Here is how they are going to get Bush and his "treasonous" buddies.

[Troke]

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

During Jane Mayer's event Tuesday at New America promoting her penetrating new book, The Dark Side, a topic came up during the Q & A that I'd like to expand on—the possibility of establishing a truth commission for the Bush administration's transgressions. The idea has been getting some play recently, both from Nick Kristof in the New York Times and scattered across some blogs…The South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission is generally held up as the model for such bodies, which don't have formal judicial power but instead serve primarily as instruments for the discovery of past wrongdoings by governments.

So far, when each instance of misconduct has been revealed — from the destruction of CIA interrogation tapes and waterboarding to extraordinary renditions and habeas-corpus-free detention of prisoners at Guantanamo — individual solutions have been sought and some individual actors have been put forth to be held accountable. But this approach is piecemeal at best and does not get at the connective tissue and the systematization of abuses.

A truth commission, however, would provide a more holistic approach to the violations that have been committed or ordered by individuals and agencies within the government. A commission would serve as an opportunity to look back and expose where the administration started to go wrong in its decision-making process; allow those whose rights have been violated to be heard; and give Americans on the whole a chance to cleanse our national conscience—and our image abroad.

 

[fruit loop]

Nothing will happen. This jerk will get away with it just like Lincoln did.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

High treason is the art of the MSM and much of the U.S. intelligence community that opted to oppose their commander in chief.

The Bush Administration has mainly sought to look after U.S. national interests....imagine that!

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/ksm2.htm

 

[BigBadBossyDog]

If that lying SOB Klinton didn't get punished, nobody should.

I am sooo glad Bush is in office and was in office 9-11. OMG, we might have had Algore! I quake at the thought.

 

[Wise Owl]

the Bush admin has sought to take care of itself and their buddies interests, not the National interests. If they had done as you say, we would not be looking at a forever war, loss of privacy, freedom, and a miriad of other things like being a gadzillion $$'s in debt......and the economy about to crash.

These things all happened on "their" watch. And with "their" doing.

 

[Wise Owl]

Oh yeah, Klinton had sex in the whitehouse.....bad boy. The Bush admin has committed crimes against humanity.
Apples and oranges....

 

[et2]

Bush tries to pardon himself from treason and war crimes

Nothing will be done to the POS. He just continued in his fathers footsteps.He will probably go down as one of the worst presidents in history. Yes ... even worse then Bill. He has ruined this country and what it stands for ... freedom. I so dread the coming elections. Because if we are stuck with the candidates before us ... were screwed. Mc Cain is the same Bush corporate clone.

Go to the link ... see what the chimp is trying to do.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc&NR=1

 

[RCSAR]

Just saw Jane Mayer speak on book tv c-span2 7am central.

I hope they rerun it

they will

http://www.booktv.org/program.aspx?ProgramId=9723&SectionName=&PlayMedia=No

Upcoming Schedule
Sunday, July 20, at 10:00 PM

 

[skip8]

Oh yeah, Klinton had sex in the whitehouse.....bad boy. The Bush admin has committed crimes against humanity.
Apples and oranges....

Clinton was a serial rapist, who abused many women in his positions of power...nice to see your an apologist for rape.

The Clintons sold out our nation to the Chinese...technology and military secrets for campaign cash. Nice to see so many supporters of treason in high office.

Clinton decimated our military and human intel capability...a great CIC.

Clinton lied to a Federal Grand Jury.

Clinton was impeached.

Bush, Cheney and Rove, despite all the efforts of screaming Moon-Bats and an impotent MSM now exposed as a wing of the DNC, will MoveOn, after defending our country.

Let history decide.

 

[don24mac]

Naw... He'll simply be pardoned... by himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHQ7Prwh7Gc

 

[hawkeye]

Clinton was a serial rapist, who abused many women in his positions of power...nice to see your an apologist for rape.

The Clintons sold out our nation to the Chinese...technology and military secrets for campaign cash. Nice to see so many supporters of treason in high office.

Clinton decimated our military and human intel capability...a great CIC.

Clinton lied to a Federal Grand Jury.

Clinton was impeached.

Bush, Cheney and Rove, despite all the efforts of screaming Moon-Bats and an impotent MSM now exposed as a wing of the DNC, will MoveOn, after defending our country.

Let history decide.

.

Ummmm:

Clinton Got a Blowjob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSVYkQoFADs


.

 

[fruit loop]

Clinton was a rapist??? Uh, no. Consensual oral sex is NOT rape. Not even close. Ask any of the women on this board who have been victims of rape - we do have some.

 

[Kent]

Clinton was a rapist??? Uh, no. Consensual oral sex is NOT rape. Not even close. Ask any of the women on this board who have been victims of rape - we do have some.

Ask Wanita Broderick & Kathlyn Willy if Billy boy had consensual sex with them.

 

[G-Man]

Nothing will be done to the POS. He just continued in his fathers footsteps.He will probably go down as one of the worst presidents in history. Yes ... even worse then Bill. He has ruined this country and what it stands for ... freedom. I so dread the coming elections. Because if we are stuck with the candidates before us ... were screwed. Mc Cain is the same Bush corporate clone.

Yup, Bushies got their puppets lined up to walk-on as Georgie and Fam rides off into the Paragray sunset scottfree!

 

[G-Man]

Originally Posted by skip8 View Post
Clinton was a serial rapist, who abused many women in his positions of power...nice to see your an apologist for rape.

The Clintons sold out our nation to the Chinese...technology and military secrets for campaign cash. Nice to see so many supporters of treason in high office.

Clinton decimated our military and human intel capability...a great CIC.

Clinton lied to a Federal Grand Jury.

Clinton was impeached.

Bush, Cheney and Rove, despite all the efforts of screaming Moon-Bats and an impotent MSM now exposed as a wing of the DNC, will MoveOn, after defending our country.

Let history decide.

Clinton is a long time Bush crony (he is their Rhodes scholar boy)

Tthat whole Clinton warped sex scandal was All Bull Sh*t! (conjoured up first by TPTS and then spun into a full course media event). These people always come up with these types of twisted ideas for entertainment

 

[Worrier King]

Typical dem/repub diversionary tactics in this thread.

The nation swirls down the turd bowl and as usual the indoctrinated partisan apologists and fingerpointers do what they have been conditioned to do...blame the other party. With neither party accountable as the real rape going on is what the dem/repub corporatocracy have done to the constitution and nation.

They just can't wait to vote for the Obamanation Abomination or for Hanoi John McCain to aid and abet the further destruction of a sovereign U.S. to the $globalists$, all being done in the name of a now predatory bastardized capitalism. Essentially extorting money from Americans and giving it to our enemies to help them further destroy us.

Everyone loses, especially future generations.

Making a profit or conducting wealth redistribution from destroying your nation isn't capitalism, it's treason.

Tis sheer insanity, may the revolution against the dem/repub regime begin in Denver

 

[Warthog]

Just like Jesse Ventura said the other day. "It may look like Democrats and Republicans go at it in front of the media, but behind closed doors it's a big buddy buddy system." It's a big crooked system for sure! The Constitution says We The People can throw off such government and replace it with a government of the PEOPLE, by the People, FOR THE PEOPLE.

 

[G-Man]

Yup, the greedy capitalist bloodsuckers have finally killed off their host! (The USA)

Wonder what they will try and pull next: more helicopter runs, or a little more black magic perhaps? The people currently being targeted as their new patsy will not be able to carry the illustrious consumer torch!!!!!

The credit game is now busted and NOONE makes enough money to live much less buy any more cheap Chinese/Viet Nam doodads.

 

[Rearden Steel]

the Bush admin has sought to take care of itself and their buddies interests, not the National interests. If they had done as you say, we would not be looking at a forever war, loss of privacy, freedom, and a miriad of other things like being a gadzillion $$'s in debt......and the economy about to crash.

These things all happened on "their" watch. And with "their" doing.

If you think this all took place within the last 8 years, you are a part of the problem, not the solution. These things are always self correcting. The variable is how disruptive the correction.

RS

 

[Y2kO]

Presidents are all puppets. They just go out in public every day and read the script that has been given to them. If they decide to start doing something else, they won't live long. In this case, Junior just happens to be a member of the crime family that writes the scripts. Clinton was an aide to Bush, Sr during the Mena, Arkansas/Iran Contra drug-running operation (a billion dollar profit-making op for the Bushes). They are all part of the crime family. Gore is part of the destroy-America cabal same as the rest of them. He wants to make all US patents available to anyone in the world who wants them. He wants to shut down farming (food-production) in the US.

After they have looted this country into the dirt, they will go live somewhere else. And they all have their foreign estates established.

Corrupt political party leaders make sure you never get anyone else to vote for on election day - and they help implement black box voting. To fix the problem, you have to take the power away from political parties and give it back to the people. As long as people are 'loyal' to their political party, this country is screwed.

 

[Y2kO]

These things are always self correcting.

When you have a criminal cabal running the government ever since the Kennedy assassination, which has never been held accountable for anything, it's not self-correcting. It's going to take a monumental effort by the people to uproot the criminals.

 

[G-Man]

It's going to take a monumental effort by the people to uproot the criminals.

I doubt anyone can or will do much (you would need to raise a powerful ass kicking army and lots of money to back it, sorta like what happened in Germany.

Mostly likely TPTS (ie thepowersthatsux) will continue to loot until things run completely dry here and the country is in total shams; then move on to greener pastures.

 

[Maranatha]

Yup, the greedy capitalist bloodsuckers have finally killed off their host! (The USA)

Wonder what they will try and pull next: more helicopter runs, or a little more black magic perhaps? The people currently being targeted as their new patsy will not be able to carry the illustrious consumer torch!!!!!

The credit game is now busted and NOONE makes enough money to live much less buy any more cheap Chinese/Viet Nam doodads.

I'm quite sure that saying "black" magic is no longer politically correct. Probably can't use "brown" either. Not sure what to say in place of those terms, but sure that the inventive MSM will come up with a PC replacement.

Agreement with your post. Your opening sentence is one I want to remember.

MARANATHA

 

[Y2kO]

Mostly likely TPTS (ie thepowersthatsux) will continue to loot until things run completely dry here and the country is in total shams; then move on to greener pastures.

That's what is happening. Although when the coup occurred in Russia, their military split into two factions: one supporting the government; the other supporting an overthrow. It could happen here. But this country's wealth is already looted except for foreclosing on all the property. So there's not much left to save.

 

[Y2kO]

The powers that be (TPTB) may move on to greener pastures but their underlings will rule as overseers on the feudal plantations here.

 

[G-Man]

But this country's wealth is already looted except for foreclosing on all the property. So there's not much left to save.

Yes the carcass of the USA is being picked clean by the vultures.

We are living in historical times, unfortunately they are going to be sad ones.....

 

[D_el]

I seems like the only choices in Presidential elections has been to vote for the lesser of evils. Well, I'm sick of voting for the lesser of evils because both the Republicans and the Democrats have fallen far short of true presidential material that was intended by our founding fathers.
We have career politicians, self serving nest featherers who know how to use the system to their advantage. Oh sure, they may listen to their constituents and solve any manner of small problems for their districts but on national matters, few if any have even come close to the level hoped for by the general populace.

It's so easy to point at the President and wag the finger in righteous indignation while ignoring the 535 elected representatives of the House and Senate.And don't even get me started about the Feral Court system.
Yes, one man is the root of all evil and his name is President. Meanwhile the hundreds of elected representatives in House and Senate, who could override the President, do nothing but point fingers and sling mud at the Pres. and their opposition party.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not apologizing for Bush, Clinton, or even the feeble minded Carter and Ford administrations. They have all fallen far short of their promises and the expectations of a failing nation under their leadership.
Oh, and how about the millions of folks who can't be bothered with learning the facts and voicing their opinions to elected leaders? Joe and Suzie Sixpack are perfectly content as long as their income, sports, food, and home is not in jeopardy. The "I've got mine... let the rest get their own cuz the ball game is on and I need another beer" attitude has lulled us into an almost narcotic complacency. People don't stand and remove their hats at the playing of the National Anthem like they used to. People don't stop and help someone in need because it might inconvenience them or subject them to litigation. No matter if it's a life threatening thing or not....they're just not going to get involved like people used to (Apologies to those few who do care and help).
We're in an advanced state of moral, ethical, and economic decay in this country and the 'S' is about to hit the 'F'.

God save the Republic !!!

 

[Thomas Paine]

Oh yeah, Klinton had sex in the whitehouse.....bad boy. The Bush admin has committed crimes against humanity.
Apples and oranges....

Don't agree with everything Bush and company have done , have spoken out fervently against it even.However Bush has been no worse or no better than any other mediocre president. The concept of a truth and reconciliation committee in America is chilling because such things are always tools of oppression.

The problem with Klinton wasn't that he had sex in the People's House but that he lied about it under oath, and that he then attempted to cover that up. Had Klinton came forward bit his lip, let it quiver a little dropped his eyes to the ground and pronounced that he had made a moral mistake, he had shamed himself, his family and his country, it would have been a brief story then things would have moved on. EH is just that good of a people handler and the majority of the people would have bought it.

 

[et2]

Don't agree with everything Bush and company have done , have spoken out fervently against it even.However Bush has been no worse or no better than any other mediocre president. The concept of a truth and reconciliation committee in America is chilling because such things are always tools of oppression.

The problem with Klinton wasn't that he had sex in the People's House but that he lied about it under oath, and that he then attempted to cover that up. Had Klinton came forward bit his lip, let it quiver a little dropped his eyes to the ground and pronounced that he had made a moral mistake, he had shamed himself, his family and his country, it would have been a brief story then things would have moved on. EH is just that good of a people handler and the majority of the people would have bought it.

I don't agree with what Clinton did. He did lie. He did admit it after dragging it on. But Bush and his cronies won't admit to a dang thing. They just manipulate congress and stop investigations before they have a chance to move forward. It's obvious what "freedoms" this man is trying to take from americans,and the acts he approves to do so. He is treasonous as his family history. Something he learned from granddaddy Prescott. America has had enough of the Bush family and there raping, thievery and killing of America and it's families.

 

[Be Well]

Oh yeah, Klinton had sex in the whitehouse.....bad boy. The Bush admin has committed crimes against humanity.
Apples and oranges....

And gave China technology in exchange for money, etcetcetc. I guess you didn't read any of the investigatvie books about Clinton, did you?

 

[skip8]

Clinton was a rapist??? Uh, no. Consensual oral sex is NOT rape. Not even close. Ask any of the women on this board who have been victims of rape - we do have some.

Ask Wanita Broderick & Kathlyn Willy if Billy boy had consensual sex with them.

Thanks Kent!


Fruit Loop you really surprise me.

I know your well-read and you have to know about all the other women Clinton abused and forced himself on!

And the impeachment was for lying to the Grand Jury about the Paula Jones case.

Jeez people! All you that continue with this bull-shit that it was only about a freely given, intern delivered, blow-job (woo hoo!) in the Oval Office are obfuscating a much more extensive evil that was the man Bill Clinton as Governor and President.

Were it not for the Clinton 'Bimbo Eruption Team', and the willing accomplices in the MSM to spike all they knew about Clinton's 'problem', he would have never been the nominee, let alone the President.

A Republican man with Clinton's type of 'history', would have been crucified by the MSM...but for Clinton, they looked the other way.



And don't forget these items unique to Clinton:

The Clintons sold out our nation to the Chinese...technology and military secrets for campaign cash. Nice to see so many supporters of treason in high office.

Clinton decimated our military and human intel capability...a great CIC.

 

[et2]

You so sure Bush isn't a rapist? Do some research.

 

[Richard]

Clinton was a serial rapist, who abused many women in his positions of power...nice to see your an apologist for rape.

The Clintons sold out our nation to the Chinese...technology and military secrets for campaign cash. Nice to see so many supporters of treason in high office.

Clinton decimated our military and human intel capability...a great CIC.

Clinton lied to a Federal Grand Jury.

Clinton was impeached.

Bush, Cheney and Rove, despite all the efforts of screaming Moon-Bats and an impotent MSM now exposed as a wing of the DNC, will MoveOn, after defending our country.

Let history decide.

how many women did Clinton have, more than JFK, 10,000 do you think
or perhaps he's still on the job

 

[skip8]

You so sure Bush isn't a rapist? Do some research.

Yes. Don't need to.

Because if there was just any possibility of that, Dan Rather and CeeBSNews would have created a fake-but-true document attesting to such.

And they would have included it in their fake-but-true document proved Texas AirNat'l Guard hit piece on Bush when Rather and CeeBSNews tried to alter the course of a National Presidential Election, and got busted!

 

[Garryowen]

There were somewhere in the neighborhood of fifty allegations regarding misconduct in the impeachment charges against Clinton. The Senate choose to focus on Monica.

Remember that "National Monument" established by Clinton's EO? It contains the Western Hemisphere's largest deposit of easily mined low-sulphur coal. And do you remember the 1 1/2 million-dollar contribution that came from the Riady Group, which has access to the largest deposit of low sulphur coal in the Eastern Hemisphere? Of course, when the Clinton campaign "discovered" that the donation was illegal, the immediately returned it. (It seems they discovered it after some reporters did.)

The Senate didn't see that as something that should be investigated. Maybe because of the potential fallout from "filegate."

But, probably it's all just being made up by the vast right-wing conspiracy.

regards,

Garryowen

 

[Desperado]

Face it.... Men of Character do not run for President of the United States anymore. Maybe because of all the BS they would have to do to get there, maybe because the parties don't want men of character in that position.
From Bush 2 all the way back to Johnson, they all disregarded the constitution.
Most of them have laughed at it. Who is responsible for this?
We, the American people are to be held directly responsible for this.
Why you might ask? Because we are guilty of voting for the lesser of two evils, but forgetting that evil is still evil.
Most Presidents since Johnson should still be serving time in a Federal prison if we were to hold their actions up to the Constitution.

 

[Cheval]

Barbara Bush doesn't seem to have a problem with Bill Clinton since she now refers to him as a son.....

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/clinton_barbara_bush_calls_clinton_son.htm

people that can't see that the Republicans and Democrats are both different sides of the same thing ..well..nothing can help them I guess.

 

[Fulltimer]

Headed Home

Barbara Bush doesn't seem to have a problem with Bill Clinton since she now refers to him as a son.....

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/clinton_barbara_bush_calls_clinton_son.htm

people that can't see that the Republicans and Democrats are both different sides of the same thing ..well..nothing can help them I guess.

Two parties in cahoots.

Headed Home:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/07/16/across_the_aisle_a_ballad_to_kennedy/?page=1

WASHINGTON - Senator Orrin Hatch, the conservative Utah Republican, has written hundreds of songs on patriotic themes - with such titles as "Freedom's Light" and "I Love Old Glory" - as a way of paying tribute to his country.

But his latest trip down Tin Pan Alley had an even more personal resonance: Hatch said he was asked by several colleagues to put down his feelings about a very close friend who is facing a serious illness. The friend is the legendary liberal Ted Kennedy, and the colleagues are Democrats who envision having the song played as a tribute to Kennedy at next month's Democratic convention - and as a living example of a brotherhood that transcends party lines.

The result, "Headed Home," is a lilting ballad that even its author can't repeat without tearing up. The lyrics, he said, refer to Kennedy's heroic return to the Senate where Kennedy has served for almost 46 years and Hatch for 32.

Sailing home, sailing home. America, America, we're headed home at last

"He's a special person to me. I want to honor him this way," Hatch said in an interview, his eyes welling up slightly as he listened to a demo tape of jazz and soul singer Tony Middleton perform the song in his signature deep baritone.

"Just honor him, honor him, and every fear will be a thing of the past," Middleton croons in the demo tape, which Hatch played for the Globe.

don

 

[et2]

In the western world, only one newspaper reports the suicide of the woman who accused George W Bush of rape

by Simon Aronowitz

Saturday 13th December 2003

Despite the enormity of the story, a virtual news blackout has remained in place since Margie Schoedinger first filed charges against George W Bush in 2002. Schoedinger had accused Bush of rape and other sexual crimes against both her and her husband, only one publication in the USA saw fit to print anything about her or her allegations. That publication was her local newspaper.

Her subsequent suicide earlier this year raised many eyebrows amongst those who learned of her death via the internet. Even though the sequence of events was bizarre, again the American media ignored Schoedinger completely.

However, the US press were not alone. Both the (London) Times newspaper and the BBC as well as other major news organisations in the UK were furnished with the story and sources for the original court filings. This should have garnered some attention for the story from the big media sources, if only to ridicule the allegations. Instead, in the same way the American media served its audience a stream of controlled news, so too did the British media by pretending Schoedinger didn't exist.

Schoedinger apparently committed suicide on 22nd September of 2003 but her death only attracted new attention on the internet in November of 2003. Only now has one small-circulation newspaper in the UK run the story of her demise. It found the story so newsworthy it ran its headline on the front page next to the title header.

The New Nation serves the black community of London and, according to a spokesperson for the newspaper, has a circulation of 25,000. This spokesperson also stated that the newspaper had confirmed the details of the story before publishing and apologised for the misprinting of Schoedinger's death as 12th December 2003.

That a newspaper in the English-speaking part of the world has finally deemed this story worthy of publication finally gives legitimacy to it. If one paper can cover this then so can others.

Many regular readers of `quality' newspapers such as the Times, Telegraph and even the NY Times have never heard of Margie Schoedinger. Her tale illustrates how the news available on the internet is often of greater value than that which is paid for. Editors should be asked by their paying readers and viewers why this story has been censored.

One can only deduce that the likes of Rupert Murdoch, Lord Conrad Black and Greg Dyke of the BBC have chosen to keep their political masters happy by blacking out any reference to the allegations and apparent suicide of Margie Schoedinger.

Hopefully the public will learn that what is news by the standards of big-money radio, television and print may not be news according to their readers. The support of independent media and its reference as a reliable source is increasingly the only effective way to inform the public of the real events in the world.



Below are scans of the newspaper's coverage, as well as the full text of their story









WOMAN WHO SUED BUSH IS FOUND DEAD

by Orantes Moore

New Nation

Monday 8th December 2003

A black woman who claimed to have been raped by US President George W Bush and was planning to take him to court has died of a gun shot wound to the head.

Continues on page four


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BUSH ACCUSER'S APPARENT SUICIDE

Continued from page 1

LAST FRIDAY (December 12), Margie Schoedinger, 38, was pronounced dead as a result of a 'gunshot wound to the head'. The death was officially registered as 'suicide' by the Harris County Examiner's Office.

As reported exclusively by New Nation in July, Schoedinger of Sugar Land, Texas, had filed a lawsuit against President Bush (a former Governor of Texas) in December 2002 accusing him of a series of 'individual sex crimes' against her and her husband.

In the amazing seven- page document, filed at Fort Bend County Court in Texas, Schoedinger claimed that Bush had abducted, drugged, raped and beat her.

She also suggested that she 'dated George W Bush as a minor', and the President may have been the father of a child she miscarried following the alleged rape.

Appear

Schoedinger said she had filed the lawsuit on December 3, 2002 and although court documents filed on the following day mention Bush and offer him 20 days to respond or appear in Fort Bend, it is still unclear whether the President was ever served with the suit.

Schoedinger was attempting to claim US$1 million in actual damages, plus US$49 million for punitive damages including emotional distress and loss of freedom.

Speaking earlier this year to American journalist Jackson Thoreau, Schoedinger said that the President had personally contacted her to say that he wanted her dead, but could trust no one to carry out the crime.

Of course, there is no indication that the president had anything whatsoever to do with her death.

Of the lawsuit she said: 'I am still trying to prosecute, but as yet, I haven't had a court date set.

'I want to get this matter settled and go on with my life. People have to be accountable for what they do and that is why I am pursuing this lawsuit.'

The US media had largely ignored the filing of the lawsuit and the story had only appeared in a local newspaper.

 

[et2]