.

Any suggestions of places to see, check out or eat at from Nashville all the way around the smokie mtns are welcome.

Thinking about the edge of Tn, western N Carolina to E tip of Ga, basically a big circle around the mountains.

Also towns or area’s that would provide views of the big hills for consideration would also be appreciated, or places to stay away from, ie. this is the town I live in and the thought of Squid being anywhere near me makes me break out so not here’

Eat, lodge and visit Shatley Springs, in NC, and take some gallons of their healing spring water.
 

Infoscout

The Dude Abides
My home county of Rockingham is pretty red, and borders Danville, VA. It is a great place to live, Ruger is there. Property values like everywhere else are getting too high but what can you do.

I am in Raleigh, I hope to escape very soon!
 

Jake Grey

Veteran Member
We wanted to retire in Ashe County, but it was a little too expensive for us. We looked in 2 nearest counties in Tennessee and 2 nearest counties in Virginia. Found and purchased our vacation/retirement/BOL in late 2019. Just wish we could afford to move there permanently NOW.
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
My home county of Rockingham is pretty red, and borders Danville, VA. It is a great place to live, Ruger is there. Property values like everywhere else are getting too high but what can you do.

I am in Raleigh, I hope to escape very soon!

I have looked there, since my home county a couple to the east has turned into a northern suburb of Durham, complete with all the negative aspects of Durham. Unless you enjoy gang activity, drugs and other urban crimes as local cultural activities.
 

Maryh

Veteran Member
Youngest son just bought a house south of Raleigh near Holly Springs. 3 wooded acres and we're going down to see it end of the month. He works in Durham but lov es it in the woods.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
The thing is, Squid, is that if you've been raised a Rocky Mountain boy, you need to really consider climate change - not the political junk science one - the very REAL difference of a humid climate compared to a dry one.

You're going down to visit during the nicest time of year with the bugs largely gone, the temps and humidity down and the leaves turning. Now there's nothing wrong with that but it can give you an unbalanced view of things. You really need to go there in late July or early August before you make a decision, so you can let the bugs feast on some fresh meat if they can work their way through the sweat that'll be covering you all day and night. And when you get out of the shower, the towel will be soaked and you'll still be sweating up a storm. You have to convince yourself that sweating is a good thing.

But hey ... once you get the itch you do indeed have to scratch it.

Get yourself a trailer house in both places and be a sort of snowbird? That wouldn't be all bad.
 

2ndAmendican

Veteran Member
I grew up in Asheville, back when it was somewhat "normal" and there was just a Hippy presence. As several have mentioned, it's the San Francisco of the East, and has actually been called that in several magazine articles. The Libtards have absolutely ruined the place. I moved to SC in 1987, and never looked back. I'm near Nowski in the Greenville area, specifically Taylors. Beautiful area with better than average demographics. One of the best places I've ever lived.

Jeep, I definitely agree on some of the areas you mentioned, especially Spruce Pine. I had some close friends there, and we used to go visit regularly. Beautiful area, and the folks are nice as can be.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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The thing is, Squid, is that if you've been raised a Rocky Mountain boy, you need to really consider climate change - not the political junk science one - the very REAL difference of a humid climate compared to a dry one.

You're going down to visit during the nicest time of year with the bugs largely gone, the temps and humidity down and the leaves turning. Now there's nothing wrong with that but it can give you an unbalanced view of things. You really need to go there in late July or early August before you make a decision, so you can let the bugs feast on some fresh meat if they can work their way through the sweat that'll be covering you all day and night. And when you get out of the shower, the towel will be soaked and you'll still be sweating up a storm. You have to convince yourself that sweating is a good thing.

But hey ... once you get the itch you do indeed have to scratch it.

Get yourself a trailer house in both places and be a sort of snowbird? That wouldn't be all bad.
Agree on checking it out in July or August! A few years ago, hubby and I took Dixie to Virginia to try to breed her. Shoestring budget as always, so we camped with her at a campground. It was HOT sticky and buggy. High 90s every day. One afternoon, we headed into the Great Smoky Mountain National Park... got up about 2500 feet, and it was 72 degrees and gorgeous!

We have a member here who moved back to northern Michigan after less than a year at their new home in Missouri.

Summerthyme
 

Jake Grey

Veteran Member
"Ooh, it's cool in the mountains, we can make do without air conditioning. " Our famous words last Spring. After a couple of nights dripping in sweat with windows open and fans blowing on us, installed a heat pump. We're at 2450 ft.
 

Scrapman

Veteran Member
I've got a brother in law in fountain springs. Very quiet . Large contingent of hills angels in town and are business owners. No one effs around there everyone knows members.
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Western NC is beautiful but you are up in the mountains and it can be colder and more snow filled there than up north during the winters.............

Go to the lower lands of the foothills or Pee Dee in SC.....if you want to enjoy the milder climate that the Carolinas offer but I agree stay away from the counties that big cities are the country seat............I'm in the Charlotte area but 14 mile out in Concord and the county that Charlotte is in.......and let me tell you there is nothing but farm land around where I'm at......
 

Squid

Veteran Member
absolutely the best thing one could do if looking to come to this area . . . ASSville is very slowly poisoning WNC . . . like a bad drain field the stench is seeping out into the rural areas. as much as I love it where we are if I had to leave here that area of TN north of 81 and W of Bristol is where I'd be looking.

I've owned property here since '94 . . . lived here nearly 20 yrs . . . in the last 12-15 years its changed - and its changed SIGNIFICANTLY
How about Bryson or west of Bryson?

Also is the Black Mountain area too close?

Or the north cooridor Morganton to Boone?
 

Squid

Veteran Member
The thing is, Squid, is that if you've been raised a Rocky Mountain boy, you need to really consider climate change - not the political junk science one - the very REAL difference of a humid climate compared to a dry one.

You're going down to visit during the nicest time of year with the bugs largely gone, the temps and humidity down and the leaves turning. Now there's nothing wrong with that but it can give you an unbalanced view of things. You really need to go there in late July or early August before you make a decision, so you can let the bugs feast on some fresh meat if they can work their way through the sweat that'll be covering you all day and night. And when you get out of the shower, the towel will be soaked and you'll still be sweating up a storm. You have to convince yourself that sweating is a good thing.

But hey ... once you get the itch you do indeed have to scratch it.

Get yourself a trailer house in both places and be a sort of snowbird? That wouldn't be all bad.
Fyi, I lived in Orlando and in Charleston. Thinking of some elevation snow is no big deal depending more on the cold . Big difference between 32 and -10.

Not thinking trailer, thinking building on some land.

Also this is the first of several visits, likely multi year plan. But all great points thanks.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Shatley Springs was called Radium Springs for a while. Last I knew the whole place was for sale.

If you head that way and want to be annoyed by a fellow TB2Ker, PM me. I'll treat you to a pizza at POTM (Pie On The Mountain).
 

Squid

Veteran Member
I live in Henderson county around a half hour south of Asheville. It’s beautiful country but it has gotten pricey in the last few years. There is a reason that it’s expensive. And I friggin love it here. It’s some of the best weather ever, one ok snowfall per year the last 8 years and I’m in sweats and hoodie in July and no AC. Butt loads of outside activities. Used to visit Asheville occasionally, but haven’t been since the silliness started.
Part of the moving to a new area is being accepted.
And because it’s a purple area, with tourists, it’s open minded to all hard working people. Not sure if that’s a positive or not.
Tons of work, regardless of your field.
And 5 hours to the ocean, myrtle beach area...... sorry...

And I’m not trying to sell anything here, but in a bunch of years traveling, this is where I want planted.
And I would gladly meet for a cup of coffee in downtown Hendersonville with any TB2k folks and share what knowledge I have.

My treat....
Pricey is relative. I purchased some acres in some farm land area in central Ohio some 20 years ago. The city is expanding and now 1 acre goes for what used to get 5-7 acres.

Looking at zillow land in rural parts there looks like what I started with out here.

Those damn carpet baggers!!!
:rolleyes:
 

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
If you had to order them top to bottom what would be the order and why?

thanks..

Brevard, so many beautiful waterfalls in Transylvania County. Also cool cabins and backpacking places, great jump off into the river places on Horse Pasture River.

Saluda, a cool old town with a cool park on the river (or was it a creek?) by the train tracks. Cool Ma and Pa old cabins, cool trails nearby.
 

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
Shatley Springs was called Radium Springs for a while. Last I knew the whole place was for sale.

If you head that way and want to be annoyed by a fellow TB2Ker, PM me. I'll treat you to a pizza at POTM (Pie On The Mountain).

Really? We were there Memorial Day w/e. Have stayed there a time or two. They are awesome! I hope nothing changes. We are less than 2 hours from there. Never been to POTM. (Hubby avoids gluten) :(
 
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