RACE Harvard professor says ‘all hell broke loose’ when his study found no racial bias in police shootings

[jward]

Harvard professor says ‘all hell broke loose’ when his study found no racial bias in police shootings​

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A Harvard professor said that "all hell broke loose" and he was forced to go out in public with armed security after he published a study that found no evidence of racial bias in police shootings.
During a sit-down conversation with Bari Weiss of The Free Press, Harvard Economics Professor Roland Fryer discussed the fallout from a 2016 study he published on racial bias in Houston policing.

The study found that police were more than twice as likely to manhandle, beat or use some other kind of nonfatal force against blacks and Hispanics than against people of other races. However, the data also determined that officers were 23.8 percent less likely to shoot at blacks and 8.5 percent less likely to shoot at Hispanics than they were to shoot at whites.
When Fryer claimed the data showed "no racial differences in officer-involved shootings," he said, "all hell broke loose," and his life was upended.
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Professor of Economics at Harvard University, Roland Fryer speaks during the annual Clinton Global Initiative in New York, New York. ((Photo by Ramin Talaie/Corbis via Getty Images))
Fryer received the first of many complaints and threats four minutes after publication.



"You're full of s—t," the sender said.
Fryer said people quickly "lost their minds" and some of his colleagues refused to believe the results after months of asking him not to print the data.

"I had colleagues take me to the side and say, 'Don't publish this. You'll ruin your career,'" Fryer revealed.
The world-renowned economist knew from comments by faculty that he was likely to garner backlash. Fryer admitted that he anticipated the results of the study would be different and would confirm suspicions of racial bias against minorities. When the results found no racial bias, Fryer hired eight new assistants and redid the study. The data came back the same.

After the report was published, Fryer lived under police protection for over a month. He had a seven-day-old daughter at the time and went shopping for diapers.

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Former Harvard President Claudine Gay, who made headlines for refusing to say if genocide of Jews was against Harvard policy during a congressional hearing, was also accused of multiple accounts of plagiarism. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)
"I was going to the grocery store to get diapers with the armed guard. It was crazy. It was really, truly crazy," he said.

Fryer, who became the youngest tenured Black professor at Harvard at age 30, was suspended for two years from the university in 2019 after he allegedly engaged in "unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature. He continues to deny the allegations.
At the time, then-Harvard dean Claudine Gay claimed Fryer's research and conduct with other employees "exhibited a pattern of behavior" that failed to meet expectations within the community.

"The totality of these behaviors is a clear violation of institutional norms and a betrayal of the trust," she said.

Gay resigned from her position as Harvard president in early January after widespread plagiarism allegations and criticism of her testimony to Congress, where she failed to fully clarify whether calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard's policies against bullying and harassment.
Weiss, referencing Gay in her conversation with Fryer, asked him if he believes in karma.
"I hear it's a motherf---er," he replied.

Harvard did not return Fox News Digital's request for comment,

Nikolas Lanum is an associate editor for Fox News Digital.

Harvard professor says ‘all hell broke loose’ when his study found no racial bias in police shootings

Harvard Economics Professor Roland Fryer said "all hell broke loose" after he released a study on racial bias in policing that colleagues told him not to publish.

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[desertvet2]

Damned uncle Tom's are ruining the grift huh?

I would not call them that.

I would call them rational, logical thinking people who are educated and successful...

And they have a skin color shade darker than mine.

But the idiots who want to blame someone else for their personal shortcomings...meh.

 

[223shootersc]

The TRUTH is just that. It cannot be denied only slandered and lied about!!!

 

[Melodi]

As someone who dropped out of archeology/history as an Academic Career because I liked to ask "forbidden questions," I feel about this excellent researcher. This is bad enough when it happens in the social sciences, but as we all know, it has now moved into medical research (in both cases, somewhat encouraged and controlled by funding).

A few years ago in Ireland, they invited a young Scandinavian Statistician and Economist to review the Irish Welfare system as it was at the time. His iron-clad conclusions were that most families were better off staying on Welfare than taking up lower-wage jobs of the sort most would qualify for. He proved it because it was true, and most sane people would make that choice (to stay on welfare and pay their bills).

The government of the day was furious and tried to "order" him to "adjust" his figures. He went public saying he was correct and wasn't about to change anything. He made a big deal when he left the country, and the story became even larger than it had been.

But at least he kept his reputation and had a good job to return to.

 

[Jeep]

The truth is very detrimental to the democrats' plan to keep racism alive. We can't have the truth proving the government, Burn Loot Murder, antifa, and liberals wrong, because they are never wrong. Just ask them.

 

[GeneSD]

When the truth holds such immense power that even the mighty tremble in its presence!

 

[desertvet2]

The mighty demands truth.
Well, the ALL MIGHTY does.

Only demons can't handle the truth.

T.est r.eality u.ntil t.ruth h.olds.

 

[Dux]

23.8% fewer shootings? There ARE racial differences in how blacks are treated. Did he ever take a math class?

 

[packyderms_wife]

Damned uncle Tom's are ruining the grift huh?

I would not call them that.

I would call them rational, logical thinking people who are educated and successful...

And they have a skin color shade darker than mine.

But the idiots who want to blame someone else for their personal shortcomings...meh.

Agreed! What blacks lack is access to quality legal defense, which is something most whites do have access to. Most lawyers, including black ones, tend to be incredibly racist towards minorities, especially blacks. And as you can see from the other thread here of that black woman that’s on trial for fraud, she’s trying to take down Trump, that even when well educated they simply do not know how to leather mouths shut.

 

[kyrsyan]

Agreed! What blacks lack is access to quality legal defense, which is something most whites do have access to. Most lawyers, including black ones, tend to be incredibly racist towards minorities, especially blacks. And as you can see from the other thread here of that black woman that’s on trial for fraud, she’s trying to take down Trump, that even when well educated they simply do not know how to leather mouths shut.

Actually I think that is as much an income level problem. My brother got into some trouble when he was younger. The family couldn't afford to hire anyone so it was public defender. All I can say is they try.

Nowadays he has a few friends that seem to constantly be both broke and in trouble with the law. Doing stupid and being stupid.

Sometimes, it's just the person and their nature.

 

[Trouble]

Racial bias? ******s create the situations whereby they have police run ins by committing most of the crime. It’s called cause and affect.

 

[Mark Armstrong]

As someone who dropped out of archeology/history as an Academic Career because I liked to ask "forbidden questions," I feel about this excellent researcher. This is bad enough when it happens in the social sciences, but as we all know, it has now moved into medical research (in both cases, somewhat encouraged and controlled by funding).

A few years ago in Ireland, they invited a young Scandinavian Statistician and Economist to review the Irish Welfare system as it was at the time. His iron-clad conclusions were that most families were better off staying on Welfare than taking up lower-wage jobs of the sort most would qualify for. He proved it because it was true, and most sane people would make that choice (to stay on welfare and pay their bills).

The government of the day was furious and tried to "order" him to "adjust" his figures. He went public saying he was correct and wasn't about to change anything. He made a big deal when he left the country, and the story became even larger than it had been.

But at least he kept his reputation and had a good job to return to.

In 2016 a history professor at MSU (Missouri State University) flipped out and stabbed to death a colleague he believed to be responsible for his being denied tenure. Edward Gutting declared not guilty by reason of insanity in murder of MSU professor

The news stories from 2016 giving the details are now hidden behind paywalls, but I recall reading back then that the one who did the stabbing believed that he was being denied tenure for having conservative views and wanting to teach Greek and Roman history rather than the nontraditional, non-Western histories that the department was in the process of switching over to.

 

[jward]

First, thank you to all who chose to address the OP and not delve into the weeds of personal experiences, or personal prejudices...

I did vaguely recall this from when it happened, and now, as then, what amazes me is that he didn't experience enough personal and professional pushback to not publish at all.

There's a saying that the only thing more political than academia is politics itself, and some think that you could switch the two institutions and still be speaking the truth.

What we haven't brought out is that end the end he was on the receiving end of some pretty punitive measures; now, it's absolutely possible he did engage in "unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature"- we know that happens all the time- but it is also quite possible that the petty lil passive aggressive powers that be made him pay the price for stepping outside the lines. That too happens all the time.

Either way, this is one of those articles we might tuck away in files to share if some liberal acquaintance ever wishes to hear facts that don't comport with the gruel they're spoon fed on the reservation.
:: shrug ::

 

[jward]

The truth is very detrimental to the democrats' plan to keep racism alive. We can't have the truth proving the government, Burn Loot Murder, antifa, and liberals wrong, because they are never wrong. Just ask them.

Yes, truth, and the ability to reason objectively, are the kryptonite to their theft of power- which is why at every single turn we see them trying to socially engineer us into emotional, emotive automomons, capable of being spun up into our feelz at the slightest breeze against our cheeks, and incapable of rational thought.

 

[BassMan]

As I understand it, people get very upset when you fight their "beliefs": something accepted as fact, with questionable evidence.

This is different from "knowing", which is based on experience and facts.

Sadly, too many people are willing to reconsider their "beliefs".

Human nature...

 

[packyderms_wife]

Actually I think that is as much an income level problem. My brother got into some trouble when he was younger. The family couldn't afford to hire anyone so it was public defender. All I can say is they try.

Nowadays he has a few friends that seem to constantly be both broke and in trouble with the law. Doing stupid and being stupid.

Sometimes, it's just the person and their nature.

True, however, more often than not. you will see a decent attorney take up a case for a poor white person before you will see them take it up for a poor black person simply because most blacks refuse to exhibit self control. Even the educated ones have this issue, a white guy you tell him to sit down and shut up or he'll be serving 30 years and usually he'll comply.

My brother was a repeat drunk offender, so yeah I get what you are saying about siblings.

 

[kyrsyan]

True, however, more often than not. you will see a decent attorney take up a case for a poor white person before you will see them take it up for a poor black person.

Wasn't our experience but I can see where it might happen, given that nowadays the reverse happens as well.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Wasn't our experience but I can see where it might happen, given that nowadays the reverse happens as well.

my brother managed to get a good attorney, who got him off all charges... and he did everything the attorney told him to do, starting with keeping his mouth shut. He was in the reserve at the time, but still did stupid stuff.

 

[packyderms_wife]

There's a saying that the only thing more political than academia is politics itself, and some think that you could switch the two institutions and still be speaking the truth.

What we haven't brought out is that end the end he was on the receiving end of some pretty punitive measures; now, it's absolutely possible he did engage in "unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature"- we know that happens all the time- but it is also quite possible that the petty lil passive aggressive powers that be made him pay the price for stepping outside the lines. That too happens all the time.

academic life in a nutshell! It's one of the reasons I left R&D, because of the politics and being required to walk some imaginary line to keep my spot at the bench. No thanks, I'd rather work for myself.