Guess who did the exit polls?

RobinYyes

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Mitofsky International is a survey research company founded by Warren J. Mitofsky in 1993. Its primary business is conducting exit polls for major elections around the world. It does this work exclusively for news organizations. Mitofsky has directed exit polls and quick counts since 1967 for almost 3,000 electoral contests in United States, Mexico, Russia and the Philippines.

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From 1967 to 1990, Mitofsky was executive director of the CBS News election and survey unit, and was an executive producer of its election night broadcasts. He conducted the first exit polls for CBS in 1967, and developed the projection and analysis system used successfully by CBS and Voter News Service. He started the CBS News/New York Times Poll in 1975 and directed it for CBS for its first 15 years.

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Aleph Null

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I don't see your point. What possible benefit could the organization have for skewing the results in Kerry's favor, only to look stupid less than 24 hours later?

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RobinYyes

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Think back to 2000 NULL. skewed results along the Florida panhandle effectively stopped lots of people from voting. Not to mention how those skewed results (ie: network funded exit polls) made lots of people in the western states question the nessessity of voting that late afternoon. It could have worked again, but alas it did not.
 

Aleph Null

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If anything, exit polling early in the day showing a slight lead for Kerry would have encouraged more Reps to go out and vote.

I hope this year's experience convinces people to stop with the exit polling, which is notoriously inaccurate.

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bigwavedave

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Aleph Null said:
If anything, exit polling early in the day showing a slight lead for Kerry would have encouraged more Reps to go out and vote.

I hope this year's experience convinces people to stop with the exit polling, which is notoriously inaccurate.

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if a fair sampling is taken throughout the course of the voting day, there is no reason at all to presume that they are inaccurate and the ballots are accurate.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
bigwavedave said:
if a fair sampling is taken throughout the course of the voting day, there is no reason at all to presume that they are inaccurate and the ballots are accurate.

Unless, Dave, the voters are becoming tired of having to accomodate exit pollsters in their goal of calling the election before the votes are actually counted.

In which case, they will lie to the pollsters about how they voted, as clearly happened yesterday.
 

Amazed

Does too have a life!
I hope this year's experience convinces people to stop with the exit polling, which is notoriously inaccurate.

I beieve the exit polls have, in fact, been extremely accurate in the past.

I don't know if this was deiberate or a fluke, but if it was deliberate, there's going to be a lot of po'ed pollsters coming after MI. Their credibility has been seriously compromised.
 

bigwavedave

Deceased
Oilpatch Hand said:
Unless, Dave, the voters are becoming tired of having to accomodate exit pollsters in their goal of calling the election before the votes are actually counted.

In which case, they will lie to the pollsters about how they voted, as clearly happened yesterday.
as i said, there is no reason to presume. you just did. where are your supporting facts?
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
I've posted this before...

I wasn't interviewed by an exit pollster yesterday - but I would lie my ass off to them if I had been. So consider me one of Oilpatch Hand's "supporting facts" because I am one of those voters that is sick of them trying to influence an election.
 

Pineapple

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Also, look at the early voting problems of Bush supporters being harrassed. Maybe people who voted for Bush were nervous about telling someone who they voted for. I know I wouldnt want to answer considering all that happened last week.
 

PentelPen

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Jeff Greenfield was on MSNBC this morning. He said the problem wasn't the pollsters or the polls, who apparently gave out the early results with big giant caveats like DON'T USE THESE YET and THESE NUMBERS ARE REALLY WIERD, and they had already noted that there was a disproportionate number of Democrats polled and younger voters polled. Greenfield said the reporters ignored the caveats and just took the poll numbers and published them as is.
 

milkydoo

Inactive
Oilpatch Hand said:
Unless, Dave, the voters are becoming tired of having to accomodate exit pollsters in their goal of calling the election before the votes are actually counted.

In which case, they will lie to the pollsters about how they voted, as clearly happened yesterday.
Junior high school pollsters might not take that possibility into account, but I would think that the pros with decades of experience would not overlook it.
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
Don't slam me here - I'm just the messenger:

On some of the radio talk shows, they are refering to some newspaper article saying that these initial "exit polls" that were so wrong....we're actually Put out by the Kerry campaign. Something to do with, they found out where the exit pollsters were going to be, then made sure all of the democrats in the area went and flooded the early voting to skew the early numbers and demoralize the Repubs. Something also about them sending out "press releases" made to look like they were from the exit pollsters...

Again I'm just the messenger - and I'm not confirming or denying the validity of this story.
 
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