has anyone heard of this?//PORTABLE HEATER

[dabom]

my dad is thinking of buying one of these.

There is a full page ad in the local paper for this. http://www.edenpure.com/

Its called EdenPure. Quartz infrared portable heater

here is what the big bold says:

As heard on Paul Harvey news
New advanced portable heater can
cut your heating bill up to 50%

Heats a large room in minutes with even
heat wall to wall and floor to ceiling

Does not get hot, cannot start a fire and
will not reduce humidity or oxygen

Price:
model 500 is $372 plus $17 s&h
model 1000 is $472 plus $27 s&h

 

[Tumbleweed]

Thanks for showing us.

The price is a bit steep but I may try to acquire one before
next winter. I'm in a small travel trailer with a non-functioning
furnace. I'm using an electric space heater which takes awhile
to warm the interior up.

 

[BL225128]

It might be a good heater, but its still an electric heater...not much good if there's no power.

 

[Satanta]

Paul Harvey touted t on his show so ut must be good-like all those things the radio talking heads tout on their shows "They use it themselves!" must be good.

 

[BoneDaddy]

For that price I'll stick to my oil filled radiator.

 

[RC]

It sounds awfully expensive for an electric heater.

Almost by definition, any electric heater is going to be 100% efficient. Now, I have heard enough antecdotal evidence to convince me that some electric heaters "work better" than other ones, even though I'm not sure I can explain why they "work better." But still, physics tells us that any electric heater is going to produce exactly the same amount of heat as another one for the same number of watts going in.

This one for $372 might, indeed, "work better" than a $20 heater with the same wattage rating. But they will produce exactly the same amount of heat. Personally, I would buy the $20 heater.

Incidentally, since it neither adds water to the air nor uses up water, it will not change the absolute humidity of the room. But since warm air holds more water than cold air, it will reduce the relative humidity. And if you've ever listened closely to the weatherman, he always reports the "relative humidity." So, IMHO, this thing will indeed reduce the humidity.

 

[Avatar]

I'd rather get one of THESE first and see how they work. At least they're cheaper.

As for the oil filled heaters well I got one of those and it almost DOUBLED my electric bill.

 

[Worrier King]

Does anyone know anything about the CURED COPPER it claims to be using? Does cured copper really have such great heat retaining ability?

Good post dabom, I've seen the ad and was intrigued. I think I'm more interested in finding out about cured copper than buying it....

 

[Rastech]

For not much more than that surely you could get an air conditioning unit with a heat pump built in?

Mine's a 12,000 btu one, and for less than 1.5kw consumpion in 'heating mode' it pushes out over 4.5kw of heating.

Plus it's a dehumidifier with external drainage. As well as an air conditioner of course, plus it has excellent air filtration.

Mine cost the equivalent of about $450 in France (Europe), and the external compressor is a very nice piece of Toshiba, apparently good for at least 12 years use too.

The 9,000 btu model of mine, in Europe is somewhere around $350 (I think), and that's enough for a pretty big room. They are very easy and quick to install too.

I figured the 12,000 btu one would make my entire home comfortable, and I wasn't wrong.

Link below is the sort of thing I have, but I don't know the company at all and aren't recommending them, just have a look at the type of thing it is.

http://www.fedders.com/catalog/Split_Units/HFE-HFC_Splits9_12.htm

I'm sure you should be able to get something like that far cheaper than they are over here. Hope that helps.

 

[Delta]

The purpose of this heater is to move money from your pocket to that of the manufacturer. It's promise to heat economically is only intended to make the money transfer easier.

 

[Rastech]

I looked a bit more at the advert, and they are only quartz bulb type heaters.

In the UK, you can get this sort of thing with 4 x 500w bulbs in it, off market stalls, for about $35 maximum.

I've even seen them for $15 ish, but not in a 'fancy box' housing.

It does seem an awful rip-off.

Edit: something I use for a quick 'take the chill off' source of heat, is a Honeywell fan heater. It has a 1kw and 2kw setting, and 1kw is usually plenty for what I need. The great thing with Honeywell, is they make great thermostatic controls, and the one in my heater certainly lives up to their reputation.

Obviously it's not a hugely economic source of heating, unlike the heat pump, but it was cheap to buy (about $30 equivalent) and 1kw consumption when the thermostat cuts in, isn't too bad to live with.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

Does anyone know anything about the CURED COPPER it claims to be using? Does cured copper really have such great heat retaining ability?

Good post dabom, I've seen the ad and was intrigued. I think I'm more interested in finding out about cured copper than buying it....

There's nothing particularly special about cured copper. From memory, the 'grain' in it is smaller, which allows it to be worked (that is, bent to shape) easier. But copper makes a nice heatsink, which allows "point" heat sources (such as quartz bulbs) to be spread fairly evenly over the copper. So a high temperature quartz bulb on the inside of a fairly large copper tube will give a lower, even temp over the outside of the tube.

It doesn't appear to offer any advantages over a standard low wattage fan-forced electric heater - they've got an output that can't burn anyone either, and they're about $300 cheaper.

And for large rooms, a radiant source (such as the standard "glow bar" or quartz heaters) are generally more effective than warm air sources.The infrared heat directly warms the objects in the room as opposed to the warm air approach, which tends to rise and hang around the ceiling.

 

[bearwash]

As for the oil filled heaters well I got one of those and it almost DOUBLED my electric bill.

Man, if a 500-1,000 watt electric heater doubled your electric bill you must have had a really small electric bill to begin with.

At 5 or 6 cents/Kwh you should be able to run that heater around the clock.

 

[RC]

At 6 cents per kWH, if the heater is 1 kw, the cost would be .06 x 24 x 30 per month, or $43.20 per month if you left it running 24/7.

In most areas, electric heat is more expensive than most other alternatives. But it's very nice in that you can heat up a single room very easily.

In our case, we turned the thermostat down to 64 during the day and 59 at night, and use a $20 electric heater as needed.

The strange thing is that our electric bill actually went down slightly, because I started being very anal about turning off lights, etc. []

 

[bearwash]

Of course, the element cycles on and off (unless the thermostat is at max) and so the actual cost is usually much less than that. My own oil-filled heaters are probably using energy less than 50% of the time they are "turned on" and radiating heat all this time. I generally have only one of the two elements energized as well. But if it were a sole heat source the load would be greater.

 

[Double_A]

It never says how much current it uses, a watt is a watt. Certainly copper will absorb and transfer heat.

Unless it has $300 (150 pounds) worth of copper in it, it's not worth more than $35

 

[dabom]

Thanks for all the replies.
i will let my father know the replies here.

 

[rolph]

I looked a bit more at the advert, and they are only quartz bulb type heaters.

In the UK, you can get this sort of thing with 4 x 500w bulbs in it, off market stalls, for about $35 maximum.

That reminds me of the 1000 W craftsman quartz 2 light worklight tower that we picked up for remodeling. That thing will roast you out of a room in a hurry. I thought about turning it on for 5 mins to quickly heat a room and then let the oil filled and central gas do the rest.

 

[Avatar]

Man, if a 500-1,000 watt electric heater doubled your electric bill you must have had a really small electric bill to begin with.
At 5 or 6 cents/Kwh you should be able to run that heater around the clock.

Nope I only turned it on when I was home.

See if you can tell the month I used it.

date - (kWh)
02/01/2006 - 551
01/01/2006 - 763
12/01/2005 - 1,032
11/01/2005 - 515
10/01/2005 - 391